By the way I PLAN to count this as part of the All Hero Challenge. I just decided the "All Hero Challenge" probably isn't as alluring to include in the video names? Helps cut the title shorter
Most league player can't even dota and failed so bad yet still shit talk and say league is easier compare to dota, look at price pool, it speak for itself...
@@ExploringFaithinJesusChrist Every Pos 1 Kez on Protracker is going Battlefury after power treads. Mid there is still a ton of different builds but the Pos 1 build seems pretty settled.
Comparing Kez's invis to Akali's seems a little strange, since the only real connection, apart from being invisible, are the smoke particles. The main draw of Akali's is that she can repeatedly go invisible while in the area, this is functionally more similar to Twitch's invis, where there's a visual effect and you go invis and get speedy. So the funny thing with Kez is he apparently had the lowest day 1 winrate in dota 2 history (might have been in a specific bracket, this is just hearsay and I don't know the details). The Aphelios comparison is somewhat apt, since both appear daunting at first but end up being more approachable than you think (seriously, aphelios is not as hard to pick up as he seems since you don't NEED to know all the intricacies to get by) while also having a lot of complexity for those looking to master them. That being said, I think Kez is going to be far above Aphelios in terms of skill ceiling, especially with his aghs. Although you can get by camping on Katana there is so much more you can theoretically do with effective weapon switching, while a lot of the higher skill aspects of Aphelios seems to be just gun rotation. Will be interesting to see where the meta lands with Kez in a month or so though. My initial reaction was thinking he'd be a carry who sometimes went mid, but after seeing him in mid I'm now leaning more towards a mid that sometimes goes carry.
Tiny Clarification, I wasn't meaning that the invisibility is similar, just the fact it's a smokescreen effect. I was just moreso describing it in a way that helps me memorize it. Luckily he was waaay simpler than remembering Aphelios' combo guns, all i've really saw from aphelios in my history of playing since he's been out is just chakram is the weapon you wanna combine everything with LOL xD I totally agree with Kez being way more above aphelios as far as complexity (really they're both fine to memorize if you just play a game or two of them it's just on paper it looks like a lot) kez has more kit while aphelios technically only really has 3 buttons to remember xD Yeah! I totally can't wait to see what people do for Kez, but for ME I wanna try a bunch of stuff, like maybe doing a seige build with sai Q or something. play him as a maybe pseudo split pusher
I don't think you need Tango and branches at the start of Turbo; your courier can fly you regen in under 10 seconds, so get as much damage as you can to gain an advantage on LH.
Wtf under 30 hrs!? i dont believe it! You bought Aghanims scepter when you already had it haha. Alchemist gave you a free one several minutes before that. Remember it glows in your hud
Kez seemed like a bit much when reading him, but none of his abilities are too strong. It's just that he does a little bit of everything, but none of them as well as those that specialize. It's really fun watching people learn him.
Thought he was gonna be yone/yasuo but honestly half his kit is new to Dota and the other half is abilities from other heroes. Didn’t feel like league abilities at all. Even the parry isn’t like firoa cause you can move and block multiple attacks and not like jax cause it’s only in front of you.
@@13YoJest13 Not completely league for sure. But a lot of his kit is definitely reminiscent. But hey there's so many abilities out there its kinda like voices. So many some are bound to be similar. Katana Q is like Yone Q dash minus the repeat Kat W is like Akshan hookshot but for melee E is unique Ult is more fairy balanced Samira/old Fiora ult -the broken CD Sai Q Generic running ability + repeat attack which is indeed unique sai W is so overly basic click throw Sai E pantheon Block/W Sai R Akali smoke/W minus the marking targets
Yeah i've noticed that in some specific champions like Beastmaster. It's bewildering to see some specific Heroes like Beastmaster that don't bother with their Q's.
@@Tumultulous oh I didn't know that, well that sucks but it is what it is then, as long as you're able to enjoy the game.. btw I love your content, it remind me a lot when I first started
@@timir2327 thanks for that info, I did stream sniper tumu but only once we were playing 8vs8 and was more playing with him, but I hope the stream sniper get karma
Ah yes, The 200 years hero of Dota
By the way I PLAN to count this as part of the All Hero Challenge. I just decided the "All Hero Challenge" probably isn't as alluring to include in the video names? Helps cut the title shorter
RIP Chen
I agree
@@Tifauve92 What about him?
True, but you should make "dota all hero challenge" playlist tho
You are really entertaining to watch, not like other league players shittalking and not learning, good luck with your dota experience !
@@ragberkotobuki41 Hahaha xD I appreciate it! I only wish to have fun!
Most league player can't even dota and failed so bad yet still shit talk and say league is easier compare to dota, look at price pool, it speak for itself...
Kez is also a strong pusher. Deso, daedalus and moonshard plus falcon rush towers get demolish
@@astra7479 oooooooh I better get to recording!
@@Tumultulous current build is rushing diffusal blade
@@ExploringFaithinJesusChrist Every Pos 1 Kez on Protracker is going Battlefury after power treads. Mid there is still a ton of different builds but the Pos 1 build seems pretty settled.
