*When you have a situation with an unusually high level of employee turnaround, then this is usually indicative of poor management as opposed to repeated new employee failure. Just because someone is a great pilot, does not necessarily imply they are good managers of people. Having a short fuse isn't a measure of greatness, it's a measure of great stress.*
A simple question from Norway. How long do you think your management skills would have kept Buffalo in operations? Joe has his unique piloting skills, but it’s his managing skills that keep this company in business. I have no doubts
@@ketilneergard1468 Part of Joe's success lies in the simple fact he was the ONLY major air carier in the far North for many years. Joe's company provided a service none of the other regional air cariers in North America were willing to provide, since doing so was considered to be far too unprofitable in this particular market. In other words, Joe found a unique "Niche" market.
@@markjob6354 Finding this “Niche” is absolutely a management skill. It’s definitely not luck alone. To fly these airplanes can most skilled pilots do in normal conditions. But keep them operational is admirable! Time is running out.
If you are going to ask a lot of people, and want people to be enthusiastic and committed, the most stupid thing you can do is on day one, tell people they are not valued, that your employer expects you to fail, and that your first resort at this company is literally to reach for a piece of 2"x 4" to beat new employees with, rather than a carrot to try to fix a problem. In this situation, high employee turnover is not just an inevitable situation - it is a self inflicted injury. It is a direct result of a lazy, uncaring, brutal and stupid attitude towards employees. When you have bright people who are motivated enough to spend many tens of thousands of dollars of their own money to get themselves through flight school, then travel from often big cities with moderate climates, to live in a large country town that is an inhospitable icebox for about half the year, just to get the opportunity to fly specific aircraft - you already have someone with a lot of get up and go. A new self motivated employee, that if handled intelligently, will willingly move mountains for you. Why is it a mystery, that when you treat intelligent people with high self motivation, plus a skill set that is in demand by other employers, badly, they will get up and leave? If you want people to stick around and do their work with enthusiasm, you set people up to succeed rather than to fail, and treat people with consideration care, and kindness. It always staggers me when people who have enormous levels of qualifications and certifications in a field, turn around and act in ways that show absolutely zero levels of empathy and common sense, towards people they actually need to rely on to perform the roles that they do. Then complain when people stop putting up with it, the moment they get a better offer. Which was a bar that you actually set pretty low, by the way you behave towards them!
Daniel, i have the impression that a lot in this series just is scripted. There is no way a company can survive this way. The incredable unprofesional behaviour of the personel, lack of descent training, a general manager who interfere's with flight operation (even while still in the air)... No way.... a company like that would have been shut down long ago, even in de remote outskirts of Canada. Still i like to see those old aircraft.... but be resonable you can't run a commercial operation with those anymore.
I met an ex ''buffalo'' years ago in southern ONTARIO CANADA in a coffee shop ,and I asked him how JOE was to work for ? He told me OLD JOE is a genuine pain in the a.s.s. I quit watching after that . I din't think much of ''junior'' buffalo , at the time either .
Joe has the cheek to say 'you aren't a co-ordinated crew'. The whole point of CRM is that the crew works as one, make mistakes together and work through them together. Ancient behaviour that leads to First Officers flying under pressure and in fear of making mistakes, they might not have it in them to say something to Joe when he innevitably makes a mistake.
Joe is an unsafe instructor of pilots. That’s the reason Buffalo was shut down. Even when Joe agreed to step down Canada still had little faith that he wouldn’t be bullying pilots. No more Arnie, no more Kelly & no more Buffalo. The kid got out just in time.
12:19 What is her issue? How can she act like that toward an employee, especially a brand new one. "Im not even gonna ask his name he'll be gone like all the others right away", displaying a plank of wood saying "new guy beating paddle" like what? Yeah, its no wonder these employees dont stick around, who would? Its even more sad because here is the other dude who is being super nice to him, he literally is cleaning the nasty house to make him feel more welcome, then she comes in and throws that time and effort out the window.
Tyler is one good looking man. Buffalo seems like a pretty toxic place to work, especially around Joe and putting out a new guy beating paddle probably isn’t a smart move if you want people to stick around.
I got a job in Fort Mcmurray and was put in the company house where we had to pay monthly rent. The house was so bad I just left it and rented my own room somewhere else. I had no trouble getting enough other employees to come with me. It was so much better and a better atmosphere too. The company couldn’t tell us anything about ‘our’ house. They tried to funnel new guys to us without even asking, we firmly told them not to do that.
Probably been said, but Joe needs a serious attitude adjustment. Just because he's the boss, doesn't mean he can't be a human. Treat your employees right and you'll have them a long time. I read a comment once by a very successful business man. Paraphrased - if we hire people smaller than us, our company will be forever small. If we hire people better than us, we will become a business of giants.
