Few more more ideas: If there are 2 drivers speaking simultaneously, you should pan them to their respective L and R channels. So Max to the left and Lando to the right, in this case.
As a Max fan and being a neutral F1 fan, this incident (lap 63) was Max'fault and I agre for the penalty. But Lando did a couple mistakes also, divebombing is a master move, only a few drivers can do it perfectly
@@emiliolabrin8302 The way trun 3 and the DRS zone is set up just encourages these kinds of moves, you can just throw it on the inside, barely make the corner while completely blocking the racing line for the other car. It is a problem with this track and many similar incidents have shown that it is a rotten corner to overtake cleanly. If the corner was less sharp and with less negative camber you could have a clean overtake and proper defending of position.
You can hear both drivers getting worked up. Max seeing Lando getting close, and Lando clearly frustrated that he had trouble getting past Max. Having lost P1 in the sprintrace the day before, might also have played a part, his mindset probably being that he wanted to grab the victory this time
Lando was getting frustrated because Max was moving under braking which is illegal. He also left the track and kept the position which is bs as well as
@supermccnasty4176 lando was handed race ending penalties right after the race which could have been given in a timely manner to resolve this issue but sky sports makes more money with the drama.
@@brandonsmoot4056 Drama sells better indeed. People are already talking about this becoming the same as 21 season, so people are already grabbing their popcorn and pizza, expecting more drama to come, lol
The Mclaren been crazy fast when it is light weighted (low fuel), while RB has slightly faster pace when they are heavy at the start of the race, it has been like this for the last few races.
Max with hes wheel off trying to avoid fast traffic on the left. And btw, Lando show us, thats he is unexpirienced with punctures. Max slowed down, but Lando goes full throttle for almost entire second sector -> Destroyed his tyre and half of the car with this
Lando had plenty of laps to get the move done he just got to over enthusiastic & inpatient claiming Max move twice was just a bit over exaggerated . Lando is in a God car & in a good place he's going to push Max to the limits he just needs to relax a bit & it will come to him he's a future champion.
My take on this is, if you use very agressive dive bombing tactic dont get suprized if your oppenent counters it with agresive defending. it can be countered easyly if you know its coming. so in this case Landos desperation caused him to be reckless and forced Max to counter it with equal force and this prolong tension caused a crash. To me it was inevitable. in short, Lando dicked around and found out.
Thought it was the other way around. Before any dives by Lando in lap 55 it's the first time he is close, Max changes his line before the corner mid braking, leaving Lando flustered out of t3. He probably got frustrated after that and tried the aggressive dives, Max kept aggressively defending until it was too far and contact was made.
Not sure if you were watching the same race, but the rules are their for driver safety... Max has again shown his contempt and cheats, how can you break a rule and expect to get away with it. Think you need to watch it again, let me know if you want the rules explaining, happy to advise...
@@edwardgregory9289 There's no rule that says you have to brake parallel to the track layout. There was enough space on the left, no sudden movement from Verstappen, it was like in slow-mo but Norris failed to look at where he was driving to. Way more space than Vettel vs. Hamilton at the same spot in 2018... and also way more than in Spain the week before when Norris pushed Verstappen into the grass. But yeah, Max is evil. Think you need to watch it again, let me know if you want the rules explaining, happy to advise...
@@alexsiniosoglou2179 Lando DIvebombed in Sprint race, where Max just avoided it. In race Max already knew what will happen and just defends more aggresively
I wouldn't even pan their radios left and right I would play one and then play the other it's so hard for certain people to listen to those at the exact same time
@@cy1764 and are we going to believe a random user like you who has never been to an F1 race before over a driver like Max or George who publicly said it was not max fault? Cmon tell us what they should do Armchair expert.
@@patriots101 ??? He's talking about a completely different thing, how Max has a history of divebombing (which is 100% true, even the biggest Verstappen fanboy wouldn't dare to say otherwise), he's not even talking about that particular incident.
Moments before the collision, was Max drifting wide to the left or......... "steering" to the left side of the track. That is the determining factor. If drifting, then the car was sliding and he did not have control with "steering" input ! We need to see a video showing............
He was steering for sure, trying to maximize the exit for the next straight (as you do) He judged the space wrong by a few centimeters, and this is why there was contact, and why he got the penalty.
see the Sky Sports 'who was at fault' video with Anthony Davidson - it answers the question of whether Max's multiple moves under braking was breaking the rules or not.
