Ante Pavelić - Hitler's Forgotten Ally
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Not many people know that part of the German 6th Army that was destroyed at Stalingrad was actually Croatian, sent east by that nation's sinister dictator, Ante Pavelić, Hitler's forgotten ally. Find out the full story here.
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Ante Pavelić: forgotten by North Americans, perhaps, but not by Yugoslavs.
Certainly not by the Serbs.
I knew who he was but I grew around Yugoslavian immigrants, learning very quickly about the different ethnic groups.
And staggeringly beautiful women. I dunno what you guys put in the water but keep doing it.
Indeed not!
I served 2 tours in the former Yugoslavia during the 90s; 1 UN in Croatia, the other NATO in Bosnia, and I can tell you all of that stuff is still very much top of mind there.
In fact, what went on in WW2 animated much of what went on in the 90s.
Yugoslavs dont exist no more and never will again.. croatian people never call them yugoslavs, we always called ourselves Croatians.. ante pavelic is father of todays Croatia
@@sarlaton1483 and thats why yugoslavia was what it was
a beautiful dream and nothing more
"Forgotten?!" The Yugos I know, especially the Croatians & Serbs, remember him quite well. Albeit for complete different reasons...
Yeah but the other parts of the world many people forget that Croatia was part of ww2 and thus many would forget the leader of Croatia at the time. People on the other parts of the world won’t remember him unlike Ion Antonescu in Romania, Miklós Horthy of Hungary and Philippe Pétain of France.
Check Jasenovac , Serbs will never forget , Croatians would love to forget.
@@glupiholandjanin2058 Jasenovac is a communist myth that was created to denigrate the idea of an independent Croatian state of the Croatian people. Jasenovac was actually just a prison (working camp) where most of the prisoners were actually Croats who were communist terorists. Also the number of killed there was extremely exaggerated more and more ( all the way up to 700 000) and those numbers were made up by the communist for their political uses, real number is somewhere between 1200 and 2500 deaths.
@@glupiholandjanin2058 with all your exaggerations and lies that you brought to light, I wonder if so many Serbs were killed as you claim 700,000 who could then bury 570 people a day (the incinerator did not exist) and others who after the surrender in 1945 continued to work in Jasenovac because in books ex Yu writes that he worked until 7/1949 are they and then the Ustashas worked? At the trial, Artukovic asked nicely to dig everything up and show where his army disappeared, which the allies handed over to Tito after Blaiburg ...
It is good that you qualified your criticism of Mark Felton's title by confining your knowledgeable people who live in the former Jugoslavia. Mark was generous in that people in the rest of the world have not forgotten Ante Pavelić since they never knew about him in order to forget him.
You know stuffs going down when mark pulls out the “however”
And "as well as"
WHAT do you mean????
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Independent State of Croatia during ww2, committed the biggest genocide in entire history of southeastern Europe.
And he says it quite often on this one... oh boy
Blagoje Jovovic, the man who wounded Ante Pavelica. He was a member of the Yugoslav army.
Im pretty sure most of your viewers can locate Croatia on a map.
I think you have not met enough Americans
Chuckled at your username
@@MrKakibuy im guessing most would point somewhere near ukraine, since apparently all slavs live in eastern europe
@@Dimapur and especially profile picture
Yeah, he caught me off guard there. I imagine most of his viewers are an educated bunch
It's now easy to see how the area known as Yugoslavia exploded in the 90's. Those wounds were still fresh.
More proof that multiculturalism really doesn’t and hasn’t worked anywhere.
Yugoslavia shouldn’t have been created in the first place. It was a multiethnic and multi religious state carved out of two multi religious and multiethnic empires (Austro-Hungary and Ottoman Empire). The wounds of that mistake haven’t been healed yet. Bosnia is a mini Yugoslavia destined to explode again.
@@ΝίκοςΜπέτσης-ΗΠΑ lets hope it will not 🇷🇸
They were quoting stuff from hundreds years ago
The wounds were of course ruthlessly exploited by both Croat and Serb nationalist politicians after Tito's death.
3:56 "a coup was staged"
Maybe you could make a seperate video about that coup and the role of british secret servcie activity in Yugoslavia.
▼Incidentally, the official BSC history acknowledges the role of Donovan in a little known but important chapter of World War II history. On March 25, 1941, Yugoslavia joined the Axis alliance with Germany, Italy and other European countries. Two days later, a group of Serbian officers led by General Dusan Simovic, carried out a putsch in Belgrade, the Yugoslav capital, that violently overthrew the country’s legal government. Ten days later the new regime signed a treaty of friendship with the Soviet Union.
▲▼How did this sudden “regime change” come about? Several months earlier, during a visit to Belgrade in January 1941, William Donovan was in the Yugoslav capital as an agent of President Roosevelt and of the British government. During a crucial meeting and conversation with General Simovic, he set the stage for the “regime change” overthrow of the country’s government. The official BSC history puts it this way: “In Yugoslavia, Donovan paved the way for the coup d’état which resulted at the eleventh hour in Yugoslav resistance to, instead of acquiescence in, German aggression. He interviewed General Simovic, who asked him whether Britain could hold out against the Nazis and whether the United States would enter the war … He answered both questions in the affirmative; and at his persuasion Simovic agreed to organize the revolution which a few months later overthrew the pro-German government of Prince Paul.”
Put the below into Google and you can read the whole article. Very interesting history.
Collusion: Franklin Roosevelt, British Intelligence, and the Secret Campaign to Push the US Into War
@@willym9484 As it turned out it wasn't needed, Pearl Harbor happened. Had Japan not pulled that boneheaded move and Hitler not been stupid enough to open the Russian Front, History books would read very differently today. And once Europe and Asia had fallen to the Axis Powers, it would have been the turn of both North and South America.
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@@littledikkins2 Read 'Germany's War' by John Wear..Pearl Harbor was much of the same manipulation to get the US involved. It was a forgone conclusion to Roosevelt and his buddies that the US would join WW2, while he preached nothing but isolationism to the American people. All they needed was an excuse. Strong evidence also shows Hitler didn't have much choice but to strike first in Russia. Had it not been for the Balkan campaign, which delayed reaching Moscow by 5 weeks, the war could've and most likely would've been over in 1941. Read Leon Degrelle's books as well..Lots of different things could've happened in a million different ways and everyone has their angle. Good to have open debates using accurate historical resources as opposed to just swallowing "the Allies were hero's" narrative. Thanks for the input 👍
The biggest criminal of the Second World War, the butcher responsible for the most brutal massacres of the Serbs, no one has ever answered for the Ustaša crimes against the Serbs.
How do feel about the 17,000 Serbs that fought for the Ustasha during WW2 and that supported the policies of Ante Pavelic, for example, Serbian Chetnik commander Uros Drenovic?
@user-pc2jp2yr3c how about you use your brain? It's the same for Kosta Pecanac. They wanted to save their asses, like for example Vlasov in the ROA.
It's good to see more about the Axis minor countries like Ante Pavelic's Croatia, Dr. Felton.
Would love to learn about them here.
Watch movie *Dara from Jasenovac* it's based on true story.
Do not watch Dara from Jasenovac that is just Serbian propaganda.
@@stantory1822 Agreed. Goebbels would be proud how they falsified historical facts in that one lol. Steer clear from that fiction if interested in historical non-coloured facts.
@@stantory1822 You can go ahead and call *Schindler's list* a propaganda movie as well. Or *The Pianist* . Fact is: Croatia did worse atrocious massacre crimes than Germany in ww2. Inhumane crimes. And that isn't any propaganda, that is a historical fact.
@@randomargument972 you are full of it Everybody was doing crimes,Germans,Italians,British,USA,Japan,Serbia,Croatia,everybody does crimes in war not only one side.
Can you do one about Roland Friesler who was Hitler's chief judge.