@@BubbaBubbinski Well, I am old enough I retired a year ago, and no I never treated anyone the same. But I did work with some folks when I was young that were that demanding, and at times, unreasonable. Of course I have worked with some folks that were younger than me in higher leadership positions that had no people skills, were incompetent, and micromanagers because they had zero self confidence. Usually promoted to fill. quite or were riding someones coattails up the food chain.
When Joe said when you get there consider yourself the top of your class, and that he would get the 747 that was his way of saying that he was good and up there as far as being a pilot. Plus the fact that he didn't just say to get lost soon as he gave notice. It is cool to see though for sure, because I remember the episode when Joe got on him about flying right in the beginning and now he's going to fly 747's! That is cool! I know these episodes are actually pretty old but just now showing on TH-cam but hopefully all is well for him and he's rocking the queen of the sky in the 747!!
There is no way I would let anyone talk to me like that. The dude would be spitting his teeth out when he woke up. I've been with the same company now for 25 years because I do my job well and am amply rewarded, Even let's me have a channel here on TH-cam.
He might be spitting his teeth out and you might be in a gaol cell. Best just to talk to them, takes more guts then punching someone in the face and busting your knuckles up.
I think that Tyler will make a terrific pilot. I hope that Joe will just even out with him and work with him instead of consistently reprimanding him all the time. Somewhere there, there is even ground.
I feel sorry for Andrew, Cathay is now an airline with crappy working condition, mainly because of lousy management during covid. Hope he made it out of there as well!
I fly the 747 for Cathay. Andrew would have been better off staying where he was. We're losing about 50 pilots/month right now. It's a toxic job with endless cuts to pay and conditions.
Joe has not made the transition from bush pilot to the present day. It is quite common I think. In the old days, people ruled with fear- which- sometimes- is effective. However- it does not promote dedication- nor going the extra mile when the chips are down.
Joe puts pressure on a guy, by only letting him use a hanger for one day. Then when mistakes are made in trying to save time. He blames the guy. Joe is a poor excuse for a manager and should step a side. Joe is the biggest problem this airline has.
Why would a young pilot want to go to work for Buffalo and work one to two years hustling baggage and cargo in the hopes of someday getting the "privilege" of starting to train as a copilot when they can go to work for a major airline and start in the right seat. It makes no sense. And, Buffalo is shooting themselves in the foot by doing it. These are inexperienced pilots coming right out of school and, after a year or two out of the cockpit, they have lost everything they learned.
Broadcast TV has absolutely had its DAY! I am in Thailand watching this to cool down as the outside air temp is 35C + and RH dunno but you'd probably need 10,000 feet to get a paper airplane airborne. So great to watch this - thanks for doing it (all those flying and filming hours in the cold I bet the camera batteries had to be kept hot.) Visiting Buffalo is on my bucket list (top of) and flying somewhere else from there and back!!! If it gets ANY hotter here I am buying a deep freezer chest and watching this from a screen in the side in perfect NWT simulation !!
In 1977-78 I had the opportunity to buy 18 ex-New Zealand National Airways Corporation DC-3s with full certs. Plus a whole heap of spares. The total amount asked by the New Zealand Government was $30,000-NZD I was only 21 years old working as a Senior Aircraftsmen for Airwork (NZ) Ltd, and could not raise the full finance, for personal reasons. Biggest regret of my entire life. We had to remove the passenger seating and fit 44 gallon drum fuel tanks for the flight across to Zimbabwe where the went into service there. And I would work for Buffalo all day, all night, anytime of the year, for nothing. Just to have an occasional fly in one. So did someone do something that someday they will regret ? I could have been part of an Airline in New Zealand flying freight up and down the country far cheaper than any truck or train was doing it for, an Airline just like Buffalo Airways is. What I regret is instead of paying the deposit and raising the rest needed, I decided to get married instead. And lost what I did have, including what I should have had, when she took everything then divorced me 4 years later. So we all do things we really should not, if we stopped to think clearly about it. Joe deserves all the respect simply because he has fought all his life for the Aircraft, the staff, and the name of the Buffalo Airways Airline. I don't know of any other Airline that flys the best aircraft ever built, do you ?
Best comment here. Thanks for making the effort. Trust another Stephen P from NZ to make it. I'm in Dunedin. 14 years younger than you. I know airwork was in Wanganui but had Fletchers based in other places too. That was 35 odd years ago when I was at hamilton Airport at aeromotive, next to Robertsons. total respect for you ag guys.