Peter Windsor said he looked at the onboard from Max and that Max was not drifting left. Alex Brundle said they were just 1-2 inches too close and that caused the contact. With these two being as frustrated as they BOTH were, and driving at such speeds and with sharp turns, that is a very, very small error to make by either driver. I think if Max had known that Lando had a 5 second penalty, he would not have fought him that hard in that corner. He would have let him go and ensure that he had DRS upon exiting the corner. Just a lot of little things going wrong to cause this collision.
you've got to add the onboard when they touched. Demonstrates perfectly why Lando needs to learn a thing about wheel to wheel racing like Leclerc and hamilton have
@@DropdudeJohn without parroting this narrative, just provide some concrete analysis because max stuck to the racing line and lando refused to use all of the track out of pure frustration. This exact thing happened to leclerc and max due to the angle on approach because of the natural racing line of this specific corner. Unlike Norris, Max drove the racing line and put two wheels on the kerb. Lewis did the exact same thing when he did the same with vettel. Lando refused to use the kerb as you typically would and squeezed himself into max cussing the collision. He simply doesn’t know how to hard race yet because he’s never been on that position yet. Not a biased opinion, just what happened that day. We accept and move on. Lando just needs to improve his race IQ
@@WinX_io I know you like to think you are a better armchair analyst than the real people who do it as a job but they already proved he moved left under braking illegally. Also reply if you like, but I won't be reading it, I have an actual life so I don't come back after commenting.
@@TimmsyTFG New to F1? Here's a pro tip: Sky F1 pundits are paid to dramatise the reality because that's how Formula 1 increases it's viewership. I suggest you look at their partnership with netflix and together how grown this sport. Next weekend watch how they constantly mention their relationship. Clever people I can't deny it. You are just feeding into it nicely. Watch someone like the legend himself peter windsor who explains it beautifully.
At least now Max knows that Lando isn't going to just leave the door open for him anymore. Maybe next time, Max might show Lando a bit more respect and give him some racing room instead of squeezing him off and expecting him to lift
And they are right. Lando couldn't pull off one single clean move. Faster car (+ 24km/h on the straight) and fresher tyres and still wasn't able to overtake fair and square. And now he's crying like a child after he was pushing Max into the grass in Spain last week (without getting punished of course). Twisting things up, ignoring facts just for the sake of hating someone is what's actually disgusting. Go back to Austria 2022 when Charles overtook Max. That's how it's done. No crash, no contact at all.
@@till5520 to further back up your point, Vettel took the same racing line as Max did yesterday when overtaking Hamilton in the same turn in 2018 and Hamilton nearly had contact with him in the same way.
dangerous in a bad way: Joffry Verstappen's do-or-die method is his 'wheel to wheel' racing ability - look at how he talks of those who challenge him afterwards: Lewis, Lando, Vettel, Ricciardo etc
This move happened multiple times in this race between other drivers. Its a common exploitation of a grey area, and all drivers yield even though they technically shouldn't have to. Since Lando decided not to react to the slow squeeze from Max, he earned himself a nice DNF, and a little lesson why people yield.
@@Selendeki Yea, Example: Previous race when Lando squized Max off the track at the start. Max had every right to stand his ground and cause an accident. He went into the grass instead. Lando might have come in 1st or 2nd if he had done the same thing here.
It was I fortunate but great to watch two drivers attacking each other like that .Maybe lando should have stepped back for a few laps saved hosctuers then gone later in the race .he was to close for to long scrubbing his tyres
until it is in a 90 degree turn with hundreds of meters of gravel all is ok. But if this 2 finds themselves aside in spa Francoshamps we will have some funerals to witness.
To me it looked like just a racing incident during an intense battle. Norris is complaining and whining a lot. He sounds very frustrated. That's not how you win a race. Max increased his lead, Norris will be even more frustrated now
They all complain of course. It's part of the sport, like diving in football. Verstappen bullies when challenged. He's getting bullied right back, and he doesn't like it. It's all fair, though.
see the Sky Sports 'who was at fault' video with Anthony Davidson - it answers the question of whether Max's multiple moves under braking was breaking the rules or not.
