⚠️ Did you know? 1️⃣ The running speeds you see in this project are just a tad faster than what you can run at in the original game! Modern SA2, just like the Genesis games, allows you to maintain slightly higher speed than normal (not too crazy). We’ve allowed players to run at regular speeds, or run a little faster if they want. I’m just going fast because that’s how I like to play and show off the project lol. Vanilla SA2 puts you right back to a low speed of 3.4 and stops you from maintaining a slightly higher speed value. Slope physics has been restored too! This is only 100% on for when you’re spindashing in vanilla, and 50% on for when running. In MSA2, this is 100% for both states. We also have dynamic FOV, so the faster you go, the higher the FOV. This also adds to the sense of speed. 2️⃣ Modern SA2 now has a configuration file! Select "MSA2: The Trial v3 - [PART 1]" in the mod manager and click “Configure” to change the soundtrack used and the character model style! Modern SA2 Soundtrack or Remastered SA2 OST. MSA2 Character Models or Faithful SA2 Models. The choice is yours! 🚨 Please read the page's description so you're aware of everything. I guarantee you that nearly ALL of your questions will be answered on the Gamebanana page!
@@TheeMentorDex Oh, that's good to know about the speed. All the configuration options are very nice so people can play the way they want to using modern sa2 faithful or remastered. I appreciate these options!
the animation is nice but the visuals honestly give off roblox vibes and its a bit distracting. dont see a point in replacing the voice acting either, does not sound very good to me
Yeah I agree. I can really appreciate the work put into it though and the animations are great, but I find it weird having the characters going faster than they're meant to, sometimes breaking the stage more and making you see out of bounds so often
Yeah don’t get me wrong I like the speed the characters go and the new models which look amazing but the rest of the areas give a Roblox vibe. Although changing all textures and all models would be a huge task for a small group doing this for free. Depending on how much they can change they could add extra building meshes in parts of the map to fix the out of bounds issues.
It’s in the title. This is what sonic adventure 2 could have looked like if it was released now. It’s not a remake more of a small reimagining. Also I don’t see the problem with the voice acting, everyone did an amazing job
This project is a mod for the original game (Steam release) and aims to mimic an early Xbox 360 game (low poly was still the style in 2005). There’s nothing more I can do with the visuals. It’s only diffuse textures on the Dreamcast. I’m also not sure how this is distracting when anyone can play the game just fine?
@@TheeMentorDex im not trying to discredit the work thats gone into this at all, it's more of an observation than critcism (minus the voice acting, I just think it sounds strange personally but thats pretty subjective) I think its impressive that youve done as much as you have. I just think its sort of like the GTA trilogy remasters where you take the original assets and modify them a little while still obviously working with a very outdated engine which can and will give off some uncanny vibes. I think the movement tweaks youve added look super fun though, I dont really mess around with sa2 mods but I might try this one out just for the movement alone. Ultimately what I said isnt really something you can do something about without just creating a whole new game, so Im not trying to insinuate youve done anything wrong. Infact its very impressive, especially again, the animation.
you guys knocked it out of the park!! the character models look smooth and great, and dry lagoon looks unrecognizable!! even tails has a new model!! my only complaint is that speed characters move too fast in this build and stages feel a bit small because of it, like the start to green forest i.e. but overall, such a fresh take on sa2, love it!!
Appreciate the support! You only go this fast if you want to. Spindash to go fast or run down a slope and maintain your velocity. The top speed is now only slighter higher than vanilla SA2’s. In older builds, the speed was insane and uncontrollable. We also have dynamic FOV and subtle camera shake, so the faster you run, the higher the FOV. Naturally, I’m going fast cuz I’m a chad 💪🏼 😂
25:52 Wait, I've just noticed, when you lose rings in this mod, they aren't taking them all.. THIS IS BRILLIANT!! The thing that I hated the most about the early 3D Sonic games is the fact that no matter how high or low your ring count is, it will reset to zero once being hit (just like the classic games), sure you collect them back, but only 20 maximum, and that sucks, aspecially when your trying to do does 100 rings missions in both SA2 and Heroes.
That rendition of final chase was some of the most exhilarating and epic level design I've seen from a sonic game. So many paths and freedom of choice on how to traverse the stage, the epic ost rendition, loved every second. Not only that but the level design feels like it's something that could've actually been in the base game, you clearly understand the design philosophy and nuances of adventure 2. You've really outdone yourself. Awesome mod! Very talented.
Lowkey looking pretty dang smooth, and the little additions look like theyll be great for a faster flowing experience. Hope we get full customization with this, like render distance and the ability to revert audio. You can tell some maps arent made to be seen from such a far distance, and it greatly shows its age, that aside the restoration like this looks great, my only real gripe is the small additions to music and voice acting...
Cant wait to see more with this mod! It looks better and better with every update! I'm especially excited for all the level design changes, they look to do a great job adding replayability to previously pretty linear stages
Honestly this has been the most fun, I've had with the SA2 stages. This one mod actually clears up the main issue, I have with them. And it's that sense of freedom of movement.