Comparing Kez's invis to Akali's seems a little strange, since the only real connection, apart from being invisible, are the smoke particles. The main draw of Akali's is that she can repeatedly go invisible while in the area, this is functionally more similar to Twitch's invis, where there's a visual effect and you go invis and get speedy.
So the funny thing with Kez is he apparently had the lowest day 1 winrate in dota 2 history (might have been in a specific bracket, this is just hearsay and I don't know the details). The Aphelios comparison is somewhat apt, since both appear daunting at first but end up being more approachable than you think (seriously, aphelios is not as hard to pick up as he seems since you don't NEED to know all the intricacies to get by) while also having a lot of complexity for those looking to master them. That being said, I think Kez is going to be far above Aphelios in terms of skill ceiling, especially with his aghs. Although you can get by camping on Katana there is so much more you can theoretically do with effective weapon switching, while a lot of the higher skill aspects of Aphelios seems to be just gun rotation.
Will be interesting to see where the meta lands with Kez in a month or so though. My initial reaction was thinking he'd be a carry who sometimes went mid, but after seeing him in mid I'm now leaning more towards a mid that sometimes goes carry.
Tiny Clarification, I wasn't meaning that the invisibility is similar, just the fact it's a smokescreen effect. I was just moreso describing it in a way that helps me memorize it.
Luckily he was waaay simpler than remembering Aphelios' combo guns, all i've really saw from aphelios in my history of playing since he's been out is just chakram is the weapon you wanna combine everything with LOL xD I totally agree with Kez being way more above aphelios as far as complexity (really they're both fine to memorize if you just play a game or two of them it's just on paper it looks like a lot) kez has more kit while aphelios technically only really has 3 buttons to remember xD
Yeah! I totally can't wait to see what people do for Kez, but for ME I wanna try a bunch of stuff, like maybe doing a seige build with sai Q or something. play him as a maybe pseudo split pusher
@@TumultulousI wanna see siege build haha Falcon Rush + Deso and Butterfly/Assault Cuirass.
Dude you learned a lot.
Couldn't have done it without everyone's help! The DOTA community has been very kind to me
If that's a lot of skills for you, I wonder what you'll say when you see invoker.
@@einjarhen7959 I just mean compared to the average hero. But yeah i cant wait to play him! Heard Hwei was made in his image
Please work on diction or pre-record the part where you read spell descriptions. No BM. Gl in the future.
These are cut from stream not pre-recorded
I don't think you need Tango and branches at the start of Turbo; your courier can fly you regen in under 10 seconds, so get as much damage as you can to gain an advantage on LH.
@@XoLiTlz I do it for build habits for regular games
I'm the 1000th subscriber😉
Congrats! Glad to have you! *locks up the prison gate*
Wtf under 30 hrs!? i dont believe it!
You bought Aghanims scepter when you already had it haha. Alchemist gave you a free one several minutes before that. Remember it glows in your hud
@@GearDiego23 I think now its more or less barely 50?
@@GearDiego23 I actually had no clue alchemist could do that xD I mustve forgot about it after the alchemist video
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Kez seemed like a bit much when reading him, but none of his abilities are too strong. It's just that he does a little bit of everything, but none of them as well as those that specialize. It's really fun watching people learn him.
Yeah he really feels like a jack of all trades type of character
Thought he was gonna be yone/yasuo but honestly half his kit is new to Dota and the other half is abilities from other heroes. Didn’t feel like league abilities at all. Even the parry isn’t like firoa cause you can move and block multiple attacks and not like jax cause it’s only in front of you.
@@13YoJest13 Not completely league for sure. But a lot of his kit is definitely reminiscent. But hey there's so many abilities out there its kinda like voices. So many some are bound to be similar.
Katana Q is like Yone Q dash minus the repeat
Kat W is like Akshan hookshot but for melee
E is unique
Ult is more fairy balanced Samira/old Fiora ult -the broken CD
Sai Q Generic running ability + repeat attack which is indeed unique
sai W is so overly basic click throw
Sai E pantheon Block/W
Sai R Akali smoke/W minus the marking targets
@@13YoJest13 im just drawing comparisons as his kit on paper LOOKS complicated. But there are so many league simularities to learn him easy
unlike leauge champion you dont have to use all of his abilities to make him good its just an option of how to play him
Yeah i've noticed that in some specific champions like Beastmaster. It's bewildering to see some specific Heroes like Beastmaster that don't bother with their Q's.
Using most of his abilities is better. And you would be griefing if you never changed them.
His attack range with the melee attack extender is ridiculous.
Huh. That sounds like a fun thing to screw around with
And then worms for lunch?
sir, CDR its CoolDown REDUCTION. You are trying to say Cool Down... and thats it. You dont need the R
@@GearDiego23 Chillllll
What’s your problem 😂
Please stop covering minimap with your persona, it kinda ruin the watching experience
@@asyhraf6304 No. Literally any and every streamer will do that to prevent screen poaching
Poaching?
@@Tumultulous oh I didn't know that, well that sucks but it is what it is then, as long as you're able to enjoy the game.. btw I love your content, it remind me a lot when I first started
@@Unknown-rs6wdIt's also called "stream-sniping".
@@timir2327 thanks for that info, I did stream sniper tumu but only once we were playing 8vs8 and was more playing with him, but I hope the stream sniper get karma