easy35 from Valoi || Overview
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Make it 120 and I‘m in
I do expect a separate unit for 120, which sadly does mean an extra $250 in some cases. A pro version of this unit for both 120 and 35mm in the future would be ideal.
I was really disappointed with my Valoi - I had the early adopter wheels on mine which were terrible at pulling through the film. It got to the point that I gave up using it, and decided to just shoot 35mm going forward to avoid the hassle of setting it up only to get wonky or weird results. This looks far more promising though, would be interested to see a medium format version!
And just get in touch if you want help with setting it up too - we can diagnose most problems from a few pictures of your setup and your scanning results.
*This video is about the Valoi Easy35 system* not the one you used. I've got it and have processed a pair of rolls through. Simple to assemble and to use.
Works perfectly and I have used film and flatbed scanners, as well as a dedicated cam-scan setup with column. Zero problems with dust.
I'm tackling a *_very slight_* light creep at the first and last frames of a strip but it seems it's only because I cut the first roll before scanning, as this shows only on the roll cut before scanning and not on the other that was scanned with a small leader and trailer.
IMHO, this design is sheer genious, it works like a charm and it is the most affordable solution of all. Like many have said, it's the death toll of the scanner.
That's a killer product!! Now when they make a 120 version, I'll buy that sucker!!!
JJC make one very similar, with or without a light. It uses a 6-frame neg holder like a film scanner, or a dual slide holder. It comes with a range of adapters for different macro lenses. It’s also half the price of this one. I don’t know how build quality compares, obviously. If it matches the existing Valoi system it should be great. Like you said, there’s lots of choices at the moment.
Its the same design as all the slide duplication rigs used to be, makes much more sense than the whole copystand setup that was a terrible idea to begin with.
The JJC system looks like a discounted copy of the Nikon ES-2 Film Digitizing Adapter. They even call their product the "ES-2" as if to remove any doubt. Is it just a cheap, flimsy copy of Nikon's product, or does it offer some advantage?
While my opinion is biased so go do your own research but: it's a cheap and crude thing - the holders are trash (you have to insert the film into a fiddly strip for each 6 strips then feed that into a hole), the light is low power and not even and the overall build quality is typical cheap injection moulded stuff. It struck me as a product made by someone who understands how to put a cheap suitcase to market in terms of product design, but don't understand scanning at all. I've spent the past 4 years of my life understanding scanning and so designed the easy35.
- Arild (VALOI Founder)
@@valoicoWell lets face it, you original design clearly showed you had no understanding of "scanning". The copystand system is a horrible idea and exactly showed you lack any real understanding of what you are doing.
Even this easy35, could be vastly improved if you actually had spend time understanding "scanning". But at least you finally copied the only design that makes sense, something you should have started in the first place.
@@valoico I did do my research. I actually bought one because it seemed a more practical and affordable solution than the rather restricted and expensive Nikon ES-2. The concept is hardly new. Slide duplicators have been around for decades, and my first (unsuccessful) attempt at digitising slides was with one of those old ones I got off eBay for £5. With the JJC all the threaded tubing is metal, only the part that holds the film is plastic. The actual film strip holder is the same style that comes with some film scanners that I have used before switching to the more convenient digital camera method. Yes, the holder is a little fiddly, but it gets easier with practice. The fact that it came with a slide holder was important as the bulk of my archive is slides. I didn't buy the model with the included, removable light because I have the Raleno light I use with the Valoi System. I bough the JJC version because it was the only alternative available at the time, and because a friend was looking for something affordable to do some occasional digitising, so I was testing it for him. I've written a series of blog posts on my website outlining my adventures in scanning/digitising film over the years, and you'll be pleased to know that the Valoi System has been my favourite, and I was going to invest in this new one, but it is more money than I want or need to spend at the moment, especially as I have two systems that work, or three if you count the Nikon Coolscan 4000. Your new one is definitely a welcome addition to the market and I'm sure it will be a success.
This looks like an amazing camera scanning solution that cuts out all the fiddly aspects of dslr/mirrorless scanning! I’d love to test it out on my channel at some point! Do the first & last frames of the roll stay flat? That’s a problem I’ve run into with other film holders in the past when scanning strips of 6
Yes, all the fiddly aspects of the stuff they sold previously when they released a product that made no sense at all. And now they finally copied the only design that has been around for decades that makes sense, and slapped a 20$ led light on it and a kickstarter here we go.
Looks really good and unlike the first scanner I've decided to get it. This will speed up the proces for sure ❤🎉
I personally use a gfx with Mamiya macro 120 on a copy stand but I decided to back this to see if I can get away with a smaller setup. Also it’s the exact kind of product I would have liked 4 years ago when I started scanning myself.
I have the same setup did it work ok?
@@Mushu8495 it just arrived today and unfortunately I'm gone over the weekend and unable to test, but I've moved to a smaller place so hoping it will be able to replace my copy stand.I haven't got any of the extension tubes, I should have but will look into it in a bit.
