Green Day are such an influential band. I know some people won’t agree they are punk but they have influenced so many bands over the last 35 years. Their spin on punk/pop punk was so fresh and unique. They had the anger of the misfits, the loudness of the pistols, the attitude of the stones and the melodic tendencies of the Beatles. I don’t think anyone before really had a similar sound (though of course there were some similarities) and no-one has really emulated that sound which is why I believe they created their own version of punk/pop punk.
@@MoeSyzlack-o9y I am actually in the process of creating my own personal list of the Top 50 Pop-Punk Albums of All Time, and clearly “Dookie” will be on the list. I feel like it was the first album to truly meld punk rock with pop sensibilities, and bring this music to the masses. Just my opinion.
"The 2000s saw the rise of pop punk bands like Simple Plan... all of this led to a lot of backlash, and a lot of people calling those bands sellouts. And that never made any sense to me because if you're selling out, you're changing your core beliefs to appeal to others... And it's not like Simple Plan or Good Charlotte were playing basement shows and singing about politics." Minor correction here. Simple Plan was, indeed, playing basement shows and singing about politics. The singer and the drummer were part of a melodic hardcore band called Reset. When they re-branded as Simple Plan, they explicitly were trying to "sell out." I love Simple Plan, and I have no problem with them selling out. But it was indeed their goal to stop singing about government censorship, environmental destruction, etc.
Selling out allowed Pierre Bouvier and Chuck Comeau (the singer and drummer, respectively) to do music for the rest of their lives and raise families, etc. They wouldn't have been able to do that as Reset.
@@ianjolieshow I have my doubts. I feel like selling out is more what Eminem has done in recent years. Attacking what he used to believe in and really wagging his finger at what made his career so successful. Simple Plan sounds like they just wanted to make money and they evolved their sound to do that. Doesn't sound like they turned their back on these beliefs. I don't know though.
Ayyy Dookie (and Weezer blue...and Smashing Pumpkins Siamese Dream) were the first three albums I ever personally owned. had em on cassette. this was my foundation to becoming a pre-historic sweater-vest emo several years later. Good vid as always, dude! 👊👊👊
This is such a well thought out video! 👏🏻 You hit the nail on the head with the nuance of what it means to be “punk rock” or a “punk rock band.” From the anti-establishment themes to catchy songs about love, there so much to admire about this depth of this genre. But I also appreciate how so many punk bands talk about living your life and experiencing joy, without the shackles of the powers that be taking that away from you, being an act of rebellion in and of itself. I’m hoping we see Fugazi and Op Ivy reunite at Riot Fest (or elsewhere) this year, but that may be a pipe dream 😂. An awesome video overall!! As an aside, have you heard of UK band Bad Nerves? So much good music coming out these days!
There seems to be this weird thing when people bring up "real" punk, they seem to think it starts with black flag era hardcore and think that's all there is, hating on all pop punk. Popiness has always been there too. Though I can never accept 5 seconds of summer like some tried at the time, into the club
*Punkrock was the (new) Renaissance of rockNroll. It's objectively the Ramones. Not the 1st album but the 2nd & especially 3rd Rocket to russia! The influence of the Beach Boys & Jan&Dean is the apex of what was pivotal to that sound. The Queers picked up where they left off. Also the greatly underrated Surf Punks. The album My Beach.* 🇺🇲🎼
You've read Sellout by Dan Ozzi, right? If not not it really touches on Green Day and Jawbreaker and others. Great book for genre fans (others of course, because I'm sure you've read it)😉
80's yo you forgot Shoegaze in which those heavy and melodic loud distortions before it became dreampop. Shoegaze greatly influenced grunge, britpop and indies. Shoegaze was like the mainstream hardcore. Rage against the machine was not a punk band but they were against the government. They're funk/rap metal band and were heavily influenced by punk.
"Politics" & " fashion" is what ruined punkrock. There were very few legitimate bands: the Ramones, Dickies, Fear, the Queers, Angry Samoans, Meatmen, Dwarves, Smut Peddlers, Skrewdriver etc.
Green Day are such an influential band. I know some people won’t agree they are punk but they have influenced so many bands over the last 35 years. Their spin on punk/pop punk was so fresh and unique. They had the anger of the misfits, the loudness of the pistols, the attitude of the stones and the melodic tendencies of the Beatles. I don’t think anyone before really had a similar sound (though of course there were some similarities) and no-one has really emulated that sound which is why I believe they created their own version of punk/pop punk.
@@MoeSyzlack-o9y I am actually in the process of creating my own personal list of the Top 50 Pop-Punk Albums of All Time, and clearly “Dookie” will be on the list. I feel like it was the first album to truly meld punk rock with pop sensibilities, and bring this music to the masses.
Just my opinion.
