💯We always love hearing your wisdom and experiences. I never thought about how violent those animal sacrifices were until I heard your youthful experience. Thanks also for listing those scripture references at the end. I love how those ancient Hebrew scriptures are so often pointing to Jesus.
Thanks brother Joss. I am an ex-JW for 55 years; being active and regular all of those years in Bethel, in the congregation as a ministerial servant for 12 years and an elder for 14. Recently, a group of quack elders took it upon themselves to judge me as a "sinner" for something the scriptures speak nothing about. They became like those described at Romans 14: 2-12; 1 Corinth. 4: 3-6;, 1 Tim. 5: 21, and James 4: 11,12; setting themselves up as judges over a matter not explicitly discussed in the scriptures. I remember one elder quoting 1 Sam. 15: 22; which was the ONLY scriptural reference they made in the entire discussion on Zoom teleconference; (during Covid mania). Turned out it was a "judicial meeting" in disguise and he blurts out suddenly, "you are no longer one of Jehovah's Witnesses"! "To obey is better than sacrifice", was what he said to me; as I was a regular active publisher back in 2021 and was obeying Christ's command at Matthew 28: 19-20 every week. But after many months of research in the scriptures and the elder's manual; I discovered that THAT SCRIPTURAL TEXT ACTUALLY BETTER APPLIED TO THEM! THEY WERE MAKING SACRIFICES FOR THE GOVERNING BODY AND THE WRITERS OF THEIR "SHEPHERD THE FLOCK" BOOK; WHILE DISOBEYING THE ABOVE SCRIPTURAL COUNSEL AND DISOBEYING THE LAWS AND PRINCIPLES OF THE CHRIST! !! THEIR HEAD OF THE CONGREGATION WHOM THEY OWE AN ACCOUNTING!!--(Hebrews 13: 17,....Luke 6: 36, 37;.....Matt. 9: 10-13 And the hypocrisy is evident in EVERY JW broadcast talk by the governing body or whoever is lecturing that day. "DO AS WE SAY, BUT NOT AS WE DO!"
@@JossGoodall What a shame to see this organization infiltrated by REAL apostates, after many decades of peace and overall spiritual unity when we were growing up, eh brother? Little did I know that the corruption and arrogance had already started when they removed Ray Franz from the GB in 1980; when I was serving at HQ in Brooklyn, NY. But in the last 15 years or so, this "setting themselves up as gods in God's temple" has become more evident. (2 Thess. 2: 4) What irritates me so much is that they have no HUMILITY; when such was a paramount quality Jesus taught and exposed the Pharisees over. (Matt. 23: 2-12; particularly verse 12) They think that their organization; which they've placed God's name on; is immune to corruption and apostasy at the top levels! But because they have become blinded by this supposition they FORGET the words of the apostle Paul at Acts 20: 29, 30: "I know that after my going away oppresive wolves will enter in AMONG YOU, and not treat the flock with tenderness. And FROM AMONG YOU YOURSELVES, men will arise and speak twisted things to draw away the disciples after them."
"SACRIFICES FOR THE GOVERNING BODY" and sadly we preached faith in those men in the Corporation, not the good news of the Christ! Gal 2:6 "But as for the highly esteemed-whatever they were makes no difference to me-those leaders added nothing to me."
My dearest brother Joss, how wonderful that you are "sharing" spiritual "truths" like this to others. Thank you so much,this made me think of a few words I heard recently!!! A religious person does what they are told A Spiritual person does what is right There is no doubt in my mind which one of these two "types" Jesus was 😊 I look very much forward to many future presentations. Much Christian Love my friend ❤️
To add my own thoughts on the topic. I believe that, the animal sacrifices were required as part of the Law (Leviticus 16). As they prefigured Christ and forgiveness of sin (Romans 3:25). However, the sacrifices God hated, were especially hypocritical ones. Ones done by unrepentant people, who simply thought all God wanted was sacrifices for the sake of sacrifices, and not understanding that they were a provision of covering sin; life for life. They become a den of violent robbers, because without their true repentance and dedication to God, and living in sin, the animal sacrifices became worthless, and therefore, they were just seen as thieves and murderers in God's eyes, as they became bloodthirsty and failed to understand the meaning behind the sacrifice. As such the sacrifices become disgusting, and the same as the murder of men. God never truly 'desired' sacrifices, as that's not what animals were made for, even though, the Law of Moses commanded such to take place. Just as likewise, there is a deeper message, that God never 'really' wanted or planned for his Son to die for us like he did... yet provided him anyway out of necessity. And as such, is my view toward the animals.
I will be covering the Levitical sacrifices in another video. What the Word of God is teaching me is to understand the Mind of Christ. I have progressively learned and I hope this will become evident as we go along Thank you
Yes, Yahweh original plan went astray. But I do see that if we offer a sacrifice today with hate in our hearts for our brother and sisters, how different are we from the first century Scribes and pharisees? Can I ask please, is the Proselyte of Yah, the same organisation as the Beroean Pickets?