This looks absolutely beautiful! The squash and stretch is amazing, alongside all the flips and stylish flair for each character. The new VAs sound incredible too! I'm kinda jealous we don't get this exact scale in the mainline Sonic games. A change I feel like isn't getting appreciated enough is not losing every ring you have if you get hit. No longer need flawless runs for an A rank!
Broo THANK YOU for not wildin out like everyone else in the comments section 🙏🏼 Honestly idk what these bruddahs smoking but hey they’re boosting the video so W 😂 The way our ranking is done is that you need 80% of the total score to get an A Rank. This means you’re now forced to hit a lotta enemies, collect a ton of rings, break boxes and get items to max out your points AND get to the goal in a reasonably fast time! If you ever play this project in the future, you’ll see how you no longer get A Ranks easily.
6 years... this project has been going on for 6 years... there have been so many advancements in SA2 modding within that timegap. From the Chao world, to the character models being replacable and now to the insane stuff we have now! Huge props to you and the team, Dex! Don't forget to take your time with the project, as well as your other projects.
Personally don’t see the reason for all the hate this is a really good mod. And the voice acting is pretty good idk what you guys are on. Must be nostalgia I guess?
Broo it’s mad cuz if you look at Overtime’s video on our work, the comment section is the POLAR opposite 💀 Idk if people are taking the piss cuz I’m the lead dev posting the video on the project? Honestly, I find it proper funny 😂
So for me its more of the voice is going for a hybrid of Ryan Drummond and Jun'ichi Kanemaru (English and Japanese va for SA2), the lines mesh well with each other but not the voices so much, thats just me. As for everything else, idk why people are bashing the mod. they are acting like its final, instead of improvments being able to be made down the line. in my opinion, it's a great mod with a lot of charisma and heart put into it. Sure, lighting can be fixed, and some things here and there, but the mod is doing great! People just gotta 'Live and Learn'!
I haven’t seen this mod in a long while but I really like the new animations and custom voicework giving the mod its own identity and they all fit the characters like a glove so far, can’t wait to see the rest of them
*Me ecstatic that this is so good and amazing* *Also me sad that if we do get an official sa2 remake it wont even be 1% as good as this* Love what that you made this and you deserve so much praise keep up the amazing work.
This project is nothing short of amazing. Love the updates to the old satges of SA2. While I do feel the models are a bit too shiny they are not bad at all. The Voice acting is a great touch specially because it could mean a possible faithful recreation of the original story that the english translation kind of butchered. All in all, this is fucking sick. Downloading this as soon as I figure out how to make my control work with SA2
I adore this mod, oh my stars you did such an incredible job! It straight up looks like Sonic 06 graphics, but better! I don't get what people are saying with the new voice lines, I actually rather like them. Especially Rouge and Shadow! And the plap of Sonic's feet when he runs is genuinely hilarious and honestly a nice touch. Gonna download this as soon as I possibly can, can't wait to relive my childhood in the best way possible!!!
Honestly. I really like this! And idk why the fans are clowning on the voice acting, they are doing just fine as it is. As a VA myself, i can understand the struggles they must be having (especially since im good friends with the Sonic VA, and work with him) so i think the fans need to gives these voices a chance! Keep up the great work!
I like the impression of sonic very much. It sounds like a fusion of Ryan Drummond and Jun'ichi Kanemaru. The overall attitude and pitch of jun'ichi and the slight cheesiness of Ryan. The perfect combination, IMO
DRY LAGOON CRITIQUE/SUGGESTIONS Bring back the original emerald radar dinging. 😢 Rogue voice acting and animations are great! ❤....except her swimming animation 😂 which looks goofy as heck. She just rolls into a ball?
Please do a model viewing because i am most interested in looking at the characters in a 360 setting. Still great job on this and i am excited fo try some day. ❤
Not sure if it was intentional, but Radical Highway has some subtle storytelling in it and its so aghhhh😍😍😍 Like the hot air balloons, advertisements, and other objects are Shadow's subconscious trying to piece together his situation and his little amnesia he's got. Intentional or not, it makes it sooo much more cool😍😍
Cool improvements of Metal Harbor (now we can have run on a coast), City Escape (has playground, a lot of decorations like Gens), Radical Highway/Green Forest/Final Rush/Final Chase have new shortcuts but modernized as well too. Would be awesome if stage length were like Heroes/Shadow/2006 which will make SA2 the best adventure game in 2024, besides SADX. Really loving your work, Dex.😮😊🎉 P.S. : i got a weird idea which could work - why don't you put Cannon Core/Cosmic Wall/Eternal Engine sections with gates, bridges into Final Rush/Chase so it would give resemblance of SonXShad Gens
these stage edits are awesome, but i think the purple rails on final chase at the beginning should utilize more verticle rail launching, like the verticle rail blocks in final rush. where if you have enough momentum, you can jump off of them and get insane height. final rush also had a few that were diagonal/sideways that were essentially used as platforms rather than flat ground, making it way scarier and riskier. that and maybe verticle walls/platforms that you have to navigate or jump around. upper path should be hardest, not easiest. awesome work!
I fucking love the idea of in this hypothetical remake in the series they whould have Ryan voice sonic and have Jason as Shadow in the same game absolutely brilliant.