Rule 27.6 (added after Max defending Raikonen in Spa iic) no moving in braking zone. Max did a few times today....he's the best F1 driver ever imo and a great guy but Lando will need to wreck 1 or 2 Redbull cars before Max will let him by 🙃
That’s not the rule. It was merely a guideline that was removed and reworked. Now it’s a lot more general and dosent specify moving under breaking and depends on the stewards decision alone.
Lando's head is unfit for racing. He knows everything better, responds to his engineer after a first word of a sentence. Always thought he is a English Stroll/gremlin in mogwai wrappers.
Everytime Max sees that he's going to lose he immediately starts blaming the Car or the Tires before he loses. Once you hear him putting a blame on one of those just know he is not sure of winning 😏
Kamikaze Norris, just send it and see where it ends, like Verstappen when he was young. If you drive reckless, both, it's just waiting for a crash to happen. Anyway, I love it.
Max decided if he wasn't winning that him and Norris would crash. It was petty how it ended, good fun to watch until then. Norris was eventually going to get by if Max didn't interlock wheels under braking causing the crash.
Yes Max try listening to your own comments regarding dive bombing you do it constantly and always have done. The sad thing is you and your team cannot see this. Its one rule for you and a different rule for everyone else . Hypocrite in the extreme.
Amazing how diving up the inside has been Max his entire career, yet when anyone does it to him he whines like a byatch! But as ALWAYS max proves he cannot race wheel to wheel. Maybe redbull can purchase him another title or win!!!!
How rich that Max says " he's dive bombing...that's not a way to overtake" while he's been doing it for years. This is why I can't stand Max...he has zero self reflection. How many times has he run others off the track. He feels so entitled since he has suffered little to now repercussions since 2021. He really believes the entire track is his, lol what a tool.
all the mouthy clueless 'arm chair ' experts in the comment section ... none of you were in either racing machine ... ( so your opinions are worthless ... ) it's racing ... 'GROW UP ...
@@user-qo2iw5nk2p the for moving under braking also changed - as a consequence of Joffry Verstappen's dangerous driving. Sometimes you have to use the past to ensure fairness and respect of sporting repute, otherwise it isn't a sport - its f1xed.
@@user-qo2iw5nk2p see the Sky Sports 'who was at fault' video with Anthony Davidson - it answers the question of whether Max's multiple moves under braking was breaking the rules or not.
It’s max fault all day long but it should have been a grid penalty in to the next race not seconds ,, he actually tried to ram him off the road afte the impact,,
@toetiefroetiesnoetie but wait, you don't want to please english part of f1 community what a shame. I suggest new rule every time when there is a crash with English driver we penalize non english driver and no more podiums for non english drivers
@@toetiefroetiesnoetie 10 seconds was for moving under breaking causing a collision,, after the collision max drove Norris off the the road on to the grass ,, therefore he will probably get a grid penalty… next race ,,, they are the rules
Correct, that's why he got the penalty for causing a collision. Tho lando did also force max off the track earlier, that should have been penalized. But i guess they forgot about all that after the crash.
see the Sky Sports 'who was at fault' video with Anthony Davidson - it answers the question of whether Max's multiple moves under braking was breaking the rules or not.
🎯Norris was eager to overtake, as he is behind in the championship. He also wouldn't win the race, as he was too hasty on the approach, went outside the track limits, and would be punished with 5 seconds, with just a few laps left in the race.
I was starting to really warn to Max. - I was starting to respect him as a driver, for being better than the Reb Bull! More importantly, I started to respect how he'd matured on track in hard but fair race craft - Today I lost my respect respect for him!
This is racing, this can happen... of course it's Max's fault, but this has nothing to do with unfair behavior. I can recall many situations in F1's past where it was unsportive, this was racing where it wen unfortunately wrong. The outcome of this incident leaves the bas taste in the mouth, not the incident itself...
It's always funny reading from people disliking a person after one tiny incident. If you do that consequently, you will stand alone for the rest of your life. Just a little thing to think about...
@@kamukameh However, this is not a one incident, Max has a long history of unfair racing and I have resently been admiring him for the amazing, matured, hard but fair racer I thought he had grown into - so disapointing.
It was clearly Mazepins fault
ocons*
😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂
I'm sure Stroll had something to do with Max's slow pitstop
I could have sworn it was Ericssons fault.
Ericsson hits us so 5 seconds to Ocon😂
Few more more ideas: If there are 2 drivers speaking simultaneously, you should pan them to their respective L and R channels. So Max to the left and Lando to the right, in this case.