@@Phoebe-b3m Beorean Pickets isn't an "organisation" really (many don't like the connotation of that term), just a gathering of like minded Christians. My own name is not an organisation either, just a personal nickname or pen-name in my work :) But I attend BP meetings often and am acquainted with the other brothers and sisters here.
Jos Goodall, Joel Christe….these are real spiritual heavy weights ….Jos is my favorite interview. Eric’s wife does a good little talk also introducing the sister in Europe. It seems all of us of about 30 years and more are leaving right about the same time. Coincidence? We’re are not angry, fornicating, rule breaking rebels. No. We are humble enough to realize and not shut our eyes to multiple evils-despicable investments in Pfizer,,,lockead martin…and other nefarious investments of the GB. But the worst is hiding the scriptural knowledge! ,! They knew for decades that many of the teachings of 1914…great crowd and other sheep was wrong! They actually knew! Yes, they did. Why would they not share the enlightenment?…Might it be it could undermine their unscriptural authority structure….and their positions specifically? I do not think this is coincidence that many sincere longtime pillars of faith in this organization are leaving. Conscience…..YeHoVaH our father is calling us to the real Christ, our brother and leader. He knows those who belong to him. It may be in time, that when the rest get a big shock that is coming…and it will come, ..they will see and get confidence that long time servants have proceeded them. May the mercy and love of our Lord Jesus continue to shine upon the true holy ones and the future ones to join with us to.
Thankyou brother 🙏 Joss for the evident deep research and dive we will be making in order to discern the mind of Christ. Anxiously awaiting the continuation.
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So happy to listen to brother Joss. Always appreciate his thoughts, with a gentleness of character.
Thank you Joss, your charming, humble, knowledge of Scripture draws us into wanting to follow along and understand the Mind of Christ ❤serena
Thank you Brother Joss, really appreciated listening to you ❤.
💯We always love hearing your wisdom and experiences. I never thought about how violent those animal sacrifices were until I heard your youthful experience. Thanks also for listing those scripture references at the end. I love how those ancient Hebrew scriptures are so often pointing to Jesus.
It’s always a pleasure to hear your thoughts bro Joss, can’t wait for part II
Thank you very much Joss. I cannot wait for your following lecture. God bless and keep well. Greetings from South Africa.
Thanks brother Joss. I am an ex-JW for 55 years; being active and regular all of those years in Bethel, in the congregation as a ministerial servant for 12 years and an elder for 14. Recently, a group of quack elders took it upon themselves to judge me as a "sinner" for something the scriptures speak nothing about. They became like those described at Romans 14: 2-12; 1 Corinth. 4: 3-6;, 1 Tim. 5: 21, and James 4: 11,12; setting themselves up as judges over a matter not explicitly discussed in the scriptures.
I remember one elder quoting 1 Sam. 15: 22; which was the ONLY scriptural reference they made in the entire discussion on Zoom teleconference; (during Covid mania). Turned out it was a "judicial meeting" in disguise and he blurts out suddenly, "you are no longer one of Jehovah's Witnesses"! "To obey is better than sacrifice", was what he said to me; as I was a regular active publisher back in 2021 and was obeying Christ's command at Matthew 28: 19-20 every week.
But after many months of research in the scriptures and the elder's manual; I discovered that THAT SCRIPTURAL TEXT ACTUALLY BETTER APPLIED TO THEM! THEY WERE MAKING SACRIFICES FOR THE GOVERNING BODY AND THE WRITERS OF THEIR "SHEPHERD THE FLOCK" BOOK; WHILE DISOBEYING THE ABOVE SCRIPTURAL COUNSEL AND DISOBEYING THE LAWS AND PRINCIPLES OF THE CHRIST! !! THEIR HEAD OF THE CONGREGATION WHOM THEY OWE AN ACCOUNTING!!--(Hebrews 13: 17,....Luke 6: 36, 37;.....Matt. 9: 10-13
And the hypocrisy is evident in EVERY JW broadcast talk by the governing body or whoever is lecturing that day. "DO AS WE SAY, BUT NOT AS WE DO!"
It is the presumptuous attitude of these ones who see themselves as Samuel. From the GB down to the local congregations..
