could you please do an EGPU test with this one? I am really hoping to get this with 2TB & make it my main rig ( i understand that i'll lose quite a bit of performance but i'm not too pressed about 20/30 extra frames or whatever)
@@blackpanthertchallalem8522 I agree completely, it's a handheld device. Only .01% of gamers prob would really care about an EGPU test and for that you can do it yourself if that's really your hard plan and if you don't care about higher than 20/30 FPS you just answered your own question IMO @jodesyt
@@PoiseMuncherwell improvements over the 6800u. The ones with 7840u are all the same performance wise. It's just different form factors and who's bad control panel you want to use.
That's how AYA's are, they make too many devices every week with minor changes and they even compete with each other... They look like xiaomi with their mid-range cell phones that compete with each other
I give you thumbs up because there customer service sucks I been still waiting for my crystal purple aya neo geek never got it and I purchase it last year.
@@zeendaniels5809no they actually deliver the products. How long? Depends on which SKU they deliver first. Could be 2½ weeks after the campaign ends but they do deliver. The only one they had issue with was the Crystal Purple, and that's because they had to make a new mold for it. Outside of that they deliver.
Depends on who you ask. Some people have had great customer service from them. Some people have had bad customer service from them. My Ayaneo 2021 had a orange spot on the screen and they did a RMA on mines and sent it back in 2 weeks after they fixed it. So it depends on who you adked
Aya is going to make a new model after this. Heck i bet it's in the works already. That's Aya for you, always releasing new models with slight upgrades.
That's how AYA's are, they make too many devices every week with minor changes and they even compete with each other... They look like xiaomi with their mid-range cell phones that compete with each other. Be careful, more AYA fans attack you because of what you say, a fan has already come to defend AYA
@@juliovanegas310 Honeslty they should dump all these other dumb models and focus exclusively on the Air line. The niche of being a tiny, pocketable hyper powerful handheld would work well for them, if priced more reasonably at 500-600 rather than goofy ass 800 dollars.
they're releasing models as if they were laptops, but people want a lot more brand commitment for a console than a standard pc. doubt they'll change course since it seems they're more interested in flooding the market with new products.
This is the perfect handheld imo. They are meant to fit in your pocket and be taken everywhere without hassle. This is what Nintendo fans have been asking for this generation ever since the Lite came out. 5.5" with OLED screen. In this case the 1S packs a 7840u!
I hope more companies come out with more PC gaming handhelds so that the market gets flooded with competition and the price goes down so more people can afford them. Or even better you can have more of them without hurting your wallet.
@@NeonPixels81 everyone I know that got a steamdeck, sold it. I personally like the grip of it because I have really large hands. However I didn't like the resolution. My buddies and I like the 2000s early 2010 Tom Clancy games and my buddy had his steamdeck plugged in to get the most out of it to his monitor and Tom Clancy splinter cell conviction ran poorly. Had to to turn the resolution down. I am a playstation owner. And conviction was the only one that was Xbox/ PC exclusive. My PC is not built for gaming but I can run those late 2000s early 2010s games just fine. I can afford to buy one of these handhelds but I'm honestly going to wait for the something better resolution than the steamdeck and more affordable so that I can get one for my nieces and nephews. But that new onexfly is kind of what I'm looking for. But we have the technology to have these little handheld running at any resolution high performance and affordable. Someone out there is going to mod these handhelds with high specs and a high refresh rate screen. Those brainiacs are out there. Wherever u mfkrs are, Were waiting. 😂😂😂
Its impossible to get to lower prices than now, with good performance. Asus Ally has better specs, touch screen display, practically everything way better than a same price Laptop computer would have. Its already aggressively priced to low. Compare to cellphones? High end cellphones are more expensive, than bigger, way more powerful handhelds like Asus Ally and Steam Deck are. There is just a limit on how cheap you can sell something.
@@wallacesousuke1433 I agree but I had one of the first PC handhelds about 10-12 years ago. It was a Samsung the size of a Wii U. It was But compare that to the handheld of today, night and day. It's irrelevant PC Will become smaller faster better. There's already mini PCs that are powerful than PCs from 5 years ago. Where gonna see solid state gpu no fans. Your phone is doing that already. Just look at phones just t years ago. Compared My Samsung Galaxy s9+ to my Samsung Galaxy s23 ultra. The the 23 makes my old s9 it's bitch in ram and performance Tell people about SSD replacing mechanical hdd and no one would have thought about that. I welcome these handhelds. One thing I hate about PCs today is the fkn RGB lights on everything. It's not a EDM festival in your room. It kills the immersive experience for work and play.
@@ETAPRIMEbut doesn’t this mean they actually quit well maybe in asia? That they can keep pumping out stuff so quickly ? I give them credit for non stop improving but that gets expensive for the consumer 😂
@@acutelilmint8035 u aren't forced to buy every model, just pick the one that fits your needs whether that's compact and oled like the ayaneo 1s, large size and pads for rts games like the ayaneo kun or middle ground like the ayaneo 2s 🤷♂️ seems great to me, glad other companies are trying to compete as well
Run everything at 720p use the lowest setting possible and you'll have a great time with these devices. For such a small screen, just leave it at that while making the most of the battery.
