EA Sports WRC Review │ This Is The Truth - Deal With It ☕
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- I review EA Sports WRC and let you know if it's worth getting and what's good and what's bad about this title. If you are fed up with the flood of anodyne, non-critical tripe surrounding this game, then you will probably enjoy this video that I tailor-made for intellectually high-class tea drinkers and people able to look at video games in a somewhat critical manor.
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Great video. Are we really going to sit here and pretend this has a anything on WRC Generations? Generations is dog walking this game. All the bullying from 2.0 fans all of this time. That smug, “ you’ll see how it’s really done” attitude all of this time, for this?
The honesty of Gamermuscle is why I always wait for his reviews. Feeling the same thing about the game.
I'm feeling the complete opposite 😅
Yea, he seem to be one of the most fair reviewers out there. Obviously you will not always agree with him, but I tend to have similar opinions and views as him.
@@bernardoberner4 How much did EA pay you to be this dishonest : ) : ) : )
I was running RBR on triple screens with head tracking a Decade ago?! geez, time flies. Loved the physics maps that were attached to the textures, you could have everything from small ripples to big braking bumps, all defined by a text file linked to a texture =P
I don't think RBR has proper triple screen though does it? It's stretched like in DR2.0.
@@goodlookinouthomie1757 You need mods to be able to play it like that.
100 % agree on the stages lacking character
That completely static dashboard looks ridiculous 😂😂
The first honest review I’ve seen of this game. Thank You!
You are, of course, right about everything GM. The one great thing about the game is it's £40. That papers over a lot of cracks for me. BUT ...
Things that annoy me - many sections of landscapes look like they're from a 15 year old game - a hillside with trees looking like they're a placeholder rough cut and paste first attempt they forgot to go back and finish. The over exposure of the roads as seen from inside the car is staggeringly bad. Why is there no option where you could drive any stage at different times of the day instead of the time trial midday fixed option when the stark lighting shows up the shoddy graphics in places?
I don't get a real sense of place from any of the tracks, there are not enough random visual elements on stages as there would be in real life - it all seems be to a formula, like the stages were procedurally generated by a non creative AI.
I do enjoy the game somewhat, but all the time I'm thinking about the sub-par handling, the "unfinished" graphics in some stages and the poor optimisation.
Please Codemasters can you finish the game soon and patch the hell out of it, you could so easily have had the best rally game ever on your hands, you still can with a little polish, care and professionalism.
Fully agree with you.
Mexico looks horrific while Chile is stunning.
Very mixed bag graphically.
Obviously framerate issues abound but I love the locations and I'm enjoying the career.
It absolutely feels like it needed 6 more months though.
I'm sure when the patches come all will be well.
I'm addicted to it though.
I don't always agree with you, GM, but this time we are in complete agreement. It looks worse, plays worse, and performs worse than DR2.0, and is quite frankly a disappointment.
Also what has been highlighted to me through other WRC reviews from the "simfluencer" populous, is that they appear to be more interested in keeping those pre-release keys flowing rather than actually doing their job and telling us the truth.
Yeah, noticed that too, other channels blatantly lie straight to our face .. Probably paid to say good things! I unsubed from many channels.. Why would anyone waste his time listening to scammers and liars who want to manipulate you!
100%
Double 100%
@@iyadkamhiyeh527i did unsub as well, as Lawrence was crying a lot when i wrote that this game is trash, and he was payed 😂 fck them 😂
About the stages in game, for example in the Portuguese rally the stages ingame are not the real rally stages, they dont even have the Fafe stage with the jump in the end. if it is a Licenced WRC game i can't imagine the reason they did not use the real stages.... even generation was spot on in this
its rumoured that stage was made for dirt rally 3 before they got the wrc licence. hence they couldnt use the 'official' stage, but chose a real road nearby instead. but all the other stages were made after obtaining the licence and therefore are based on the real stages.
they didnt do a very good job though, real or not they all look so boring and repetitive.
ive seen what feels like thousands of reviews. all mindlessly praising the game, ignoring the flaws you can even see clearly just watching gameplay let alone actually being the one playing it.
its good to see someone do an honest review that points out all the same things i have issues with.
Spot on review. I was exactly having the same feeling. Its like you said, we got no other new rally game, so we buy it anyway. The driving is fun, but it could have been so much better.
No we don't buy it anyway, if you keep buying garbage games, you help the devs keep lowering quality
@@iyadkamhiyeh527It's far from garbage.
Just needs patches for framerate and graphics.
@@iyadkamhiyeh527 it isn't that bad, I bought it and enjoyed it, if it didn't have DRM I would have pirated it
Agree with you on the inconsistent stage quality, Dirt Rally 2 stages have more thought put into them, comparing the New Zealand stages. WRC NZ stages all feel the same even within a single stage it gets repetitive.
'thought'...? They're all real stages, both DR2.0 and WRC. There is no 'thought', it's pure mapping. Yes, DR2.0 has more detailed stages, but they did not look at all like the actual location. Colour grading was all off especially. NZ is one of the poorer locations in EA WRC, passable... but feels rushed.