A hysterical, homicidal cartoon villain who handed out death sentences for sneezing during one of Hitler's speeches 😂
yes he is one of hitlers most interesting and forgotten characters
And killed by a bomb from a B-17 or B-24 rolling into his courtroom. Everyone else had gone into a bomb shelter, but he stayed behind to grab his paperwork.
The "Beefsteak Nazi".
I can't remember offhand which dvd it is, but I have some film of his courtroom antics. Everybody looks a bit shellshocked as he rants and curses in this high pitched voice, hurling abuse at the poor souls held in the dock. It almost resembles pantomime!
Not the entire royal family was put under house arrest, only prince Paul alongside some politicians. The young king Peter was in London with his mother Mary during the almost entire war.
Peter II exiled in America , Pass away in 1970 in Denver, Colorado,.. Yugoslavia Like America was
I'm sorry, but this is wrong. Provide your sources to show otherwise.
@@russellwilliams4317 or if your so unsure look it up?
@@irishbattletoster9265 Shhh, little guy.
What made them “royal”?
While alliance with Hitler is well explained, policies and atrocities of Ustase deserve more time and focus
369 was not part of Ustase army..od Domobrans..They were drafted from homes..and who didnt wanted to go....well..didnt lived long..
@@zvonimirsarcevic7928 Domobrani, Domobranci in Slovenia were forced draft, Ustase militia and members of 369 were more Ustase ideological, where I live space there was a forced draft too
Most focus deserves Smrdija. The chetniks like you are.
@@bozidarbubas2287 doesn't make Ustashe any better :)
@@bozidarbubas2287 the chetniks were day care workers compared to the Ustashe
"Belgians, Walloons..."
I found that funny.
Yes, and very correct. He knows his stuff (obviously).
Did he say Belgian Waffles?
walloons are real, belgians are just made up
@@shutup2751 Belgians are French Dutchmen
Belgium should've been partitioned in the early 2000s.
Mark Felton always comes up with a new topic.
He came with communist propaganda from the time, communist in Vietnam , Cambodia, North Korea, San Salvador, Honduras, China, Russia, everywhere committed terable crime but when communist did execution Croatian women and children then this is ok.
@@ghkk9941 ne seri
@@ghkk9941 Biggest genocide denier.. Shame on you, fool!
@@ghkk9941 Zamisli pokusavas da okrivis druge drzave za ubistvo koje je pocineno od tvoje drzave. Pateticno.
@healed7364 Cista propaganda! Vi imate samo price! Mi imamo Hudo jame, Jazovke. A vase su jame prazne. Nema nista u njima! Vi cetnici imate same laži! A mi rupe pune kostiju i kose od dijevojaka, znaci dokazi i kosti Titovih zlocina, a vi nemate nista! Ciste laži i pričice! Gdje su vam dokazi, kosti nesto realno sto svijedoce Imas titovog generala koji priznaje kake je sve pocelo nakon uspostave NDH. Poceli ste napadat Hrvatska sela i muslimanska koja su pruzala otpore. Strasan genocid pocinjen je od srbske cetnicke i partizanske gerile protiv civila zena i djece! Kad vam su Ustase uzvratile, poglavito Crna legija uz Drinu, i potisnula preko Drine cetnicke formacije,. Otad su vam za sve krive Ustase. Jednako ste sva zvijerstva opet kao i 1941, otpoceli na isti nacit 1991. Ali niste uspjeli! Propao vam je plan u cijelosti vase srbske akademije narodnih umjetnosti! Propali planovi u cijelosti! Cak ni vasa propaganda nije uspjela, a rezultat je da imate najvise zapovijednika i vojnika po zatvorima zbog pocinjenih kaznenih dijela! Britanske arhive ce otkrit istinu prije ili kasnije!
You're truly evil if the Nazis tell you to chill out. THE NAZIS
Edit: why do I have Balkan ppl arguing in my replies I don't like this help
Lol
The holy words of ObamaPrism
Or your very motivated
No. Your goals just need to be different. NAZIs killed for profit, ant they saw no profit there.
@@Paciat LOL you idiot. They killed for ideals. NAZI`s had the idea that they where supreme.
Thank you Mark, another piece of true historical facts, keep doing these videos, i really enjoyed watching every video that you documented so far. By far the best documentaries about WW2. Greetings and best wishes from Serbia!
I know a guy in my home village, I was told he fought in Stalingrad but I found it unlikely. Guess they were telling me the truth after all.
Tito was no one in 1940, and after the war he became a war criminal.. he killed more people after the war that Ustase during the war
Most of Coatia's history was rewritten by Communists around this time. The "real" Tito was a blacksmith and was missing a few fingers due to his trade. The "fake" or replacement Tito was a educated Russian communist who was a well versed linguist and familiar with the culture in "Yugoslavia" that is why he was used as a replacement and the real Tito killed shortly after the war. Ask anyone from this era living in Croatia who was alive and they will not deny it.
i know few guys that fought in Stalingrad and on other battlefields with germans...including my greatgrandfather and grandfather who were both in SS
@@kosovoisserbia8937 he also let Serbian chetniks to stay, which were on the similar level of monstrosity as ustashe
@@kosovoisserbia8937 No there was two Tito's one was a Croatian Nationalist and blacksmith by trade, second was his post 1945 Commie replacement who was an KGB/NKVD educated Soviet doppelganger who was sympathetic to the Serbs.
I would very much like to hear your neutral historical interpretation of the Slovenian domobranci (Slowenische Landeswehr or the Slovene home guard) as this topic is still very divisive in Slovenia. I also find it very interesting that Slovenia, a relatively small country, was divided between 4 occupying countries; Germany, Italy, Hungary and NDH (Independent State of Croatia, that occupied only one Slovenian village, but still). Thank you for your content, I appreciate it greatly.
Everyone took piece of Slovenia :)
Ne morem verjet da ima nekdo sliko Preserna kot profilko 🤣🤣
@@anaperkovic4820 ne morm vrjet da smo se trije slovenci tukaj našli :D 🤣🤣
@@rokradosavljevic5879 Štirje:)
@@rokradosavljevic5879 Pet.
I'm sure I'm speaking on behalf of most of (if not all) of your viewers when I say thank you, Dr. Felton. As a history fanatic myself, your videos are always intriguing and I find myself learning something new almost every time I come to your channel. This is without a doubt the best history channel out there today.
You believe in yugo-serbian lies. Where are bones from Jasenovac? They do not exist. You cant understand us and our history because u cant understand politics.
Fun fact: first countries which recognised Croatia in 90’ after Island which was the first were Germany and Vatican.
Some alliance just never die!!
Fun fact: russia supported croatia with weapons during the war against serbia...
Seems that only allies of serbs wwre turks and arabs...there grandfathers
Vatican has blood hands as well.
To quote potential history from his minor axis powers tanks videos:
"Croatia's contribution to the axis was (War crimes) anti-partisan duty"
Always some classic banter
But also first partisan movement in SE Europe
@@Lovric_F that was Croatian people not the state
But yeah sisački odred
@@PeoplecallmeLucifer Pavelić and the Ustaše were not voted in power, so they dont have the legitimacy to be "the state"
@@Lovric_F first anti-fascist movement in the whole of europe to be correct
I’ll never forget reading that Hitler phoned Pavelic to ask him to tone it down, he was giving Nazis a bad name.
In fact the appalled German envoy Glaise-Horstenau (a former Austro-Hungarian staff officer who in the 1920s wrote the ‘official’ war history ‘Austria-Hungary’s Last War’) got involved in an attempted coup against Pavelic and was recalled in disgrace. Rather unfairly after the war he was interned for being associated with Croatian and German atrocities in the Balkans and committed suicide.
yeah right..its a myth..do you have concrete proof for that?