@@megajatt123 You can't knock them for that but yes you are right. At least you have that option, but again 720p is the way to go in handheld mode. People that run these games at high settings even at 800p when in handheld mode is just plan foolish for the battery. Don't expect crazy hours of gameplay.
I've been interested of Aya Neo pc handheld consoles over one year and it's awesome how fast new Aya neo consoles are coming. This Aya Neo Air 1s looks really beautiful.
It would look so much better (and smaller) if it didn't have those fat bezels around the screen. Still a nice small unit for those looking for a smaller form factor.
Waiting for Strix Point Ryzen 8000 APUs is worth it before dropping big money into these. We are not yet at 1080p medium 60fps yet. If we can manage a 3050 mobile performance with Ryzen 8000 APUs, then it'll be worth it.
I don't think even then it's worth while to purchase just yet. These types of handheld pc still suffer from a lot of tech limits that we have available for now, until these products become mainstreamed I wouldn't buy them.
This’s perfect! Something much more similar in size to a switch/switch lite! Always felt the steam deck was wayyy too huge and the ally wasn’t any better.
Too bad not much 45/65w thin powerbanks I might just slap in on the rear to get 5-6hours of playtime for an extra 100g Still lighter than my deck Since this is an oled 720p gaming shud be enough even with fsr2
Sad that IRL indiegogo seems to be a gigantic scam imo... So many friends that get NOTHING yet from aya, when youtubers get these "new models" every weeks... Natural selection I presume....I'll never spend such money in a product that I'm not 100% sure to get finally.... All my respect for enthousiasts who can get one 👍
That's hilarious. You'd be lucky the damn thing lasts 45min. ETAPrime had to do math to figure out the battery limits? Like you didn't have enough time to spare on a tiny live 38w/hr battery test 😂. After 35min of play I'd be like, oh look I have 20% battery left...💀🥀
So far the is the only Aya product where an updated release actually made sense because of the OG one being on very outdated hardware at the time of its launch in terms of the graphics side of the SOC.
Aya products are very beautifull and good looking, but they are too much expensive related to the other competitors that also offer customer support and warranty
Hey ETA, I just wanted to say I recently saw a new video which combines Window with steam OS. So it basically gives windows a steam deck look, I believe it's called WindeckOS.
After playing with the Steam Deck OLED I am never buying another handheld with an IPS panel. OLED is the way to go. Even good quality IPS panels are a blurry mess. The ones we get in handhelds dont seem to be top tier so its pretty bad. Games with any decent motion gets ruined with the insane amount of ghosting. Glad to see more handelds going OLED.
Any company putting the Ryzen 7840 APU into a case without full sized thumbsticks, a crappy directional pad, or with ridiculous ergonomics, should be arrested. The 5-inch screen is a felony. This device looks like more plastic than screen. So much performance, wasted on a tiny screen like this? WTF at the ergonomics. How is someone supposed to hold this and use the right thumbstick or the dpad comfortably for an extended period of time when they are so close to the bottom of the device? So.. more plastic than screen, yet, it does not look like there is enough plastic to provide enough room to hold it comfortably and play games. Looks like an epic faiL to me, but I could be wrong. Right? Wrong. Lol.
@@r4yker442I suppose they could slap a Fisher Price kids logo on it. Then it would look more correct, even though Intel recently claimed that children don't need that much processing power, lol.
I really dig the software it looks super smooth. I would love to get this in hand but for that price its a no from me. The ally kind of makes this device irrelevant. yea it doesn't have amoled screen or have a 32gb option but the vrr, 120 refresh rate, and it being $200 cheaper make up for it. The only person i see getting this is a person who wants an even smaller device thats willing to pay premium for it. I really wish these chinese hand helds aya, onex , and gpd could compete in terms of price because these things arew awesome
Screen's too small for a device intended to run PC games. Most PC games assume you're going to be playing on a full desktop or laptop screen and don't scale down to a 5.5" screen well. That's before you try navigating Windows on such a tiny screen. Are you supposed to do all your setup docked? Edit: Look at the CP2077 text on screen...it's ridiculous.
Hey @ETA how about making a PC handheld video where you show PC games on fullscreen, running on a handheld with the settings you are using? It's a bit hard to judge graphics qualitiy if watching someone filming a small handheld, even on a bigger screen.
Buy the time you actually get this in your hand even through crowdfunding it would be outdated in Ayaneo lineup. You won't be able to sell it for even half the price to buy their newer model.
At least this one is smaller. I don't see the point of other devices running 7840 if it's just the same as the z1 extreme and same size and specs as the ALLY. Even if SD card issue exists just pretending Ally doesn't have SD card is still more value because it's so much cheaper than these
I've bought this version with 4TB SSD storage, this Is what I mean "portable", only cons Is battery Life, but for me Is sufficient to play a bit in a day :)
Aya has too many products. They should consolidate it into 3 product lines each with a single yearly refresh MAX: 1. Air (6" 720p 60hz Screen in Air Plus Body, mid range APU) 2, Standard (7" 1080p 60hz in the 2S/Geek body, highest powered APU) 3. Next(8" 1080p 120hz Screen in the Kun/Next II body, discrete GPU & Touchpads) This battery and screen are also far too small for a 1080p resolution and 7840u.
