because, 1) it doesn't hold a whole bottle's worth 2) it adjusts the ppm and ph to compensate how much to send to the soil 3) adding more will condense the week stuff left over because everything settled to the bottom. 4) its a drip system, plenty of time for adjusting things for solutions. 5) cleanup between harvests removes salt build up anyways.
@GardenerofZion Just use a mixing pump or a motor, if thats really a big concern. If automation is really that important that should be pretty trivial.
tchydro "How could you build that for 200.00?" Well I cant; your system is complicated and commercially built, mine is homemade and cheap, but works. I use an arduino 30$ mounted it in a old computer case got a couple dosing pumps. Going to use the pH and EC stamps for control. So far cant get the stamps working as they should, but that's just a mater of time.Stamps are not required for a basic home system, it can drive up cost a lil over the 200$ I'm growing plants with it now.
for such a high end system, i would expect it to adjust the amounts of neuts automatically based on its ph and ec readings. You still have to manually adjust all the inputs based on the readings displayed?
@ve3tru We offer "stamps" at a great price, even have a littel arduino pH board(ph interface with an atmega on it) for 21 bucks, we are still growing our site and inventory but expect full blown writeups on everything from garden automation to energy monitoring.
I all of the sudden feel like an idiot. Genius amazing design just brilliant. Wow! For those wondering who could possibly use such a system? I can think of at least two farms right now that could benefit from this system. And I am only really familure with a couple people that have started using hydroponics to help supplement themselves and their farms all year long. Both are not giant places compared to some strawberry and blueberry indoor grows probably are but they want to get their feet wet
Looks neat but for $3000! Ha!!, for a ph and temp probe and 4 dossers,, shop on ebay, make an entire system with arduino sensors relays and 4 peristaltic pumps for $50, wire it up in a afternoon. wont looks as neat but you can hide it in a box.
+Jeff Powell Ebay Hong Kong, put up with long delivery times: £0.99 Arduino Uno, £19.99 ph sensor board and probe, either bunch of transistors or relay board around £0.99 or £2.50, peristaltic pumps £4 each you need 3, Base, Acid, and nutrient. you then have money left for a box maybe a lcd screen £2.50 so you can change settings. I think a lot of people are getting carried away on thinking a more expensive system will work better because it costs more. a cheap peristaltic pump is less accurate than some fancy expensive crap sure but you not measuring out your solutions to the nearest atom! 1ml will do and that is beyond fine for a greenhouse. its still more accurate than you could do by hand using a measuring jug.
+Jeff Powell Yea that is true, but they all drift. there are some solid state ones in the labs that don't need calibration and don't drift and can measure way more than just PH,, but there £££££££££££ out of my price range. for my hobbies I like to make stuff cheap as possible that will still do the job reliably. because then i can afford to make it more complex.
Nice system if you were fucking rich as fuck but then why would you grow if you were rich people grow to subsidize the crap low wages most of us are on stick to the basics make a few quid be happy live free!
Brilliant, over-designed and unnecessary - obviously the idea of an engineer and not a farmer. It is pretty, though. Perhaps the best application for this tech is in zero-gravity environments, like the space station.
roberto benatti This is not a phone and we're not speaking. Think about that before you write. Me, I'm no farmer. I'm an industrial electrician and plumber. This is all very attractive, but it won't pass a CBA except in orbit, all the more because nutrient introduction is one of the few things you don't want to automate in a grow room.
***** In that case, I recommend using a pump ... a device that some folks call a "gravity inverter". That being said, I can't imagine why you'd want to automate nutrient introduction in zero-gravity environments. Do you spend much time in such places? Also, bear in mind that of all the things you might automate in a "garden", nutrients do make the list. That's best done manually, as needed ... which depends on the plants and not the schedule. If you were forced to work via remote control, you might develop a system to test the plants themselves and then introduce nutrients remotely, but time is NOT the important variable in nutrient introduction, ergo automating it may well be bad for the plants. Automation is cool and all, but it's not for everything. Cheers.
***** Um, no, I wouldn't want to get involved with that, nor is "outer space" accessible to me just because I can imagine it. As for the undersea environment, if you think that that has zero gravity, then you might have more success making french fries for McDonald's, or collecting unemployment. Smoke your fatties and leave the engineering to the engineers...
***** If you've consumed cannabis in the last decade, then you won't be hired to work in orbit. So unless you a multimillionaire and can afford your own space station, you're better off smoking your cannabis and enjoying your fantasies as fantasies. "Wanting to be in on it" doesn't cut it ... not in the real world. Cheers.
because,
1) it doesn't hold a whole bottle's worth
2) it adjusts the ppm and ph to compensate how much to send to the soil
3) adding more will condense the week stuff left over because everything settled to the bottom.
4) its a drip system, plenty of time for adjusting things for solutions.
5) cleanup between harvests removes salt build up anyways.
the guy ripping bags open with the knife on his keys immediately got to me...
This is what growing will look like when Big money gets into the game.
Takes big money to even get this stuff! lol
@GardenerofZion Just use a mixing pump or a motor, if thats really a big concern. If automation is really that important that should be pretty trivial.
How do you address requirements for feeding different tables, in different stages of growth, different amounts of nutrients?
That's what those solenoid valves are for
tchydro "How could you build that for 200.00?"
Well I cant; your system is complicated and commercially built, mine is homemade and cheap, but works. I use an arduino 30$ mounted it in a old computer case got a couple dosing pumps. Going to use the pH and EC stamps for control. So far cant get the stamps working as they should, but that's just a mater of time.Stamps are not required for a basic home system, it can drive up cost a lil over the 200$ I'm growing plants with it now.
