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I feel the most bad for the dad. Like he's already grieving the loss of his daughter, he tries to do something nice for her friends, and then some random group comes to attack and kill his daughter's avatar in the middle of it all. That must have been absolutely awful!
It wasn’t her dad. He might have been there, but he wasn’t logged on her character. The guild contacted blizzard and they put her character there. It was basically an npc.
Seth Green was involved?
as someone who was playing during this period of wow I appreciate the embellishment lol. It makes the game seem a lot cooler and more complex than it actually was
@dammer001I’m an EVE war veteran. I could tell you the thrilling stories of love, betrayal and adventure.
But that’s just about all I could do, because visually, I was basically just clicking through some spreadsheets.
@@AngryBoozer that should be the tagline for the game
I mean thats basically what trailers do as well
@@AngryBoozer THEY WERE SPREADSHEETS OF LORE, OF LOVE!
Frost hat gets bigger every time I can’t believe they put a scary movie 3 reference in here
Love how you’ve stylised this into some kind of old west stand-off
He's being held hostage, not a standoff............
And it's a Western movie style. There are hundreds of them, it's a whole genre.
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Glad you’re enjoying!
Yeah Yahtzee is great but ultimately he's mainly just game reviews. WHich are good but the nature of such limits the content in a way.
These offer an entirely different kind of content and his delivery is top notch.
@eliuwu3884 upgraded to the deluxe meal,
Our boys are makin' moves 😢
Cold Take was a really good addition, and The Stuff of Legends is actively tied with ZP for my favorite Escapist content. This commentator is hopefully definitely going places if he keeps up with the great narratives.
ZP is so successful because it has personality and Yahtzee was allowed to change the vibe/character as he changed (probably cause he was so popular they couldn't really tell him what do to). It felt and feels like a sincere work from a creator who's invested.
I really don't remember the other Escapist stuff having any in the past. But now it feels like the creators are allowed to do it. Like in Design Delve JM8 feels like he's trying too hard *but* because it feels so damn sincere he comes off as your dorkily enthusiastic high school teacher that really cared about his subject that you end up finding endearing and I like Design Delve more because of it.
You know? In a roundabout manner, Serenity Now assured her memory would be remembered. Not just remembered by her friends, but spread across a world to be remembered.
Unintentionally, they gave her an amazing parting gift.
I consider myself lucky to know about her. Even if the people who memorialized her were pieces of shit for crashing a funeral. I'm torn, entertained, and more than a little wistful at the thought. I hope her family and friends are well.
You're not truly dead, so long as someone still remembers your name... or, perhaps, the name of your WoW character.
This is so true. Had the funeral gone by, it would have been a small factoid that only the people there and a few players knew or cared about. This way, it's got a great story behind it, and can be told to our grandchildren. Like a mobster hit at a funeral, it has mass appeal (to us nerdy kinds at least)
I just wish there was a micro-holiday for that day, like they did for the March of the Gnomes. Wish they had granted the players request to place a NPC of her character at that location.
Yeah it sounds like people were mad at the time but if that statement is true, that amongst the things she loved in WoW was PvP... then yeah, a gigantic brawl in your honor is a cool send-off.
Tbh it's kind of cool how many "bounty hunters" managed to get ppl of that guild to not get their stuff back for weeks, driving them out of the game. Not only gives it a lot of material for psychological and ethical analysis, it also kinda warms my heart.
knowing the internet, it was probably still "worth it"
@preacher3958Learn a second word, you dolt.
It really shows there intent that they went for her character first for the video, its really nasty to think the items they cherished were taken after there passing.
When justice calls, there will always be people to answer because they want to. They desire to. 🤠
I love that even though it's a game, her memory was worth the time and the energy to uphold her honor. I think the western story set-dressing is perfect, considering this was an internet wild west moment. Yeehaw, cowboys.
This kind of story is why WOW gets used for so many studies! It's a fascinating little peak into people's psyche when they think they're immune to things. Great telling as always!
You know, ironically, it's probably lucky the crashers did this when they did. Not because Blizzard would take harsher action today then they were willing to back then, but because if happened today the name and address of the crashers would be uploaded to the Internet inside of an hour.
