Metal detecting frequency tests. Do they make a difference? Some interesting results !
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- Higher frequencies are better on smaller tricky targets and lower conductors? Lower frequencies on deeper bigger targets? Let's put the theory to the test and have some fun.
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That was the best educational detecting video I have seen, it certainly gets the point across. I have just subscribed, I am going to look through at your previous videos hoping to find more no nonsense demonstrations
Hi Robert. There's some interesting tests on reactivity in the video library too, and I'll be doing more experimenting in the future. Thanks for joining the group. ATB MMMD
Great video, Max, common sense from start to finish! Thanks mate, very interesting.
Very interesting video you showed us.
Always nice to watch your videos.
Thanks for showing, keep up the good work 👍
Grts Remy (Holland)
Thank you, I really appreciate that, pleased to hear you enjoy them. ATB MMMD
Good video mate! Just picked up a anfibio multi and I have noticed that the higher frequencies make the gold tones pop a little more and the lower makes silver tones sound a little crisper. Really enjoyed the video!! Keep swinging brother!
Hey thanks Allie, good luck with the Anfibio I have heard really good things about that machine. ATB MMMD
Much appreciate the video !
No problem ATB MMMD
Great information, thanks for sharing. I have often wondered if the difference was that significant.
Glad it was helpful buddy. ATB MMMD
Good onset test . I have the deus and that certainly opened my eyes . Thanks for shareing
My pleasure, glad you liked it buddy. ATB MMMD
Hi mate , some good information there my friend and i am sure it will be helpful to people who are confused about what the different frequencies are capable of , nice one mate ATB GL & HH Rob .
Cheers Robbie, glad you liked it mate. ATB MMMD
Thats a very interesting demonstration, thank you.
At the club last night, someone was telling me about a detector that very quickly steps through a range of frequencies and locks onto the one that gives the best signal. He understood that Deus were rumoured to be introducing a version too.
Thanks again Max, I will be trying 12KHz next time I'm on the field.
Hi Ken. That sounds like a fantastic idea, would love to know the machine that does that now. ATB MMMD
Great video ! Thanks for sharing
No problem buddy. ATB MMMD
Very interesting. I was out using my Makro today and had a play with frequency’s. The higher the freq the more targets I was getting but had to really slow my swing down. Very well explained mate. 👍👍
Cheers buddy, glad you enjoyed it and found it useful. ATB MMMD
Great video Thanks Max 👍
My pleasure John. ATB MMMD
That was interesting Max and even though I already knew it, it was good to see it in a video for all to see so well done. I make a point, when I'm in the field and when getting a decent signal (I use the HOT programme quite a lot) of then going through the frequencies before I dig it, and make note of the frequency that gives the best response. Then if it's a decent target (a Roman coin for example), I'll change to that frequency for a while. It's all trial and error as you have shown but, yes, frequency can be the difference between finding or missing a target, Cheers!
That's a great idea mate, tune your machine to the best signal on a desired target and run with it. I really like that. Makes good sense. ATB MMMD
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@Arturo Colton Lately I have been using FlixZone. Just google for it =)
@Jameson Rayan yup, I've been watching on flixzone for months myself =)
@Jameson Rayan thank you, I signed up and it seems like they got a lot of movies there :D Appreciate it!!
Even 3 years later very good tests. Appreciate your time. Assume from the age if video you were using regular black coil as the x35 had not come out yet. Thank you much
Hi Michael, yes the black 11" coil, still the only one I use. ATB MMMD
Thanks Max very interesting.....I’m going to try it with my Hf coil
You can get a really big variance with the HF, I have seen it on another video. Good luck with the testing. ATB MMMD
Very good honest real world test. I wish they were all like that form other youtubers!
Thanks Glenn mate I really appreciate that. ATB MMMD
Very informative, great video buddy 👍
Thanks Arron, it's relevant to all machines. ATB MMMD
Good food for thought.
Cheers John. ATB MMMD
Very interesting video thanks.
My pleasure Kelvin. ATB MMMD
great video about frquencies
Thanks buddy. ATB MMMD
Many coin detectors were built around 13kz for the best compromise.
Yes indeed, 10-13khz is a good area of frequency for all round detecting. ATB MMMD
Lower frequencies ( like 4) work better with higher conductive targets like silver and higher frequencies ( like 18) work better with lower conductive frequencies like Gold. Good video. Try a silver coin now. Enjoyed the watch. Cheers my friend
Cheers buddy, I will certainly do more testing in future. ATB MMMD
hahaha howling at your tommy cooper impression....brilliant
What a legend he was eh. Glad it made you chuckle. ATB MMMD
Great film,going to try this with the Orx
Thanks Karl. Can I suggest you try a silver coin too, something I should have done. ATB MMMD
@@MudMaxMetalDetecting aye...il be trying with some hammered mate...great films, keep um coming
@@bordersearcher2548 Thanks mate, the support much appreciated. ATB MMMD
Very nice test, I would be interested to view the same test with concentric and double D coils on the same machine and see what's up there. Will the concentric have some surprises?