@@KindaKurt When each product does not get proper post-launch support, has quality control issues, and/or becomes unnecessarily obsolete just months later (especially at these prices). If they are going to have this many random configurations, should just offer customizable made to order devices.
@@Josh-jx3lh the reason why they can offer “many” skus is because of the very nature of the product. They are sourcing the components, meaning they build the exact same machine with a better processor, more or less. Poor service some people are experiencing are most likely due to the size of the team.
Is this the ultimate handheld console, well almost if the screen was 6 inch and borderless it would be perfect, being a switch lite user the 5,5 is perfect on indie game but it feels to small on big AAA open world games
@@hadouken2123 that's what she said 😂, on a more serious note for a handheld 6 inch is the sweet spot I tried the switch OLED who has a 7 inch display and it's too much length, for me the best handheld to this day is a (jailbreak) switch lite because it's portable and affordable, it has a lot of default but yet the handheld experience is unmatched
I would love a larger OLED handheld, but it's not feasible for any company smaller than the biggest players - the likes of Ayaneo can only re-use displays from other, much more popular devices available on the market. And OLED is currently limited to phones with their weird resolutions and cutouts or 11"+ screens for tablets, laptops, and so on. The only 7" OLED is in the Switch and it's a Nintendo-exclusive part. 5.5" FHD OLEDs from older 16:9 phones are pretty much the only OLED displays that they can use.
Thanks ETA. Great overview. Would you recommend the thin and light version of this release, mainly to play indie games (hades, dave the diver etc) on the go? Would battery life be ok for say 2-3 hrs? Thanks a lot.
That's rather hard to do so considering theses handheld manufacturer can't count on game sells to get xtra money to compensate a lower price, thats why valve's steam deck is able to go that cheap, there's case like asus and their ROG ally but thats rather rare to see
@@zakilj3 with the current "competitors" you're probably right. But what's to stop other companies to come in like Microsoft, Epic, etc from coming into the market
@@MUCKLEECH that do be a right point but I feel Microsoft would probably count on cloud gaming BS rather than making a pc handheld like the steam deck, epic I guess they could do it as a way to get people into their store but who know if they ll go for that
Steam Deck 16/512GB model is 650 dollars. The Early Bird price of Ayaneo Air 1S is 799 dollars for 16/512GB. The price is not unreasonable. Others can't compete with Steam in terms of price, because Steam's revenue is from selling an infinite amount of games. Aya has to make the money from sold hardware, and their profit margins are arguably very thin since their sales aren't high scale.
Too many handhelds coming out and the only two worth getting in my eyes are the $400 Steam Deck and $160 Anbernic RG405M. That's it. The rest looks forgettable or will take up space in your home and will go unused because who has time to play on 20 different handhelds? Guys like ETA, Taki, and Russ are here to talk about them. I doubt they use any of them daily except for 1 or 2. They have families to raise. I'm very particular in what I want from a handheld. I keep seeing these videos between Deck vs. Ally and I'm glad the Ally exists. Competition inspires innovation. But it's clear to me Steam Deck is better for most people like myself. Inferior hardware usually won out their generation. Nintendo has done this for so many years with inferior specs but cheaper prices. I believe the RG405M would be the GOAT retro handheld if priced the same as the Miyoo Mini. I'm talking less than $80. I do wish it came in a plastic body to reduce the weight. But it's very close to perfect. It's got a 4:3 aspect ratio which is ideal for most games for PS2/GCN and prior gens. Only 640x480 which will make it sharp since many games were in 480p or below. No need to upscale. Got hall effect sensors. I wish Valve releases a Steam Deck Lite similar to the size of a regular or OLED Switch. When I bought my most recent Lite from OfferUp, it came with a case more suited for the reg Switch. I eventually got one specifically for the Lite and I love it. I can use that other case if Valve ever releases a Deck Lite similar to the size of the reg Switch or to this Air 1S.
I still don’t understand idea of this devices of being too powerful. Most demanding games are much more joyful when u play it on big screen. For such small screen would rather play some creative Nintendo platformers
idk I still likethe steam deck for it's analog stick button/dpad and touchpad placement, and the fact that it hastouchpads, for shooters and desktop navigation it's so much better and the ergonomics and comfort and screen size and price I want something small but comfort and control is most important if you're gonna have a device that's already large wish steam deck has a snes style dpad though, it's got the mushy modern style dpad that's only good for changing weapons and stuff
Should've went with a 720p screen at 5.5 inches. Now running a non-native res that doesn't benefit from integer scaling kind of messes with everything.
@rommelstrafe If only they could source one - all of these handhelds have weirdly looking screens because up to this point, nobody was really manufacturing high grade OLEDs and IPS panels that are 16:9 5-8"
Remember when console gamers used to say PC gaming is too bulky and confined to a desk? It's amazing to see how far x86 gaming PC's have evolved, and where they go next...