You're having a laugh otherwise though, the EA WRC stages are 100x better than Dirt Rally boring flat stages. We had so few locations at launch, then just got remasters. Mexico, Portugal, Chile, Indonesia, Kenya, Italy, Corsica... all great. Snow locations are great. There are a few underwhelming ones like NZ, Estonia, Croatia. None of them are BAD, they're all real stages but need more stage dressing and foliage/tree detail.
@martsum398 The road mapping and elevation data might be "real" but I have driven through some of these stages as I live in New Zealand and some stages only 40mins away. DR2 matches up much closer, WRC didn't match up, the visuals look way off for NZ roads, also the way the car feels on the gravel, DR2 feels closer to what I have experienced. I'm still enjoying the game Kenya is a blast plus a bunch of other countries but to say the stages are 100x better that did make me giggle.
@@JallyTee I live in NZ too, and I think both DR2.0 and WRC don't really feel or look like NZ at all. WRC NZ seems rushed quite rushed and lacking detail, seems super wide roads too.
WTF CODIES WTF! NO TELEMETRY EVEN AND SHADER COMP. For a company been in the game industry as long as Codemasters ie micromachines I can't wrap my head around it....... why!?!
Like I know there sheer variety of CPU and GPUs combos are hard to cater for, BUT, do you remember a time when game devs used to release games that actually worked?
no
@@AndrewPeddie well I do.
best review so far
it aligns perfectly with my thoughts of the game
My biggest gripe is that the stages are just boring. Like, every once in a while you'll go through a small town or something, and it's like cool, but then you go back to the barren wastelands that is Codemaster stage design. The attention to detail just isn't there. There is no character to these stages and the immersion factor is low. The level of detail at @20:37 for that section of the Japan stage is how the whole game should have been. So just like the AI, the quality consistency is all over the place. I honestly had the feeling this would be state of the game pre launch when I saw the price tag. Not even a full price game tells me they didn't even have much hope in it or that theyre gonna rely on microtransactions in the future.
Edit: I posted this comment right before you got to the stage design and yes, I agree lmao
Totally agree, stutter fest (Thanks UE4) and very strange physics. Shame really as the tracks are great. Hopefully a patch or 2 can polish it up, but for now i'll stick to dr2.
It's UE5. And no stutters here.
its unreal engine 4, and there are absolutely stutters@@Ze-Ace
@@socks2441 just googled. Says UE5
interesting. it had been claimed a long time ago it was unreal engine 4. but i just looked into it and now there are places suggesting unreal engine 5. i suspect they are wrong and it is ue4, but cant be sure. so you might be right.@@Ze-Ace
@socks2441 yeah idk says ue5. I had stutters at first but no issues now. Also in the discord codies out up a post saying once the oath is ready there will be preshader comp to fix with stage stutters
I held out absolutely zero hope for this series. RBR is all I need honestly, its so perfect. and I only came to RBR after being stubbornly resistant for years!
my goodness the graphics are quite flat and dull too
I do agree the tracks look artificial.There is a huge difference between track and non track. And that they don't look like the location they are supposed to.
I am really disappointed by 1) the lack of innovation for the rallying. Yes, we get a car builder that seems awesome, but the races feel really dated. No random events, no unexpected failures, animals crossing (kenya is a waste for that!), super boring co pilot...
2) How can they mess up difficulty in a rally game so often??? WRC 10 was terrible, V-rally 4 the same, and this one the same :/
The game feels sped up. It's like you're diving at 1.25x all of the time
The footage is definitely sped up. I'm not sure why he doesn't mention it.
All the games you mentioned had plenty years to update and stuff dirt rally 2.0 its not what we started with back then ill give it time and im having a blast playing it
On the career WHY they didn't lay out the week's possible events in an actual grid, like a calendar, is baffling.
The current ui for the weeks is so cumbersome to use
Maybe a great rally game will be produced sometime
Yeah, when EA is not involved
Love you honesty and fun comedy vibe, great review 👍
I agree with almost all the points here, finally a truly unbiased review. I just don't agree with the force feedback bit, it's so vague and muted that it's not very helpful or realistic feeling, at least in my experience. The tracks are varied but feel kinda empty and barren. Regarding the driving physics, I think it improved over DR2 but still far from realistic and the handbrake reactions are just plain weird. RBR is still the rally sim king, even after 20 years.
I really love your pure honesty, highly appreciated 👍👍👍 ❤❤❤ . Finally someone who hast the guts to tell the true. Me too: I always couldn't understand why some "reviewers" on youtube have hyped DR2 over DR1 over the last years. For me DR1 has always and will be always superior over DR2 . Dirt Rally 1 from 2015 is probably the best rally title Codemasters has spawned up to now - and RBR/Rallysimfans will be the king of today further on 😄.
All the best !!!
Finally an honest review.
No it's "true review" I was one of if the first simracing channel titling things as "honest review" mostly as a joke because it's a stupid title....