Not so fun fact: Hitler was born seven years after horstenau in the same town, braunau am inn
@@jasonheightreck7335 yep
@@jasonheightreck7335 they had a children only concentration camp for fucks sake
@@bodycount00 - lol you're upset for Pavelic's reputation? No further questions, your honour.
Jason Mark's Croatian Legion book is a excellent further read on the subject. Great video Mark
His books: Death of the Leaping Horsemen, and Island of Fire, are excellent books. Also, it was my suggestion that he write a book about the Pioneer Battalions at Stalingrad.
@@carlevans5760 fantastic books and he is Australian to boot, grew up in the same area as myself.
Watch Tik channel about the battle of Stalingrad! He goes into detail his documentary is huge on that city alone! It has more info on the Cro Legion also.
@@sly4462 He will be 65 years old by the time he finishes it. 😂😂
@@gordy3714 i know lol i watched alot of the vids but there is alot
Mark, I wasn't aware of this situation. Thank you for documenting it. I sure wish my father was alive because he was always reading WWII non-fiction books. I would usually pick those up and read them right after. He would have loved your channel.
God bless your father my man
My grandfather was a WW2 (Africa and Italy) and Korean War Vet. I unfortunately never got to meet him but was left with many stories my mother told me as a kid. And objects like a B17 horizon indicator. As well as an entire airplane propellor, lol. Allegedly he brought back a crate of artillery shells as well which according to my mother was confiscated after a fire in their Michigan home.
Unfortunately he got too caught up chasing young hippie girls and cheating on my grandma while doing all sorts of drugs during the 60's, and died of endocarditis from IV heroin addiction.
To be fair from what I hear of the 60's, if I didn't know better I would have taken that route too. Sounds too fun. Except for the heroin addiction part.
Kingdom Serbia Is Yugoslavia
Milion Srba dva Hrvata ubiše Ante i Tito ostalo za Kralja
A few things have been left out. The actual number murdered by the Ustaše is around 600,000 and this is mainly in Jasenovac, the worst concentration camp in the world where Serbs, Jews and Gypsies were systemically murdered. What the Croats did in Jasenovac even the Germans were horrified at the scenes they saw. They even created a special sleeve knife to wrap around the wrist like a glove with a blade for faster killing. This was known as the Srbosjek ("Srbo" means Serb, "sjek" means to cut). The concentration camp was run by the worst human kind called Maks Luburić who the Germans characterised as "notorious sadist" and "psychopath". After the war he fled to Spain where he changed his name. The Yugoslav intelligence agency UDBA was particularly interested in finding and killing him. An agent Ilija Stanić infiltrated the HNO (Hrvatski Narodni Odbor) and located Luburić in a villa in Spain. His head was smashed in with a hammer. Another Croatian war criminal in ww2 was Miroslav Filipović who was a catholic priest. He was directly involved in mass murders and executions, In one instance he entered a school and murdered 52 children which he admitted to on his trial. He was known as "fra Sotona", "brother Satan" in English.
As a Croat I can't believe someone covered this topic. Thank you.
It's 2021
@@vladtheimpaler2930 but not for many croatians.. they still think its 1943
@T K kako nije?? Cak moja tetka(sestra od majke) je ustasa.. a na kraju kad treba pare da kupi drvo pita nas.. bio sam u sibeniku..zbog toga ..nisam glup da ne vidim..
@Toni keep denying it..
@Andrija Garovic to ne menja istinu da hrvati se vidu tako ..
Yet another amazing video on forgotten history
Wait, that's The History Guy's line...lol.
Croatian people like me watching this video be like: :(
not forgotten, just not in your history books...
for the people that lived through that time and their descendants,
it is all very much still alive, and in the breakup of Yugoslavia, in the 1990s,
played a major part in the ferocity of those events.
Revenge for Ustase crimes during WW2, was very much on the minds of many a Serb,
Slovenian, Albanian, Muslim Croation, Bosnian and Macedonian.
Croats, to this day are tarred with the brush of the Ustase.
@@kidmohair8151 there are books about this person
Certantly not forgotten here in Croatia. People still fighst and argue who's father/grandfather was an Ustaša or Partisan.
The Germans didn't forget their Nazi allies. That's why, in the 1990s their support for Croatia was unconditional. Likewise they wanted to punish the Serbs for their anti-Nazi resistance during WW2.
You do understand that Serbia had a pro-Nazi puppet govt run by Serbian General Milan Nedic during WW2. There also was the pro-Nazi Serbian Volunteer Corps (Serbisches Freiwilligenkorps) and some Serbian Chetnik combats groups also collaborated with the Nazis to fight the Partisans.
@@northernstar4811Huge difference , Serbia was occupied by Germany, under German rule. While Croatia was officially independent although was a puppet and client states of Germany and Italy a
@@suleyman8696 Officially independent... but still not independent and internarional recognized. We didn't hold elections for /againsz NDH and members of Parliaments didn't vote for NDH.
The atrocities committed in Yugoslavia were among the worst in an already horrid war
The Japanese in China and South East Asia. Are in that league aswell.
@@thegunslinger1363 yep, Ustashe were on the level of japanese, some say that even ss was disgusted
@@overlord4404 both sides. Partisans too.
@@overlord4404 only nation that ever built extermination camps for children was Croatia, so they are up there with Japanese
@Erwin Rommel Italians really supported chetniks? Didnt they install Pavelić in the first place...
2:10 Wrong map. The "Yugoslavia" created in 1918. (actual name was Kingdom of Serbs Croats and Slovenes - the country was renamed Yugoslavia only in 1929.) did not have Istria and Zadar (Zara) which were given to Italy after WW1 and only given to Yugoslavia after WW2.
The map is showing post 1954. Yugoslavia that included Zadar, Istria and also the "Zone B" of the former Free Territory of Trieste. Also the various internal subdivisions of the SCS Kingdom (which varied over time) and the depicted subdivision of the Socialist Yugoslavia (6 republics with Serbia having 2 autonomous regions) were quite different.
I actually met a survivor of Jasenovac at an American Civil War reenactment of all places. He was a Serb toddler in modern Croatia whose entire family was deported there in 1941. His father died there and his mother only managed to escape with him by hiding him in a canvas bag when she was transferred to a German-run labor camp. Pretty shocking thing to hear when you went expecting a carefree weekend of running around in a Confederate uniform, drinking beer, and smoking dope.
He told you about children, didn't he? A camp for children... We Serbs still cry blood for them.
@Cletus Poirier If that was a joke.. It was in very poor taste!
omg, running around in a Confed Uniform ................and smoking dope :D
@@duka1461 Yeah, he was in the children's camp I think. As I said, his mother smuggled him out and that's why he's still alive.
@Cletus Poirier ah get a life
“He had a card life in the city. He had to work as a brick layer. Later he owned his own building company “. Lol, I feel like me kissed a step there. Or maybe South American capitalism is just that packed with upward mobility.
No, that is how it generally works for some people. They either move up in their jobs or find new ones.
Sack of used golden dental fillings might help too.
Savage Continent: Europe in the Aftermath of World War II by Keith Lowe is an amazing book if anyone wants to read about these smaller countries and what happened there during and after WW2. Stories of factions, political parties and different nationalities working with or against the german occupants, and then turn on each other after the war. Or they just fought all sides at the same time. After i read it I felt like the germans were just a lesser part of a long and huge conflict of many skirmishes and slaughter of civilians by different factions. Very good book!
Thanks brother, just purchased it from bookdepository.
So setting up factories to murder 6 million men, women and children makes the Germans a 'lesser part' of the slaughter of civilians. I think you should give up reading history. It's wasted on you.
@@bugsygoo The point was that THEIR war never ended and the germans were just a part of larger conflict that continued after WW2. I don't understand how you got this out of my comment, thats absolutely insane.