I don’t understand why people complain about having the latest hardware in fast production cycles. They seem to do fine with software updates. This is a perfect console for me. Sadly, I canceled my order and went with the rog ally. I rather have asus 1 year warranty + an extra year from my credit card company in case anything goes wrong. Shipping a device to china sounds like something I don’t want to deal with. With their small team, rapid production cycles and limited hardware(replacement parts) It would probably take months. With small issues like a faulty key I would probably not ship it and get stuck with a half working unit. I’m sure in 2 years I’ll want to upgrade anyway. If there was local manufacturer warranty/repairs I would 100% get one.
Everytime I change my underwear Aya Neo is releasing a new handheld and the old versions are still as expensive as when they were first released. It wouldn’t kill this company to put some of their old handhelds on sale every now and then.
I'm a huge fan of the compact size of this device. 720p at 15 watts sounds like the sweet spot for me. It would make a great companion device for my 405m. Thankfully I just got a new job so I might be able to get my hands on one of these!
How is the reliability of these devices so far or for ayaneo models at least? I agree with some of the comments that it's almost every week that a new unit is popping out from different manufacturers
Too many ayaneo lineups and the sad part is they will stop updating their previous models and this makes them unreliable They have good products but price and lack of service makes it not worth it at all accordingly to me
@@KindaKurt Good to know. Thought there was some aya bound software or hardware wich had to be maintained by the company as time goes on. Like the steam deck does
it looks so pretty and i like the fact that it’s compact and light, i have ayaneo 2 and gpd4 but both of them are heavy. but i’m refraining myself from buying this 1s version because of that ugly big benzel frame. still waiting for the day when the screen is larger but as light as this one
I think A version of this with the Ryzen 5 7640U Would have been so good at a lower price point.
This really feels like AYA Neo Air Lite instead - in size i mean.
could you please do an EGPU test with this one? I am really hoping to get this with 2TB & make it my main rig ( i understand that i'll lose quite a bit of performance but i'm not too pressed about 20/30 extra frames or whatever)
Nah keep it top spec for me
@@blackpanthertchallalem8522 I agree completely, it's a handheld device. Only .01% of gamers prob would really care about an EGPU test and for that you can do it yourself if that's really your hard plan and if you don't care about higher than 20/30 FPS you just answered your own question IMO @jodesyt
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I feel like a new handheld comes out everyweek...
With miniscule improvements
@@PoiseMuncherwell improvements over the 6800u. The ones with 7840u are all the same performance wise. It's just different form factors and who's bad control panel you want to use.
That's how AYA's are, they make too many devices every week with minor changes and they even compete with each other... They look like xiaomi with their mid-range cell phones that compete with each other
They literally do
Made in China....I'll pass
AYANEO has too many SKUs can they even provide good customer service...?
Customer service? You buy the item and and that's it.
Are they even delivering the product? Today I drop 1 grand, but the handheld arrives after how many years?
I give you thumbs up because there customer service sucks I been still waiting for my crystal purple aya neo geek never got it and I purchase it last year.
@@zeendaniels5809no they actually deliver the products. How long? Depends on which SKU they deliver first. Could be 2½ weeks after the campaign ends but they do deliver. The only one they had issue with was the Crystal Purple, and that's because they had to make a new mold for it. Outside of that they deliver.
Depends on who you ask. Some people have had great customer service from them. Some people have had bad customer service from them.
My Ayaneo 2021 had a orange spot on the screen and they did a RMA on mines and sent it back in 2 weeks after they fixed it.
So it depends on who you adked
Aya is going to make a new model after this. Heck i bet it's in the works already. That's Aya for you, always releasing new models with slight upgrades.
When you’re way too ambitioud😂 I like that about them..but sometimes it’s ok to be a bit lazy.. and wait a few weeks before they release the next one
That's how AYA's are, they make too many devices every week with minor changes and they even compete with each other... They look like xiaomi with their mid-range cell phones that compete with each other. Be careful, more AYA fans attack you because of what you say, a fan has already come to defend AYA
@@juliovanegas310 Honeslty they should dump all these other dumb models and focus exclusively on the Air line. The niche of being a tiny, pocketable hyper powerful handheld would work well for them, if priced more reasonably at 500-600 rather than goofy ass 800 dollars.
They already announced the model after this lols
they're releasing models as if they were laptops, but people want a lot more brand commitment for a console than a standard pc. doubt they'll change course since it seems they're more interested in flooding the market with new products.
i am getting confused, don't know which one i need to buy. This Brand literally launches new handheld every Saturday
This is the perfect handheld imo. They are meant to fit in your pocket and be taken everywhere without hassle. This is what Nintendo fans have been asking for this generation ever since the Lite came out. 5.5" with OLED screen. In this case the 1S packs a 7840u!
I hope more companies come out with more PC gaming handhelds so that the market gets flooded with competition and the price goes down so more people can afford them. Or even better you can have more of them without hurting your wallet.
It can't get much cheaper than the Steam Deck, though. Technically not a "PC handheld" but still.