Thanks for the feedback.
You're absolutely right. Next time, in such a case, the two drivers or their race engineer will be heard separately.
As a Max fan and being a neutral F1 fan, this incident (lap 63) was Max'fault and I agre for the penalty.
But Lando did a couple mistakes also, divebombing is a master move, only a few drivers can do it perfectly
@@emiliolabrin8302 The way trun 3 and the DRS zone is set up just encourages these kinds of moves, you can just throw it on the inside, barely make the corner while completely blocking the racing line for the other car. It is a problem with this track and many similar incidents have shown that it is a rotten corner to overtake cleanly. If the corner was less sharp and with less negative camber you could have a clean overtake and proper defending of position.
Also, please can you put subtitles in as it can be difficult to understand exactly what they are saying?
@@Scenario8Awesome
2:56 "He just dive bombing... that's not how you overtake!"... coming from Max Verstappen, that's priceless
No literally
verstappen didnt overtake in that way like lando.
na u dombo Max divebomb the good way.
Max when someone uses his signature "You get out of my way or we crash" against him: 😮
@@oldfartgaming6273Austria 2019 ?
That red bull absolutely launches out of turn 3
It's a rocketship
Smart ERS deployment, most likely
Turn 4.
@@LucasJohnston94 Turn 4 is the one after the third DRS zone
Peter Windsor has a good analys. I reccommend to watch that
Peter's F1 knowledge is second to none. His points of view are always interesting, particularly on this race.
Biased Pete😂😂😂
Lando is that kid that tells the teacher that you are looking out of the window!
You can hear both drivers getting worked up. Max seeing Lando getting close, and Lando clearly frustrated that he had trouble getting past Max. Having lost P1 in the sprintrace the day before, might also have played a part, his mindset probably being that he wanted to grab the victory this time
Lando was getting frustrated because Max was moving under braking which is illegal. He also left the track and kept the position which is bs as well as
@supermccnasty4176 lando was handed race ending penalties right after the race which could have been given in a timely manner to resolve this issue but sky sports makes more money with the drama.
@@brandonsmoot4056 Drama sells better indeed. People are already talking about this becoming the same as 21 season, so people are already grabbing their popcorn and pizza, expecting more drama to come, lol
His frustration was at max moving under braking, which you're not allowed to do. Hence his penalty
@@rc-fannl7364 That is when F1 is fun, when there is tension and rivalry. Max and Lando will be chomping at the bit at Silverstone. ha ha
How os it crazy is that a McLaren has caught up with redbull
Tire wear....................... always a possible factor.
Not really it’s just on the 2nd pit stop max had used medium and lando brand new medium giving lando a edge on grip
He had a terrible pit stop the second time
Max had a comfortable lead till his 2nd pitstop. It should have been a easy win.
But hey, that is part of F1.
The Mclaren been crazy fast when it is light weighted (low fuel), while RB has slightly faster pace when they are heavy at the start of the race, it has been like this for the last few races.
Half the drivers on the grid have defended Max yet still people hating on him
even Lando said it was an racing incident and he shouldn't apologize
Gianpiero: Box, left rear puncture, box
Max: I'm gonna run Lando off the road first
That wasn't deliberate.
@@MartinRiggs1820 you are delusional
Max was struggling with the tyres it wasn't deliberate, trying to avoiding oncoming traffic
Ah yes lets return the favor like Lando did on Max last week 😂
Max with hes wheel off trying to avoid fast traffic on the left. And btw, Lando show us, thats he is unexpirienced with punctures. Max slowed down, but Lando goes full throttle for almost entire second sector -> Destroyed his tyre and half of the car with this
Lando had plenty of laps to get the move done he just got to over enthusiastic & inpatient claiming Max move twice was just a bit over exaggerated . Lando is in a God car & in a good place he's going to push Max to the limits he just needs to relax a bit & it will come to him he's a future champion.
My take on this is, if you use very agressive dive bombing tactic dont get suprized if your oppenent counters it with agresive defending. it can be countered easyly if you know its coming. so in this case Landos desperation caused him to be reckless and forced Max to counter it with equal force and this prolong tension caused a crash. To me it was inevitable. in short, Lando dicked around and found out.
Exactly. They all go crazy instead of using their brain just like Lando should've as well.