@@dylan.thissen does this work well with a GFX? I have the same setup.
In all seriousness: where the final price of 200euros comes from? Ulanzi VL81 LED panel costs $15.95, the rest is 3D (or sort of) printed housing and inserts. Forgot about step-up rings to support variety of lenses, but they are sold separately anyways(?). R&D takes the biggest cut that's for sure, but it is one time payoff.
So how it comes, that 1 tube with thread, 1 hollow "cube" base and 2 inserts minus Ulanzi VL81cost 185euro?
ps: the product is great, no doubts, kudos to engineer(s)!
Add VAT, designed in Finland and profits for retailers later, and you will soon be there or further.
Love the new setup, Nico!
Scan from couch?
I can already see the travel vlogs
- scan from plane seat
- scan at cafe
etc…
Game changer for travel
The one thing I hate about using the negative supply is since you’re laying the film flat it picks up dust like a magnet if you scan the whole roll
The Nikon ES-2 exists and is fine. What we really need is a 120 version please 🙏🏽
I just ordered this product, I'm curious about the results with R8
I just preordered mine yesterday. Even for 230€ it’s worth it! ❤
Hope you enjoy it!
@@NicosPhotographyShow I hope it arrives as soon as possible ❤️
They are working hard on getting them all shipped asap. Should be pretty soon for sure.
Looks better than the Nikon ES2. A film holder would be a great addition.
Hi Nico, I'm one click away from pledging but do you know if the final product will be 3d printed? I don't mind the Ulanzi light as long as it's user replaceable when it dies.
We will use a process called MJF printing in Nylon 12. It's as sturdy or sturdier than Injection moulding and completely different from the 'spaghetti' structure of normal FDM printed parts that you might be more familiar with.
Lights will be replaceable by us and this is something we are very aware of. If we switch to a different light or make a new one, we will find a way to make them backwards compatible for existing users.
I hate scanning but this might get me back back into it.
Im in the same boat. Scanning is by far the worst part of photography.
@@NicosPhotographyShow Well I just ordered one so we'll find out if it will get me back into scanning later in the summer!
looks amazing; gonna buy it probably. Only question I still have is magnification ratio. Which focal length do you need to get full sensor coverage?
I highly recommend reading the campaign. But will ping @valoi
Focal length doesn't matter, just reproduction ratio. For full frame 1:1 is ideal. For APSC, 1:2 is enough. If you are using full frame and your lens only goes to 1:2, the correct extension tube will take it to 1:1.
With a full-frame sensor you will need a lens rated for 1:1 magnification. With APS-C, about 1:1.5. It doesn't have to do with the focal length but of the close-focusing ability of the lens. There are some recommendations in the campaign if you don't already have one :)
I have a dedicated scanner, but will be buying this for the speed. Unfortunately I missed the campaign 😢
Will the finished product be injection molded plastic like the pro system is? That prototype looks 3D printed.
We will use a process called MJF printing. It's as sturdy or sturdier than Injection moulding and completely different from the 'spaghetti' structure of normal FDM printed parts that you might be more familiar with.
I really like it. It is basically a Nikon ES-2 Film Scanning Adapter but it includes a light source. Very nice. BUT I already got the Nikon one and one for 120 from China, so unfortunately about three years too late for me.
What is the 120 version you have from China? Thanks
I am planing to use this on a Nikon D5200, which does not meter on old lenses, say the 55/3.5 nikkor.
What are the exposure settings? And are they always the same?
Hi Nico. Nice video. Thank you for using “digitizing” vs “scanning”. Digitizing or duplicating is a more accurate term. I’m only interested if they made a mounted 35mm slide carrier that would hold 3 or 4 slides at a time. To me this rigid system keeps the film chip completely parallel to the sensor compared to a copy stand approach. Again, thanks for a nice video.
How does the scan quality compare to the already existing “pro” Valoi system?
Hi Nico, any chance this will come for 120 rollfilm? Thanks!
Looks pretty decent to me, nice to skip the fiddly shit with ambient light blah blah. I have a plustek which gives really great results but slow as hell so I might give this a try!
Hm might replace my Plustek because that one really is slow…
about to cut my film costs by 2/3s 🥳🥳
Would this work on a Leica M digital body with an adapted lens?
Yes! One of the first bodies I tested it on was a Leica M10-P with a Nikkor 55mm f/2.8. Works great! :D
@@valoico Perfect, thanks for the response. My main camera is a Typ 246 and love the DNG files. For film, I shoot B&W. This sounds like a great combination for my workflow. 👍🏼
Too limiting. Most people who scan 35mm want the choice of showing perf or not. This doesnt.
It does actually :) The campaign let's you either replace the standard holder with one showing perforations or get both - they are modular in true VALOI spirit! It's in the add-on section during checkout.
As Valoi mentioned it does offer sprockets scanning.