@@NeonPixels81 everyone I know that got a steamdeck, sold it. I personally like the grip of it because I have really large hands. However I didn't like the resolution. My buddies and I like the 2000s early 2010 Tom Clancy games and my buddy had his steamdeck plugged in to get the most out of it to his monitor and Tom Clancy splinter cell conviction ran poorly. Had to to turn the resolution down. I am a playstation owner. And conviction was the only one that was Xbox/ PC exclusive. My PC is not built for gaming but I can run those late 2000s early 2010s games just fine. I can afford to buy one of these handhelds but I'm honestly going to wait for the something better resolution than the steamdeck and more affordable so that I can get one for my nieces and nephews. But that new onexfly is kind of what I'm looking for. But we have the technology to have these little handheld running at any resolution high performance and affordable. Someone out there is going to mod these handhelds with high specs and a high refresh rate screen. Those brainiacs are out there. Wherever u mfkrs are, Were waiting. 😂😂😂
Its impossible to get to lower prices than now, with good performance. Asus Ally has better specs, touch screen display, practically everything way better than a same price Laptop computer would have. Its already aggressively priced to low.
Compare to cellphones? High end cellphones are more expensive, than bigger, way more powerful handhelds like Asus Ally and Steam Deck are. There is just a limit on how cheap you can sell something.
@@slapndbass that's why I'll never waste a penny on these crappy expensive handhelds, rather invest the money on upgrading my PC
@@wallacesousuke1433 I agree but I had one of the first PC handhelds about 10-12 years ago. It was a Samsung the size of a Wii U. It was But compare that to the handheld of today, night and day. It's irrelevant PC Will become smaller faster better. There's already mini PCs that are powerful than PCs from 5 years ago. Where gonna see solid state gpu no fans. Your phone is doing that already. Just look at phones just t years ago. Compared My Samsung Galaxy s9+ to my Samsung Galaxy s23 ultra. The the 23 makes my old s9 it's bitch in ram and performance Tell people about SSD replacing mechanical hdd and no one would have thought about that. I welcome these handhelds. One thing I hate about PCs today is the fkn RGB lights on everything. It's not a EDM festival in your room. It kills the immersive experience for work and play.
AYANEO has more SKU´s than employees
I believe they have more on the way LOL
@@ETAPRIMEbut doesn’t this mean they actually quit well maybe in asia? That they can keep pumping out stuff so quickly ? I give them credit for non stop improving but that gets expensive for the consumer 😂
@@acutelilmint8035 u aren't forced to buy every model, just pick the one that fits your needs whether that's compact and oled like the ayaneo 1s, large size and pads for rts games like the ayaneo kun or middle ground like the ayaneo 2s 🤷♂️ seems great to me, glad other companies are trying to compete as well
Run everything at 720p use the lowest setting possible and you'll have a great time with these devices. For such a small screen, just leave it at that while making the most of the battery.
Fuckin this! That these things have screens over 720 is honestly bafflin!
@@megajatt123 You can't knock them for that but yes you are right. At least you have that option, but again 720p is the way to go in handheld mode. People that run these games at high settings even at 800p when in handheld mode is just plan foolish for the battery. Don't expect crazy hours of gameplay.
I've been interested of Aya Neo pc handheld consoles over one year and it's awesome how fast new Aya neo consoles are coming. This Aya Neo Air 1s looks really beautiful.
yep reminds me of switch lite minimal design
It would look so much better (and smaller) if it didn't have those fat bezels around the screen. Still a nice small unit for those looking for a smaller form factor.
Waiting for Strix Point Ryzen 8000 APUs is worth it before dropping big money into these. We are not yet at 1080p medium 60fps yet. If we can manage a 3050 mobile performance with Ryzen 8000 APUs, then it'll be worth it.
This exactly what I'm waiting for, would be perfect for gaming when travelling and you could also plug it into a TV!
I don't think even then it's worth while to purchase just yet. These types of handheld pc still suffer from a lot of tech limits that we have available for now, until these products become mainstreamed I wouldn't buy them.
Sadly, Ryzen 8000 APUs will still utilise (utilize?) R780M - so we'll have to treat it more as an evolution, not a revolution in terms of performance.
This’s perfect! Something much more similar in size to a switch/switch lite! Always felt the steam deck was wayyy too huge and the ally wasn’t any better.
Too bad not much 45/65w thin powerbanks
I might just slap in on the rear to get 5-6hours of playtime for an extra 100g
Still lighter than my deck
Since this is an oled 720p gaming shud be enough even with fsr2
Sad that IRL indiegogo seems to be a gigantic scam imo...
So many friends that get NOTHING yet from aya, when youtubers get these "new models" every weeks...
Natural selection I presume....I'll never spend such money in a product that I'm not 100% sure to get finally....
All my respect for enthousiasts who can get one 👍
If they put a 6 inch ips screen in the same body, i would have a already brought it. Instead i went to win4.
That's hilarious. You'd be lucky the damn thing lasts 45min. ETAPrime had to do math to figure out the battery limits? Like you didn't have enough time to spare on a tiny live 38w/hr battery test 😂. After 35min of play I'd be like, oh look I have 20% battery left...💀🥀
So far the is the only Aya product where an updated release actually made sense because of the OG one being on very outdated hardware at the time of its launch in terms of the graphics side of the SOC.