I'm not saying that the crashers would deserve to have their lives destroyed by the combined might of the Internet, but the world has changed since 2006.
"I'm not saying that the crashers would deserve to have their lives destroyed by the combined might of the Internet"
I mean, I wouldn't be sad if that had happened either. Going on the news for your 15 minutes of fame over it is especially gross.
Their lives? no.
As much of a bunch of jackasses these people were ... just being a dick to people isn't justification for ruining lives or death threats.
But I certainly wouldn't be adverse to the idea of hackers nuking their accounts and just erasing the guild from existence. or an organized griefing of them that lasts so long they all quit because all their doing is watching their dead body all the time.
It's a PVP server. What they did to crash the funeral was 100% justified and in spirit of what a PVP server is. Also since it's a PVP server, guilds are 100% justified in enforcing civility. That too is in the spirit of what a PVP server is. You do a dick move like that, then bounties to ruin your game are also justified. Taking anything outside of the game is not justified.
@@ObadiahtheSlim So if the trolls had crashed a funeral IRL would that have also been part of the game? If it is ok to crash a funeral in a game, then is it ok to crash a funeral IRL? Why not? What's the difference between the real world and the virtual world?
The problem with the "it's just a game, it's not real" way of thinking is that it justifies any virtual activity simply because it is virtual. Undertale made that point perfectly, when Sans berates you for doing something not out of any sense of moral compass, but just because you can. "And because you can, you have to."
SAO, for all its faults, also made that point. Just because something is virtual doesn't mean it isn't real. The pain that the parents and friends of the dead player felt was real pain because of the real actions the trolls took in the virtual world. To say nothing of what they did in the real world afterwards.
The book "The Cyber Effect" does a great job of pointing out why online actions are real world actions and why "it's just a game" is a very dangerous sentiment. Long story short, if you wouldn't do it IRL then you shouldn't do it online, and if you are able to do something to someone online you are equally able to do it IRL. Since the only real difference between the real world and the virtual world is accountability.
@@jamisonosborne It's a PVP server. Being a dick and suffering the in-game social consequences for being a dick are part of the PVP experience. If you find that unacceptable, don't play on a PVP server. All of that is enumerated within the PVP server's terms of service.
Now I wouldn't crash an in-game funeral because I'm not a dick. I would also gladly go kill and camp some dick who my group of friends had declared to have broken the code of civility that we abide by.
Serenity Now were pretty much screaming basement gremlins, and the shrieking from them after a huge chunk of the server not only decided to go after them for this, but even their own faction actively avoiding assisting them, was so good to see.
Red is Dead on a PvP server, but this is the kind of thing where you take a step back and walk away. Somebody died. This was somebody going out and letting people who knew their child say their final goodbyes in the medium where they first met, something they did not have to do. I played on PvP servers from Vanilla to about the middle of Wrath and, for the most part, PvPers showed a lot of respect and restraint.
Don't square up to a lowbie unless they step up to you. Don't gank a Hunter while they're taming a rare. Don't kill Quest-Givers unless its a life or death situation, that kind of thing. You're there to fight other players and prove your skill, not be a dribbling shitstain bullying the weak. Serenity Now was the pinnacle of the worst aspects of WoW's PvPer community, and I still get annoyed when people say they were 'justified' because it was a PvP zone. If you walk into a smoking area and I walk up and purposefully blow a lungful of cigar smoke into your face, you deserved it because you walked into a smoking area?
Couldn't have said it better
"They attacked her with Cold Blood, _metaphorically and literally._ " My rogue main looks onto that pun with pride.
I remember hearing about this story. This is what that Warcraft movie should've been.
It should have been the corrupted blood incident.
@@MarkPeckham The corrupted blood incident... The case study on the mentality of people who out of pure spite will spread a disease we could otherwise have stopped. Now we live in a world where that happened in real life. Proof that when humanity as a species inevitably goes extinct, we'll have had it coming.
Either or would be better than the current movie
Ah the days of if a load of attacks happened in PvP at the same time your framerate somehow hit negative numbers.
Tarren Mill remembers.
Runescape had some funerals, one father even uploaded videos after his son passed I cant remember the name, but was a sweet thing to see a community come together like that.