Fast forward 7 years and everyone is doing it , obvously copying me because I'm so sexy.
So now it's "true review" and we will see how long it takes for people to copy my genius again.
@@GamerMuscleVideos Hah, either way - thank you so much for this! Really appreciate it!!
Spot on review, same issues on console except I've not had any crashes. Quite a lot of screen tearing as well. Hopefully they'll patch it along the way. Somewhere in here is a good game I think.
With EA in charge, hoping is accurate because there is probably 50% chance a thing will be fixed.
You're right i should be outside and not watching a 30minute review but I've been trying to watch as many reviews as possible to make sure that I actually think it's mediocre and that I've just been brainwashed into thinking it's amazing. The lack of rally games in the last years has proven why i found it to be so amazing but when it comes to black on white you're right, it's mediocre except for the sound.
When pessimism turns into realty. I was so hoping to be wrong for once.
Hey man! You working on mods still?
@@SleepyPantsSimRacing looks like I'm gonna need AES keys for EA WRC lol
@GabenHood sorry for my ignorance but what are Aes keys?
@@SleepyPantsSimRacing a key to a lock on the 3D models in Unreal Engine games. Its how I got Bathurst out of ACC before giving the files to Reboot team.
@@GabenHood ahhh I see lok
I'm just a simple older guy from East Texas and my friend you need to be adding a shot of moonshine to your tea, do this and the game is a 9 out of 10 stars. So put on your cowboy hat add a stiff shot of shine to your tea and enjoy my friend.
Sadly I'm already cognitively impaired and it didn't help :(
Ok so another fundamentally broken hit and run cash grab from EA, with no real hope of meaningful patches.
unpopular opinion, DR2.0 stages were abysmal, bland and soulless... but the graphical fidelity and effects pulled it through. this has better stages than DR2.0, but far worse stages than WRC Generations. Kt racing nailed stages, codemasters with all their money and prowess and even with this license cant seem to pull a decent one out of their ass. and now, ea sports wrc has the most flat, boring, blurry graphics i've seen in a racing game in 10 years and its very obvious how bad these stages suck. yes the game stutters, but that can be patched in, my problem is that the game is fundamentally worse than the last 4 rally games i've played in every single possible way. EA crunch, and deadlines fucked this game. Hopefully they afford codemasters the time they need to pull this one through, because as of right now... it's FUCKING EMBARRASSING. 2024 is a fucking month away.
I'd say Dr1 and 2 still generally have more convincing stages than this, visually, but not in size but Dr1 is basically 10yrs old...
And agree kt Wrc nailed the details I think I was one of the few channels really pumped by how nice the stages looked.
I love detailed off road tracks that u get in kt Wrc, RBR mods AC mods.
@@GamerMuscleVideos Just curious, did you try our Gabiria-Legazpi stage in RBR?
I agree. On PS5 it looks quite soft and blurry. Road surfaces and materials seem to be lacking detail, maybe it is bump mapping or an anisotropic filtering issue, but they look bland. It seems the internal rendering resolution is low. Some assets look very low poly and generally it has a lack of polish. This, combined with poor performance is bizarre. The actual handing, FFB, and driving can be quite fun, but as someone with a full rig, with dashboards, wind, and transducers, having no UDP is a big miss. Having no support for Moza wheels is utterly bizarre. The audio is excellent, but on the whole it feels like either the devs don’t have enough experience with Unreal engine to optimise it properly, or it has been rushed out. Very disappointing and in several ways it does feel like a side or downgrade from previous titles. I also really enjoyed rallycross in DR 2.0, so it is sad not to see that.
General feeling of the graphics in my opinion is:
overall view feel more lively. It is rough around the edges still but i believe it will get better with updates.
That first b-roll .. that track .. is that the same place that Hammond crashed that really expensive prototype car that time?
i agree with everything. With dirt 2 running 170fps and looking better than wrc running 77fps........i mean that is bad.
Your driving style suits well to game's steering wheel animation : 90 degre to the left, 90 degree to the right...
So far I've been enjoying the physics, but I know that I must avoid rear heavy and/or RWD cars like the plague. I really do hope they sort this out because I feel like it's really close to being a very fun and intuitive drive IMHO.
Another thing this game is lacking is attention to detail. Stages feel a bit boring, setups/tyre choices are very limited in choices, the in car cluster displays normal engine temperature while the UI says it's overheating, the livery editor is lackluster, the career in general is badly designed in both UI and gameplay loop, and so on.
I love your honest reviews.....to bad codemasters got taken by the dark lorde.......no vr support at launch was enough for me to stay away.....be nice if they modded these new stages for DR2 for the sim racers.
yeah, i know codemasters has their flaws. but i am certain the game wouldnt be in quite such a sad state if ea wasnt now in charge.
I don't think the popular racing games out there launched with VR support.
I've got over 1000 hours in Dirt Rally 2.0 so have a bit of a different perspective. I started playing DR2 when it was mostly finished development so it was much more mature than WRC. You're completely right about the performance issues, probably my biggest gripe with the game so far. It should run better than it does, though I've found as I play more there's less stutters for whatever reason.