Thanks I'm going to seek it out.
but the Germans (and in the case of Yugoslavia and Greece, the Italians) were the catalyzer that made all the slaughter unavoidable. And so they were guilty by default even of what they didn't, for having pushed the "war" button in the first place.
Благоје Јововић ❤️❤️❤️
Рука му се позлатила ☦️🇷🇸
@@predragilic214 U paklu gorio.
@@Lipanj92 Da Ante Pavelić gori u devetom krugu pakla sa svojim usašama satanistima.I sa svojim Nadbiskupom Vatikanske(Vavilonske) crkve satanističke Stepincem. Pavelić se kračka sa Irodom i Neronom u istom kazanu.Dok Srpska deca mladenci koje je njegova zločinačka ruka pobila u logorima Siska,Jasenovca, Jastrebarskog,pevaju u andjeoskim horovima ,gde su sva deca mučenici ubijena i silovana od zločinačke katoličke crkve kroz istoriju .
@@predragilic214 vi ste najveci falsifikatori povijesti ikada. Sto ocekivati od naroda koji svoje poraze slavi i velica kao pobjede
Hrvat se javio da mi kaže da mi nešto falsifikuje i😄😂😅Idite bre miševe vi nemate vojničku pobedu u istoriji osim te ,,Oluje,,a i to nije nikakva vojnička pobeda jer nije ni jedna bitka vodjena!Nego se Sloba dogovorio sa Franjom i naredio Mrkšiću da raspusti vojsku !Gde vam je Kolubara,Cer, Mačkov Kamen,Kajmakčalan,Dobro Polje,Kumanovo,Bakarno gumno ,Oblakovo,Bregalnica, gde vam je vama Crni Djordje ,Hajduk Veljko ,Stevan Sindjelić!Imate samo nekakve koljače ,psihopate Luburiće,Francetiće i slične.
Fascinating. Watching this, I just learned something important about my family. My maternal grandfather was born in Croatia to German parents. When he was 17 in 1942/3 he was drafted (so I am told) into the ‘Free Will Battalion, Prinz Eugene’. This is where men of German blood were expected to serve. He was part of an anti aircraft gun crew. The Battalion subsequently was used as the ‘seed’ for the 7SS Mountain Division, Prinz Eugene. This much I knew. From the little I know about my grandfather, he spend the war within the borders of former Yugoslavia until surrendering in Austria to the Americans. Then emigrated to Australia in 1953. However what this video just taught me was that had he been slightly older, eligible for service in 1941, it is possible that he may have been in Stalingrad with the Croatian Legion (something I knew nothing about until now) probably dying. I honestly don’t know whether my grandfather was an honourable man. He died a long time ago. I know that he was wounded at least once, ( I have his military service ID book) and was just a basic ‘Soldat’. Given his age and German ‘blood’, he was always going to be an axis soldier. He would have been ‘used’ by the nazis somewhere. And it just happened that the SS formed a unit out of the locally raised unit that he was already in. But just now I have discovered that had he been a year or two older, or the age requirement slightly lower, I wouldn’t exist. He would have gone to Stalingrad and, that would have been it, just one more dead out of 60 million. Thank you, another piece of my families story has been coloured in a little.
Thank You for sharing this amazing story!
Again.. Thanks for sharing. I also have similar sentiments.. being a Jew.
Franjo Tudzman?
Your grandfather was very lucky since he managed to reach the Americans.
At that time in Yugoslavia, there was a very concentrated effort to prevent axis forces from reaching Austria and surrendering to the western allies. In late 1944 and early 1945 experienced units were pulled from the front, and replaced with freshly conscripted ones, in order to free them up to chase the axis troops retreating into Austria. The Prinz Eugen division was especially hated, and pretty much all members which were captured by Yugoslavian forces, or which were handed over to Yugoslavian forces by the western allies, were immediately short as traitors, since they were considered to have Yugoslavian citizenship.
The period was also bad for German population in general, as Soviet troops were allowed to rampage. In the end, some 90% of German population living in Yugoslavia was deported, and those that were left were expected to have a proof of affiliation with the communist party. Additionally, Prinz Eugen, as a historical person, remains contaminated in this region.
Most of the 7SS Mountain Division soldiers were drafted. The core of the unit surrendered in Slovenia, partisans summarily executed them immediately after the capture because they killed a bunch of civilians during the war. Soldiers from other units were usually imprisoned and after some hard labor returned to Germany.
Your grandfather was a lucky man.
Man who shot ante pavelic was Blagoje Jovović, 10.04.1957. Los Palamos, Buenos Aeres, Argentina. Blagoje was Serb from Montenegro and he wad not hotel owner, he worke as recepcionist.
Love the history on lesser known Axis nations in Eastern Europe. It would be nice to have a deep dive on Hungary in WWII. Somewhat advanced tanks, Air force, and Army that joined Germany before the war with the USSR.
Horty didn't really have a choice plus the Allies screwed Hungary over heavily in WW1.
Croatia wasn`t offcially an ally of Germany as it had been invaded by Nazi Germany in April 1941 ( Banovina of Croatia was an autonomous part of Yugoslavia) therefore it was an occupied country.
@@northernstar4811 Technically maybe
Hungary was a much more competent ally of the nazis than Italy in many ways.
@@Charles_Anthony The allies didnt screw them over in ww1
Trust me, Serbs will never forget him...
Him or those like him.
@@narancauk Him, hes ustase and many others.
@@SrdjaZlopogledja Yes there were a lot of ''others'' but USTASA are the favourites
bad thngs both.. i know the enemy is other, and you know it too......united christians
@@ricardolopez1228 united in following Jesus not united in a church or a cult or a leader or political system that seems ideal. Jesus is more than that
Dr. Felton, thank you for this video!
After Hitler himself Pavelic was the biggest monster of WW2 by far. He didn't even have the balls to stay in his beloved Croatia but fled like a coward to the Vatican where he was sheltered before running to South America . A Monenengrin Serb patriot Blagoje Jovovic found him and mortally wounded him. He died very slowly which may be some sort of justice to his many victims .
Ante Pavelic used to work in Belgrade, Serbia during the 1920`s as a Yugoslav MP at the Yugoslav parliament so he got to know the Serbs very well as they tried to kill him.
@Alejandro Brunner
He was a coward and abandoned his men to be slaughtered by the communists. The communists also slaughtered the Royalists but at least their leader General Mihailovic stayed with his people in his Homeland
@Alejandro Brunner
Just to be clear do you agree Pavelic was the head of a movement that slaughtered thousands of men women and children in concentration camps and deserved to have been tried and executed as a war criminal ? I get the impression you may be am admirer of this monster so you can set the record straight if I've got the wrong impression.
@@northernstar4811 I dont think thats the same Pavelič, there were 2 Ante Pavelič politicians at that time iirc
@@comradesam3382 Ante Pavelic was a lawyer and also a Yugoslav MP who worked in Belgrade, Serbia. I suggest you look it up.
It's easy to pass judgement on some who fought with the Germans, however a good friend of mine had a grandad from Latvia who had most of his family killed by Stalin. He was only to happy to fight the Russians in revenge for this families slaughter.
Agreed. A friend of mine was from Estonia and fought for the Wehrmacht on the Eastern Front. He hated the Germans, but hated the Russians more. His logic was that he didn't care what uniform he wore, as long as he was fighting Russia.
@@ColinH1973 Very logical from german perspective, also 🤤
what is the point of your comment? Are you nazi apologist?
Hey Latvia you had 100 000 SS soldiers !! im sure some people did the revenge , i never liked baltic states too much fascists , you are not slavs !...Altrough Baltic states wore part of Russian Empire since 18th century ! In the treaty of Treaty of Brest-Litovsk, Soviets ceded hegemony over the Baltic states to Germany; they were meant to become German vassal states under German princelings. it should had remained that way... but soviets wore threatened by nazi germany and part of their doctrine is to make longer buffer zone so Moscow is as far as possible from the border !!