Yes that would be interesting, needs someone with a multi frequency machine that has a concentric in the range. ATB MMMD
Max I was taught if a coin is vertical and you scan it along the axis you will probably not get a signal, if you scan it across the axis you will get a signal in one direction possibly both. I noticed your 1st coin was slanted say E/W and the 2nd test was N/S, so a bit surprised the no find sweep direction did not move 90 degrees as well.
Yes I agree in regards the axis, I have found that to be true. There is so much more I could have done, and more angles, but I didn't want it to be too long. I think people have to take the videos as suggestions and then maybe do their own tests for their hunting/finds. Hope that makes sense. ATB MMMD
Nivel video i want to know wich one is better mx sport or makro gold. Kruzer. For nuggets and looking for some tressure
Interesting video Max im gonna try this with the equinox
Let me know what you think buddy. ATB MMMD
i have a few machines but specific machines for differant situations and khz is a major factor on one of my machines garrett at gold iron rejection and recovery built for that purpose so when people do head to heads against 2 models i do not always believe it
Hi Sprayzzz. Thanks for the comments. ATB MMMD
SHOWS WHY A FIELD IS NEVER WORKED OUT!
I recently bought an ORX + X35 11" based on freq range and weight and am still getting used to it that so vid was very helpful. However I suspect your very good video might be a good advert for the Nox800 in multi. Would love to see that test on same patch run with the 800 in multi which was my 2nd choice but lost out on weight and portability. BTW going to take a long time to adjust to sooty and sweep after nice clean tones on my 400i
From what I have researched, the Nox is a little deeper on pasture, and maybe that's why. XP still has a slight edge on worked farmland, or so I'm told. Maybe the type of land is as significant as the frequency. Hmmmm. More testing ! ATB MMMD
I did a test when i had the nox and the reason i chose to keep the deus was when there was a target like a coin on edge for example, the deus even though choppy, still gave a high tone breaking through which made me still dig it. The Nox on the other hand wouldnt even give a 2 way signal. The Deus is really outstanding with the audio.
@@Steelzuk Nice feedback, thank you.
great video. amazing what a difference the coin angle makes. be it straight up @ 45 degrees or flat.
Hi Mike, I did another one a few weeks back with air tests, it really is all about the angle of the target. Just shows why we need to dig those iffy signals. ATB MMMD
Great video very informative, could you explain the difference in coil sizes 9" and 11" I thinking buying a deus with all the trimmings and wasn't sure what would be the best size ,
,regards
Thanks buddy. Personally I would go for the 11" but that's based on my own experience. It's a great size for an all rounder and the Deus has options for super fast recovery speed so it can separate targets very well at that size. ATB MMMD
@@MudMaxMetalDetecting thanks m8 I was thinking about getting the 11" option but wasn't 100% .so thanks for your opinion 11" it is ,,,,
Keep up the good work ,hh
What about using the HF? Coil
Good vid bud
👍👍👍
Thanks mate
I've been using the Deus with the eliptical 9" coil on the hot programme (14KHz) and so has my mate. We can find tiny objects but I also found a segment of a bronze age rapier last weekend, and it was deep. I guess there is no 'golden shot' set-up - now I know we have a bronze age site I'll experiment with different frequencies
Sounds like you have a great site there, very best of luck. ATB MMMD
@@MudMaxMetalDetecting thanks, can't wait to get back out there on Sunday
@@MudMaxMetalDetecting An update on this - more recently I have been using the 9" eliptical on 28KHz instead of the default 14KHz and I find loads of new targets, including copper coins on their side. I now go over ground I've already covered on 28KHz to make sure I've got those extra targets.
@@Wally-H Good to hear it all working out successfully buddy. ATB MMMD
I was using a xTerra 505 single frequency and now have a vanquish 440 triple frequency which seems to be getting better results ? What’s your view on this ?
I'm sure you will find the Vanquish a step up Jozef it's a more modern machine with better tech. ATB MMMD
It’s all trial and error? Great video very professional 👍
@@51palmsprings Yes defo, but the Vanquish is a step up from the XTerra.
Is there a difference between the frequency for gold and aluminium, for instance?!
Can something confound the detector?
Hello. Many good targets sound the same as aluminium on all detectors. The machines sense the conductivity of metal and aluminium is the same conductivity as some precious metals. We dig a lot of aluminium. ATB MMMD
Would have liked you to have tested golden mask over each target with its single frequency
Yes that may have been interesting. Still got my GM1+UK a simple but very effective machine. ATB MMMD
Brilliant buddy but where have you gone not seen anything for a couple of year's?
Been a bad couple of years buddy, hoping to get out again soon. Thank you for asking that means a lot.
