2002 Tokyo Genevea was quite probably the most "pick up and play" friendly GT title out there, even more so than GT PSP because it completely omitted any in game economy. I still enjoy it here and there to this day!
I remember finding this game at some random third-party store as a kid and being super hyped because I thought I had found some kind of rare Gran Turismo game. The disappointment was fairly big when I realized it was ultimately just a downsized and repackaged version of GT3, but being older now I can appreciate the different cars and handful of new tracks. Maybe I should give this one another go... Great review as always :)
I had the exact same feeling when I got GT5 prologue, only that there was no redeeming factor to it apart from the kiosk mode I should mention this was some time after GT sport was released and I was just trying to find GT5 in any local store that I could get to
I never heared of GT before I had this, and because of not knowing what this Game is, I always wondered why many people loved GT so much. I thought about that game thinking, it is just boring, a few Cars a few Tracks and that's it... Grand Turismo is not that great. Today I know better xD
Absolutely loved this, the Pod race is unforgettable and the whole game had such a charm about it. GT3's career mode basically became 1 huge open experience if you'd finished this though, I'd always buy the Corvette C5R with the money you'd receive if you completed this before starting GT mode in GT3.
Surprised Tourist Trophy even got mentioned. That game is kind of a gem among motorcycle lovers. I'd love to see a proper sequel. Or better yet, Tourist Trophy within Gran Turismo. Just so I can finally have my actual Nordschleife trackdays riding among track cars. Don't think any game has done that yet.
A few random fun facts about GTC: - It actually has almost all of GT3's cars (if not all), in working condition, and many more hidden away in the code, some of which never saw the light of day until research was made. - GTC debuted the smooth automatic transmission "setting" seen on the GT-R Concept, SL55 AMG, Lancer Evolution GT-A and more (GT3 didn't have that setting implemented yet) - GTC also was the first GT game to feature movable car parts (spoiler and other attachments, GT3 didn't have that implemented either) - GTC is the only PS2 GT title to feature a single set of 3D modeled rims when in-race. On the Lancer Evolution VII Rally Car (not to be mistaken with GT3's Lancer Evolution VII Rally Car *Prototype*), which is a car that only ever appeared in GTC and never again after that too...
This is also the first ever Gran Turismo game that got translated into Chinese for Asian market, I own a transparent case first edition and black case common released edition.
Tokyo Geneva is innovative game at that time. The only differences between gt3 and gt concept was the leaves that moved after driving over them and that's was nice touch something new in gt
8:10 This game has all cars and tracks from GT3 hidden in the game files, they can only be accessed by using a garage editor (for the cars) and a memory editor (for the tracks).
I remember how I found this game. My uncle bought me a copy of The Getaway back when I was 14 and my parents were not too happy so I wasn't allowed to play it. I went to a local pc store and they had a second hand copy of GT Concept. I asked if I could trade The Getaway for it and they called the person they were selling the game on the behalf of and they agreed on the tade. I was very happy they agreed.
Already own this game but still cool to see a review on. It's honestly retroactively convinced me that I don't need to also get GT3, since I was raised on 4 and 2002 let's me experience most of what I missed
You will always be missing out of Snoop Dogg's legendary song he ,ade for GT3, even doing it for free because he loved the series. It even plays during the main menu!
@@TheLaptopLagger Its driving licence test and missions are not the same as GT3, take skidpad tests and complex strings for example, none of these had reappeared in any subsequent games and are very useful for practicing driving skills. Not to mention GT4's physics is a step down from GT3. It's up to you, I played both and they are vastly different.
I remember playing this back in the day. It was kind of weird, because I was expecting it to be the next GT and of course that’s not it. Most vividly I remember the small concept cars that make noises when you hit something. Interesting concept in a time before DLCs.
Imagine my surprise to be off work today and the first notification I see on my phone is this! Thank you sir! After this Im off to the beach here in a sunny (for once) south east of the UK!
6:14 Imagine seeing this R35 concept in 2001 that finally showed up in the market 2008 and got produced until 2022 ( Discontinued in most markets).
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“In Japan the game is the cheapest new PS2 game there is, retailing for the equivalent of £15, and we expect the same here.” From a 2002 Eurogamer article about the 2001 Tokyo game. If my maths are correct this would be about $46 Australian in 2022 after inflation.