The AI is another point where it's a big step back. I'm playing on a controller which I'm not used to as I currently don't have the space for a rig so I'm much slower than I would be on a wheel, yet I'm smoking the AI by a ridiculous amount. DR2 really had the AI in a better spot. 100 AI was very quick, made few mistakes, but was ultimately beatable as long as you drove perfectly. WRC AI is way slower and less consistent. Its a bit disappointing because the single player campaign itself is a lot more complex and I find myself actually wanting to play it. Hopefully this is something they can tweak after some feedback.
I can't really comment on the physics much yet as I'm on a completely different input device. The foundation feels good for the most part however. The handbrake is miles ahead of the previous WRC entries unrealistic behaviour where it would automatically make the car do a 180.
The graphics are a bit mixed for me. Some moments it looks like a shot straight out of a WRC broadcast yet at other times looks worse than DR2. By default the brightness is too high and some stages are really overexposed. DR2 had a similar issue with some stages like Sweden and Greece.
The stages themselves I'm actually really happy with. They feel much more immersive than DR2. The roadside assets look much better. The degradation system is better too, it feels like the ruts are right about where an actual driver would go vs DR2 where they were obviously put there by the level designer. Some of the posts are really solid and the bushes.
The damage feels more forgiving in the non hardcore mode, though the visual effects of damage are improved. I haven't clocked enough hours in hardcore to get a good feeling for it. The game does punish you in slightly different ways. As you mentioned there's a few less hidden logs on the roadside. Thankfully they've added a cut penalty system and the car noticeably slows down when in the weeds.
The tires are improved from DR2 where soft could be run in basically every situation outside an extreme club setup with 12 long stages and no services. Though its missing the ability to choose what tires you bring as spares and ability to choose the compound per wheel.
The clubs system, where most long term players end up paying the majority of their hours, has had some improvements. They added a really cool feature in Racenet where you can view the replays of your run and other players and see some telemetry. You can also do more from the game itself like setup the championship vs having to do it on the website.
I am missing the daily, weekly and monthly events however. Moments is supposed to be a replacement but it doesn't have the same feel as you get multiple attempts. The beauty of the daily events was you had one shot at a stage vs everyone so the stakes felt higher vs moments which is basically a themed time trial.
Overall if you're new to rally games I'd say wait a few months and buy it sometime next year when things have been fixed up. If you loved DR2 this will feel fresh thanks to all the new stages and the massive car selection, but only pick it up now if you can look past the lack of polish.
The handbrake in kt wrc games wrc10 etc, can be set on your clutch pedal, and be analog, and pretty good really, progressive, you can even adjust the input in settings as u please.
The road side assets might be a bit better in some cases as u said, but its much more important to have fluid fps.
And, to have detailed road surface physically, short abrupt dips, bumps, grooves, etc.
I agree with gm that it looks too leveled roads in this, making stages much less interesting, fun, challenging.
Cheers
I always thought dr2 had a wierd feeling to the cars that i cant get over. Recently i saw a video about the handling, where they broke it down to that the cars rotate around the center of the car no matter the speed or surface driven on. Wich in a real car doesnt happen, it rotates around a point outside of the rear of the car. unless you are in a slide (over/under rotation). It might be the same in this game.
A real car will rotate from the steering axis. Every time.
@@jimbo992 Cars rotate around the rear axle normally. Unless you're transferring weight to the front at speed and turning in a loose surface, then you get the rear to slide and the pivot point "moves" forward.
@@emptylyles physics doesn’t work like that.
@@emptylyles You’re 💯right (anybody who doesn’t believe it, please search "Tech Explained: Ackermann Steering Geometry") but these cars (and all Codemasters rally cars since CMR 1) seem to pivot at the center (unless the handbrake is applied). Another way of saying it is: the tires don’t have individual slip angles - there’s only one slip angle, and that’s the angle of the car as a whole (unless handbraking). It’s like you’re carving turns in a speedboat. This may be acceptable if you’re on snow or gravel, but on tarmac it’s bizarre.
@@raffriff42 no he’s not. In what situation, other than rear steer, would a car ever rotate from the back? 😂. Even breaking rear traction (power sliding or hand braking for example), the car will only rotate on the steering axis following deliberate or external influence, otherwise the car will simply still go straight ahead.
I was suspicious when every review was being positive and the only negative thing they would mention is the stutter problem which is a very safe criticism. Btw I bet they will probably add Rallycross as a DLC later on.
Good on you for bringing up that Dirt 'edge track accommodation effect', pretty much been let down by the stage design in every Dirt title and this seems no different.
That’s crazy bc this one has the best collection of stages of any dirt game ever.
the audio is good. i think its lacking a bit of gravel audio hitting the underside of the car and getting caught up in the wheel wells etc though, as far as i can tell they did that slightly better in previous dirt rally games. its also hard to beat phill mills's performance as a co driver. he really seemed to be reacting to the situaions with the way he read his notes. these new co drivers are good, but there is no emotion in their voices.
i agree, the audio is great but i miss Phil.