Thought it was the other way around. Before any dives by Lando in lap 55 it's the first time he is close, Max changes his line before the corner mid braking, leaving Lando flustered out of t3. He probably got frustrated after that and tried the aggressive dives, Max kept aggressively defending until it was too far and contact was made.
Not sure if you were watching the same race, but the rules are their for driver safety... Max has again shown his contempt and cheats, how can you break a rule and expect to get away with it. Think you need to watch it again, let me know if you want the rules explaining, happy to advise...
@@edwardgregory9289 There's no rule that says you have to brake parallel to the track layout. There was enough space on the left, no sudden movement from Verstappen, it was like in slow-mo but Norris failed to look at where he was driving to. Way more space than Vettel vs. Hamilton at the same spot in 2018... and also way more than in Spain the week before when Norris pushed Verstappen into the grass. But yeah, Max is evil. Think you need to watch it again, let me know if you want the rules explaining, happy to advise...
@@alexsiniosoglou2179 Lando DIvebombed in Sprint race, where Max just avoided it. In race Max already knew what will happen and just defends more aggresively
"ahh jesus....... ya numpty" 02:22
Hahaha I missed that, good catch 😅
i missed that numpty part..hahaha...
Thats outrageous! Thats 10 seconds to Ocon for sure!
"You dare using my spells against me ,Potter" 😂 nah...I love it, 2 hot heads made this GP interesting
Listening to this felt like a playback from a black box recorder before a tragedy.
Absolutely mental 😮
Its called racing 🏁 🏎
It's called cheating
Max saying that dive bombing isn’t how you overtake 😂😂😂😂😂 he goldfish memory
Bad loser
Max saying "He keeps dive bombing that's not how you overtake" had me laughing, doesn't like it when it's done to him but he does it all the time :)
Simply lovely 😂😂😂
Lando going 200 kph ripping the floor to shreds as per usual
I wouldn't even pan their radios left and right I would play one and then play the other it's so hard for certain people to listen to those at the exact same time
This!
Max saying you can’t overtake while divebombing is the funniest thing 😂
U know nothing about racing dude
@@hamizonharris5992Except, max does have a history of divebombing while overtaking. He was the most dangerous driver on the grid for quite some time.
@@cy1764 and are we going to believe a random user like you who has never been to an F1 race before over a driver like Max or George who publicly said it was not max fault? Cmon tell us what they should do Armchair expert.
@@cy1764dangerous?? Whats Indi 500... 😂😂😂 this is nothing
@@patriots101 ???
He's talking about a completely different thing, how Max has a history of divebombing (which is 100% true, even the biggest Verstappen fanboy wouldn't dare to say otherwise), he's not even talking about that particular incident.
Max talking about divebomb, seriously 😂
If the pit team didn't mess up max his pittstop, this did not take place.
"He's just divebombing, that's not how you overtake"
I think he should look at the mirror more often...
2:25 "You numty" lol
Moments before the collision, was Max drifting wide to the left or......... "steering" to the left side of the track. That is the determining factor. If drifting, then the car was sliding and he did not have control with "steering" input ! We need to see a video showing............
He was steering for sure, trying to maximize the exit for the next straight (as you do)
He judged the space wrong by a few centimeters, and this is why there was contact, and why he got the penalty.
see the Sky Sports 'who was at fault' video with Anthony Davidson - it answers the question of whether Max's multiple moves under braking was breaking the rules or not.
Peter Windsor said he looked at the onboard from Max and that Max was not drifting left. Alex Brundle said they were just 1-2 inches too close and that caused the contact. With these two being as frustrated as they BOTH were, and driving at such speeds and with sharp turns, that is a very, very small error to make by either driver. I think if Max had known that Lando had a 5 second penalty, he would not have fought him that hard in that corner. He would have let him go and ensure that he had DRS upon exiting the corner. Just a lot of little things going wrong to cause this collision.
He has every right to close the door there
He didnt steer left, as confirmed by Peter Windsor. Why nobody talking about Lando getting a 5 second penalty before the battle started?
Quite magic, thanks!
Max clearly knew what he's doing cause he didn't not cry after the collision
Funny how everyone blaming max but if it was the other way around they would still blame max😂😂😂😂
A person only gets blamed when their in the wrong, people that do not except responsibility for their actions are cowards.
@@edwardgregory9289 from what i saw and heard from max AND lando it was noone fault. Its racing this stuff happens man
Max talking about dive bombing hilarious
He dive bombed his way to his first championship😂😂
Seriously!!
tbh every champion driver was a kamikaze at some stage. Senna made a career out of it.