@@stephenpenniket9976 Hi Stephen, yes the Fletchers were the mainstay of the Ag use in NZ until the front hopper 375 Braves came out later on. ( better chance of surviving a prang with the weight in front of you ) I was at the Christchurch Airport Branch of Airwork, where most of the airframe and overhauls were carried out. When the DC3's were taken out of service by NAC they re-branded and modernised their fleet. They parked the DC3's on the tarmac near our hangar until they found a buyer, and I spent many hours around them. When I was a kid I use to cycle out to Ferrymead Museum and sit for hours and hours in the cockpit of the old DC3 they had parked there, and my interest in aircraft started then. Now I am retired, and my flying interests involve the freedom of soaring like a bird ( for real ) flying one of my paragliders. And in the history of Aviation, the people, the planes, and the videos that other dedicated followers of flight make for all to see. There are a number of Hangars in New Zealand that have preserved the history of flying and Omaka at Blenheim is one of the best in the world. I even bought a RNZAF Transport Coach from their Blenheim Base, and turned it into a Motor-Home. The Woodburne Cafe across the road from Blenheim Airport have a complete Argosy parked in their carpark, the Cafe Owner bought it for the aluminum scrap value and they towed it across the road for him. You can go inside it and look around, and when you are passing it would be worth a visit. I understand it is the Argosy that the crew on the Wgtn-ChCh night flight saw the UFO's off Kaikoura from.
How can they hold on to quality people when the people that manage you have no quality aspects about them. A flight environment is always an environment with stress. It's imperative that the ground crew and the people that operate the office try to make the home environment is appealing as possible. The largest cost any business is resource management. It's common for owners and managers to be concerned about maintenance, passengers, and regulations. The fact is if you don't do everything possible to stop human resource attrition you're destined to either go broke or never get ahead. I speak as a professional and corporate pilot for 40 years. It is imperative that you run a professional flight environment.
Andrew is probably going to double his salary, and after a probationary year at a bigger airline, get another raise, then once he upgrades to captain, another big raise. Moreover he will only fly airplanes, no ramp work. Why would he stay at Buffalo?
Haha.. "Handling the Big jets" I got that book 25 years ago from my colegue, and than it already was way outdated. Andy seems to be a nice chap, to bad he's leaving.
I like this show and I love the old planes, but I wouldn't want to be an employee there. If I were employeed there, I would not give notice, I would just walk out to the new job.
Don’t forget that these videos are 12 years old! And that he is no longer involved in the operation of the airline! It’s now evolving to a modern airline with Beech 1900 and Boeing 737-300 cargo!
Ummm...Would YOU want to fly 75yr-old planes in temperatures that are waaay below zero degrees for the daytime high?? Oh, and that's Fahrenheit, NOT Celsius... Not me! I'd rather fly in the Bahamas, thankyouverymuch! Kudos to those that can handle that cold! I did my stint as a walking USPS mail carrier for 33 years. Once when delivering here, it was -19°F, and that was cold enough for me to be outside for 5+ hours!
I worked loading trucks at UPS in Canada in the dead of winter and lasted about a month at best. What a dreadful job. Sweating like mad in a t-shirt then freezing to death when you stop - a perfect way to get pneumonia and all for 18 bucks an hour. It was on par with slavery.
@@yengsabio5315 Lets see, for 2 engine turboprops there's the ATR-42 or 72, the De-havilland Q-400, the Airbus C-295M among others. For 4 engine turboprops the options are a little more limited. The Lockheed L-100 but it's out of production and will face the same problems eventually that the old piston bangers are facing now with spare parts drying up. The Airbus A-400M really would be the only option for a modern 4 engine turboprop cargo plane that has full support from the manufacturer. The Antonov AN-22 is technically an option but not really because of the war but i figured i'd toss it in for completeness.
If I'd been in charge, no darned film crew would get within sight of Buffalo Airways property! What they are asking is beyond any reasonable tolerance levels. Bless his heart, Joe is an old curmudgeon. I can relate to that, since I am one, too. Old curmudgeons should avoid managing people. I say that from experience. Some good times, but more bad times as an old curmudgeon trying to deal with people. I have sympathy for Joe, but you'd better know when to quit and give up the business to your son. He'd manage people better, perhaps, but would Buffalo Airways survive? That's the question.
Film crews pay good money for location access and prop/set piece rental. Since Joe is scratching to make ends meet, he can't afford not to take their business.
That is how it ends if Buffalo doesn't take være of its employees... And Buffalo has a good team under the roof, but are losing out since they can't keep people working long enough to climb... I think that will eventually be the end of Buffalo as a company as the years pass...
Many of apparently don't watch much to be judging how jo does things. Ya he's a ole school raw dog . But when you have high stakes on your hands on what it cost to run the airlines any "oops" that happens costs big bucks esp for a self made small outfit. You got to have some good respect for straight to the point raw dogs strick military style bosses ... That's how a true leader and boss works... They didn't get there by pandering to soft pampering their employees. I rather have a boss that don't do talk behind your back leaving you in the dark whether you did something wrong etc. He's straight forward to the point take it like an adult or go cry on someone's else's doorstep type of boss.