Yeah i would definitely see this is how Sonic Adventure 2 would look if it wasn't rushed in animations and Sega was still kicking in the console market
Also what feels so good about SA2 is that the game wasnt that paused in pace. You went level after lever in story mode, without the need to choose the next level like in SonicxShadow Generations. And the variations in characters levels didnt make you feel so easily bored.
Honestly, I liked basically everything, especially the animations for the victory poses. [though some clipping may need some fixing on some] The new VA's are doing really good close impressions of the of SA2 characters too, which I love. Doesn't feel like the VA's are trying to match their modern counterparts, and instead going right for that older style. Even the voice acting feels like it has that slight muffle the old voicework kinda had...that or I'm just imagining things. Still though, fantastic stuff! I think my only major critique is that intro for Metal harbor. I assume it's similar to that grind rail at the top of the early turn in City Escape, and, maybe the Metal harbor land areas were a concept that never made it into the level...but as it is here, for some reason I felt extremely lost, even in the video. Just kinda wondering where I would've been supposed to go. Maybe it can be reworked to direct the player more, or something else, but I do prefer the old 'dropped into a downward slope' from the original. [that and it felt trippy to see land at all, but maybe that's just something to get used to] But everything else was really fun to see, great work!
If everything either gets a retexture, enemies get new models too, and so on…. Sure, this would work well. But you HAVE to get the original voices back.
Big fan of how the levels look in this mod. I will say though, the water effect in Metal Harbor was really messing with my eyes and making me feel ill.
HIRE THIS GUY NOWWWWWW THESE MODED MODELS ARE INSANELY WELL PUT TOGETHER ITS HOW THEY SHOULD BE THEY WERE ALREADY GREAT BUT THIS GUY MADE THEM BETTER SPECTACULAR JOB SIR!!!! This is the talent SEGA NEEDS after forces I was done with sonic man but this THIS IS WHAT WE NEED ❤❤❤
With the update to the game's shadows, if there's a way to add highlights on top, I'd massively recommend looking into it. Something felt missing the entire time watching and I think once I got to the Chao Garden at the end, I realise it was some lighting highlights on the characters/environments themselves. Is there a way to do baked highlights on the environments based on where the sun is and then realtime on the characters? (I think Sonic Unleashed used this exact method actually, which is very 360 era.) Yeah, visually, that's all that's missing atm that I reckon will bump this up massively. It's looking pretty interesting though. Keep at it guys; looking forward to seeing more progress.
Ahh, you’re on about specular. The SA2 ports broke specular lighting, hence the flat look on enemies, objects and characters. I could add a subtle highlight to my falloff environment map textures. However, it won’t match the light direction. Best to wait until Shaddatic has this restored in Render Fix.
To all the people complaining about the running speeds; cry about it. The higher speeds allow for higher skill expression, since you have to react faster... besides. If you don't like going *fast* in a SONIC game?? something's wrong with you.
Faster speeds = higher skill level if implemented correctly. In MSA2’s case, we balanced it out for what we currently have. So for players who don’t spindash to go fast, they can take the easier routes. Alternate paths require higher speed & skill to navigate and offer a more satisfying gameplay experience/flow. I’m dropping the top running speed down from 6.6 to 5.18 so players will be running just slightly over the max speed SA2 lets you sprint at (5.02) to balance out the restored slope physics.
@@oreomerchant6600 Never said the game was "better" due to higher speeds. But people who play Sonic games generally replay them over and over again, to enjoy the game play and get the best time that they can. Besides. As the mod author posted, you can have vanilla speeds still. The higher speeds are simply an option.. you even read the description?
@@murasame_VA you’re phrasing makes it seem very obvious that you think it’s better, and also, I wasn’t against it. Some people may think the higher speed is worse, and it being a sonic game doesn’t mean that it has to be really fast to be good.
@@TheeMentorDex im not against it , i was stating that higher speed does not actually result in better gameplay if done incorrectly. The commenter’s phrasing suggests that you have to have a fast speed in a sonic game for it to be good, when I disagree.
I need sega to see this, I think like you can feel the speed better here than with the boost dynamics. It would be cool if they returned to the Sonic Adventure formulas.
(hi mentor dex is me from the skulls stream probably you already forgot lol but anyways) i just want to give some feedback: the new paths made for the stages are amazing but i think you should focus mode on plataforming than speed like the new path with lightspeed dash with shadow in 4:06 because the trick ramps made some unfair deaths because of the speed maybe focusing in more open areas to make the shortcuts like green forest or final chase (omg final chase in this update is godly) so thats my criticsm (use more shortcuts with light speed with shadow because he didnt used in the base game besides we knowing he has this ability) and make more open shortcuts like in green forest or focused more on plataforming than speed, because the trick ramps are a little broken because of the higher speed so light speed dash would be a great solution for shortcuts with shadow. Oh now i am curious you gonna remake the last story too and the cutscenes? Or it will be handraw cutscenes like with sonic forces overclock team? Or making a modern playable super sonic or super shadow in the stages like in P-06? But overall that is now the definitive way to play SA2.
the more I see the better. My only grip is sonic's victory animation looks janky and cut quick ( for me, at least) shadow's animation definitely improved significantly. I feel like sonic just needs more movement into it. but overall, I'm enjoying each version! Keep up the excellent work!