@@ray.shoesmiththank you!
@@jononioo2857 Lewis got a 3rd a few weeks ago you can put the t shirt 👕 back on for a day or 2 😂😂
Max complaining about dive bombing is hilarious. He is the most kamikaze when he wants overtake or defend.
Max always says something is wrong with the car and he has no grip... WHEN he's not turning
Is it possible to upload Max's (or both) onboard of the accident with throttle/brake telemetry
Verstappen already struggling with issues on the car. Norris should have waited for the perfect overtaking with DRS zone
you've got to add the onboard when they touched. Demonstrates perfectly why Lando needs to learn a thing about wheel to wheel racing like Leclerc and hamilton have
They touched because max drove into him in the braking zone
@@DropdudeJohn re watch the onboard
@@DropdudeJohn without parroting this narrative, just provide some concrete analysis because max stuck to the racing line and lando refused to use all of the track out of pure frustration. This exact thing happened to leclerc and max due to the angle on approach because of the natural racing line of this specific corner. Unlike Norris, Max drove the racing line and put two wheels on the kerb. Lewis did the exact same thing when he did the same with vettel. Lando refused to use the kerb as you typically would and squeezed himself into max cussing the collision. He simply doesn’t know how to hard race yet because he’s never been on that position yet. Not a biased opinion, just what happened that day. We accept and move on. Lando just needs to improve his race IQ
@@WinX_io I know you like to think you are a better armchair analyst than the real people who do it as a job but they already proved he moved left under braking illegally.
Also reply if you like, but I won't be reading it, I have an actual life so I don't come back after commenting.
@@TimmsyTFG New to F1? Here's a pro tip: Sky F1 pundits are paid to dramatise the reality because that's how Formula 1 increases it's viewership. I suggest you look at their partnership with netflix and together how grown this sport. Next weekend watch how they constantly mention their relationship. Clever people I can't deny it. You are just feeding into it nicely. Watch someone like the legend himself peter windsor who explains it beautifully.
At least now Max knows that Lando isn't going to just leave the door open for him anymore. Maybe next time, Max might show Lando a bit more respect and give him some racing room instead of squeezing him off and expecting him to lift
Exactly!
Yeah Lando certainly gave him room in Barcelona, heh. 😅
Max 10 points Lando ZERO
Horner and Max acting like a dive bomb is bad racing and “not very clever” is actually disgusting.
exactly! hypocrites!!
Almost all teams and drivers are like this, especially championship-winning ones, but aight.🤷
Watch Peter Windsor his analyse.
And they are right. Lando couldn't pull off one single clean move. Faster car (+ 24km/h on the straight) and fresher tyres and still wasn't able to overtake fair and square. And now he's crying like a child after he was pushing Max into the grass in Spain last week (without getting punished of course). Twisting things up, ignoring facts just for the sake of hating someone is what's actually disgusting. Go back to Austria 2022 when Charles overtook Max. That's how it's done. No crash, no contact at all.
@@till5520 to further back up your point, Vettel took the same racing line as Max did yesterday when overtaking Hamilton in the same turn in 2018 and Hamilton nearly had contact with him in the same way.
He is dangerous just like in 2021
dangerous in a bad way: Joffry Verstappen's do-or-die method is his 'wheel to wheel' racing ability - look at how he talks of those who challenge him afterwards: Lewis, Lando, Vettel, Ricciardo etc
This move happened multiple times in this race between other drivers. Its a common exploitation of a grey area, and all drivers yield even though they technically shouldn't have to. Since Lando decided not to react to the slow squeeze from Max, he earned himself a nice DNF, and a little lesson why people yield.
@@Selendeki Yea, Example: Previous race when Lando squized Max off the track at the start. Max had every right to stand his ground and cause an accident. He went into the grass instead. Lando might have come in 1st or 2nd if he had done the same thing here.
Thanks lando, the new whinner .
Could you post Russel's radio as soon as Max and Lando made contact, uncut, until the end?
george you can win this
Even with half a sec faster RB per lap car still had to treat Lando like he was Hamilton 😂
Good video but impossible to make out what either driver was saying when they weretalking simultaneously.