Transport Canada revoked buffalos air certificate for about 2 months a few years ago and the only way buffalo got the certificate back was for joe to sign a contract to step away from the day to day operations
@@lionbacker -- I can assure you that the way things have gotten in Canada in just the last few years with the ultra-left Liberal socialist government in power, there is no way in hell that Joe would be allowed to treat people like that anymore. I personally hate the liberal government but it's the one benefit of having them in power is that abuse like this would never be tolerated now.
@@msgrandma9737 no he didn't, but his mother did. She was born in 1924 and Joe was born about 1946 and to me he looks much older. I suspect he likes to booze.
Joe's Toughness in keeping a business afloat and demanding excellence in proficiency is required. Recognizing it in a collegial departure exchange with a faithful soon to be ex-employee is solid gold. Joe Mcbryan is a living legend in Aviation.
In Canada it's probably about 20 Canadian dollars an hour. Someone said the pilots make 44 and hour so I can't see the poor new sucks getting less than 20. Minimum in Canada is about 15
I have watched many of this program's episodes and I wonder how anyone would put up with this much bashing and abuse. I would probably be murdered and dumped out of the plane in flight due to something I said to one of the thugs in charge of the company.
We simply have less needs to fulfill to be content on our own. Cleanliness is not a primary need for most of us, it's a secondary/ancillary need that we tend to only when we've seen to everything else.
*When you have a situation with an unusually high level of employee turnaround, then this is usually indicative of poor management as opposed to repeated new employee failure. Just because someone is a great pilot, does not necessarily imply they are good managers of people. Having a short fuse isn't a measure of greatness, it's a measure of great stress.*
Absolutely. The ability to fly an aircraft does not qualify you to manage anything or anyone. It is a completely different skill set.
A simple question from Norway. How long do you think your management skills would have kept Buffalo in operations? Joe has his unique piloting skills, but it’s his managing skills that keep this company in business. I have no doubts
@@ketilneergard1468 Part of Joe's success lies in the simple fact he was the ONLY major air carier in the far North for many years. Joe's company provided a service none of the other regional air cariers in North America were willing to provide, since doing so was considered to be far too unprofitable in this particular market. In other words, Joe found a unique "Niche" market.
@@markjob6354 Finding this “Niche” is absolutely a management skill. It’s definitely not luck alone. To fly these airplanes can most skilled pilots do in normal conditions. But keep them operational is admirable! Time is running out.
that bold hurt my eyes
If you are going to ask a lot of people, and want people to be enthusiastic and committed, the most stupid thing you can do is on day one, tell people they are not valued, that your employer expects you to fail, and that your first resort at this company is literally to reach for a piece of 2"x 4" to beat new employees with, rather than a carrot to try to fix a problem. In this situation, high employee turnover is not just an inevitable situation - it is a self inflicted injury. It is a direct result of a lazy, uncaring, brutal and stupid attitude towards employees. When you have bright people who are motivated enough to spend many tens of thousands of dollars of their own money to get themselves through flight school, then travel from often big cities with moderate climates, to live in a large country town that is an inhospitable icebox for about half the year, just to get the opportunity to fly specific aircraft - you already have someone with a lot of get up and go. A new self motivated employee, that if handled intelligently, will willingly move mountains for you. Why is it a mystery, that when you treat intelligent people with high self motivation, plus a skill set that is in demand by other employers, badly, they will get up and leave? If you want people to stick around and do their work with enthusiasm, you set people up to succeed rather than to fail, and treat people with consideration care, and kindness. It always staggers me when people who have enormous levels of qualifications and certifications in a field, turn around and act in ways that show absolutely zero levels of empathy and common sense, towards people they actually need to rely on to perform the roles that they do. Then complain when people stop putting up with it, the moment they get a better offer. Which was a bar that you actually set pretty low, by the way you behave towards them!
Daniel, i have the impression that a lot in this series just is scripted.
There is no way a company can survive this way.
The incredable unprofesional behaviour of the personel, lack of descent training, a general manager who interfere's with flight operation (even while still in the air)...
No way.... a company like that would have been shut down long ago, even in de remote outskirts of Canada.
Still i like to see those old aircraft.... but be resonable you can't run a commercial operation with those anymore.
Totally agree with this....
@@pascalcoole2725 I think some of it is for drama but I feel like the environment is pretty close.
Joe put her on a pedestal at first and then exploited her and caused her to be disappointed.
I met an ex ''buffalo'' years ago in southern ONTARIO CANADA in a coffee shop ,and I asked him how JOE was to work for ? He told me OLD JOE is a genuine pain in the a.s.s. I quit watching after that . I din't think much of ''junior'' buffalo , at the time either .