I like this!! Any plans for readjusting the chao garden if you're going the entire game? My apologies if i misunderstood anything I'm unfamiliar with modding
Absolutely phenomal here work , but there's one thing i gotta ask before i commit to a download , youve said you can switch between assets of vanilla and modded (like the models themselves ) does this apply to voices too ? Id love to play this , but not if i cant hear the original voice actors.
That wasn’t said anywhere 😂 There’s only two options in the mod’s config so far: 1) MSA2 Soundtrack or Remastered SA2 OST 2) MSA2 models or Faithfully Recreated SA2 models
@TheeMentorDex my bad , I didnt notice the "faithfully recreated " and assumed that was just the vanilla models. Def giving this a skip then , also the laughing emoji was unnecessary so, hope your mod fails. Havin a cocky attitude is the fuckin worst as a mod author.
All good. Ideally I’d have ported the vanilla models. Rigging them with moving fingers is a right pain, so figured sculpting the main models would suffice. This is a concept mod, so even I wouldn’t recommend using it as a “must have” mod, but more of “let’s see what this is about”, if that makes sense? You’re looking too much into that emoji. I found it funny as this was never said anywhere. I wasn’t being cocky and I’m not sure how I even came across like that.
CITY ESCAPE CRITIQUE/SUGGESTIONS The original game had lot more focus on the music and didn't care nearly as much about Sonic's footsteps. The ramps send Sonic too low when he tricks off of them, so he can't get enough air to pop the item boxes or get the AWESOME award. I also prefer the original SA2 voice acting over the Generations voice acting. I would have liked to see the Generations level design though (without the 2d parts, because the 2d parts are boring). I do really like the animation changes, but I do think that the jumping animation needs tweaked so it doesn't look like he is upside down at the beginning of the animation. Other than that one tweak, the animations are fantastic. TLDR: I mainly have issue with footsteps being too audible, the jump animation for Sonic, and the ramps sending Sonic too low when tricking off of them. Would love to see the Generations City Escape without the 2D sections.
I think another feature that would also easily blow minds. Is when Tails' new theme song is KSI's Thick of it. But then again would fit Charmy Bee better than Tails and Cream combined
⚠️ Did you know?
1️⃣ The running speeds you see in this project are just a tad faster than what you can run at in the original game! Modern SA2, just like the Genesis games, allows you to maintain slightly higher speed than normal (not too crazy). We’ve allowed players to run at regular speeds, or run a little faster if they want. I’m just going fast because that’s how I like to play and show off the project lol.
Vanilla SA2 puts you right back to a low speed of 3.4 and stops you from maintaining a slightly higher speed value. Slope physics has been restored too! This is only 100% on for when you’re spindashing in vanilla, and 50% on for when running. In MSA2, this is 100% for both states. We also have dynamic FOV, so the faster you go, the higher the FOV. This also adds to the sense of speed.
2️⃣ Modern SA2 now has a configuration file! Select "MSA2: The Trial v3 - [PART 1]" in the mod manager and click “Configure” to change the soundtrack used and the character model style! Modern SA2 Soundtrack or Remastered SA2 OST. MSA2 Character Models or Faithful SA2 Models. The choice is yours!
🚨 Please read the page's description so you're aware of everything. I guarantee you that nearly ALL of your questions will be answered on the Gamebanana page!
give us the ability to disable the voice acting too :)
@@dinglebingus2625 this
@@TheeMentorDex Oh, that's good to know about the speed. All the configuration options are very nice so people can play the way they want to using modern sa2 faithful or remastered. I appreciate these options!
YOU DID WHAT TO MY DAD!?!?!?
i see you updated this post, are you going to use the suggestion?
the animation is nice but the visuals honestly give off roblox vibes and its a bit distracting. dont see a point in replacing the voice acting either, does not sound very good to me
Yeah I agree. I can really appreciate the work put into it though and the animations are great, but I find it weird having the characters going faster than they're meant to, sometimes breaking the stage more and making you see out of bounds so often
Yeah don’t get me wrong I like the speed the characters go and the new models which look amazing but the rest of the areas give a Roblox vibe. Although changing all textures and all models would be a huge task for a small group doing this for free. Depending on how much they can change they could add extra building meshes in parts of the map to fix the out of bounds issues.
It’s in the title. This is what sonic adventure 2 could have looked like if it was released now. It’s not a remake more of a small reimagining. Also I don’t see the problem with the voice acting, everyone did an amazing job
This project is a mod for the original game (Steam release) and aims to mimic an early Xbox 360 game (low poly was still the style in 2005). There’s nothing more I can do with the visuals. It’s only diffuse textures on the Dreamcast. I’m also not sure how this is distracting when anyone can play the game just fine?
@@TheeMentorDex im not trying to discredit the work thats gone into this at all, it's more of an observation than critcism (minus the voice acting, I just think it sounds strange personally but thats pretty subjective) I think its impressive that youve done as much as you have. I just think its sort of like the GTA trilogy remasters where you take the original assets and modify them a little while still obviously working with a very outdated engine which can and will give off some uncanny vibes. I think the movement tweaks youve added look super fun though, I dont really mess around with sa2 mods but I might try this one out just for the movement alone. Ultimately what I said isnt really something you can do something about without just creating a whole new game, so Im not trying to insinuate youve done anything wrong. Infact its very impressive, especially again, the animation.
i dont need a SA2 remake since i found this. It is as smooth as butter. The character models are the best ive seen in the series.