Aya products are very beautifull and good looking, but they are too much expensive related to the other competitors that also offer customer support and warranty
Hey ETA,
I just wanted to say I recently saw a new video which combines Window with steam OS. So it basically gives windows a steam deck look, I believe it's called WindeckOS.
the size and its form factor is looking the best for me from all other available handheld right now
After playing with the Steam Deck OLED I am never buying another handheld with an IPS panel. OLED is the way to go. Even good quality IPS panels are a blurry mess. The ones we get in handhelds dont seem to be top tier so its pretty bad. Games with any decent motion gets ruined with the insane amount of ghosting. Glad to see more handelds going OLED.
Any company putting the Ryzen 7840 APU into a case without full sized thumbsticks, a crappy directional pad, or with ridiculous ergonomics, should be arrested.
The 5-inch screen is a felony. This device looks like more plastic than screen. So much performance, wasted on a tiny screen like this?
WTF at the ergonomics. How is someone supposed to hold this and use the right thumbstick or the dpad comfortably for an extended period of time when they are so close to the bottom of the device?
So.. more plastic than screen, yet, it does not look like there is enough plastic to provide enough room to hold it comfortably and play games. Looks like an epic faiL to me, but I could be wrong. Right? Wrong. Lol.
Imagine a world, where people with small hands live...
@@r4yker442I suppose they could slap a Fisher Price kids logo on it. Then it would look more correct, even though Intel recently claimed that children don't need that much processing power, lol.
🔴 You hate micro transactions in GTA online ⁉️⁉️ seriously ????
You can make millions for free just playing, no need to buy anything, you're just lazy
would love to see this working with the GPD G1
I really dig the software it looks super smooth. I would love to get this in hand but for that price its a no from me.
The ally kind of makes this device irrelevant. yea it doesn't have amoled screen or have a 32gb option but the vrr, 120 refresh rate, and it being $200 cheaper make up for it. The only person i see getting this is a person who wants an even smaller device thats willing to pay premium for it. I really wish these chinese hand helds aya, onex , and gpd could compete in terms of price because these things arew awesome
Screen's too small for a device intended to run PC games. Most PC games assume you're going to be playing on a full desktop or laptop screen and don't scale down to a 5.5" screen well. That's before you try navigating Windows on such a tiny screen. Are you supposed to do all your setup docked?
Edit: Look at the CP2077 text on screen...it's ridiculous.
I literally can't read anything on that part lol
Look at those huge bezels too...what a waste
Just an fyi, I believe the regular and retro power models are 450g, but still very light. I’ve got a preorder in, can’t wait!
I would happily buy a weaker version of this at $500. At $800 it's too much.
7640U would be awesome for sure
Probably better off looking for a used 6800U device if you're trying to hit that $500-$600 price.
They say (phawx) the 7460U has worse power efficiency than the 7840u! Go figure.
Hey @ETA how about making a PC handheld video where you show PC games on fullscreen, running on a handheld with the settings you are using? It's a bit hard to judge graphics qualitiy if watching someone filming a small handheld, even on a bigger screen.
that's pretty insane I'm sure at 720p 30fps one can play a lot of these games at high settings
We want you to try the new Mi Pad 6 on emulators to see the strength of the performance, who agrees with me?
Buy the time you actually get this in your hand even through crowdfunding it would be outdated in Ayaneo lineup. You won't be able to sell it for even half the price to buy their newer model.
wtf way to small the screen for me
At least this one is smaller. I don't see the point of other devices running 7840 if it's just the same as the z1 extreme and same size and specs as the ALLY. Even if SD card issue exists just pretending Ally doesn't have SD card is still more value because it's so much cheaper than these
PLEASE I REALLY NEED A 400$ WINDOWS HANDHELD THAT RUNS SWITCH GAMES
Ayaneo just smells like a money laundering scheme at this point.
Aya Neo software is better than armary crate
i wish they sold the mother board separately to upgrade the older 5600 model
Can i ask?.. is this good for long term of gaming?.. like playing for 4hrs. and it is ok to play while charging?..
Yes
I've bought this version with 4TB SSD storage, this Is what I mean "portable", only cons Is battery Life, but for me Is sufficient to play a bit in a day :)
Aya has too many products. They should consolidate it into 3 product lines each with a single yearly refresh MAX:
1. Air (6" 720p 60hz Screen in Air Plus Body, mid range APU)
2, Standard (7" 1080p 60hz in the 2S/Geek body, highest powered APU)
3. Next(8" 1080p 120hz Screen in the Kun/Next II body, discrete GPU & Touchpads)
This battery and screen are also far too small for a 1080p resolution and 7840u.
When was too many products bad for the consumer?
@@KindaKurt When each product does not get proper post-launch support, has quality control issues, and/or becomes unnecessarily obsolete just months later (especially at these prices). If they are going to have this many random configurations, should just offer customizable made to order devices.