Tyler is amazing pilot and he doesn't deserve that from Joe and I am glad he left and way to go Tyler
Joe has the cheek to say 'you aren't a co-ordinated crew'. The whole point of CRM is that the crew works as one, make mistakes together and work through them together. Ancient behaviour that leads to First Officers flying under pressure and in fear of making mistakes, they might not have it in them to say something to Joe when he innevitably makes a mistake.
“Abandons” Joe? I would say he escaped! Good for him
Joe is an unsafe instructor of pilots. That’s the reason Buffalo was shut down. Even when Joe agreed to step down Canada still had little faith that he wouldn’t be bullying pilots. No more Arnie, no more Kelly & no more Buffalo. The kid got out just in time.
Buffalo is still in business. TV drama.....
ahh yes.. my tuesday evening entertainment. love these!
12:19 What is her issue? How can she act like that toward an employee, especially a brand new one. "Im not even gonna ask his name he'll be gone like all the others right away", displaying a plank of wood saying "new guy beating paddle" like what? Yeah, its no wonder these employees dont stick around, who would? Its even more sad because here is the other dude who is being super nice to him, he literally is cleaning the nasty house to make him feel more welcome, then she comes in and throws that time and effort out the window.
Tyler is one good looking man.
Buffalo seems like a pretty toxic place to work, especially around Joe and putting out a new guy beating paddle probably isn’t a smart move if you want people to stick around.
Buffalo Joe is still stuck in the 40s You don’t just tell people they’re gonna be “outta here” in todays world
I got a job in Fort Mcmurray and was put in the company house where we had to pay monthly rent. The house was so bad I just left it and rented my own room somewhere else. I had no trouble getting enough other employees to come with me. It was so much better and a better atmosphere too. The company couldn’t tell us anything about ‘our’ house. They tried to funnel new guys to us without even asking, we firmly told them not to do that.
Probably been said, but Joe needs a serious attitude adjustment. Just because he's the boss, doesn't mean he can't be a human. Treat your employees right and you'll have them a long time. I read a comment once by a very successful business man. Paraphrased - if we hire people smaller than us, our company will be forever small. If we hire people better than us, we will become a business of giants.
Part of this is just the cultural difference across multiple generations.
@@timclaus8313 Joe isn't much older than I am. I never treated anyone, much less an employee the way he does. IMHO
@@BubbaBubbinski He certainly can be caustic, lol...
@@timclaus8313 😆
@@BubbaBubbinski Well, I am old enough I retired a year ago, and no I never treated anyone the same. But I did work with some folks when I was young that were that demanding, and at times, unreasonable. Of course I have worked with some folks that were younger than me in higher leadership positions that had no people skills, were incompetent, and micromanagers because they had zero self confidence. Usually promoted to fill. quite or were riding someones coattails up the food chain.
When Joe said when you get there consider yourself the top of your class, and that he would get the 747 that was his way of saying that he was good and up there as far as being a pilot. Plus the fact that he didn't just say to get lost soon as he gave notice. It is cool to see though for sure, because I remember the episode when Joe got on him about flying right in the beginning and now he's going to fly 747's! That is cool! I know these episodes are actually pretty old but just now showing on TH-cam but hopefully all is well for him and he's rocking the queen of the sky in the 747!!
There is no way I would let anyone talk to me like that. The dude would be spitting his teeth out when he woke up. I've been with the same company now for 25 years because I do my job well and am amply rewarded, Even let's me have a channel here on TH-cam.
He might be spitting his teeth out and you might be in a gaol cell. Best just to talk to them, takes more guts then punching someone in the face and busting your knuckles up.
I think that Tyler will make a terrific pilot. I hope that Joe will just even out with him and work with him instead of consistently reprimanding him all the time. Somewhere there, there is even ground.
Working environment in that company is like not existing !
I feel sorry for Andrew, Cathay is now an airline with crappy working condition, mainly because of lousy management during covid. Hope he made it out of there as well!
I flew on Cathay Pacific once and that was enough.
I fly the 747 for Cathay. Andrew would have been better off staying where he was. We're losing about 50 pilots/month right now. It's a toxic job with endless cuts to pay and conditions.
Joe has not made the transition from bush pilot to the present day. It is quite common I think. In the old days, people ruled with fear- which- sometimes- is effective. However- it does not promote dedication- nor going the extra mile when the chips are down.
Joe puts pressure on a guy, by only letting him use a hanger for one day. Then when mistakes are made in trying to save time. He blames the guy. Joe is a poor excuse for a manager and should step a side. Joe is the biggest problem this airline has.
Yeah...he's a BOZO
Why would a young pilot want to go to work for Buffalo and work one to two years hustling baggage and cargo in the hopes of someday getting the "privilege" of starting to train as a copilot when they can go to work for a major airline and start in the right seat. It makes no sense. And, Buffalo is shooting themselves in the foot by doing it. These are inexperienced pilots coming right out of school and, after a year or two out of the cockpit, they have lost everything they learned.