@@JossGoodall What a shame to see this organization infiltrated by REAL apostates, after many decades of peace and overall spiritual unity when we were growing up, eh brother? Little did I know that the corruption and arrogance had already started when they removed Ray Franz from the GB in 1980; when I was serving at HQ in Brooklyn, NY. But in the last 15 years or so, this "setting themselves up as gods in God's temple" has become more evident. (2 Thess. 2: 4)
What irritates me so much is that they have no HUMILITY; when such was a paramount quality Jesus taught and exposed the Pharisees over. (Matt. 23: 2-12; particularly verse 12) They think that their organization; which they've placed God's name on; is immune to corruption and apostasy at the top levels! But because they have become blinded by this supposition they FORGET the words of the apostle Paul at Acts 20: 29, 30: "I know that after my going away oppresive wolves will enter in AMONG YOU, and not treat the flock with tenderness. And FROM AMONG YOU YOURSELVES, men will arise and speak twisted things to draw away the disciples after them."
"SACRIFICES FOR THE GOVERNING BODY" and sadly we preached faith in those men in the Corporation, not the good news of the Christ! Gal 2:6 "But as for the highly esteemed-whatever they were makes no difference to me-those leaders added nothing to me."
@@JossGoodall - Ah! So you are talking about JW's. GOTTA!!!
Danke, freue mich auf die nächsten Videos. ❤ Grüße aus Deutschland ❤
I really enjoyed your presentation. I often wonder what the writers meant so this really helped me!
My dearest brother Joss, how wonderful that you are "sharing" spiritual "truths" like this to others. Thank you so much,this made me think of a few words I heard recently!!!
A religious person does what they are told
A Spiritual person does what is right
There is no doubt in my mind which one of these two "types" Jesus was 😊
I look very much forward to many future presentations.
Much Christian Love my friend ❤️
Thank you
Thank you Joss for your insight on the mind of Christ, really love the way you explain it, looking forward to the next parts 🙏
Loved it Joss great job.
To add my own thoughts on the topic. I believe that, the animal sacrifices were required as part of the Law (Leviticus 16). As they prefigured Christ and forgiveness of sin (Romans 3:25). However, the sacrifices God hated, were especially hypocritical ones. Ones done by unrepentant people, who simply thought all God wanted was sacrifices for the sake of sacrifices, and not understanding that they were a provision of covering sin; life for life.
They become a den of violent robbers, because without their true repentance and dedication to God, and living in sin, the animal sacrifices became worthless, and therefore, they were just seen as thieves and murderers in God's eyes, as they became bloodthirsty and failed to understand the meaning behind the sacrifice. As such the sacrifices become disgusting, and the same as the murder of men.
God never truly 'desired' sacrifices, as that's not what animals were made for, even though, the Law of Moses commanded such to take place. Just as likewise, there is a deeper message, that God never 'really' wanted or planned for his Son to die for us like he did... yet provided him anyway out of necessity. And as such, is my view toward the animals.
You just reminded me of the difference in sacrifices made by Cain and Able. (Rogerdodger)
I will be covering the Levitical sacrifices in another video. What the Word of God is teaching me is to understand the Mind of Christ.
I have progressively learned and I hope this will become evident as we go along
Thank you
Yes, Yahweh original plan went astray. But I do see that if we offer a sacrifice today with hate in our hearts for our brother and sisters, how different are we from the first century Scribes and pharisees? Can I ask please, is the Proselyte of Yah, the same organisation as the Beroean Pickets?
@@Phoebe-b3m Beorean Pickets isn't an "organisation" really (many don't like the connotation of that term), just a gathering of like minded Christians.
My own name is not an organisation either, just a personal nickname or pen-name in my work :)
But I attend BP meetings often and am acquainted with the other brothers and sisters here.
@@ProselyteofYah - 2 hours ago I did reply to your comment but it has been deleted. Why are comments deleted?
Jos Goodall, Joel Christe….these are real spiritual heavy weights ….Jos is my favorite interview. Eric’s wife does a good little talk also introducing the sister in Europe. It seems all of us of about 30 years and more are leaving right about the same time. Coincidence? We’re are not angry, fornicating, rule breaking rebels. No. We are humble enough to realize and not shut our eyes to multiple evils-despicable investments in Pfizer,,,lockead martin…and other nefarious investments of the GB. But the worst is hiding the scriptural knowledge! ,! They knew for decades that many of the teachings of 1914…great crowd and other sheep was wrong! They actually knew! Yes, they did. Why would they not share the enlightenment?…Might it be it could undermine their unscriptural authority structure….and their positions specifically? I do not think this is coincidence that many sincere longtime pillars of faith in this organization are leaving. Conscience…..YeHoVaH our father is calling us to the real Christ, our brother and leader. He knows those who belong to him. It may be in time, that when the rest get a big shock that is coming…and it will come, ..they will see and get confidence that long time servants have proceeded them. May the mercy and love of our Lord Jesus continue to shine upon the true holy ones and the future ones to join with us to.
When I was young I was known for only being good at math. An example is 75 + 7 = 82.
Yes😢
Thankyou brother 🙏 Joss for the evident deep research and dive we will be making in order to discern the mind of Christ. Anxiously awaiting the continuation.
@@aiercooledengine That's exactly what I meant to say