All that's missing is a remake of all the stages to have the definitive SA2 experience.
This is what I wish Shadow’s running animation looked like
The animations are incredible, the way Sonic leans into his turns makes the movement look so fluid!
Sega: Hasn't put out any news on remaking Sonic Adventure 2
This GOAT of a modder: Fine, I'll do it myself!
you guys knocked it out of the park!! the character models look smooth and great, and dry lagoon looks unrecognizable!! even tails has a new model!! my only complaint is that speed characters move too fast in this build and stages feel a bit small because of it, like the start to green forest i.e.
but overall, such a fresh take on sa2, love it!!
Appreciate the support!
You only go this fast if you want to. Spindash to go fast or run down a slope and maintain your velocity. The top speed is now only slighter higher than vanilla SA2’s. In older builds, the speed was insane and uncontrollable. We also have dynamic FOV and subtle camera shake, so the faster you run, the higher the FOV.
Naturally, I’m going fast cuz I’m a chad 💪🏼 😂
@@TheeMentorDexyou can see how much faster you move the second sonic lands on his feet in city escape without spindashing,too off putting imo
25:52 Wait, I've just noticed, when you lose rings in this mod, they aren't taking them all.. THIS IS BRILLIANT!! The thing that I hated the most about the early 3D Sonic games is the fact that no matter how high or low your ring count is, it will reset to zero once being hit (just like the classic games), sure you collect them back, but only 20 maximum, and that sucks, aspecially when your trying to do does 100 rings missions in both SA2 and Heroes.
I'm pretty sure Black Doom would love this
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yeah its blowing my mind with the god awful audio remplacement. Models are nice tho, really dope.
That rendition of final chase was some of the most exhilarating and epic level design I've seen from a sonic game. So many paths and freedom of choice on how to traverse the stage, the epic ost rendition, loved every second. Not only that but the level design feels like it's something that could've actually been in the base game, you clearly understand the design philosophy and nuances of adventure 2. You've really outdone yourself. Awesome mod! Very talented.
Lowkey looking pretty dang smooth, and the little additions look like theyll be great for a faster flowing experience. Hope we get full customization with this, like render distance and the ability to revert audio. You can tell some maps arent made to be seen from such a far distance, and it greatly shows its age, that aside the restoration like this looks great, my only real gripe is the small additions to music and voice acting...
The squash and stretch in this mod is WIIIIIIIIILD! And it's like if Sonic World was released TODAY! Smooth stuff!
Cant wait to see more with this mod! It looks better and better with every update! I'm especially excited for all the level design changes, they look to do a great job adding replayability to previously pretty linear stages
Shadows skating animation is by far better than what SEGAs given shadow in recent years. It's genuinely beautiful!
Honestly this has been the most fun, I've had with the SA2 stages. This one mod actually clears up the main issue, I have with them. And it's that sense of freedom of movement.
I am very impressed! Both the visual upgrades, stage redesigns, and movement overhauls breath new life into the game!
4:18 i dunno how to feel about the yellow fan in here. It looks out of place to me, but everything else is cool. Great job!
I was like "This shii is fir- IS THAT A FCKING DAY-NIGHT CYCLE???"
Already got it downloaded
And thanks again for listening to my suggestion
this really is a more modern take on sa2
look at what they did with rouge
Like they took away her bouncing gazongas???
Please make an option to not use the new voices. Thats the one thing I dislike
TOOO FUCKING BAD
It's like seeing the gods returning to Olympus, great job bro, this will be the mod of the year
Amazing work!! Take your time guys, you’ve put in a ton of effort into this. Can’t wait to see what you guys accomplish next!
This looks absolutely beautiful! The squash and stretch is amazing, alongside all the flips and stylish flair for each character. The new VAs sound incredible too! I'm kinda jealous we don't get this exact scale in the mainline Sonic games.
A change I feel like isn't getting appreciated enough is not losing every ring you have if you get hit. No longer need flawless runs for an A rank!
Broo THANK YOU for not wildin out like everyone else in the comments section 🙏🏼 Honestly idk what these bruddahs smoking but hey they’re boosting the video so W 😂
The way our ranking is done is that you need 80% of the total score to get an A Rank. This means you’re now forced to hit a lotta enemies, collect a ton of rings, break boxes and get items to max out your points AND get to the goal in a reasonably fast time! If you ever play this project in the future, you’ll see how you no longer get A Ranks easily.
6 years... this project has been going on for 6 years...
there have been so many advancements in SA2 modding within that timegap.
From the Chao world, to the character models being replacable and now to the insane stuff we have now!
Huge props to you and the team, Dex!
Don't forget to take your time with the project, as well as your other projects.
Personally don’t see the reason for all the hate this is a really good mod. And the voice acting is pretty good idk what you guys are on. Must be nostalgia I guess?