Excellent point. It does not make any sense hustling baggage etc losing your flight skills and valuable flight time.
Broadcast TV has absolutely had its DAY! I am in Thailand watching this to cool down as the outside air temp is 35C + and RH dunno but you'd probably need 10,000 feet to get a paper airplane airborne. So great to watch this - thanks for doing it (all those flying and filming hours in the cold I bet the camera batteries had to be kept hot.) Visiting Buffalo is on my bucket list (top of) and flying somewhere else from there and back!!! If it gets ANY hotter here I am buying a deep freezer chest and watching this from a screen in the side in perfect NWT simulation !!
ONE WORD SUMS THIS UP. JOE!!!
In 1977-78 I had the opportunity to buy 18 ex-New Zealand National Airways Corporation DC-3s with full certs.
Plus a whole heap of spares.
The total amount asked by the New Zealand Government was $30,000-NZD
I was only 21 years old working as a Senior Aircraftsmen for Airwork (NZ) Ltd, and could not raise the full finance, for personal reasons.
Biggest regret of my entire life.
We had to remove the passenger seating and fit 44 gallon drum fuel tanks for the flight across to Zimbabwe where the went into service there.
And I would work for Buffalo all day, all night, anytime of the year, for nothing.
Just to have an occasional fly in one.
So did someone do something that someday they will regret ?
I could have been part of an Airline in New Zealand flying freight up and down the country far cheaper than any truck or train was doing it for, an Airline just like Buffalo Airways is.
What I regret is instead of paying the deposit and raising the rest needed, I decided to get married instead.
And lost what I did have, including what I should have had, when she took everything then divorced me 4 years later.
So we all do things we really should not, if we stopped to think clearly about it.
Joe deserves all the respect simply because he has fought all his life for the Aircraft, the staff, and the name of the Buffalo Airways Airline.
I don't know of any other Airline that flys the best aircraft ever built, do you ?
Best comment here. Thanks for making the effort. Trust another Stephen P from NZ to make it. I'm in Dunedin. 14 years younger than you. I know airwork was in Wanganui but had Fletchers based in other places too. That was 35 odd years ago when I was at hamilton Airport at aeromotive, next to Robertsons. total respect for you ag guys.
@@stephenpenniket9976 Hi Stephen, yes the Fletchers were the mainstay of the Ag use in NZ until the front hopper 375 Braves came out later on.
( better chance of surviving a prang with the weight in front of you )
I was at the Christchurch Airport Branch of Airwork, where most of the airframe and overhauls were carried out.
When the DC3's were taken out of service by NAC they re-branded and modernised their fleet. They parked the DC3's on the tarmac near our hangar until they found a buyer, and I spent many hours around them.
When I was a kid I use to cycle out to Ferrymead Museum and sit for hours and hours in the cockpit of the old DC3 they had parked there, and my interest in aircraft started then.
Now I am retired, and my flying interests involve the freedom of soaring like a bird ( for real ) flying one of my paragliders.
And in the history of Aviation, the people, the planes, and the videos that other dedicated followers of flight make for all to see.
There are a number of Hangars in New Zealand that have preserved the history of flying and Omaka at Blenheim is one of the best in the world.
I even bought a RNZAF Transport Coach from their Blenheim Base, and turned it into a Motor-Home.
The Woodburne Cafe across the road from Blenheim Airport have a complete Argosy parked in their carpark, the Cafe Owner bought it for the aluminum scrap value and they towed it across the road for him.
You can go inside it and look around, and when you are passing it would be worth a visit.
I understand it is the Argosy that the crew on the Wgtn-ChCh night flight saw the UFO's off Kaikoura from.
would not work for a boss as rude as Joe.
Keep them coming!!!
The same behaviors that help him build a successful operation also become a handicap if he doesn’t’t evolve with the company
I retired from a compnay that was firm but respected their people, their moto was" our people are our greatest asset" and they meant it
When a member of the crew make everyone to quit is time to fire that man
Sums Joe right up .. all about himself
Seems like the revolving door has been in place there for quite some time
How can they hold on to quality people when the people that manage you have no quality aspects about them. A flight environment is always an environment with stress. It's imperative that the ground crew and the people that operate the office try to make the home environment is appealing as possible. The largest cost any business is resource management. It's common for owners and managers to be concerned about maintenance, passengers, and regulations. The fact is if you don't do everything possible to stop human resource attrition you're destined to either go broke or never get ahead. I speak as a professional and corporate pilot for 40 years. It is imperative that you run a professional flight environment.