@@Josh-jx3lh the reason why they can offer “many” skus is because of the very nature of the product. They are sourcing the components, meaning they build the exact same machine with a better processor, more or less.
Poor service some people are experiencing are most likely due to the size of the team.
Is this the ultimate handheld console, well almost if the screen was 6 inch and borderless it would be perfect, being a switch lite user the 5,5 is perfect on indie game but it feels to small on big AAA open world games
Even 6inch is still too small for big aaa titles with open world etc. (AirPlus User)
@@hadouken2123 that's what she said 😂, on a more serious note for a handheld 6 inch is the sweet spot I tried the switch OLED who has a 7 inch display and it's too much length, for me the best handheld to this day is a (jailbreak) switch lite because it's portable and affordable, it has a lot of default but yet the handheld experience is unmatched
I would love a larger OLED handheld, but it's not feasible for any company smaller than the biggest players - the likes of Ayaneo can only re-use displays from other, much more popular devices available on the market. And OLED is currently limited to phones with their weird resolutions and cutouts or 11"+ screens for tablets, laptops, and so on. The only 7" OLED is in the Switch and it's a Nintendo-exclusive part. 5.5" FHD OLEDs from older 16:9 phones are pretty much the only OLED displays that they can use.
Thanks ETA. Great overview. Would you recommend the thin and light version of this release, mainly to play indie games (hades, dave the diver etc) on the go? Would battery life be ok for say 2-3 hrs? Thanks a lot.
Id say so, for those games
I think its time for bigger displays
But it's $800. Is it twice as good a Steam Deck? I think not. We need more options that compete with the Steam Deck in terms of price AND performance.
That's rather hard to do so considering theses handheld manufacturer can't count on game sells to get xtra money to compensate a lower price, thats why valve's steam deck is able to go that cheap, there's case like asus and their ROG ally but thats rather rare to see
@@zakilj3 with the current "competitors" you're probably right. But what's to stop other companies to come in like Microsoft, Epic, etc from coming into the market
@@MUCKLEECH that do be a right point but I feel Microsoft would probably count on cloud gaming BS rather than making a pc handheld like the steam deck, epic I guess they could do it as a way to get people into their store but who know if they ll go for that
Def ayenos market demo are fairly wealthy
Steam Deck 16/512GB model is 650 dollars. The Early Bird price of Ayaneo Air 1S is 799 dollars for 16/512GB.
The price is not unreasonable. Others can't compete with Steam in terms of price, because Steam's revenue is from selling an infinite amount of games. Aya has to make the money from sold hardware, and their profit margins are arguably very thin since their sales aren't high scale.
Does this OLED with PWM? I always have headache with some of OLED screens without DC dimming.
Too many handhelds coming out and the only two worth getting in my eyes are the $400 Steam Deck and $160 Anbernic RG405M. That's it. The rest looks forgettable or will take up space in your home and will go unused because who has time to play on 20 different handhelds? Guys like ETA, Taki, and Russ are here to talk about them. I doubt they use any of them daily except for 1 or 2. They have families to raise.
I'm very particular in what I want from a handheld. I keep seeing these videos between Deck vs. Ally and I'm glad the Ally exists. Competition inspires innovation. But it's clear to me Steam Deck is better for most people like myself. Inferior hardware usually won out their generation. Nintendo has done this for so many years with inferior specs but cheaper prices.
I believe the RG405M would be the GOAT retro handheld if priced the same as the Miyoo Mini. I'm talking less than $80. I do wish it came in a plastic body to reduce the weight. But it's very close to perfect. It's got a 4:3 aspect ratio which is ideal for most games for PS2/GCN and prior gens. Only 640x480 which will make it sharp since many games were in 480p or below. No need to upscale. Got hall effect sensors.
I wish Valve releases a Steam Deck Lite similar to the size of a regular or OLED Switch. When I bought my most recent Lite from OfferUp, it came with a case more suited for the reg Switch. I eventually got one specifically for the Lite and I love it. I can use that other case if Valve ever releases a Deck Lite similar to the size of the reg Switch or to this Air 1S.
Redmi 1S
Just remember how brand new but with old featured.
But for this thing is different way.
In terms of battery and performance, how does the 1s compare to the 6800u Air Plus?
Is it worth the upgrade?
Im waiting for the 3s Lite 2. Should release in 7-14 days.
I still don’t understand idea of this devices of being too powerful. Most demanding games are much more joyful when u play it on big screen. For such small screen would rather play some creative Nintendo platformers
idk I still likethe steam deck for it's analog stick button/dpad and touchpad placement, and the fact that it hastouchpads, for shooters and desktop navigation it's so much better
and the ergonomics and comfort and screen size and price
I want something small but comfort and control is most important if you're gonna have a device that's already large
wish steam deck has a snes style dpad though, it's got the mushy modern style dpad that's only good for changing weapons and stuff
Fits in your pocket but nowhere near as ergonomic as the Steam Deck, and priced significantly higher and with pretty bad battery life.
If you would like to send me one of your spare one of these, you would make your biggest Canadian fan really happy (i.e. me!).