Probably helps that those funerals are not held in PVP zones.
"My dead son really loved just fishing near the chaos elemental, HE found the sounds of the damned calming"
The Corrupted Blood story is a good one as well.
One fun addition for the video: At the start of the fight, you can see allot of AoE (area of effect) spells used by mages. One mechanic in wow is that, once engaged in combat you cannot change your gear, so people using cloths were unable to put their gear on and fight back. I can't talk about the etical stuff but the planing? that was something else entirely
If you watch the original leeroy jenkins video, you see the planning guilds go through to do raid fights. The game didn't use to have so many tools it does now, so tight coordination was needed
You should tell the story of Fansy the Famous Bard, the guy who broke an Everquest PVP server by leading high-level monsters into other players before he was high enough level to be targeted by them.
Go go Good team! Fansy was a menace.
already did
Oh Jesus, I remember that one. Leading a conga line of Sand Giants on a path of destruction…one of the most infamous EverQuest moments of all time.
I never had the pleasure of running into Fansy. I was too busy leveling in other areas. But I had to respect the hustle of using the game mechanics for his advantage. Still I do blame Sony for allowing that sort of exploit to exist in the first place. It's a PVP server. Kill or be killed. Giving invulnerability to low levels is against the spirit of PVP.
These "stuff of legends" videos have quickly become my favorite videos that this channel posts. Can't wait for the next exciting tale!
Would've been pretty cool and forward-thinking if they'd had a bunch of well-equipped PVP veterans around as guards for the event.
They did. It mentions that they were facing a different direction and got caught unaware by an unexpected Flanking manuver.
From what I heard they did have guards. Its just that Serenity Now took an obscure route so they wouldn't get caught. Which honestly sounds in character for them.
Holy crap, kinda crazy to see a clip from a Nekrogoblikon music video in there. I knew those dudes. My sister was their live keyboard player and was dating/living with one of the leads for a few years.
Damn, that's the kind of story I would tell to some gaming-adjacent friends.
I'll have to send this to those friends when this comes out of early access.
Much respect to whoever had the idea of having the hat get bigger with every cutaway.
"WHO CRASHES A WAKE!?"
-Father Zaphord, Borderlands II
Frost, if you are willing to take ideas for The Stuff of Legends, look into how Konami attempted to copyright all rhythm/music video games
Didn’t they also semi-successfully patent loading screen games?
@@darkmooink69that was namco
@@darkmooink69 Yes, yes they did
I don't think it's particularly worth a video, but there was also Bloober Team patenting dual-mode, which was definitely not a "Shit, we couldn't get this out in time for the Wii U, CYA on the game cost" move. Definitely not.
One of my favorite stories about World of Warcraft is that when they introduced WoW:Classic (game servers where you would play on the vanilla version of the game) it was sold and heralded by many as a return to form and the olden days when the game was good and made to be played carefree with your friends. And yet, somehow, the players themselves turned Classic into just as miserable a grind as the retail version, to the point where Blizzard had to add a new item to the 15 years old version of its game to alleviate some of the worst issues.
Because the past is dead and can never be resurrected. The game was the same as back then, but the players... the players had changed.
When you say "Players had changed" I heard "Fused with and become indistinguishable from the beaniebags they were sitting in."
early wow was far worse in terms of grind because leveling was painfully slow, adhoc dungeon group finder didnt exist, getting money was insanely difficult and some of the zones were absurdly large with no real justification for their size
the entire thing was fueled entirely by streamer delusion
I stopped playing before they actually added Classic, but before that whenever someone asked for early mode servers, I argued that early WoW wasn't actually hard, only that nobody really knew what they were doing and nostalgia was kicking in. The way Classic servers turned out, I'm pretty sure I wasn't wrong. (The way current WoW looks from other players, I'm not sure I could enjoy a raid ever again).
Oh, THIS story. I read about this in a Cracked article about legendary dick moves in video games. Props to Frost for giving it a Spaghetti Western spin on it. And now I now where "Serenity Now" comes from; I always thought it was a "Firefly" reference. Was that Seth Green, and that other guy from Robot Chicken? Why were they being interviewed?
I don't play WoW, but I'll always enjoy this story just because of how ridiculous the entire thing sounds.