@@enterthevoidIi how tf does that make him a nazi apologist?
A podcast about how Churchill threw Yugoslavia's Royalists under the bus in favour of Tito's Communists would be interesting
They threw themselves under the bus… Croatians were Nazi alias, and Serbian Chetniks pretty much ignored English and Americans… other than Partisans there were no one on board with taking the Germans down.
More like throwing away one Balkan butcher for another Balkan butcher.
Bottom line, Royalists never once fought against occupation and were collaborators to occupiers in fighting partisans. Elections in '46 showed what people think of them, since they lost by 90% of votes.
FYI Operation "Halyard" the biggest rescue mission saving 514 US combat airman was carried out by the Draža Mihajlovoć's Chetniks. But please continue to make blanket statements.
@@blastimir Where they got 500 airmen in one go? I know for fact that partisans helped return any airman which fell near their zone of operation. It was routine easy task after fall of Italy, without need to boast about it.
Quisling...I remember hearing that name in cartoons when I was a kid. It was used in a context of a collaborator, but I never knew why till now. Thanks, Mark! I miss it when cartoons would teach you things.
Norway restored the death penalty to execute him then eliminated the death penalty again. Worthless spineless stupid henchmen forever after are known as Quislings in both fiction and non fiction.
It's one of Norway's few contributions to the international vocabulary.
And one of which we're not terribly proud.
Most of the EU politicians are Quislings today. The support the invasion of Islam into Europe.
@@milferdjones2573 but that was against international laws principles. You can't give someone a heavier punishment than what was actually written in law when he commitet the crimes he was accused of. For example if you steal a car this year and the maximum sentence for theft is 5 years, if , when they catch you, the maximum sentence is 10 years, you will still get maximum 5 years.
@@georgepopescu1327
That defiance of universal legal principles is the real shame in Norway's recent history.
Equal to the conquest of Iceland.
Me: “Oh, look, Mark did a program on my country!”
Mark: “It‘s a place few people could find on a map”
Me: :(
Very interesting and important story, thank you!
You forgot to mention how Italy really "took control" of Dalmacija... the London Pact. English gave Italy the right to take Dalmacija in exchange for their services as allies
Dalmatia (province )is an old word from ROMAN EMPIRE !!!!!Dalmatia historically belongs to ITALY !!!!!
All buildings in Dalmatia Italians built, Croatian build nothing
@@diktrejsi8214 They were busy killing the Serbs together with current foreign occupiers
@@narancauk this is false, infact italy is a fake country made out of many smaller countrys. italy shouldnet exist
@@XnarozX monkey fascist italians and chetniks-still fascist allies even long time after the fascisms
still, italian tourist come to croatia and toast to our flag-mussolini ideology not alive in italy but alive in fascist serbia
My grandfather (on my mother’s side) was on the Eastern Front in Russia (survived everything) died in 1989. He was asked several times how he ended up in the 'Home Guard'/ Domobrani of the Croatian Army, and not in the Yugoslav Army/Partizani. He says that they went to the army that came to the village first. And that's it. And 99% people had no idea what WWII was a like.
Yes nobody knew anything....Maybe eating German SPAM and killing fellow citizens could give them a hint on which side they were.
Right...
Similar story with my grandfathers' brothers, one was in the bloody SS and the other a yugoslav partisan.
@@jelovoimevazece He could not been i SS. That was for Germans only!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@@narancauk not true.
Dr. Felton is one of my favorites historians. You inspire me to be a future military historian. Keep going with the great job.
"You inspire me to be a future military historian." I have an impression that many of us can say the same.
@@murilofurlan3479 You are disrespecting a future US Army soldier
@@markopace974 Sorry I didn't get it, my comment was not intended to disrespect anyone, the purpose was only to state that, I believe, many of us share a common interest.
@@murilofurlan3479 don’t worry about it, its a meme
You need to make a video about the Jasenovac camp, in addition to this clip and the atrocities of the Croatian state. To create a clearer picture of that bloodthirsty state.
He can also explain why so many Serbian Chetnik combat groups fought for Ante Pavelic and the Ustasha during WW2.
@@northernstar4811 he can also explain 800000 serbian victims in jasenovac of which most were women children and eldery and singular even in history where weapon was made and named for one purpose only to kill sernbian people literally named serbian slasher
@@balsabozovic4510 Yugoslav population census of the Serb minority living in Croatia :
1931: 633,000
1948: 543,795
So where are you getting you stats from?
@@northernstar4811 stats? From official allied report on jasenovac, and those are just low estimates
@@balsabozovic4510 No that isn`t correct. Where are you getting your stats from and who put his name on the report?
I'm from Slovenia and thank you for this episode. If I may suggest a war story of Lindsay Rogers, a guerrilla surgeon from New Zealand, who had his hospital in the forests of Slovenia, one among 40 partizan hospitals in Slovenia. He wrote a book Guerrilla surgeon: the adventures of a New Zealand doctor in Yugoslavia
The system of hospitals, schools, printing houses, mechanics, radio operators and military headquarters in the woodland of Kočevski Rog, Slovenia, was very sofisticated and efficient like nowhere in occupied Europe.
3:24 Hitler trying to keep up with Mussolini, hahaha I love it
In the greater picture, Mussolini trying to keep up with Hitler
@@nicholaslj901 indeed
Thank you for this episode. Maybe you can do one on Ion Antonescu and Romania in those years .
Am from North Macedonia, this guy might not be known in the west but everybody in the Balkans knowns of him even today.
Петровићу, ти си Србин из Старе Србије. Ако се Бога бојиш, пронађи чињенице о својим прецима. Можеш бити и еским ако хоћеш, али претке не можеш брисати гумицом. Цвет Српске војске је изгинуо да се ослободи Стара Србија( више пута). То нико не може избрисати гумицом...мисли о томе
Zivio ante pavelic
@@Hsbgg zivite i ti i on u paklu. Prvi kazan sa leve strane, vecno
@@HsbggСлава Господа није Живео Грих.
@@CzarLazar1389I confused
Croatian Ustasa was beyond brutal.
Blagoje Jovovic didn't forget him.
@user-no8dc9qv9ykukala ti majka
Dr Mark Felton always comes out with an unknown subject about WWII, we learn a lot
What a halfwit.
@@MrBrookcantdance what?
This is not an unknown subject of WW2.
@@jenshavla4673 to the simple minded, empty headed followers that felton has it would be an unknown chapter. Like their date of birth.
"The Royal family was detained in Kenya" - only Prince Paul and his family were under house arrest (he was perceived as an Axis sympathiser). King Peter II was recognised as the head of the Yugoslav Government in Exile in London.
"The surrendered Axis soldiers perished in the gulags" - mostly true, but about 3000 Croatian legionaries changed side and were allowed to form a Yugoslav Brigade that fought with the Partisans in Yugoslavia, most notaby during the operation of liberation of the city of Čačak.
I can think what that liberation looked like
I feel bad for Prince Paul. He had no other choice than to sign the Tripartite Pact as he was surrounded and under threat of war if he didn't. He was in fact pro British (being raised and educated there, and King George VI being his best man). He was a classic victim of circumstance and had to go against everything he believed in an attempt to save his country from war.
True, and mostly forgotten, there was after the war election where people could choose between monarchy or Tito. Well, don't want to comment how far this elections war fair but on the other side Tito has gain popularity as liberator of the country...