That box tagline, lol
"Real gamers know gamers... who play games because theyre gamers and know gamers who are gamers." Wtf
Fits in your picket no better than a Switch Lite. Which is to say, not at all lmao.
I like this device but i cant buy it in my country, so still rog ally which sell officially i can buy it.
Nice and humble review, sir.
Should've went with a 720p screen at 5.5 inches. Now running a non-native res that doesn't benefit from integer scaling kind of messes with everything.
A larger screen instead of that ugly bezel would have made it really appealing!
For real. I'd probably get this one if it wasn't for that
Yeah, they can even stretch to 6 inches on that chassis I think.
@rommelstrafe If only they could source one - all of these handhelds have weirdly looking screens because up to this point, nobody was really manufacturing high grade OLEDs and IPS panels that are 16:9 5-8"
Why havent I bought a handheld yet?
Because theres a new one that seems to come out every week. For now I continue to wait
Bro wait for 6 months or 1 year before releasing new device aya wtf
its hard to buy products from them knowing that nextweek will be another new product...
Any chance for a video running chimeraOS on it?
Too expensive $1030 and when it comes out it will be $1200 and the screen is too small
Remember when console gamers used to say PC gaming is too bulky and confined to a desk? It's amazing to see how far x86 gaming PC's have evolved, and where they go next...
You have the best wallpapers. Can you tell us more infos about them? 😁😁
How is the fan noise? ROG ally is pretty quiet, how is AN A1S?
What was wrong with the footage of gta5? or does the screen not produce greens properly
They got a new one already? I forgot the count. They come up with a new one weekly?
I don’t understand why people complain about having the latest hardware in fast production cycles. They seem to do fine with software updates. This is a perfect console for me. Sadly, I canceled my order and went with the rog ally. I rather have asus 1 year warranty + an extra year from my credit card company in case anything goes wrong. Shipping a device to china sounds like something I don’t want to deal with. With their small team, rapid production cycles and limited hardware(replacement parts) It would probably take months. With small issues like a faulty key I would probably not ship it and get stuck with a half working unit. I’m sure in 2 years I’ll want to upgrade anyway.
If there was local manufacturer warranty/repairs I would 100% get one.
I was gonna let you know that the air1s is 450 g. The air1s thin is 405 g.
Everytime I change my underwear Aya Neo is releasing a new handheld and the old versions are still as expensive as when they were first released. It wouldn’t kill this company to put some of their old handhelds on sale every now and then.
According to AyaNeo, the Air 1S weighs 450g not 405g. The Ultra Thin and Light edition with the smaller battery weighs 405g.
Just ordered the retro.
It’s literally the perfect size for me on my commute ❤
i ordered tooo. Its really amazing on that 18mm
If I could afford it I'd buy it 😂 good thing I got a steamdeck now.
I'm a huge fan of the compact size of this device. 720p at 15 watts sounds like the sweet spot for me. It would make a great companion device for my 405m. Thankfully I just got a new job so I might be able to get my hands on one of these!
This device looks amazing. Definitely considering pulling the trigger on this. I think I’m going sell my SD.
How is the reliability of these devices so far or for ayaneo models at least? I agree with some of the comments that it's almost every week that a new unit is popping out from different manufacturers
too small screen
I wish they would've test them with 16gb of RAM. I want to know how much performance we are loosing
You think you're slick, ETA. The version in the thumbnail is the one I'm really interested in. That's the one I want.
I'd rather have a potato screen and it come with xreal air glasses.
$802 for the base model... Thats just way too much
Air Plus mendo review please :)
The battery life is not good enough. We need at least 65w for these devices, like the aokzoe a1 pro.
69 minutes made me laugh too hard, I'm easily amused!
Too many ayaneo lineups and the sad part is they will stop updating their previous models and this makes them unreliable
They have good products but price and lack of service makes it not worth it at all accordingly to me
Updating? These are handheld Window PCs. What do you mean?
@@KindaKurtthe drivers and aya software
@@TheUltimateHacker007 it’s literally a PC. You will be able to use it even if Aya Neo closes up shop.
@@KindaKurt Good to know. Thought there was some aya bound software or hardware wich had to be maintained by the company as time goes on. Like the steam deck does
it looks so pretty and i like the fact that it’s compact and light, i have ayaneo 2 and gpd4 but both of them are heavy. but i’m refraining myself from buying this 1s version because of that ugly big benzel frame. still waiting for the day when the screen is larger but as light as this one
Seems great for retro games. But I wouldn't play AAA PC games on a 5.5" screen.
Not to mention the face buttons, way too small. And my hand is not even that big.
All I ask in regards to the screen is MINIMAL bezels, why has the RG405 been one of the ONLY devices to achieve this? =/
I thought that it doasent have any cooling when I heard the name
Is it working with an eGPU or the GPD G1 please?
This model is already old. They had announced it yesterday.
Pass
Too small a battery. Too much money. But still impressive. Really dig the amoled screen. Wish we had that on the steam deck
730€ + Taxes... No way 😮
Neat it exists but I wouldn’t want to go to smaller than a 7” display…just much more comfortable all around
i will say it does get bit hard to read text in certain games
And it has the same battery life as this video. Hard pass