Yeah man, Xbox has the same stutters and yes It does look blurry … like if you’re in the cockpit and you’re looking in your back mirror - you can see original rbr there
Agree. Looks blurry on console
Best review I’ve watched. Seems they had a solid foundation but didn’t go the extra mile, or even reach the finish line in terms of code performance and stability.
Got the game about 1 month ago, and had 0 stuttering or performance problems. I enjoy it very much, and like the handling better then in dr 2.0. Still RBR is the better sim, but wrc is the better game. (My System: 7800x3d, 32gb ram, rtx 4080)
Honestly based on everything you said, even for a hardcore rally game fan, it isn’t worth a buy. Why would you buy something to that is worse than what you already have just because it is new? This mentality is part of why we can’t have nice things anymore.
I agree
Because with rally if you have new locations even if they are not the best it can still be fun to play through.
Like a lower quality pool table or lower quality bowling ring or dar board and darts. They might be worse than older or just better tables locations but could still be fun enough to use for X entry fee.
@@GamerMuscleVideos Yeah I understand you can have fun with things either way. If you have fun with it, I'm glad if you paid for it so it wasn't a total waste. But I think as consumers, we need to have some restraint as a whole so that we can show the companies producing these products that if they put out an unfinished product or a product that isn't any better than one they already sold us, we won't buy it.
Spot on as usually GM..I agree with everything but I have one hope..if they going to keep this title and just add dlc for next years as they ve done for dr2.0 then I hope they ll fix everything..if not then this game is doomed
i dont think they will fix anything. not with leaderboards etc already in place. they cant change physics etc without resetting them each time. this seems more targeted to a casual audience and i dont believe its released as early access? but yeah, i know games actually trying to be sims DO fix physics and keep working on the game, even if that means continually resetting leaderboards etc. ams2 is a good example of that. i wish codemasters would do the same, as this game needs a lot more work.
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Yeah i agree, the single player campaign is actually much worse than dirt rally 2 or WRC 10, its basically no point to it at all. Also the driving its self is a step down i feel from dirt rally 2, its just easier now while still being unrealistic. Also even on the hardest setting its easy to pull out minute long leads on a single long stage. They needed to have better dynamic opponent times based on your skill.
Its a wasted opportunity if they just spent some time makeing a good single player experience the game would have been very good, as it is now it doesn't really give you a reason too want to play it after the first 5 hours.
Dude i could not put into words the way you did i just dont feel connected to the cars at all and the stages are the worst , this game is not good i preordered and waited for this .? Dirt 1 was better .anyway thanks for like the only real review dude .
im glad im not the only person who thought it felt super weird
G'Day GM!! I see you're using some Moza gear. Did you do a review on their stuff? I did a search and didn't see it. Cheers!
Got my copy on release day, played it 30mins and then sent it back.
I remember the adrenaline rush when beating the rally school track on RBR back in the day. Never again had that feeling in any other game…
WRC is boringly fun
I remeber the first moderately fast corner I took in the rally school lesson stage. One of the most exciting feelings I have ever experienced in a video game. It was my first rally sim ever, I couldn't believe a game could have such incredible physics. Was a similar feeling to my driving license test where I had to drive a manual car on ice and gravel, it was such a blast.
Sadly, I never experienced that feeling in another rally game again.
The career is pretty trash, I just pick the event I want to do for each week and ignore max or whatever the name of the sponsors name is. I would just do the standard rally mode but literally the first rally Monti Carlos runs like absolute dog water (known issue) and needs to be fixed
Generally agree with the everything said. I bought it, i dont like it, ill keep it on the HD and try it again in a couple of months i think. DR2 is just better for me.
You know its a game made for console when you can't setup your cockpitview, it feels unfinished, from the driving physics to the ffb, to the stages, to the surface, to the performance, to graphics and the overbright look, it lacks everywhere. I agree, they could make the game a lot better with the right fixes and patches, but its EA/Codemasters, enough of that Copium.
Time to revisit this one pal. And loosen up the rear springs and dampers. Default setups are too grippy in the rear end so it starts with snap oversteer.
This game is miles better than Kylotonn's effort. No more listening to hairdryers and driving hovercrafts.