@@Intreductor Prince Paul was very cultured man ...somebody pulled Yugoslav Kingdom into war..all that Axis asked from our country was to stay neutral but really neutral(we were breaching our neutrality by sending food,weapons and raw materials to Britain) and from Sept.1939. till the occupation by Axis nothing had changed..Yugoslav merchant fleet was supplying British and many ships have been sunk by Kriegs Marine
True and Prince Paul s son volunteered to RAF and was fighter pilot during the world war 2..young king escaped with government and some parts of the Royal Yugoslav Army to Kairo and from there to London...Royal Navy stayed in Kairo and was active through out the war on Allied side,same was with Army and air force...There are many photos of young king inspecting individual ships and talking to the crew
Some people don't wear capes- Blagoje Jovovic
☠️☠️☠️☠️☠️
As far as sheer brutality goes, the Ustasha are at the very very top. The most ruthless organization ever, even the nazis thought so.
Serbian propaganda!
I agree with you.
❤ from Australia
For a short video on such a complex topic, really well done. Thank you.
It is, how it is. There is no mercy in war. That's why Croat warriors have "served" for centuries as "mercenaries" under majority of Europa countries and flags. They fought for France against Germany. They fought for Germany against France. They fought for England against Scotland. They fought for Ireland against England. They fought for Cross, the Holy See against Muslims and entered Jerusalem. They fought for Hungary, Poland, Spain, Italy, etc. Centuries and centuries....
So did Swiss mercenaries, and practically all armies in Europe had mercenaries from Genoa as their first artillery units. The DEFINITION of mercenary IS that they fight for whoever pays them to, that is not croatian specialty as you're suggesting..
Ma sta ti znas jadnicak to su najfiniji borci u povijesti sa najvecim srcem!
@@Agramer66 Actually, no. Not many nations in Europa were "mercenaries". Not many. Yes, the Swiss were one of them. No one disputes that, the history of Europa is known.
@@user-xj3ve7wt8k mercenaries or servants?
@@oldschool9735 I’m pretty sure they were mercenaries. Especially in the 30 years war.
Pavelic-you can see brutality in his face.
Yes he used to work in Belgrade, Serbia when he was a Yugoslav MP and had to deal with Serbs on a daily basis.
Mark, the number of „3000 croatian soldiers handed over in Bleiburg from the British to the Tito’s Partisans“ is not correct. The British handed over a number of between 150000-200000 Croatian POWs, Croatian civilians etc These people had officially surrendered to the British Army in Bleiburg and according to the Geneva convention they were POW and protected. The British didn’t respect the Geneva convention and illegally handed these POWs and civilians out to Tito‘s partisans knowing that they would be killed without any trial by the Partisans. Today there are hundreds of locations where the Partisans brutally massacred these POWs and civilians . And to make it worse : the British violated the Geneva Convention handing these POWs and civilians over to certain death AFTER the WW2 had officially ended. The real number of massacred POWs and civilians handed over by the British in Bleiburg to Tito‘s Partisans is reaching from 150000-200000. not 3000.
Napokon nesto pametno od tebe
ah, te brojke, koliko god da je malo je... :D
@@markomijatovic2036 isto za Jasenovac :)
@@markomijatovic2036 Typical filthy bloodthirsty comment from the sub-humans.
They didn't hand over enough of them to partisans those sadistic nazi collaborators and war criminals.
Long live TITO, PARTIZANS AND YUGOSLAVS!
Please do a segment on Kurt Waldheim who was wanted for war crimes in Nazi-occupied Serbia but ended up somehow becoming the UN Secretary General.
Oh yesssss. Mark, You must do that one!!!
I am from Croatia
great video as always ..
Can you make a video about the battle for the Odžak, the last battle fought in Europe 2 weeks after the surrender of Germany.
Its great when he failed to mention even 1% of genocide happening in NDH right ?
5:40
@@plazmica0323 Genocide that is not aloved to be investigated by croatian leftist but demanded by croatian right winged politicians LOL!! Croats who had ustashi greatparents are demanding and international komite to investigate those genocide claims while te left is sabotaging it.Komunists in their 70 jear rule never investigated those claims!! Can u explain me that?
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Serbia will never forget Jasenovac, Jadovno, Gradinu.. That was genocide .
A hrvati nikad nece zaboravit Ovcaru, Vukovar, Skabrnju i vase maltretiranje u prvoj Jugoslaviji
@Dragana Buha
I don't think that you can draw focus away from genocide that Serbs and their beloved Serbia carried out in Potočari. Then, like that slaughtering madness was not enough, the most angering factor of it all was the non-acceptance, even non-aknowledgement of what had really transpired during those dreadful days and nights. Taking on any responsability and reliability wasn't a possibility then, and for creators of that Hell on Earth, the guilt trip is not one they're likely to take an time soon.
@Alejandro Brunner The fact is that nobody gives a 💩about what happened in this region and what is or will happen.Only the Israel matter. So we can slaughter each other’s for eternity they”l just have a reason for something like “ merciful angel”- nice position for dropping nuclear waist.
@@ljudicovjek6092 That was a war crime NOT GENOCIDE. I feel sorry for every innocent victim. The only reason why people make war is to kill each other.And every war ends with talk. Think I made a clear statement.
@@scar2212 Vi jedini imate zaštitu zahvaljujući najstarijoj mafijaškoj organizaciji na svetu. Ali džabe se krijete iza religije- da ima Boga ne bi postojala dečija onkologija.
Kralj Aleksandar je bio megaloman, bez vas mi bi danas bili Belgija. Pssst, nauči da se stidis.
A great video but the maps of Yugoslavia used at the beginning of the video are wrong. That is the map of 1945-1991 Yugoslavia and it should be the map of 1918-1941 Kingdom of Yugoslavia without Istria, Rijeka and southwestern Slovenia.
Correct. And the ethnic map is also wrong. Before 1941 there were Serb majority settlements all the way to Bojanci in Slovenia.
@@rnbv3418 Is there a map someone like me can look at to see what the ethnic situation was during that time in that area?
Mark, you should look at Croatian devils brigade (369 regimen) that fought in Stalingrad. The last plane that took of from Stalingrad before Russians took it back had few of the devils brigade members. The captain of the brigade even forced the captain of the plane to wait on the tarmac(or the place they cleaned in the city for plane to land), and went back to theirs last stronghold to take the brigades loog book back to Germany.
Fascinating story...
Ultimately, captured soldiers were reorganized and put to good work fighting Germans soon after.
My distant cousin was one of them. He then became a partisan lol
@@jamesfordham251 lots of them fought either for Russians or partizan after they got caught...
SO what Croatians fought Bolshevik's or Communist's Nothing wrong with that
@@jamesfordham251 Ne cudi me od Hrvata :)
As a geography and history enthusiast I was taken aback to hear thar Croatia is hard for most people to find on the map, or at least that is the stereotype.
But Belgium is a beautiful city, isn't it? *;-)*
I have no idea where that is on a map, or Germany I know where england and america are that's it
@@Liamthewaldo thats sad
I just pointed at the balkan peninsula and said “Somewhere there”
@@aceul1894 Indeed it is, I'm American and don't even know where every state is on a map. I even met someone once who didn't even know where Italy was, and that was during High School might I add. You can thank our glorious and most well established education for that. Truly a marvel in the making.
I look for videos to listen to whilst falling asleep and I must admit I cannot fall asleep to your narrations because they’re riveting! Thank you for making these videos Dr. Felton. (I hope I got your name correct)
This is my favorite channel on TH-cam. I learn SOMETHING I didn't know with every video.
pavelic was a Jew of Sephardic descent, was a Jesuit and a Vatican agent
After WW2, in contrary to Geneva Conventions and human rights, Yugoslav communists literally wiped out all of the people that had anything to do with Croatian state. According to English sources, approximately 250000 soldiers and 500000 civilians were retreating to western allies' positions in southern Austria in May 1945. Croats were fleeing to English and American troops in fear of yugoslav partisan retaliation, as they pretty much only spread violence during the war, burning villages and Catholic churches and priests, torturing civilians etc. Victorious Yugoslav partisans eradicated all of the people that surrendered to English army on Bleiburg fields, and their bones still lie in numerous pits and unmarked mass graves troughout all of Slovenia, Croatia and Bosnia. Their only fault was that they fought for independent Croatia and have been on the wrong side of history, but only Axis powers supported the idea of independent Croatia, Allies only supported a new Yugoslavia, so they didn't have much choice.