Broo it’s mad cuz if you look at Overtime’s video on our work, the comment section is the POLAR opposite 💀 Idk if people are taking the piss cuz I’m the lead dev posting the video on the project? Honestly, I find it proper funny 😂
So for me its more of the voice is going for a hybrid of Ryan Drummond and Jun'ichi Kanemaru (English and Japanese va for SA2), the lines mesh well with each other but not the voices so much, thats just me. As for everything else, idk why people are bashing the mod. they are acting like its final, instead of improvments being able to be made down the line. in my opinion, it's a great mod with a lot of charisma and heart put into it. Sure, lighting can be fixed, and some things here and there, but the mod is doing great! People just gotta 'Live and Learn'!
I don't know. After learning that it's the lead dev calling his own work "peak" I think the "hate" (A.K.A opinions you disagree with) is justified.
@@XxXQuickScoperXxXJoinThePartyfr selfglazing just ain't for me
there's hate?
The animation work is exceptional. Love the use of physics bones on the characters' heads, it really adds so much character to their motion.
0:32 is that the NFS:MW radio chatter?
pretty confident it is
I haven’t seen this mod in a long while but I really like the new animations and custom voicework giving the mod its own identity and they all fit the characters like a glove so far, can’t wait to see the rest of them
I love how smooth shadow's skating animation is. I didn't really like how he was skating super fast in the original Sonic Adventure 2
*Me ecstatic that this is so good and amazing*
*Also me sad that if we do get an official sa2 remake it wont even be 1% as good as this*
Love what that you made this and you deserve so much praise keep up the amazing work.
Thank you very much for the Shout out!!! I LOVE your Rouge model so much!✨✨
This project is nothing short of amazing. Love the updates to the old satges of SA2. While I do feel the models are a bit too shiny they are not bad at all. The Voice acting is a great touch specially because it could mean a possible faithful recreation of the original story that the english translation kind of butchered.
All in all, this is fucking sick. Downloading this as soon as I figure out how to make my control work with SA2
I adore this mod, oh my stars you did such an incredible job! It straight up looks like Sonic 06 graphics, but better! I don't get what people are saying with the new voice lines, I actually rather like them. Especially Rouge and Shadow! And the plap of Sonic's feet when he runs is genuinely hilarious and honestly a nice touch. Gonna download this as soon as I possibly can, can't wait to relive my childhood in the best way possible!!!
Honestly. I really like this! And idk why the fans are clowning on the voice acting, they are doing just fine as it is. As a VA myself, i can understand the struggles they must be having (especially since im good friends with the Sonic VA, and work with him) so i think the fans need to gives these voices a chance! Keep up the great work!
I like the impression of sonic very much. It sounds like a fusion of Ryan Drummond and Jun'ichi Kanemaru. The overall attitude and pitch of jun'ichi and the slight cheesiness of Ryan. The perfect combination, IMO
My personal favorite thing of this mod is the way they animated rouge's gliding. Its so very perfect for her!
This game has been around for YEARS...
And I've NEVER seen it played so good!!!
EXCELLENT VIDEO😁👍
Love the effort! I think the voices are good, I like the originals but these are good too, def gonna download it at some point
DRY LAGOON CRITIQUE/SUGGESTIONS
Bring back the original emerald radar dinging. 😢
Rogue voice acting and animations are great! ❤....except her swimming animation 😂 which looks goofy as heck. She just rolls into a ball?
Please do a model viewing because i am most interested in looking at the characters in a 360 setting. Still great job on this and i am excited fo try some day. ❤
Stay tuned for the next MSA2 video cuz that’ll be in it 👀
Not sure if it was intentional, but Radical Highway has some subtle storytelling in it and its so aghhhh😍😍😍 Like the hot air balloons, advertisements, and other objects are Shadow's subconscious trying to piece together his situation and his little amnesia he's got. Intentional or not, it makes it sooo much more cool😍😍
A quality Rouge model with the outfit God intended.
Cool improvements of Metal Harbor (now we can have run on a coast), City Escape (has playground, a lot of decorations like Gens), Radical Highway/Green Forest/Final Rush/Final Chase have new shortcuts but modernized as well too. Would be awesome if stage length were like Heroes/Shadow/2006 which will make SA2 the best adventure game in 2024, besides SADX. Really loving your work, Dex.😮😊🎉
P.S. : i got a weird idea which could work - why don't you put Cannon Core/Cosmic Wall/Eternal Engine sections with gates, bridges into Final Rush/Chase so it would give resemblance of SonXShad Gens
Shadows skating is already best in the vanilla SA2 more than any game
these stage edits are awesome, but i think the purple rails on final chase at the beginning should utilize more verticle rail launching, like the verticle rail blocks in final rush. where if you have enough momentum, you can jump off of them and get insane height. final rush also had a few that were diagonal/sideways that were essentially used as platforms rather than flat ground, making it way scarier and riskier. that and maybe verticle walls/platforms that you have to navigate or jump around. upper path should be hardest, not easiest. awesome work!
Yo you know what? That's a proper good shout. I'll keep this noted for the final build 🗿🤝
I fucking love the idea of in this hypothetical remake in the series they whould have Ryan voice sonic and have Jason as Shadow in the same game absolutely brilliant.