This game was awesome. I can't count how many times I've deleted my save and started again because most of it's content can be completed in one sitting.
Great to see you are reviewing the Gran Turismo games again and glad to see your reviewing the games in the series as well, also may you please review Futurama the Game I have been rewatching Futurama again on DVD and Blu-Ray
afaik, the Pace Car was a "more realistic" interpretation of the "driving line" feature used everywhere else (including every other GT). It tries to maintain a 1 second gap ahead of the player, but it's really ... not that great at it. But that's why they let you turn it off: you're intended to follow it while learning the lines, but disable it for a proper attempt at a gold time. I guess Polyphony decided it was better than a ghost for that reason. Of course, it can sometimes be advantageous because you can slipstream the pace car and gain time on the straights. :P I don't think Polyphony really thought about that.
As a kid I went along with my godfather when he bought his PS2, and he let me choose a game to go along with it. I couldn't find GT3 but this one instead, so I took it. It was good fun.
Didn't knew anything about Gran Turismo but I loved Need for Speed. Concept was my first GT game and it was... okay but for a first game I didn't get it and slept on the franchise until GT6 got me converted to the sim racing genre.
The early 2000s was the era of a more free internet and alongside that was the legendary Napster among others. The reason I bring this up is despite the plethora of information available to internet users at the time, I never knew a GT Concept release ever existed until many years later.
I have a Japanese PS2 for GT Concept, GT4 Prologue, and GT3 (mainly for the proper use of the Diablo, besides using an Action Replay for my NTSC-U copy).
Hey ColourShed, I'd highly recommend Moto GP 03: Ultimate Racing Technology. I know I'm not a backer so this is probably gonna fall to the wayside, but it was made by Climax Racing, the developers who would go on to rebrand as Black Rock Studios and make Split/Second and Pure. It was the first game in the franchise to introduce street circuits, and I had a lot of fun with it.
Those were the days, I remember only paying £20 (well not me but parents lol) for GTA Liberty City Stories in the week of it's release. Yet nowadays you can get charged that + even more just for pointless cosmetics, crazy.
@@paulclynes9865 not my parents they were tight arses 🤣 Yeah I know, I play apex and some skins are over 80 quid. That's the price of a full game and all the dlc. The world's gone mad.
2:06 regarding the cost of the game i remember vividly seeing it for 50€, this is during the summer of 2002 in germany, when i went with my father to a store equivalent to a best-buy
I recently got a used Japanese copy of original 2001 Tokyo and it had an original receipt from the day of the game's release. The price was 3129 yen with tax, i believe. 2980 yen before tax. So here you go
Concept was the first GT i finished, when i bought It i didn't know of It's existence and... It was a good idea buy this game, I had a lot of fun even the game is short for a GT game, i still have the game and i still play It sometimes, the only thing i don't like us the fact i can't transfer the 10 milion credits to my GT3 save
The definitive edition is the Chinese one (with the Ford GT40 on the cover). It has all the circuits and cars (30 more cars than the edition you reviewed here) from all the previous Concept, is 60Hz and is in English. Good luck finding a copy for a decent price though...
The version he reviwed is also 2002 Tokyo-Geneva edition but just has PAL cover that is the same as Japanese 2001 Tokyo one. As a Chinese I can confirm even in here this game is not that cheap lol. Has 2 rather prestine copies of it, one is the 55902 transparent case first edition and another is 55903 black case one. 2001 Tokyo also has a Asian Japanese version without CERO rating on cover, which I have one as well.
Hmm music is mostly like PAL GT3 yes with some tracks not included (personal favourite isn't present = sad). And regarding possibility of SSR5 inclusion, the disc has 3.41 GB of content (possible 4.37 GB) so who knows why it wasn't there.
It only works in the PAL version of CT3 I own a PAL Ps2 which I use to play GT concept along with my normal NTSC Ps2 I tried it right after seeing this review and it didn’t work since they use different code I decided to order a pal version of gt3
What you got the license easy? This was such a struggle to me, and even to this day. The Physics in this Game are so different to what I am used to. For real, I was so happy to unlocked all Tracks, because I never thought I would be able to.