This game is trying to be Dirt Rally 3.0 and WRC 12 at the same time and that's where the problem is to begin with, I don't think that's possible to ever work. One game is more sim/simcade (DR) and one game is more arcade (WRC) and EA WRC is trying to please both worlds. They took the physics from DR 2.0 and toned them down for the controller boys, which basically feels like they added grip wherever they could : on asphalt, on gravel, .... even with all assist off. And that makes it all feel not hot, not cold. On some stages it feels like they have a rail-track and you are just the conductor steering to stay on that rail they want you to drive on. For instance in Sweden or even on gravel stages, just a little off to the side, slighty touching the boundaries of the road which in many cases just look to be a little pile of snow or dirt , you immediately flip over or spin out several times. Of course, with the game being 40-45 Bucks, you don't feel ripped off and can still have fun in it But if this game would be 100-120 Bucks, like some other racing titles out there, i am sure the reviews would be different
I realize game aesthetics aren't the most important thing in the sim racing world, but seriously, how to you regress in 7 years with a sequel that graphically underperforms its predecessor? Maybe this is the problem with committing to a WRC contract. In another universe, Codemaster left to its own devices would had this game slow cooking for another year. I have no hope of running it on my older gear, which handles DR 2 without breaking a sweat. Refunded. I'll try it again once they're done using their customers as beta testers.
yeah, i can only imagine how amazing dirt rally 3 could have been
27:00 - Why is the windscreen made of cling film?! 😂 That's one weird and distracting effect.
Honestly, at this point in time, I have not had any issues with ea wrc with performance. I play on high settings on the rx6650 xt, I3 10100f and 16gb ram
You're honest and what seems not compromise review and opinion of this game is much appreciated. Thank you.
If they dont fix the game, they won't have any returning customers. Everyone should learn their lesson. It's on EA and Codemasters to fix it ASAP.
Wow! A reviewer giving a game, he judged to be average, 5/10! I'm utterly shocked by this display of common sense. It became standard to rate "mediocre" products 7/10.
The distant forest on stage presented since 26:46 minutes looks like from a 2010 game.
Thanks, i will wait for a Steam sale to get this game.
It is uncanny. But I think for every single point about the handling is the exact feedback I'm getting with about 15 hours of play time.
The snap back to grip is sooo extremely aggressive. That like said in the video, it makes me feel like the car doesn't want me to power drift. Yes you can rotate the car, but with default tuning most of the time when I think I'm getting into a slide, it recovers before I can even realize it and then next thing I know that counter steer I was in the process of doing was total overkill and I'm just moving off the racing line.
Same with the handbrake. I feel like I'd have to hold it through quarter of the hairpin to get the rotation I want without fear of the snap back to grip popping up.
I did see a few comments of people claiming to have driven rally stages IRL, and they claim EA WRC is infact "more realistic" with it's handbrake and drifting physics than does RBR. Which really confused me as the only thing I've heard about RBR from sim racers is that it's the best there is physics wise. The person who said this went to say that they feel that in RBR you're constantly driving on wet grass, or with extremely old & worn tires.
I mean I was a bit shocked with RBR at first. But with 100 some hours of practice, I got the hang of it. You really need to load those front tires to get some good grip in turns. And the handbrake definitely doesn't require you to be yanking it on it too much, a quick jab is all you need.
But which is it? Is RBR going too far with it's grip physics, or is EA WRC too grippy? I mean both can't true.
Probably not a popular take. But at least with the suspension & weight transfer physics, I found the handling of WRCG to be more relatable to RBR than it was with DR2.0 & EA WRC. I was actually mad at the handbrake in WRCG at first, but when playing RBR I realized that maybe it was supposed to be like that.
About the stages, I along with what I could see, a vast majority of the player base completely disagree with ypu, I made a post about the topic on the WRC game subreddit and I couldn't find a single negative comment about the stages. Would be very odd that only the people on the Subreddit of the game enjoyed the stages.
The common opinion was that the stages on this game are the best in any rally game game ever, don't understand how you can think the lifeless stages in DR2 or even the good but in my view qjite a bit inferior stages in Gemerations, are better than this. But all power to you, very interesting that there're people that didn't like the stages, I really thought that wpuld be common ground.
But, for sure with feedback like yours, Codies will try to improve the stages even more
The grip is not smooth at all! And the handling is very unstable at high speeds. I prefer WRC 9 connectivity with the car.
Where is the comparison of variou DD wheels?
What a shame, going to wait another Year before getting WRC, WRC Generations was terrible, better to stick with DR2.0 and RBR
i refunded it. im fine with dirt rally 2.0 it holds up
I got it for 30 usd, I’m having a weird problem with my fanatec podium dd1 settings re-setting. Can anyone share the settings they use for DD base?
I play a lot of RBR and its amazing. This game is amazing too, because its first and foremost a game, not a dedicated sim. Also, I live 3km away from the Croatia stages, the road is spot on so IDK what you're talking about stages wise...
ComplainerMuscle strikes again ;)
comparison to dirt 2 would be great as i feel dirt 2 is one of the "better" games for rally
On previous Wrc titles the Ai times were inconsistent and unbalanced too. They probably just recycled their old code.
this was made by a different developer than previous wrc titles and hence do not have access to their old code.
@@socks2441 Part of obtaining the license is having access to the code of previous games I believe.
It is a sign that the game was rushed and not properly tested. And yes, most modern rally games fails to make consistent AI times.
I will tell you a great Hack for Life!
If you don't get hyped you will not be disappointed
Don’t worry, being an EA game they will fix it all in WRC 24 and sell the same game again. I think it’s par for the course now. New games that arrive finished are a thing of the past. 🤔
If we could get RBR ported to Xbox, that’d be cool. All I really care about is the physics and handling models. I don’t really care about the graphics so much. I would stress the realism for controlling the car over everything else. But, I understand that not all of the fan base is in the same thought process.