Yeah i would definitely see this is how Sonic Adventure 2 would look if it wasn't rushed in animations and Sega was still kicking in the console market
Wow I am looking forward to this. Been wanting a remaster of this game for years.
METAL HARBOR
Holy crap this is different! 😂❤ Looks fun though!
Love how Sonic and Shadow move, it's so smooth and beautiful
Also what feels so good about SA2 is that the game wasnt that paused in pace. You went level after lever in story mode, without the need to choose the next level like in SonicxShadow Generations. And the variations in characters levels didnt make you feel so easily bored.
Yo Shadows run looks great, it looks weird in most games but this rest captures the right mix of speed and skating flow.
You were right, it did blow my mind, you're doing God's work here.
Running animations and jumps are smooth af. Love they added the steps sfx
Honestly, I liked basically everything, especially the animations for the victory poses. [though some clipping may need some fixing on some]
The new VA's are doing really good close impressions of the of SA2 characters too, which I love. Doesn't feel like the VA's are trying to match their modern counterparts, and instead going right for that older style. Even the voice acting feels like it has that slight muffle the old voicework kinda had...that or I'm just imagining things. Still though, fantastic stuff!
I think my only major critique is that intro for Metal harbor. I assume it's similar to that grind rail at the top of the early turn in City Escape, and, maybe the Metal harbor land areas were a concept that never made it into the level...but as it is here, for some reason I felt extremely lost, even in the video. Just kinda wondering where I would've been supposed to go.
Maybe it can be reworked to direct the player more, or something else, but I do prefer the old 'dropped into a downward slope' from the original. [that and it felt trippy to see land at all, but maybe that's just something to get used to]
But everything else was really fun to see, great work!
I mixed on the new speed, new voice lines, and the art direction
But the characters models and animations are incredible
Does look sick I just started to mod this game last month(mainly for chao stuff) but definitely going get this mod
Amazing work as usual friends!
metal harbor being completely redone was insane to see
If everything either gets a retexture, enemies get new models too, and so on…. Sure, this would work well. But you HAVE to get the original voices back.
Big fan of how the levels look in this mod. I will say though, the water effect in Metal Harbor was really messing with my eyes and making me feel ill.
Does Rouge keep the “Physics” from the original?
It blew my mind so bad i needed to buy a new one 😭😭😔😔
Awesome work!
Buy a new mind?? Bruh
HIRE THIS GUY NOWWWWWW THESE MODED MODELS ARE INSANELY WELL PUT TOGETHER ITS HOW THEY SHOULD BE THEY WERE ALREADY GREAT BUT THIS GUY MADE THEM BETTER SPECTACULAR JOB SIR!!!! This is the talent SEGA NEEDS after forces I was done with sonic man but this THIS IS WHAT WE NEED ❤❤❤
Looks awesome. Love the animations
Amazing job! I need this NOWWWWWWW 😭😭
With the update to the game's shadows, if there's a way to add highlights on top, I'd massively recommend looking into it. Something felt missing the entire time watching and I think once I got to the Chao Garden at the end, I realise it was some lighting highlights on the characters/environments themselves.
Is there a way to do baked highlights on the environments based on where the sun is and then realtime on the characters? (I think Sonic Unleashed used this exact method actually, which is very 360 era.) Yeah, visually, that's all that's missing atm that I reckon will bump this up massively.
It's looking pretty interesting though. Keep at it guys; looking forward to seeing more progress.
Ahh, you’re on about specular. The SA2 ports broke specular lighting, hence the flat look on enemies, objects and characters. I could add a subtle highlight to my falloff environment map textures. However, it won’t match the light direction. Best to wait until Shaddatic has this restored in Render Fix.
Insane character animations
Sonics' voice sounds like if bugs bunny was trying to speak with a deeper voice.
To all the people complaining about the running speeds; cry about it. The higher speeds allow for higher skill expression, since you have to react faster... besides. If you don't like going *fast* in a SONIC game?? something's wrong with you.
I’m not against it, but higher speed does not equal “higher skill expression” or that the game is “better”.
Faster speeds = higher skill level if implemented correctly. In MSA2’s case, we balanced it out for what we currently have.
So for players who don’t spindash to go fast, they can take the easier routes. Alternate paths require higher speed & skill to navigate and offer a more satisfying gameplay experience/flow.
I’m dropping the top running speed down from 6.6 to 5.18 so players will be running just slightly over the max speed SA2 lets you sprint at (5.02) to balance out the restored slope physics.
@@oreomerchant6600 Never said the game was "better" due to higher speeds. But people who play Sonic games generally replay them over and over again, to enjoy the game play and get the best time that they can.
Besides. As the mod author posted, you can have vanilla speeds still. The higher speeds are simply an option.. you even read the description?
@@murasame_VA you’re phrasing makes it seem very obvious that you think it’s better, and also, I wasn’t against it. Some people may think the higher speed is worse, and it being a sonic game doesn’t mean that it has to be really fast to be good.
@@TheeMentorDex im not against it , i was stating that higher speed does not actually result in better gameplay if done incorrectly. The commenter’s phrasing suggests that you have to have a fast speed in a sonic game for it to be good, when I disagree.