GT3 was the first GT game I got that was mine. Dad had the PS1 with the first 2. We spent a lot of time on GT3. Then GT4 🥴 we easily spent 1000 hours over a 4 - 5 year period until we eventually got an Xbox and got Forza
I'm in New Zealand, and back in 2003 it was my 7th birthday and I wanted to buy a PS2 game. I was looking at buying NFS Underground 1 for $70 or GTC Tokyo-Geneva for about $40 I think? So that was about a year after release. p.s. I got nfs ug because my older brothers wanted to play it too
Nice I was wondering if you were going to do this. As silly as it is are you going to do the prologues. I find while they are yes a prototype they are good extra content I feel to the games even if early builds that are playable. Also GT Concept 2002 is a great epilogue to GT3 and it's great cars. I mean the Toyota Pod is awesome to get to drive in this game for that one event. Also Autumn Ring in the GT3 engine was also cool to see as it wasn't available in GT3 before. The credits between this and GT3 was great and I think the unlock all licenses was a nice touch for GT3. When I forgot it was a thing I though it was some cheat getting all bronze but then I remembered it comes from this game offering that functionality.
Here in the UK I remember it not being full price. I can't remember what that price was. However at the time I got a promotion card through the post with a lower price given in error than the retail at launch. I managed to get it for that lower price and being chuffed with myself that they could not say no. They took the card off me though😅
I bought the Game back then without knowing anything about Grand Turismo... Years later I was really confused... what is this Game, it seems to be a speacially GT. Now, I am kind of happy because I have exactly this Version, the "Definitive" Version. But I didn't really played it that much. I am not interested in Simulation Racers or Cars at all.
2002 Tokyo Genevea was quite probably the most "pick up and play" friendly GT title out there, even more so than GT PSP because it completely omitted any in game economy. I still enjoy it here and there to this day!
I remember finding this game at some random third-party store as a kid and being super hyped because I thought I had found some kind of rare Gran Turismo game.
The disappointment was fairly big when I realized it was ultimately just a downsized and repackaged version of GT3, but being older now I can appreciate the different cars and handful of new tracks. Maybe I should give this one another go...
Great review as always :)
I had the exact same feeling when I got GT5 prologue, only that there was no redeeming factor to it apart from the kiosk mode
I should mention this was some time after GT sport was released and I was just trying to find GT5 in any local store that I could get to
Didn't expect to see you here.
I never heared of GT before I had this, and because of not knowing what this Game is, I always wondered why many people loved GT so much.
I thought about that game thinking, it is just boring, a few Cars a few Tracks and that's it... Grand Turismo is not that great.
Today I know better xD
Absolutely loved this, the Pod race is unforgettable and the whole game had such a charm about it.
GT3's career mode basically became 1 huge open experience if you'd finished this though, I'd always buy the Corvette C5R with the money you'd receive if you completed this before starting GT mode in GT3.
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Surprised Tourist Trophy even got mentioned. That game is kind of a gem among motorcycle lovers.
I'd love to see a proper sequel. Or better yet, Tourist Trophy within Gran Turismo. Just so I can finally have my actual Nordschleife trackdays riding among track cars. Don't think any game has done that yet.
@themanwhossleeps Not really close what I'm after. All about sims and games closer to sims
A few random fun facts about GTC:
- It actually has almost all of GT3's cars (if not all), in working condition, and many more hidden away in the code, some of which never saw the light of day until research was made.
- GTC debuted the smooth automatic transmission "setting" seen on the GT-R Concept, SL55 AMG, Lancer Evolution GT-A and more (GT3 didn't have that setting implemented yet)
- GTC also was the first GT game to feature movable car parts (spoiler and other attachments, GT3 didn't have that implemented either)
- GTC is the only PS2 GT title to feature a single set of 3D modeled rims when in-race. On the Lancer Evolution VII Rally Car (not to be mistaken with GT3's Lancer Evolution VII Rally Car *Prototype*), which is a car that only ever appeared in GTC and never again after that too...
Plus, GTC is the only Game that has a Blue Zonda. Every other GT Game has a Silver Zonda (excluding the LM Race Car, of course)
@@NexxOmega True that!
@submaniac93 fancy seeing you here, I recognize you from MattJ's channel. Thanks for your research into the GT games, it is super interesting!
@@LMPDragon :D
@@NexxOmega So, blue Zonda is basically the yellow Evo of GTC
High as hell and this shows up in my subscriptions
What a hero
This + the new gran turismo videos from digital foundry is just the best combination!