Good luck to you Andrew wish you all the best hope I run into you one of these days at Café Pacific
Cafe Pacific is a great airline
Cathay Not Cafe
Andrew is probably going to double his salary, and after a probationary year at a bigger airline, get another raise, then once he upgrades to captain, another big raise. Moreover he will only fly airplanes, no ramp work. Why would he stay at Buffalo?
Joe was obviously hurt that Andrew didn’t ask HIM to be one of his two references!!
Haha.. "Handling the Big jets" I got that book 25 years ago from my colegue, and than it already was way outdated.
Andy seems to be a nice chap, to bad he's leaving.
Terrible CRM displayed by Joe the man's a danger to all who fly with him with that attitude.
When you start walking on the egg shells, it’s better to leave. Very toxic environment
Tyler is a stand up guy ! He's also hotter than hell.
Tyler are handsome
You can tell a guy must be a hunk when even straight guys have a man crush on him lol!
That Owner, Joe, seams like a major A-hole. Constant turnover is a big clue. And he should know that he has a symbolic relationship with his crew.
I think he was probably a drinker and had bad hangovers. He also clearly hated running the place so what a bad combination.
I like this show and I love the old planes, but I wouldn't want to be an employee there. If I were employeed there, I would not give notice, I would just walk out to the new job.
Don’t forget that these videos are 12 years old! And that he is no longer involved in the operation of the airline! It’s now evolving to a modern airline with Beech 1900 and Boeing 737-300 cargo!
Yeah, sad to not see the old birds as often but the business was doomed if they kept operating the way it was. The 737 will be enormous for them.
Ummm...Would YOU want to fly 75yr-old planes in temperatures that are waaay below zero degrees for the daytime high?? Oh, and that's Fahrenheit, NOT Celsius... Not me! I'd rather fly in the Bahamas, thankyouverymuch! Kudos to those that can handle that cold! I did my stint as a walking USPS mail carrier for 33 years. Once when delivering here, it was -19°F, and that was cold enough for me to be outside for 5+ hours!
I worked loading trucks at UPS in Canada in the dead of winter and lasted about a month at best. What a dreadful job. Sweating like mad in a t-shirt then freezing to death when you stop - a perfect way to get pneumonia and all for 18 bucks an hour. It was on par with slavery.
come on Buffalo, buy the new aircrafts
PROBLEMS SOLVED
I know not much about airplanes. What are the turboprop alternatives to the existing fleet at Buffalo Airways?
Buffalo just recently bought a 737 - and their DC4s are retired are up for sale on their website
@@yengsabio5315 Lets see, for 2 engine turboprops there's the ATR-42 or 72, the De-havilland Q-400, the Airbus C-295M among others. For 4 engine turboprops the options are a little more limited. The Lockheed L-100 but it's out of production and will face the same problems eventually that the old piston bangers are facing now with spare parts drying up. The Airbus A-400M really would be the only option for a modern 4 engine turboprop cargo plane that has full support from the manufacturer. The Antonov AN-22 is technically an option but not really because of the war but i figured i'd toss it in for completeness.
I'll take that back .. epic Joe
HAPPY TOWEL DAY FOLKS !
WOO.....
That o'l Jan Spirit!
When you have a boss like Joe than it's understandable that you have a huge turnover. I wouldn't be able to last long working for him.
“Wing tip flaps” and “tail-rudder”
If I'd been in charge, no darned film crew would get within sight of Buffalo Airways property! What they are asking is beyond any reasonable tolerance levels. Bless his heart, Joe is an old curmudgeon. I can relate to that, since I am one, too. Old curmudgeons should avoid managing people. I say that from experience. Some good times, but more bad times as an old curmudgeon trying to deal with people. I have sympathy for Joe, but you'd better know when to quit and give up the business to your son. He'd manage people better, perhaps, but would Buffalo Airways survive? That's the question.
Film crews pay good money for location access and prop/set piece rental. Since Joe is scratching to make ends meet, he can't afford not to take their business.
Delighted Andrew got the job with Cathy Pacific so he could get the hell out of buffalo Airways
Joe was so out of line with Gord. Gord was frank and professional with Joe and it just shows how sleezy Joe is.
Good one...
How did they get an annual done on this airplane in an afternoon.
ABANDONS? really? is that what you call taking a better job these days?
The Cesna gets no love 😥
Its called Passive-Aggressive. I still like Joe, but he should be a pilot full time and leave the managing to somebody else.
best series on YT
Whats the latest abt Buffalo ? Is it shut down ? Or still operational with vantage fleet ?
They're still operating, minus the passenger flights. They actually bought a 737 last year and they're just finishing up the regulatory hurdles.
your new employees only lasting for days or even hours is not something you should be proud of really...
New Guy Beating Paddle.. aka Board of Education.