One bad thing I see here is...if using water from the main it would be very cold. Would go to a res or heater first imo.
Amazing video good explanation
for such a high end system, i would expect it to adjust the amounts of neuts automatically based on its ph and ec readings.
You still have to manually adjust all the inputs based on the readings displayed?
yea it must feed automatically Hindu Goat or what the point, in living!!!
Lets see a trial run of the easy feed system. Looks interesting to say the least. If it works that is a gamechanger being able to feed with no rez.
Why not use Venturi vents?
They do, bu usually for much larger systems. It’s called direct injection fertigation. This is hydraulic volumetric injection.
or you could just put a small pump on a timer in each nutrient.
Does this system regulates de ph automatically??
Thank you for great video
@ve3tru We offer "stamps" at a great price, even have a littel arduino pH board(ph interface with an atmega on it)
for 21 bucks, we are still growing our site and inventory but expect full blown writeups on everything from garden automation to energy monitoring.
@ve3tru How could you build that for 200.00?The gro check combo is more than that!!
Where to buy this in europe?
drain to waste a flood table???
I all of the sudden feel like an idiot. Genius amazing design just brilliant. Wow! For those wondering who could possibly use such a system? I can think of at least two farms right now that could benefit from this system. And I am only really familure with a couple people that have started using hydroponics to help supplement themselves and their farms all year long. Both are not giant places compared to some strawberry and blueberry indoor grows probably are but they want to get their feet wet
You'll be growing strawberries in that room for 26 years just to make the deposit back... fuck that....
Looks neat but for $3000! Ha!!, for a ph and temp probe and 4 dossers,, shop on ebay, make an entire system with arduino sensors relays and 4 peristaltic pumps for $50, wire it up in a afternoon. wont looks as neat but you can hide it in a box.
+Arthur Gibbs I would like to know where you are buying all of that for $50.....
+Alan Williams that part is easy. the $50 cost is hard. it is closer to $300 if you want a decent setup
+Jeff Powell Ebay Hong Kong, put up with long delivery times: £0.99 Arduino Uno, £19.99 ph sensor board and probe, either bunch of transistors or relay board around £0.99 or £2.50, peristaltic pumps £4 each you need 3, Base, Acid, and nutrient. you then have money left for a box maybe a lcd screen £2.50 so you can change settings. I think a lot of people are getting carried away on thinking a more expensive system will work better because it costs more. a cheap peristaltic pump is less accurate than some fancy expensive crap sure but you not measuring out your solutions to the nearest atom! 1ml will do and that is beyond fine for a greenhouse. its still more accurate than you could do by hand using a measuring jug.
+Arthur Gibbs not bad. I couldn't find a decent pH probe for continuous monitoring. most drift way too much for that purpose.
+Jeff Powell Yea that is true, but they all drift. there are some solid state ones in the labs that don't need calibration and don't drift and can measure way more than just PH,, but there £££££££££££ out of my price range. for my hobbies I like to make stuff cheap as possible that will still do the job reliably. because then i can afford to make it more complex.
@lsv8dubs 40-60k. i saw the bigger one at Treatinng Yourself expo in Toronto last week
how much
Right. Like I would turned my 2nd bedroom into a garden if I didn't have to. WTF
but i only want to grow plants
yt s awesome
Nice system if you were fucking rich as fuck but then why would you grow if you were rich people grow to subsidize the crap low wages most of us are on stick to the basics make a few quid be happy live free!
looks expensive,not practical for the small scale home owner, I made something similar for under 200$ going to post a video on youtube soon.
Brilliant, over-designed and unnecessary - obviously the idea of an engineer and not a farmer. It is pretty, though. Perhaps the best application for this tech is in zero-gravity environments, like the space station.
farmer: peasant shoes and big brain up
is not an engineer...
think before you speak
roberto benatti This is not a phone and we're not speaking. Think about that before you write. Me, I'm no farmer. I'm an industrial electrician and plumber. This is all very attractive, but it won't pass a CBA except in orbit, all the more because nutrient introduction is one of the few things you don't want to automate in a grow room.
***** In that case, I recommend using a pump ... a device that some folks call a "gravity inverter". That being said, I can't imagine why you'd want to automate nutrient introduction in zero-gravity environments. Do you spend much time in such places? Also, bear in mind that of all the things you might automate in a "garden", nutrients do make the list. That's best done manually, as needed ... which depends on the plants and not the schedule. If you were forced to work via remote control, you might develop a system to test the plants themselves and then introduce nutrients remotely, but time is NOT the important variable in nutrient introduction, ergo automating it may well be bad for the plants. Automation is cool and all, but it's not for everything. Cheers.
***** Um, no, I wouldn't want to get involved with that, nor is "outer space" accessible to me just because I can imagine it. As for the undersea environment, if you think that that has zero gravity, then you might have more success making french fries for McDonald's, or collecting unemployment. Smoke your fatties and leave the engineering to the engineers...
***** If you've consumed cannabis in the last decade, then you won't be hired to work in orbit. So unless you a multimillionaire and can afford your own space station, you're better off smoking your cannabis and enjoying your fantasies as fantasies. "Wanting to be in on it" doesn't cut it ... not in the real world. Cheers.
having someone unpacking shit in the background is mega annoying.
What versions do they have of these today , I could build my own from an aquarium ph adjuster .