It was I fortunate but great to watch two drivers attacking each other like that .Maybe lando should have stepped back for a few laps saved hosctuers then gone later in the race .he was to close for to long scrubbing his tyres
Crashstappen mode on 🤣
The graphics were all over the place on this one
Is it just me or does landos engineer talk a lot on the radio
Like the messages aren’t brief
Lando used track limits to get close and than divebombs recklessly .... Clearly on Lando but prolly just hard racing
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
the "divebombs" did not cause the crash. the moving under braking did
@@tomateman9581 losers whine, winners win
@@worldcitizen9202 thats why none of them won
@@tomateman9581 Max won ..... he extended his championship lead by 11 points this weekend
It’s hilarious. They are talking to the stewards, not their engineers 😂
Wow neither screamed or waved the finger.
Strat 11 = Take him out
+5 second penalty for ocon
Lando was just driving like verstappen does and max was getting mad about it. Mqx forces people off all the time to overtake
Why is blaming everyone max then, if they were both driving like max
@@Samuel-em3nc the appearance of max moving in the breaking zone is probably why and the fia said Max was at fault lol
@@caidenseely2004 the FIA also gave lando a penalty for his failed divebombs, stop whining
@@mostlikelyjum8533oh so when he's speaking the truth he's whining?
@mostlikelyjum8533 no the fia gave lando a penalty for track limit violations.
until it is in a 90 degree turn with hundreds of meters of gravel all is ok. But if this 2 finds themselves aside in spa Francoshamps we will have some funerals to witness.
To me it looked like just a racing incident during an intense battle. Norris is complaining and whining a lot. He sounds very frustrated. That's not how you win a race. Max increased his lead, Norris will be even more frustrated now
They all complain of course. It's part of the sport, like diving in football. Verstappen bullies when challenged. He's getting bullied right back, and he doesn't like it. It's all fair, though.
Vestappen was whining the same as Norris did, so what's the difference?
Max always wines like a spoilt kid and swears all the time.
@@jonclayton9102 You're not a Max fan and that is ok.
@@DrDoohickey Yep. All drivers are human.
The most spoiled driver in the field Lando still needs to learn how to overtake
Max is more experienced but makes mistakes sometimes, lando is less experienced and hes learning, mclaren and rb are legit the same car
see the Sky Sports 'who was at fault' video with Anthony Davidson - it answers the question of whether Max's multiple moves under braking was breaking the rules or not.
skysports never are fair vs max, probable already know what they say before watching
I mean it's Sky🤷♂️
You mean that British channel ?
Lando does not profit learning some shaite about driving from his friend. I guess now it`s a bit late.
Rule 27.6 (added after Max defending Raikonen in Spa iic) no moving in braking zone. Max did a few times today....he's the best F1 driver ever imo and a great guy but Lando will need to wreck 1 or 2 Redbull cars before Max will let him by 🙃
That’s not the rule. It was merely a guideline that was removed and reworked. Now it’s a lot more general and dosent specify moving under breaking and depends on the stewards decision alone.
Lando's head is unfit for racing. He knows everything better, responds to his engineer after a first word of a sentence. Always thought he is a English Stroll/gremlin in mogwai wrappers.
Everytime Max sees that he's going to lose he immediately starts blaming the Car or the Tires before he loses. Once you hear him putting a blame on one of those just know he is not sure of winning 😏
Kamikaze Norris, just send it and see where it ends, like Verstappen when he was young. If you drive reckless, both, it's just waiting for a crash to happen. Anyway, I love it.
Max decided if he wasn't winning that him and Norris would crash. It was petty how it ended, good fun to watch until then. Norris was eventually going to get by if Max didn't interlock wheels under braking causing the crash.
exactly
Max " I own the road" Verstappen.
It was Kevin's fault after all
Yes Max try listening to your own comments regarding dive bombing you do it constantly and always have done. The sad thing is you and your team cannot see this. Its one rule for you and a different rule for everyone else . Hypocrite in the extreme.
Max can be so reckless. He'll put his car in the way to force you to back off or he'll just take you out. He's a menace when competition is tight.
Race ban for Magnussen
Why dint lando pit and head back?
Where is the collision?
Just before 3:02.
Amazing how diving up the inside has been Max his entire career, yet when anyone does it to him he whines like a byatch! But as ALWAYS max proves he cannot race wheel to wheel. Maybe redbull can purchase him another title or win!!!!