Definitely!!!!
This is also the first ever Gran Turismo game that got translated into Chinese for Asian market, I own a transparent case first edition and black case common released edition.
Tokyo Geneva is innovative game at that time. The only differences between gt3 and gt concept was the leaves that moved after driving over them and that's was nice touch something new in gt
8:10 This game has all cars and tracks from GT3 hidden in the game files, they can only be accessed by using a garage editor (for the cars) and a memory editor (for the tracks).
The GOAT of retro racer reviewers.
First learned this game existed yesterday via Digital Foundry, now you’ve uploaded this. Good timing!
I remember how I found this game. My uncle bought me a copy of The Getaway back when I was 14 and my parents were not too happy so I wasn't allowed to play it. I went to a local pc store and they had a second hand copy of GT Concept. I asked if I could trade The Getaway for it and they called the person they were selling the game on the behalf of and they agreed on the tade. I was very happy they agreed.
Already own this game but still cool to see a review on. It's honestly retroactively convinced me that I don't need to also get GT3, since I was raised on 4 and 2002 let's me experience most of what I missed
Uh, GT3 is actually much more than GT2002 apart from new cars, especially gruelling license tests and arcade modes.
You will always be missing out of Snoop Dogg's legendary song he ,ade for GT3, even doing it for free because he loved the series. It even plays during the main menu!
@@sunray2818 eh, GT4 has plenty to offer for me.
@@TheLaptopLagger Its driving licence test and missions are not the same as GT3, take skidpad tests and complex strings for example, none of these had reappeared in any subsequent games and are very useful for practicing driving skills. Not to mention GT4's physics is a step down from GT3. It's up to you, I played both and they are vastly different.
I remember playing this back in the day. It was kind of weird, because I was expecting it to be the next GT and of course that’s not it. Most vividly I remember the small concept cars that make noises when you hit something. Interesting concept in a time before DLCs.
In 2002 new games here in the uk would be about £40. This was £25-£30. Remember getting it because of how cheap it was
i have the original and kept the ticket inside the box and its 29.99€ in Portugal
I think it was rrp at 24.99 but was soon down to 19.99
Imagine my surprise to be off work today and the first notification I see on my phone is this! Thank you sir! After this Im off to the beach here in a sunny (for once) south east of the UK!
Man if GT3 was released in 2002 it would of been even more so the best Gran Turismo ever made.
YES MATE. Been hoping for a review on this. Now I wonder... gt4 prologue as a separate review or lumped into the main gt4 review?
I live and breathe for these Toyota Pod races! Most fun experience I had with Gran Turismo
Gran Turismo 3 is the title that made me love drift. Loved going sideways
6:14 Imagine seeing this R35 concept in 2001 that finally showed up in the market 2008 and got produced until 2022 ( Discontinued in most markets).
“In Japan the game is the cheapest new PS2 game there is, retailing for the equivalent of £15, and we expect the same here.”
From a 2002 Eurogamer article about the 2001 Tokyo game.
If my maths are correct this would be about $46 Australian in 2022 after inflation.
This game was awesome. I can't count how many times I've deleted my save and started again because most of it's content can be completed in one sitting.
Great to see you are reviewing the Gran Turismo games again and glad to see your reviewing the games in the series as well, also may you please review Futurama the Game I have been rewatching Futurama again on DVD and Blu-Ray
afaik, the Pace Car was a "more realistic" interpretation of the "driving line" feature used everywhere else (including every other GT).
It tries to maintain a 1 second gap ahead of the player, but it's really ... not that great at it.
But that's why they let you turn it off: you're intended to follow it while learning the lines, but disable it for a proper attempt at a gold time.
I guess Polyphony decided it was better than a ghost for that reason.
Of course, it can sometimes be advantageous because you can slipstream the pace car and gain time on the straights. :P
I don't think Polyphony really thought about that.
This was a fun GT you could just jump into and play. I remember it would give you something like 10 million credits which was so damn good.
so many cool GT games that never came out in NA such a shame.
This and the Digital Foundry retrospectives are great fun
It really stinks that the US never got this, I would have loved to play it,I have GT3,it was the first Gran Turismo I ever played
Look at this cover, who can say no to this game, it is awesome 😅
As a kid I went along with my godfather when he bought his PS2, and he let me choose a game to go along with it. I couldn't find GT3 but this one instead, so I took it. It was good fun.