ATB MMMD
Hi Keith mate, I must of missed this one, very interesting, I am like most detectorists, we must have a multi frequency machine, well not any more..you probably know, I got the ace Apex, and I don't like it at all, it confuses itself and bloody confuses me too.. You seen me out with the ace 400i when I found the silver clog clasp, I would never of found that with the Apex..and when I go on a field, I don't set the machine to find a certain item, ring, cartwheel, hammy, Roman..etc.. That is why I like the 400i, its single frequency 10khz..will find most targets..
I was going to do a similar test with the Apex and the 400i, then I noticed your vid, didn't want to do a copy vid.. but mine will be a test of the two machines together.. maybe do it with a small hammy...
Hope you are staying safe and well
Take care mate
Tom
Hi Tom. I really don't mind if you do a video similar to mine mate, you just make whatever you want to buddy it's no problem. The Apex is a bit different, it combines different frequencies at the same time, whereas the Deus gives you single frequency options. There's not a huge difference in my experience, but they do have slight advantages on the Deus. I always thought the 400i was a great all round detector at 10khz mate. ATB MMMD
@@MudMaxMetalDetecting Hi Keith mate, the Apex does both, multi or single frequency, but the bloody thing just talks to much..LOL
TCM
Tom
@@TomWoodCHESHIREMETALDETECTING Ha ha I hate chatty machines !
So maybe 12 khz is the frequency to start with and adjust accordingly in an unknown field?
Good idea, I have always found 12khz to be a good all rounder, a good starting point. ATB MMMD
Good info I think maybe 8 or 12 would be the best all rounder to start off in. Then change up or down with spitty targets just to see what happens cheers just like that ah haw haw haw 😁
I find 8khz very calm, I often use it when 18khz is too sparky. ATB MMMD
@@MudMaxMetalDetecting just realised I commented 8 months ago too 😂 senior moment just like that 👍
@@lawrencedeans1433 ha ha brilliant mate.
Good
Thank you.
I forgot the engineers name but he discovered 12.6 was the best Khz for detecting coins
Quite possibly right on certain coins made from a certain metal, but it varies slightly. The new high frequency machines have proven exceptional on small thin coins like Romans and Hammereds. ATB MMMD
So what if you have a three frequency metal detector?
If you're referring to your Vanquish then you'll need to do your own testing on the frequencies but in theory it should be fairly similar in respect of frequencies and differences on targets. I think Minelab machines are set up a bit different to Deus with all frequencies running together so that's a different way of detecting. ATB MMMD.
Can I use your detector here in my country
You will need to check the laws for your own country. ATB MMMD
Are you digging up the local beer garden ? 😂😂
Ha ha I guess does look a bit like that. It's a grass area at my office of work, the landlord is kind enough to let me use it. ATB MMMD
Mud Max Metal Detecting 😂😂😂
Dont be foolish only on base how tiny target you are picking up on higher frequency. It is because you are hearing better the difference between as it called in electronics - "frequency shifting" of the target, which is based btw not only on target conductivity as many thinks, but also on target resistivity! For instance thats why you are hearing zing and nickel very clearly nevertheless they are with lower conductivity then silver, copper and gold. Almost 3-4 times - closer to the iron. But zing and nickel are with higher resistivity ;) So about frequencies; the higher the frequency clearer is the response, but easier magnetic field is blocked by the dielectric (soil is a kind of dielectric). The lower the frequency hollower is the response, but harder the magnetic field(the signal of the coil that you produce) is blocked by the dielectric. Just like radio signals; lower wave - higher distance - but less information can carry and easier signal attenuation. And opposite for higher frequencies. Try to test a coin under tick tigulae ( a roman tile) or just some brick on different frequencies to see what will happen. So if you go on high frequency you will miss deep objects. Personally i'm using mostly 7.7 in cornfields and pastures with high grass
, 12 in pastures with low grass and gravel soil and 18 in very rocky places. And trust me, my effectiveness is very good ;) GLHF
Frequensy 4 and 8 khz perfect for silver and bronz coin large !! Italian coin in 4 khz thery perfect reserch ! Low frequensy in my ground 4 khz no mineralizated perfect reserch ! 👍👍👍👍🥰🥰🥰
Hello Fabio. Yes the lower frequencies are very good. Thank you for the comments. ATB MMMD
I would love to of been there with my GMP with the XP 14x12 coil on.
A lot deeper then deus on GMP mode
Yes I am sure that the GMP with a 14x12 may go deeper, but that wasn't really the point of the video buddy. It was purely to demonstrate the variance of positive signal based on a choice of Khz. Hope that makes sense. ATB MMMD
Fairly depressing. Maybe concentric coil?
For some machines perhaps, not available for the Deus though. ATB MMMD
Interesting I think 12khz came off best
Hi Lawrence, yes 12khz did really well. I think 10-15khz are good all rounders. ATB MMMD
@@MudMaxMetalDetecting these are good practical types of tests. It would be nice to see how iron nails and large iron responded to the different frequencies. I'm sure your aware big chunks of iron can fool all machines. Cheers 🍻
@@lawrencedeans1433 Yes I'll be doing iron when I get another chance, and large and small silver. ATB MMMD