Pity internet shit-talking causes an attack on an online funeral so infamous it gets picked up by the mainstream, shortly followed by a quest of retaliation on the perpetrators.
I'm surprised that there are now two Stuff of Legends videos that I was around to directly witness (via internet forums.) Guess being an old-time MMO player pays for something.
This series, is just fantastic.
Well done to all involved!
I love this. The fact I actively was playing back then not on the server that happened on but heard about the funeral n the aftermath... damn, wish I could claimed some of them bounties back then
the fact this made history in the game she loved is kind of the best sendoff she could have wished for.
TRUST ME, im not surprised a group of griefers griefed an in-game event, strangely enough, meant for grieving (not griefing).
But im still on the funerary procession's side. What I would have done is offer to PAY more players to be guards.
And make actual warnings or even threats to any players Immoral enough to interrupt the proceedings.
Or very simply not enforce a god damn dress code.
I'd imagine that this story would have played out differently if it was 1 guild vs 100 fully armored players.
As Yahtzee said about this, "What the f*** did they expect?" Obviously, causing a massacre at a funeral for a real life person is just disgusting, but on the otherhand, it was in a warzone, more specifically a warzone in _World of Warcraft,_ someone really should've seen this coming.
Agreed
Trolls will be trolls.
@genjis5155 That's not entirely fair, there are plenty of Orcs, Elves, and dwarves who participated in stupid shit for attention.
@@legomaniac213 Not having played WoW, ever, IS Troll a playable race?
@@louisduarte8763 Yep, they are one of the original Horde races.
Sylvanas burned Teldrassil to the ground in revenge for the Serenity Now funeral massacre and I refuse to be told otherwise.
Ohhh this story~ this was trolling to a new level.
Probably my favourite Stuff Of Legends yet! Brilliantly told, great editing and footage, and a fascinating story!
Damnit I wanna know how it ends! Frost you should write a movie script for this and narrate it. That was fantastic.
They published it in the public forum, i dont know how they thought this would go well
Every 2-3 years we are subjected to a new video about this funeral or how scientists studied a blood plague of hakkar. Pepper in a spoopy karazhan crypt story and you've got yourself a new old new wow video. Rinse repeat
I played WoW pretty much from the start of the game. I never played PvP servers but everyone heard about this story. Being reminded of it now almost, aaaaalmost, makes me want to pick up the game again. But i've been clean since cataclysm and i'm not dipping back into that now.
There was a similar funeral in like.....Planetside, I think? Rival Group too the opportunity to send bombers while everyone was gathered, and got banned for major Griefing. Which, shows the difference between the two companies.
Yeah, as someone who has no will to go back into MMos and who was a runescape player way back when this does kinda show me blizzard at least respect the rules of the game, you build the mechanics and then leave the world to use them as they come, trying to enforce something as subjective as morality as a law is retarded in real life where there are actual stakes, in videogames it's a sign you have nothing but soup in between them ears...
Planetside sounds like trash but I guess the space operas I crave are more the EVE stories anyway.
no lol those guys got banned for being insufferable racists in all chat, the developers really dont care if you airstrike a bunch of people willingly standing still
their leader was buzzcutpsycho aka a massive loser who was so universally despised by everyone that certain clans kept tally of who made him screech in VC and ragequit the most
I adore this series and the narration. More of these please.
Duude! You are so damn good at this. Kudos to Jesse and Jm8 for the excellent animation as well. Well done all!
That framerate is nostalgic
Please do that time in eve online when a spaceship jumped into the wrong system or something and a massive space battle ensued.
I heard about this. Well I heard about the massacre, I didn't know about the bounties afterward.
I love the stuff of legends, all the stories you tell are just so interesting
Everyone saying it was foolish of the wake's organizers to do this in a PVP area just doesn't get it. So what if it's a PVP zone? So what if it's in a video game? There's this thing called common decency. You don't go to funerals in the real world and teabag the casket just because the cemetery is in the bad part of town. The funeral crashers got what they deserved.
Wasn't there an instance where the horde got a worldboss to stormwind. I remember the video said it was revenge for the funeral
Yes. That was where they lured Lord Kaazak to Stormwind from the Blasted Lands (think luring something from Florida to Washington DC). I don't know if it was revenge for the funeral crashing, but I wouldn't be surprised.