That is how it ends if Buffalo doesn't take være of its employees... And Buffalo has a good team under the roof, but are losing out since they can't keep people working long enough to climb... I think that will eventually be the end of Buffalo as a company as the years pass...
Not the way to act in the cockpit of a plane …. Very unprofessional
Many of apparently don't watch much to be judging how jo does things. Ya he's a ole school raw dog . But when you have high stakes on your hands on what it cost to run the airlines any "oops" that happens costs big bucks esp for a self made small outfit. You got to have some good respect for straight to the point raw dogs strick military style bosses ... That's how a true leader and boss works... They didn't get there by pandering to soft pampering their employees. I rather have a boss that don't do talk behind your back leaving you in the dark whether you did something wrong etc. He's straight forward to the point take it like an adult or go cry on someone's else's doorstep type of boss.
Man management skills? Yeah, right.
Why the change in the helio 31:34 to a Bell JetRanger
Its the worst management I have seen in a long time!
amazing
In fact Joe got fired as a boss multiple times.
Transport Canada revoked buffalos air certificate for about 2 months a few years ago and the only way buffalo got the certificate back was for joe to sign a contract to step away from the day to day operations
@@lionbacker -- I can assure you that the way things have gotten in Canada in just the last few years with the ultra-left Liberal socialist government in power, there is no way in hell that Joe would be allowed to treat people like that anymore. I personally hate the liberal government but it's the one benefit of having them in power is that abuse like this would never be tolerated now.
Anyone know the lyrics to the opening song?
Love this show
Love this story
Isn't it up to the planes Captain to be responsible for checking that the plane is loaded properly?
Son is a fast food addict
What j urk jo is, you don’t create that sort of atmosphere in the cockpit
Cathy is the worst employee ever. Good thing dad owns the company. She would be Unemployed quickly anywhere else.
Cathay Pacific 3rd largest airline in the world, lol
Yeah, this is clearly not a recent episode
Maybe someone should face plant Joe, off camera, and tell him to grow up. He's not perfect.
Cathay Pacific was 3rd largest airline in the world by what measure?
Dang Joe you are AWFUL to your employees no wonder they all quit, not surprising at all Buffalo shut down
Ahhhh. The early pilot years. Live in a sh*thole and your social life is down the tubes.
But wait! You have a cool job.
How old is this now? 10 years?
@@msgrandma9737 lol no
@@msgrandma9737 no he didn't, but his mother did. She was born in 1924 and Joe was born about 1946 and to me he looks much older. I suspect he likes to booze.
Son needs to stop eating so much
Whoaaaa boys! Id love to be flying scheds with Joe!!!
Joe's Toughness in keeping a business afloat
and demanding excellence in proficiency is required.
Recognizing it in a collegial
departure exchange with a faithful soon to be ex-employee is solid gold.
Joe Mcbryan is a living legend in Aviation.
Andrew's a punk.
Evertime someone comes into the spotlight joe gets jealous and makes there life hell Humbleness makes a good boss not araguants
3:25 thats a 737 lol not a jumbo jet
Don’t forget this is a show for the entertainment value, making it sensational even pathetically cringeworthy is what it’s all about!
nah I think Joe's abuse is the real deal
I m really curious how much money these newcomers get paid.
6
Minimum wage
In Canada it's probably about 20 Canadian dollars an hour. Someone said the pilots make 44 and hour so I can't see the poor new sucks getting less than 20. Minimum in Canada is about 15
Poor leader to not want a person to advance. Joe is where Joe needs to be! In a small company.
Joe wouldent hurt to be little more nice to people who work their help him it's like he has problem with the kid
Comments are to stupid, this is not for aviators - maybe kids at primary school...
You dont owe your job anything keep your mouth shut untill you are ready to leave then tell them done.
The son ears too much
Eats too much
Fat
The son is a troll
I have watched many of this program's episodes and I wonder how anyone would put up with this much bashing and abuse. I would probably be murdered and dumped out of the plane in flight due to something I said to one of the thugs in charge of the company.
Lol there a lot of salt in the comments and probably from people who have little work ethic
Words are not violent. If you can't handle efficient direct speech and instructions, go elsewhere .
lol! It's called verbal abuse and it's not even tolerated in Canada anymore. Not even in a Northern craphole like the NW territories
Joe is a horrible boss. I wouldn't put up with his s... for 5 min. he's an old abusive a.....who likes to bully around people
Everybody has the right to be grumpy now and again. But Buffalo Joe abuses the privilege.
14000 killer meteors? What is that?...Try 8700 miles...a lot easier...
How can men be so damn filthy when it comes to living alone... 😝😣
We simply have less needs to fulfill to be content on our own. Cleanliness is not a primary need for most of us, it's a secondary/ancillary need that we tend to only when we've seen to everything else.
They are great pilots because of the way Joe pushes them and he expects the same from himself.
nope