Hero and Chao Garden look fucking amazing!!
It feels like GUN is actually trying to stop Sonic. Theres actual baracades and traps in the levels instead of a few robots put around.
13:18 can't tell if Black Arms symbol, or the Scrin from Command & Conquer 3, but I like it. Lol
I need sega to see this, I think like you can feel the speed better here than with the boost dynamics. It would be cool if they returned to the Sonic Adventure formulas.
(hi mentor dex is me from the skulls stream probably you already forgot lol but anyways) i just want to give some feedback: the new paths made for the stages are amazing but i think you should focus mode on plataforming than speed like the new path with lightspeed dash with shadow in 4:06 because the trick ramps made some unfair deaths because of the speed maybe focusing in more open areas to make the shortcuts like green forest or final chase (omg final chase in this update is godly) so thats my criticsm (use more shortcuts with light speed with shadow because he didnt used in the base game besides we knowing he has this ability) and make more open shortcuts like in green forest or focused more on plataforming than speed, because the trick ramps are a little broken because of the higher speed so light speed dash would be a great solution for shortcuts with shadow. Oh now i am curious you gonna remake the last story too and the cutscenes? Or it will be handraw cutscenes like with sonic forces overclock team? Or making a modern playable super sonic or super shadow in the stages like in P-06? But overall that is now the definitive way to play SA2.
When I played this game as a kid, this is what I imagined the game looked like! thank you for making this. How can I play this?
Right, so I'm sure you _can_ go this fast in the original game, but certainly not _this_ easily! Love it though, if I'm honest.
Insane animations my only gripe is really the voiceless at the end of the stage occasionally
theres no SA2 remake or remaster*
MentorDex: Fine I'll do it myself
i cant get over sonic running tippy taps
the more I see the better. My only grip is sonic's victory animation looks janky and cut quick ( for me, at least) shadow's animation definitely improved significantly. I feel like sonic just needs more movement into it. but overall, I'm enjoying each version! Keep up the excellent work!
RADICAL HIGHWAY CRITIQUE/SUGGESTIONS
No complaints, Shadow voice acting is awesome.
You fixed the radar omg lol. Only critique I have is the camera need some work but this looks pretty good.
The SA2 HD ports if SEGA locked tf in:
I like this!! Any plans for readjusting the chao garden if you're going the entire game? My apologies if i misunderstood anything I'm unfamiliar with modding
Chao Gardens have already been done! You’ll see them towards the end of the video 👀
Absolutely phenomal here work , but there's one thing i gotta ask before i commit to a download , youve said you can switch between assets of vanilla and modded (like the models themselves ) does this apply to voices too ? Id love to play this , but not if i cant hear the original voice actors.
That wasn’t said anywhere 😂
There’s only two options in the mod’s config so far:
1) MSA2 Soundtrack or Remastered SA2 OST
2) MSA2 models or Faithfully Recreated SA2 models
@TheeMentorDex my bad , I didnt notice the "faithfully recreated " and assumed that was just the vanilla models.
Def giving this a skip then , also the laughing emoji was unnecessary so, hope your mod fails. Havin a cocky attitude is the fuckin worst as a mod author.
All good. Ideally I’d have ported the vanilla models. Rigging them with moving fingers is a right pain, so figured sculpting the main models would suffice. This is a concept mod, so even I wouldn’t recommend using it as a “must have” mod, but more of “let’s see what this is about”, if that makes sense?
You’re looking too much into that emoji. I found it funny as this was never said anywhere. I wasn’t being cocky and I’m not sure how I even came across like that.
That Sonic voice is cursed
Definitely gonna give this a try!!!
It looks BEAUTIFUL but 1:09 what’s going on with the rail physics?
MSA2 allows you to hold X to go faster. Similar to Heroes, Shadow and 06 with tapping X rapidly to flip and go faster
Looking great!
This is like those Half-Life 2 mods that give Alyx ginormous gozangas
I love the new animations and models
5:31 Not going on the suspension cables is criminal…
CITY ESCAPE CRITIQUE/SUGGESTIONS
The original game had lot more focus on the music and didn't care nearly as much about Sonic's footsteps. The ramps send Sonic too low when he tricks off of them, so he can't get enough air to pop the item boxes or get the AWESOME award. I also prefer the original SA2 voice acting over the Generations voice acting. I would have liked to see the Generations level design though (without the 2d parts, because the 2d parts are boring).
I do really like the animation changes, but I do think that the jumping animation needs tweaked so it doesn't look like he is upside down at the beginning of the animation. Other than that one tweak, the animations are fantastic.
TLDR: I mainly have issue with footsteps being too audible, the jump animation for Sonic, and the ramps sending Sonic too low when tricking off of them. Would love to see the Generations City Escape without the 2D sections.
I think another feature that would also easily blow minds. Is when Tails' new theme song is KSI's Thick of it. But then again would fit Charmy Bee better than Tails and Cream combined
This is a great idea I second this. In fact they should replace sonic tails and knuckles with the lunchly gang.
The GOAT, Knuckles is still not playable? Guess I better stay tuned
no big rouge tiddy... is sad... understandable, but still... sad...
Now we're cookin'!