Well, he did very well touch on just how garbage the handling model is, with its strangely surreal straight line stability, to the over grippy tires and snap oversteer characteristics. Might as well just get Dirt Rally.
I’m worried now, is it as bad as dirt 4? That game you could only slide when on the brake and you had to be careful because it could spin you instantly. Dirt 4 felt terrible
Well I guess the single player got copied from Codies F1 series a bit. Also the sounds are good, but not as excelent as Dirt Rally 2.0. It's not as nice and raw as DR2 and to me many times sounds a bit muffled or supressed.
About the game modes, I think Rallycross could've come back or the super special stages like in Colin McRae Rally 2.0 and Colin McRae: Dirt and would be nice to see Pikes Peak and Hill climb to come back.
Also I wanna see a modern rally game, like DR2 with the system that Colin McRae Dirt 2 had, the opponent cars racing on the track real time and you can overtake them or even collide with them.
And would be nice to see other things like broken cars on the side of the road, deer and wild animals running across the road, the drons flying above like DR2, and even some things like when the car is rolling over the driver and the co-driver reacts to it like pulling thier hands close or putting thier hand on the roof, or the co-driver turning the pages of the pace notes, or when the cars door opens on the side the drivers closing it when it's possible, not just snapping back in place.
And I could list a few more stuff from some of the older Codemaster games.
Wow, this game looks like DayZ mod for Arma 2 in 2012. How did they missed so badly on the graphics? Also gameplay movement looks like you're just floating around and not like you driving a car with 4 wheels with suspension.
I have the same snap oversteer and magically snapping back in DR2, this is game-breaking design feature that forces me to play DR1 with physics mod or RBR...
i have never heard of a physics mod for dirt rally 1, how much does it change the game? i would love to go back to dirt rally 1, as it looks and performs even better in vr than dirt rally 2.0, but i do prefer the stock physics in dr 2.0, but only marginally.
@@socks2441 me too
@viktorianas
a link to this mod mod would be appreciated
I appreciate your "true review", but it is just another opinion. I'm really enjoying it. Only put ten hours in so far though.
Ive been playing the PS5 version. Stutters are distracting, There isn't a 120fps mode. Previous codemasters games had that feature. Another game rushed to market disappointing fans.
Accurate review, drifting is not doable much in dirt 1 or 2 either, from my experience, i found dirt 4 having better graphics, here the stages feels samey, except asphalt ones, played a bit of richard burns rally, the sheer feel of speed and super physics are still not there in any modern rally games, unreal, how can so many developers cannot achiever anything like that after decades?
you can avoid the crashing by giving someone else the wheel 👍👍😂😂
The Truth hurts! I think it’s worth the money purely to time trial Finland and Estonia in WRC2. PS5 version seems decent, haven’t noticed any stutter. As far as physics they are definitely “watered down”. Nowhere near RBR standards. Also the game is stupidly forgiving for driving mistakes which should total or at least badly damage the car. It just allows you to carry on unscathed. That annoys me but I’m a sim head. Whatever. I knew it wasn’t going to be a sim going in. It’s a “fun” rally game. Very far from perfect, but ok for £45. If it was £70 I’d be way more annoyed...
It's garbage. WRC Generations is waaaaay better
EA WRC is a massive disappointment. Looks worse than Dirt 2.0. Handling is ok...but the FFB on steering wheels are total trash. The physics feels extremely gimmicky and fake. WRC Generations is waaaaay better.
Cars feel weightless and no reaction from the suspension..
Aside from the performance and stuttering, the biggest problem for me is there is just too much tyre grip. In hairpins and tight turns the gravel feels like slightly slippy tarmac. You can break the rear end grip but it very aggressively regains grip again, there isn’t enough progression in the loss and re-acquisition of grip.
exactly. ironically its the equal but opposite problem dirt rally 2.0 had. i feel like the physics for that were designed for gravel then adapted for tarmac, and for this game they were designed for tarmac then adapted for gravel.
since the most exciting and differentiating thing about rally is sliding around on gravel, i will take the former over the latter anyday.
To add to that, the handbrake behavior is very strange. No pendulum effect, just like DR2 but even worst cuz of high grip levels.
they prob released the alpha handling on accident lmao
Hmmm... maybe learn to drive then??? Or maybe learn to tune a rally car to be aggressive and to oversteer and powerslide it??? You know... maybe in a realistic rally game you should drive realistically like a rally car should be driven???
Just saying... cause unlike every dumbass in this comment sections I do know how to drive a rally car and I do powerslide my car any time I want and it doesn't regain grip until I want it to... hmmm... maybe I'm special??? Oh wait... I know how to tune and fucking DRIVE the car to do all those things...
do the words THROTTLE MANAGEMENT and WHEEL MANAGEMENT in a hairpin turn mean ANYTHING to you???
people complain about everything and don't bother to think if they're doing things right or not... stupidity knows no boundaries in 2023...