How rich that Max says " he's dive bombing...that's not a way to overtake" while he's been doing it for years. This is why I can't stand Max...he has zero self reflection. How many times has he run others off the track. He feels so entitled since he has suffered little to now repercussions since 2021. He really believes the entire track is his, lol what a tool.
Lando legit drove into Max, without a care in the world, even though Max gave him space on the outside. Lando is the dirtiest driver in F1.
i hope this is satire or that we watched a different race
@@ozzy9440 the max onboards prove he didnt steer left during the crash
There was a cars gap at first, and then there wasn't. Did the curb turn towards him then?
@@ozzy9440 watch the onboard.
Verstappen is still that kid from back in tut day…
Max Senna V Lando Prost...
max only give away if maldonado was behind him
all the mouthy clueless 'arm chair ' experts in the comment section ... none of you were in either racing machine ... ( so your opinions are worthless ... ) it's racing ... 'GROW UP ...
Lando is desperate type driver
Verstappen = crash happen
MAx fault...he just divebombing..like you did for 3 years
Your correct. But the rule has changed. You can’t always just look at the past.
@@user-qo2iw5nk2p the for moving under braking also changed - as a consequence of Joffry Verstappen's dangerous driving. Sometimes you have to use the past to ensure fairness and respect of sporting repute, otherwise it isn't a sport - its f1xed.
@@user-qo2iw5nk2p see the Sky Sports 'who was at fault' video with Anthony Davidson - it answers the question of whether Max's multiple moves under braking was breaking the rules or not.
It’s max fault all day long but it should have been a grid penalty in to the next race not seconds ,, he actually tried to ram him off the road afte the impact,,
So you want the FIA to not follow the rules only because you dont like Verstappen?
@toetiefroetiesnoetie but wait, you don't want to please english part of f1 community what a shame. I suggest new rule every time when there is a crash with English driver we penalize non english driver and no more podiums for non english drivers
@@toetiefroetiesnoetie 10 seconds was for moving under breaking causing a collision,, after the collision max drove Norris off the the road on to the grass ,, therefore he will probably get a grid penalty… next race ,,, they are the rules
lando is such a crybaby
max too
Cry baby can’t handle competition!!
LANDOS FAULT PERIOD
Max at fault simple as that
Correct, that's why he got the penalty for causing a collision. Tho lando did also force max off the track earlier, that should have been penalized. But i guess they forgot about all that after the crash.
see the Sky Sports 'who was at fault' video with Anthony Davidson - it answers the question of whether Max's multiple moves under braking was breaking the rules or not.
That’s fine, but it’s equally true that lando should have just moved over
Lando at fault simple as that
One is a driver, the other a spoiled brat who would rather force contact than actually be overtaken.
Lando's got 1 lucky win, dude. His dive bombing was the cause of this
🎯Norris was eager to overtake, as he is behind in the championship. He also wouldn't win the race, as he was too hasty on the approach, went outside the track limits, and would be punished with 5 seconds, with just a few laps left in the race.
Lando was out of control IMO
It's still worth racing for the position as they could challenge the penalty
@@benc182 I think drivers always need to finish any race as strongly as possible.
The
Vestappen becoming a mediocre con artist just with the shumacher
I was starting to really warn to Max. - I was starting to respect him as a driver, for being better than the Reb Bull!
More importantly, I started to respect how he'd matured on track in hard but fair race craft - Today I lost my respect respect for him!
This is racing, this can happen... of course it's Max's fault, but this has nothing to do with unfair behavior. I can recall many situations in F1's past where it was unsportive, this was racing where it wen unfortunately wrong. The outcome of this incident leaves the bas taste in the mouth, not the incident itself...
Get a live dude
It's always funny reading from people disliking a person after one tiny incident. If you do that consequently, you will stand alone for the rest of your life.
Just a little thing to think about...
@@kamukameh However, this is not a one incident, Max has a long history of unfair racing and I have resently been admiring him for the amazing, matured, hard but fair racer I thought he had grown into - so disapointing.
How clear it is that Lando do it all himself. No patient at all. Race incident. FIA have to look again. Lando was desperate. He was dangerous, not Max
Max fanboy detected, opinion rejected.
@@theepicracer1214hahaha right😂
Stop drinking, seriously
Alando should have bided his time 😂😂😂
Good ! the swindler Vestappen
Max his just dive bombing says the guy that dive bombs the same way all the tiime.
Lando's unhinged.