The people who fled were cowards who didn’t want to be caught and executed for their crimes against all of humanity
@@Gage_The_Comrade_or_Something crimes against all of humanity? In this particular case winners committed a lot more atrocities and eradicated a lot more people, and then as winners they wrote their own history as if none of that happened, in fact they pinned everything to the losing side and demonized and satanized them in official history for a half century. It is sad how many people can not see this, yet they believe everything they are served with including this video which is full of lies and myths.
@Andrija Garovic odpepaj srpčiću
@Andrija Garovic servine aj se samo vi nemojte javljat
@Andrija Garovic samo u vasim tupavim glavama
A few corrections:
1. Croats and Serbs did reach an agreement on August 24th, 1939. It was just too late.
2. The coup was staged with help from British agents.
3. King Peter II wasn't at any point in house arrest, and didn't go to Kenya. He escaped to Athens, then went to Kairo and Palestine before coming to London on the invitation from British royal family. He married princess Alexandra of Denmark, George VI was his best man. He abdicated in 1945.
4. Ante Pavelić was shot not by "a Serbian hotel owner", but by a Yugoslav secret service agent.
Otherwise video is on point.
Greetings from Croatian history teacher ;)
Manje više svaki njegov video ima dosta pogrešaka.
During WW2 the biggest town occupied by the Serbs in Croatia was the mountain town of Knin, the town's population was 2,000 persons during WW2.
The town of Knin was controlled by the Orthodox priest turned Serbian Royalist Chetnik warlord Momčilo Đujić who collaborated with the fascist Italians and other Axis forces. Under Momčilo Đujić's command in various raids about 5,000 Croat citizens were murdered during WW2.
The Ustasha never captured the town of Knin. The town was captured by the communist led Yugoslav Partisans in 1944 and Serb Chetnik warlord Momčilo Đujić later fled to the USA.
I wonder if Pavelic, Skorzeny and Degrelle ever got together in Spain to reminisce!
With Sivitri Devtri and Miguel Serrano probs
@Ryan Michael Don't cut yourself on that edge.
@@orpheonkatakrosmortarchoft4332 Its funny how you dismiss him like that but there were guys like Julius Caesar that the west revere as heroes just because you happen to come from that tradition.
To Croats he's a hero.
@@scutumfidelis1436 Nobody reveres Jules Caesar anymore my guy, beside it's much easier to forget about something that happens 2000 years ago when most people's actual cultures didn't exist than some modern genocidal maniac whose crimes may have costed one's grandparents.
@@scutumfidelis1436 ok but Ryan Michael doenst seen like a croat name, a nazi name maybe.
5:26
"With my signature on this day,11th of february 1942 no. 802...." that is what Ante said if you are wondering
No, I didn't wonder
I'm glad that i can find Croatia on a map! Greets from Germany
If someone can't find some country on a map it is a question of his geographical knowledge, but Mark was being arrogant (very typical for people from England) aiming to look down on Croatia, just like many of his countrymen look down on many other countries.
Well, you should be able to, since Germany has bought majority of hotels and land of Croatia's coastline 🤣🤣🤣
@@stephenscallion38 whats arrogant in this video bro?
@@AcidNinja158 Acting as if other people can't find Croatia on a map, it's right there in his comment.
80 years later Croatia is still mostly nazi powered. It's fascinating how countries carry their beliefs even after a war that was so devastating. Also Croatias tie to Germany still exists. During the yugoslav war in the 90s Germany supplied Croat Ustasha with weapons. Both Croatia and Serbia still have strong nationalist beliefs and that's the reason why both countries have such a bad economic situation. I visited both countries few years back and was really shocked, a friend suggested a Canadian movie about yugoslav relations called The weight of chains.
croatia is not nazi anymore, but there is strong nationalism in croatia and that is a good thing., every time we got soft, serbs stabbed us in the back. they still up to this date want to negate out identity and claming us and our land. so why are you surprised? our nationalism and nacizm is just an answer to our barbarian disrespectful neighbour.
Croats are very liberal and Kind compared to serbs...
serbs actually deny the existance of independent republic of kosova...50% of serbs deny there war crimes in bosnia other 50% are even proud of...
Also serbs teach there children in school to hate muslims and albanians that they are all animals who needs to be klld...and then they talk about croats?
What hypocracy!
And im not even from croatia! But everyone who is from balkans knows the hard truth, unlike westener wannabe experts
Germany didn"t help Croatia with weapons neither did any Western country. If they had the war would have finished a lot sooner.
Instead, it was a long war before the Serbian terrorists fled as soon as the Croatian army marched into sight in 1995.
I'd be very interested to see a video on Leon Degrelle if you can make one. His involvement in the Mexican Civil War as a journalist, political career, service on the Eastern Front, and escape at the end of the war are all fascinating to read up on.
Like a new release from my favourite scotch maker, I open with great anticipation Mr. Felton's most recent video!
How is he forgotten? He was one of the most important Axis leaders.
The average joe probably has never heard of ante pavelic
@@guccino412 The average Joe also never heard of Hirohito or Hideki.
@Podkova Pretty understandable, considering Poland has experienced an immense amount of significant world history.
@Podkova But at least you are aware of the problem. That is the good part. It is way worse if you think what you were taught is representative already.
I am not from the Balkans or Europe, but I already know Pavelic. Guess I am too eurocentric too :)
And one of the most horrible
As a Croat i must hate him because he sold my Istria, Zadar and parts of Dalmatian islands to Italy…. These lands are priceless and very valuable, i still dont understand why some Croats support him 🤦🏻♂️
He signed away parts of Dalmatia to the Italians but you forgot Croatian Istria and Zadar were gifted to the Italians after WW1 by the British & other "Allies" ( Treaty of London of 1915).
So you hate him for giving some stupid territories away but you dont hate him for killing 1 million people
@@lazar6030 "you dont hate him for killing 1 million people"
What Yugoslav study states that he killed 1 million people?
I know know 3 Yugoslav studies were done during communism ( & are available online to read) and not one states that.
All three studies have different numbers.
@@northernstar4811 Therefore the evil defeated Yugoslav communist totalitarian genocide regime is totally biased studies that are unacceptable. Further civilised certified independent international experts in ground exhumation is urgently required in Croatia...
Felton Fridays! Thanks for teaching me so much. Its great!
pavelic was a Jew of Sephardic descent, was a Jesuit and a Vatican agent
Hello, best history on the clip!
"Bosnian muslims", as you call them, were all working with NDH during ww2, they were even Pavelićs deputies.
Tito created the term bosnian muslims in 1963. and added the 6th torch (6 nations) to Yugoslavias coat of arms
and later Војска Републике Српске was formed to prevent a repeat of the fascist/muslim genocide of the Serbs
A bunch of Bosniaks (here called "Bosnian Muslims") did also fight with the partisans. In fact, at the end of 1977, 23% of Bosnian recipients of war pensions went to Bosniaks as a reward for participating in the WWII on the side of the partisans.
@@BaikalTii Fact #1: muslims did not participate in the genocide of serbs.
Fact #2: Војска Републике Српске is known all over the world as a genocidal organisation, with its leaders today jailed for war crimes.
@@heyyo162 Haha nice try. You should scratch a bit under the surface my friend
@@BaikalTii So Republika Srpska prevented the genocide of Serbs by conducting genocide against Muslims and Croats?