There is also the infamous event when someone brought a plague from one location to a bank, which caused an actual epidemiological study. WoW players can get creative.
While people are valid in saying holding a funeral in an active pvp zone wasn't the best idea. I think something should be said about how it seemed that only serenity now attacked. If every other pvp player at that time stayed away, it only shows how little respect serenity now had for it. They got what they deserved tbh
On the one hand, its distasteful to do that to a funeral.
On the other hand, holding a funeral in a game and expecting everyone to respect said funeral was very dumb and they should've expected this.
They seem to have. They had guards. They didn't expect it to be a stealth attack I guess, but there's also everyone else: if this was such an inevitable outcome, why didn't more people participate? Apparently most of the server either respected the funeral or just didn't care about it. If it were done again the two sides would try harder with their lessons learned.
Or you cod just not be a dick even if winterspring is a pvp zone lol cuz back in the day there wws pvp servers.
@@ItsHyomotobut also, very lackluster job on the scouting. Tssk, amateurs
I was ready to disagree until I watched the video and saw it was a PVP zone.
Like... no. Sorry for your loss but you can't dangle that good of a carrot in front of PVP'ers and expect nothing. I don't like victim blaming but if a bank openly decided to have no security you can't blame bank robbers for thinking it's an easy mark.
Can you imagine it elsewhere? Jumping into any sort of PVP based lobby and trying to tell the other team not to do any fighting? Again, I don't support the outcome, but I can't say I'm surprised. At all.
Yeah the dress code thing was a nice idea, but was extremely foolish without transmog being a thing. They should have all showed up battle ready.
The video Serenity Now made was the first I ever watched on the internet. I remember it in all its 144p glory.
The Wild West is a great metaphor for this time period. Now, it's evolved, just like real life, into microtransactions and compartmentalized achievement. Achievements ruined Wow, not in and of themselves but, because they helped people accept categorize fun into controlled experiences where they can gouge you every step of the way. OldWow was a place of conviction, not just transaction.
Really liking the content Escapist has been putting out as of late. I'll be honest, I wrote them off as dead a year ago, but they seem to have had a sort of Renaissance. Hope this trend keeps up.
Well, yhatzee has been carrying them for awhile, but since they've gotten sponsors and more money do do things like animations. They have a lot more opportunities for new projects
I love how the cowboy hat just keeps getting bigger each time.
Show me WoW and I will show you illogical action. Yeehaa
Subscribed for the ZP but now these are my favorite things that come out of the escapist, and the ZPs are as high quality as ever so that's really saying something.
Wow. Continuing the fasinating stuff that has already moved this to "must watch" status.
best series ever!
It took me too long to realize that your hat was getting bigger each time the bedroom scene showed up, eventually covering your entire head.
Fayejin has been immortalized by the funeral crashing event thanks to Serenity NOW. She loved Fishing, Snow... And PvP.
Is every The Stuff of Legends's intro on the same day or is each intro a different day?
He tells a story through to the next night and doesn’t realize it. Yahtzee realized this and decided to use the mistake to take an indefinite vacation.
I wondered how long it would take for one of the many wow moments to end up here
How about the story when a massive group of FF11 players tried to beat an insanly tough enemy. The fight went on for about 11 hours, several players actuallyngot sick and still failed to beat it
It's kinda sweet how this resulted in such a hardcore bounty that it actually resulted in some of the offenders quitting
I still can't believe this happened. The sheer disrespect of the attackers is mindboggling. I belong to the group who thinks everyone in Serenity Now absolutely had the bounties and harassment coming.
Correction: Cold Blood, in Vanilla, was a cooldown which guaranteed a critical strike on the next damaging ability. Many rogues, especially in this situation, would combine it with Ambush for a strong burst opener. Depending on gear, it could one-shot a cloth-wearing class.
This format would be great at talkong about the biggest eve fight.
Fuck I'm crying first thing in the morning over this story. TBH though I needed a good cry. Wonderful storytelling, Frost!
i like that the South Park clip was relevant and also from the WoW episode!