@ yeah it 100 percent was. It’s only my fifth favourite Green Day album but it’s still one of my favourite albums of all time
Pop punk
Banner Pilot! I love every band you've mentioned. You never disappoint!
Love Banner Pilot! Thanks!
@@NeverNormal They are great and I would love a new album.
April 23, 1976!!!! In my opinion, it started here. I was 14 years old and it changed EVERYTHING!
Thanks for watching!
22:56 Yo! The Lippies mentioned! They’re so good and don’t nearly get talked about enough
100%, thanks for watching!
"The 2000s saw the rise of pop punk bands like Simple Plan... all of this led to a lot of backlash, and a lot of people calling those bands sellouts. And that never made any sense to me because if you're selling out, you're changing your core beliefs to appeal to others... And it's not like Simple Plan or Good Charlotte were playing basement shows and singing about politics."
Minor correction here. Simple Plan was, indeed, playing basement shows and singing about politics. The singer and the drummer were part of a melodic hardcore band called Reset. When they re-branded as Simple Plan, they explicitly were trying to "sell out."
I love Simple Plan, and I have no problem with them selling out. But it was indeed their goal to stop singing about government censorship, environmental destruction, etc.
But if you intentionally "sellout" are you really selling out?
@@WuwuWuwuTV I would say so, just that there's absolutely nothing wrong with selling out. We all got to eat
Selling out allowed Pierre Bouvier and Chuck Comeau (the singer and drummer, respectively) to do music for the rest of their lives and raise families, etc. They wouldn't have been able to do that as Reset.
@@ianjolieshow I have my doubts. I feel like selling out is more what Eminem has done in recent years. Attacking what he used to believe in and really wagging his finger at what made his career so successful. Simple Plan sounds like they just wanted to make money and they evolved their sound to do that. Doesn't sound like they turned their back on these beliefs. I don't know though.
Ayyy Dookie (and Weezer blue...and Smashing Pumpkins Siamese Dream) were the first three albums I ever personally owned. had em on cassette. this was my foundation to becoming a pre-historic sweater-vest emo several years later. Good vid as always, dude! 👊👊👊
thanks!
Just discovered your account. I really liked the vid! good quality and well written.
Thanks so much!
This is such a well thought out video! 👏🏻 You hit the nail on the head with the nuance of what it means to be “punk rock” or a “punk rock band.” From the anti-establishment themes to catchy songs about love, there so much to admire about this depth of this genre. But I also appreciate how so many punk bands talk about living your life and experiencing joy, without the shackles of the powers that be taking that away from you, being an act of rebellion in and of itself.
I’m hoping we see Fugazi and Op Ivy reunite at Riot Fest (or elsewhere) this year, but that may be a pipe dream 😂. An awesome video overall!!
As an aside, have you heard of UK band Bad Nerves? So much good music coming out these days!
thanks for the kind words! I've need to dive into Bad Nerves again for sure!
Menzingers are one of the best bands ever. Took my daughter and baby momma to see them this year. It was their first show ever❤️
Punk Rock changed our lives❤
Please do a history of folk punk
Give the people what they want
There seems to be this weird thing when people bring up "real" punk, they seem to think it starts with black flag era hardcore and think that's all there is, hating on all pop punk. Popiness has always been there too. Though I can never accept 5 seconds of summer like some tried at the time, into the club
I couldn’t tell you when it started. I just know that it isn’t dead.
Totally agree! Thanks for watching!
1976. Ramones.
Punk rock is my favorite sub genre🤟
Thanks for checking out the video!
*Punkrock was the (new) Renaissance of rockNroll. It's objectively the Ramones. Not the 1st album but the 2nd & especially 3rd Rocket to russia! The influence of the Beach Boys & Jan&Dean is the apex of what was pivotal to that sound. The Queers picked up where they left off. Also the greatly underrated Surf Punks. The album My Beach.* 🇺🇲🎼
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You've read Sellout by Dan Ozzi, right? If not not it really touches on Green Day and Jawbreaker and others. Great book for genre fans (others of course, because I'm sure you've read it)😉
I can't believe you reference the poser rany from slc punk
80's yo you forgot Shoegaze in which those heavy and melodic loud distortions before it became dreampop. Shoegaze greatly influenced grunge, britpop and indies. Shoegaze was like the mainstream hardcore.
Rage against the machine was not a punk band but they were against the government. They're funk/rap metal band and were heavily influenced by punk.
Listen punks bands from Brazil !
Iggy and the stooges were the first punk band
lmao
"Politics" & " fashion" is what ruined punkrock. There were very few legitimate bands: the Ramones, Dickies, Fear, the Queers, Angry Samoans, Meatmen, Dwarves, Smut Peddlers, Skrewdriver etc.
Politics ruined punk I. Your opinion, then you namedrop skrewdriver as one of the "true punks", really?