There is a video from 1992 on record where Izetbegovic calls for harmony between Serbs, Croats and Muslims while Karadzic calls for genocide of Muslims and Croats.
Sadly it is just a drop of water in the ocean...
They had a conc.camps for children!
Monsters worst of the worst!!!
Serbian lies 101.
He didn’t even try to keep a low profile after the war
Why would he when Vatican protected his beloved nazi scum..
He did, Mark is wrong on that one. That changed only 10 years after the war.
The Americans brushed him off. Evidently maybe he wasn't worth much in gleaming information.
@@plazmica0323 cry more chetnik
@@dontsearchdocumentingreali9621 But that Serbian who stabbed Ante made his life suffer till he died in 1959! So YOUR DEAR LEADER DIED SLOWLY MY LITTLE USTASA!
This was fantastic Mark, thank you! This history is often overlooked, I appreciate the education.
A lot of misinformation in this video. Historical revisionism to suit current political agendas.
This laid some of the foundation of what would become the Balkan wars in the 1990 and the hate between Croats and Serbs.
Problems already started in 1918 when the new state was formed by the Allies.
Thanks for the great content. These videos make my day
4:18
Mussolini being like: bruh? Tf is this? Strategy? What's that? Imma pretend I understood the plan
He was mortally wounded on purpose by Blagoje Jovovic a chetnik agent who wanted him bleed and suffer to death.
Pavelic had his own personal guards aswell constantly around him so getting up close for a execution was out of the question!
Jovovic stated this is exactly what he had hoped for in an archive, killing him instantly would be painless.
Communists like to claim jovovic was 1 of theres but he was a chetnik who through connections abroad found out exactly where pavelic was hideing moreless where he was going to be time and place.
Rumour has it that it was infact a Ustase member that tipped Jovovic off!
Because although Serbs and Croats were huge enemies in the war there was always very close contacts between certain individual Ustase and Chetnik members out of pre-war friendship. .
Nothing new, even in these latest wars, deals always get made by individuals on both sides.
Would love to see a detailed docu-movie on this hit. Just like Anthropoid.
Never forget Jasenovac
never forget serbian mithology
Kakve veze ima rat sa izmišljenim žrtvama
Summer camp ?
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Thank you Mark Felton, I’ve been watching your videos for over 3 years and I can confidently say I’ve never missed a single video. You make TH-cam worth visiting nowadays
You are very welcome
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That map on 0:25 is incorrect. It seems to depict current day sovereign countries. Kosovo is not internationally recognized country. Open Google maps and see how its marked. Mostly NATO countries and their vassals recognized it while 5 EU countries, Russia, China, India as well as most of the world does not recognize it.
In short, by using that map you are supporting western propaganda instead of internationally recognized facts. I doubt that was your intention as an unbiased historian.
Also on 2:55 saying that "unpopular king was assassinated" sounds propagandistic. Whether king was popular or not is less relevant considering that he was murdered by terrorists. Kennedy was also unpopular in some parts of the US but you certainly would not start a sentence about his assassination with "unpopular president".. etc
Really amazing video as always!
But I have to correct you, the word "Poglavnik" generally just means "Leader", kind of like "Furher" - As far I know, they're both uncommonly used today, rather resorting to "Poglavar"
( After a tiny bit of research on the Croatian language portal 'HJP', it's apparent that the word "poglavar" itself comes from "glavar" which is someone who is a village leader. )
Meant nothing wrong with this comment! Just wanted to corret it a bit! :S
Best of luck and contiue making good vids!
Poglavnik, or poglavar are words with the root in the word "glava"(head), so roughly, you could translate this titles as a "headmaster" (of the state, or village)
And in German is now "Anführer" instead of "Führer"
Whatever,on the end he ended up escaping to the Vatican dressed as a nun.. That's a hero :) the man is a disgrace
My great grandfather died somewhere outside of Stalingrad. He was in 369. Pukovnija and it shaped my family history TOTALLY. His story is very interesting
My grandpa was too in 369. but he was stationed in Bosnia
Počivao u miru bozjem..vjecna mu slava!
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Pukovnija = Regiment.
@@bodycount00 Neka smrdi pod zemljom....
Yeah, Croats greeted Hitler's army with flowers
like serbs greated ottomans, with flowers, and now?
@@papak5592 : No one greeted the ottomans with flowers. Not even albanians and bosnians.
@@gweltas1372 serbs did...(sultan bajazit & princess olivera) also google about jojleni etc.
And chocolates! Don’t forget they also greeted their nazi lovers with chocolates!
@@papak5592 the second that Despot Stefan Lazarević (the one who HAD to accept to be vassal from the Ottomans after his father Lazar Hrebeljanović died in Kosovo in 1389) removed his status as vassal and went to Constantinople to accept something I don't know how to translate from the Byzantines. So I don't think you're right, Serbs were forced to
Ok its OK the weekend can begin now, we've had our Mark F's Friday pick up... Cheers all from Speybay Scotland...
8:58 "the 3000 or so Croat troops ... were executed".
Executing surrendered troops is a war crime in itself, for which I doubt those responsible ever received justice.
A deal was cut between Churchill, Roosevelt and Stalin at Yalta whereby prisoners and 'displaced persons' would be repatriated to their country of origin at the conclusion of the war.... whether those folks wanted to return or not. Stalin was fearful that many of the Soviet POWs held by the Germans would not return to the USSR. American and British troops dutifully forced many of these hapless individuals into railway boxcars and sent East. Many of the Soviet POWs were murdered upon arrival in Soviet controlled territory. Many more were sent to slave labor camps in Siberia. As noted by Dr. Felton, the Croat fascists who were turned over to the Titoists were mostly murdered on the spot. Oh, it wasn't just the Croat fascists that were 'liquidated' by the Titoists. The Italian fascists, and their families, who were unlucky enough to remain in Yugoslav controlled territory at the end of the war were also dealt with. Google 'foibe massacres' for that story. As Churchill once said, "The Balkans produce more history than they consume."
And masacre off hundreds off thousns off civilians is what ...Partisan and TIto were 2 soft..there were much more to be executed..but for sake off "brotherhod and unity" most were abolished ..and they work their nationalist propaganda and after WWII leding to war in 90s
It is nothing compared to what the Communists did to Hungarians, Germans, etc, "after" the WW2.
@@user-xj3ve7wt8k Did you forget what the Germans did to the Russians during the war? If a nation decides to commit mass war crimes against their neighbors, that country better damn well be sure they win, otherwise there will be hell to pay.
0:54 norway is in the video and i feel appreciated! thanks for bringing the quisling quisling forward.
You forgot to say that in Independent state of Croatia you had many conc.camps,many of them united in one big camp which was name ,,Jasenovac" where many Serbs died,the only conc camp on Balkan that had Crematorium which was burning dead bodies 24/7 according to Serbian sources it is estimated that from 1941 to 1945 nearly 4 years of killing serbians he managed to kill between 400 000 to 650 000 Serbs in the moust brutall ways posible.Also you forgot to mention that Yugoslavia is pronounced as "Judas Freii" by Nazis the only country that killed all their Jews,moust of them killed in Jasenovac in Croatia.
The biggest town held by the Serbs in Croatia was the mountain town of Knin during WW2, the towns population was 2,000 persons only during WW2. The town was controlled by the Orthodox priest turned Serbian Royalist Chetnik warlord Momčilo Đujić.
The Ustasha never captured it. The town was captured by the Yugoslav Partisans in 1944 and Serb Chetnik warlord Momčilo Đujić later fled to the USA.
So where do these 600K Serbs come from when the biggest Serb held town in Croatia was 2000 people only?
Clearly something does not match up with your claims.
I did not notice him mention the Black Legion (Crma Legija I believe is what it was called) who were particularly ruthless.
Because its the name for the first Ustasha regiment.