@@socks2441 It's literally the same gravel physics as DR2, maybe with some slight tweaks to reduce grip in some scenarios. Go set Traxion's recommended FFB settings, and then tweak from there. The FFB is having a disproportionate impact on people's impression of the physics in WRC
Thank you. After 4 hours on a really high end system, I wondered why do many reviews portray a different (I.e. glowing) experience. Sound aside, and ignoring issues like stuttering that will get fixed, the design is dismal. I second all your observations. I would add that they picked “dusty tan” as the color of all road surfaces - tarmac or dirt or gravel, new or old road. In addition the environment feels like a 3D computer graphics model mated with a water color painting from the 1800’s. We have the haze that prevails everywhere and under almost all weather conditions and time of day. It took a while for the kinks to get worked out of WRCG, but other than for multi-player and sound, WRCG is far more immersive, fun, exciting, and detailed.
Spot on on the colours. So many different vibrant locations around nearly all continents and in minds of CodEmAsters they all have the same water paint dulled colours, exactly... Jeez it's depressing to find out Chile, Kenya, Greece and Indonesia all have the same ground and vegetation colours 😂
Yes, even just looking at videos, the tracks have a very different feel and look to them then the ones from Kylotonn. The tracks from Kyloton felt real, diverse, alive and just more pleasing. With this game, you can easily see the repitition of the assets. And with rally games, it's all about the tracks and their environments.
This review is bang on. I knew within 20 mins of messing around with the settings and trying to play. The problems ahead of me were not worth it and refunded. Not acceptable on release.
The best thing to come out of this game is that I’m playing Dirt Rally 2 again and loving it
😂 Good one
Jo me too... was running ea wrc for 1 hr than i refund and installed dr 2 again..
@@ItsMe-yg4yiyou just described exactly what I did
Im going to reinstall DR1 and keep y DR2...
eaWRC will be bought later when bugs ironed out
the physics are certainly better much more bumpy too. EA fucked up. geez im shocked
I think we should stop buying unfinished games, i tryed 5 times to play this game but everything is just terrible, the Ffb, the stearing, physics, grafics, performance. Not even Nvidia has a driver support for this game. The smart thing to do is wait for fixes and try later.
I run this game on 4090 and 7950x3d and still very choppy experience.
I didn't, i never get a game on release, dont just say it. 😉
I think one of the biggest shames is that the fantastic Kylotonn games and their brilliant stages have now just been forgotten and were ignored by so many of the racing playerbase at the time.
Yep. Once the kinks got worked out of generations, it is fantastic, and scales equally well to full rigs (motion, gforces, wind, dashes, triples, 4K). I wondered whether EA Rally meant I would have two rally games to play. Not at this point!
.. the kinks never got worked out of generations though?? I raised hell on twitter and reddit like many others regarding:
1. throttle bug (unresponsive and 0 throttle below 30-40% pedal/trigger actuation)
2. clutch does not actuate unless held for 1-2 seconds on controller
3. rain braking is BAD. rain stages look downright TERRIBLE (no transparency in rain, appears shiny/white)
4. boost bug, nuff said
5. disgraceful sound design ( engines/gravel effects)
6. Button mapping/audio settings reset (controller/wheel presets reset constantly too) ps5
Many Many people have complained about these issues and you know what they did? They pulled the plug on supporting the game after like a year of bullshit updates. The gameplay was fun, but all the bugs I ran into genuinely ruined my experience. I particularly enjoy time trial leaderboards which were unreliable at best given the bugs mentioned above. Lost allllll my hope in the devs of generations. wrc 23 is muchhhhhh better so far. @@netlawman2001
I totally agree… the stages in WRC Generations are just so much more fun and not monotonous. The handling model in WRC Generations might not be what some people would say is “realistic”, but you really felt like you were making the car dance around the bends… and the single player career mode was good and engaging too.
I also feel like we’ve lost out… it would’ve been better to keep Kyloton on the WRC licence, and then had Dirt Rally 3.0 (this game) as an alternative…
only 9 and 10 were fantastic rest were garbage.
@@RoqueMeister generations is fantastic. I have only ever used 10 and generations. I prefer G.
Totally agree with the snapness while drifting or handbraking. The surface of the stages are worse than DR 2.0 but better than WRC Generations, it should be like real surfaces according to John Amstrong. And I am also missing the random events, I wanna see DNF cars and all other stuff from DR 2.0. I'm having fun, but at the moment it needs a lot or patches. I believe the titel is launched sooner than it supposed to due license and contract with the WRC Promoter or something.
Yea, looks alright but I don't see a reason to buy this in its current state. Feels a bit soulless tbh, the sounds are amazing but thats about it.
I dont believe a word out of that dull looking Armstrong dude who gets paid to talk. Realistic 😂
The story of game development for a few years now. Boards setting ureasonable deadlines for a fast cash out and developers loosing their sanity to have a "playbable" game on the rushed realease date 😆