And thereafter, the last thing anyone in Serenity Now or their associates could claim to feel was serene.
I, like many others, have mostly just stuck around for ZP and such, but these little vignettes of gaming history and culture are one of my new favorite things. Curious if we'll ever get a video on WoW's Corrupted Blood plague, that's always been one of the stories I share with non-gamers.
Wow, this story actually makes me feel a little sick. I can't believe some people decided that just because a funeral was happening in a game that made it OK to destroy it. It was still a real funeral for a real person. You don't just hike over to the local cemetery and fire off air horns and paintball guns while stealing snacks from people. But I guess since no legal action was taken they were "right" about it not mattering. Even worse that they used their bullying as proof of why you should join their guild.
people have sex irl in graveyards, it aint surprising
Maaaaan the internet really is an internet-flavored place to be 🤷🏻♂️ Thanks for story time Frost 🙏 Cheers and hope you're as well as can be man 🍻
I recall first learning of this by fibding the SN video. "Yes, we know we're a-holes." Was posted at the end.
Also where i heard "I'm the Scatman" for the first time.
truth is truly stranger than fiction!
I remember this. Fucking great storytelling again, guys! Somehow someway, this made the funeral and Fayejin's memory more known and widespread
Also Frost's hat getting bigger everytime lol
I love this series so much, the gaming history lore we need!!!! Just as capitvating as gaming historian but with some style!!! You got the perfect person and voice to tell these stories too love it love it love it, keep up the amazing work!!!!
The storytelling is FABULOUS. Smooth, soothing, moving, a little funny. And perfect considering this was the time of the wild west online. I hope her family and friends are doing well. And I hope to see more content like this!
Misread the title and thought it was gonna be the wedding crashers. A couple having a ceremony at a special tree that was almost outside the map. Only for an uninvited guild to come charging over the hill, slaughter the procession, and the leader claiming the bride as his own. This is still a good story too of course. The contrast between the two events is amusing.
Still waiting for the Falador Massacre story
Serenity now Seinfeld clip is a once in a lifetime reference. Well edited
Its just fantastic how the Escapist is becoming better and better by the day
Thank you!
gotta love the "increasingly bigger hat" joke.
I never head of this. A sad bit of affairs.
Did they really need to kill the daughter's character? It's her funeral, she's being played by someone they KNOW probably struggles with walking from point a to point b. There's no good reason why she needed to die.
It was more than just one guild. And there was about 50 to 60 Aliance there. I was one of them. A dwarf hunter named Chofmo. I'm not in this video but the one serenity now put out you can see me and my sidekick Ghost (white tiger) during the slaughter.
I'm not sure how the month long kos thing would of worked back in they day considering you could just respawn at any graveyard with a gear durability penalty. The ending is probably so muddled because people either just left the guild after the backlash or just leveled alts until everything cool down. Still a good story.
So I guess this is where it became "insanity later."
Now I'm wishing they had all just smashed their computers instead. Dammit.
I remember this.
A friend of mine once said he was part of the guild that crashed the funeral. Said they did it because that lady was extremely toxic especially on the forums. Was like a year long feud or some shit between those guild
I love this series! Really great concept and I've very much enjoyed the stories you have featured so far.
Good times
Oh shit I remember this!
I was in this guild for a little while, I wasn't part of the raid but I had to leave after the whole thing went down because no-one outside the guild would party with me as long as I was associated
5:06 attacked with cold blood is just freaking hilarious.
After the EVE Online TSoL video it's nice to see the bad guys lose.
I just noticed that the title cards have 4 imps in the room but we only ever see 3 on screen at a time.
Where is that 4th imp and what atrocities are they committing under Frost's nose?
Its weird to me that as I read through some comments, we as a society seem to default well the victims should have expected people to be shitty. I'm not arguing this point so much as its crazy to me that the default behavior we should expect out of strangers is for them to be complete trash human beings at any given turn. Seems like such a bleak way to look at the world.
I don't think it's all strangers, but there's going to be a shitty percentage yes.
Maybe a small percentage, but 0.1% of 20000 is still 20 shitty people
"there ain't been nothing but funerals since that funeral"
and importantly the video they put out introduced me to the wonderful Scatman John.