Would be cool for you to review more region exclusive games like F1 and WRC games from 2002-05 especially my favourite Rally Evolved.
Nice! Nice to see you again!
Loving this channel
great vid as always :D
This literally was my first ever video game. And what a damn good game it was.
Sold it back in the day, but I managed to get my hands on it again.
Didn't knew anything about Gran Turismo but I loved Need for Speed. Concept was my first GT game and it was... okay but for a first game I didn't get it and slept on the franchise until GT6 got me converted to the sim racing genre.
The early 2000s was the era of a more free internet and alongside that was the legendary Napster among others. The reason I bring this up is despite the plethora of information available to internet users at the time, I never knew a GT Concept release ever existed until many years later.
What an interesting title in the Gran Turismo franchise
As a North American gamer This game is one of the reasons why I have a PAL ps2 in my collection
I have a Japanese PS2 for GT Concept, GT4 Prologue, and GT3 (mainly for the proper use of the Diablo, besides using an Action Replay for my NTSC-U copy).
@@bboy7531 In fact, GT Concept 2002's Asian Chinese version also supports English, but that copy is much rarer than Japanese one.
@@sunray2818 Ah nice! Yeah, it is really rare!
Literally the first game I played when I got my PS2 when I was 3 years old.
Hey ColourShed, I'd highly recommend Moto GP 03: Ultimate Racing Technology. I know I'm not a backer so this is probably gonna fall to the wayside, but it was made by Climax Racing, the developers who would go on to rebrand as Black Rock Studios and make Split/Second and Pure. It was the first game in the franchise to introduce street circuits, and I had a lot of fun with it.
I think I paid around £15 for gt concept when it came out. I remember it not being the price of a full game.
Those were the days, I remember only paying £20 (well not me but parents lol) for GTA Liberty City Stories in the week of it's release.
Yet nowadays you can get charged that + even more just for pointless cosmetics, crazy.
@@paulclynes9865 not my parents they were tight arses 🤣
Yeah I know, I play apex and some skins are over 80 quid. That's the price of a full game and all the dlc. The world's gone mad.
Hey, great review! Always love watching my favorite reviewers tackle more obscure titles. They're my favorite thing about the PS2.
2:06 regarding the cost of the game i remember vividly seeing it for 50€, this is during the summer of 2002 in germany, when i went with my father to a store equivalent to a best-buy
new colourshed NEW COLOURSHED
My first GT game when I was little lmao, absolutely loved it. Great way for me to get introduced to the series
Watching this put me in the mood to play GT3. I've just entered the early grind part of the game.
No one talks crap about my boy the Toyota Pod
Awesome as usual!
I got my copy of this game brand new at a Parklea Market vendor in the early 2000s, I still have my copy to this day.
I recently got a used Japanese copy of original 2001 Tokyo and it had an original receipt from the day of the game's release.
The price was 3129 yen with tax, i believe.
2980 yen before tax.
So here you go
The Pod car is so cute dude, i need it IRL
Nice video! Just out of interest are you playing with controller or a wheel?
Well, this was unexpected. GT4 Prologue video when?
My 1st ever Gran Turismo game 💙💯
I just got this recently! Had never seen it before
Concept was the first GT i finished, when i bought It i didn't know of It's existence and... It was a good idea buy this game, I had a lot of fun even the game is short for a GT game, i still have the game and i still play It sometimes, the only thing i don't like us the fact i can't transfer the 10 milion credits to my GT3 save
I smacked the notification for this
The definitive edition is the Chinese one (with the Ford GT40 on the cover). It has all the circuits and cars (30 more cars than the edition you reviewed here) from all the previous Concept, is 60Hz and is in English. Good luck finding a copy for a decent price though...
The version he reviwed is also 2002 Tokyo-Geneva edition but just has PAL cover that is the same as Japanese 2001 Tokyo one. As a Chinese I can confirm even in here this game is not that cheap lol. Has 2 rather prestine copies of it, one is the 55902 transparent case first edition and another is 55903 black case one. 2001 Tokyo also has a Asian Japanese version without CERO rating on cover, which I have one as well.
1:38 If it was GT4, it would've been instant fail.
*Yello - Oh Yeah intensifies*
Hmm music is mostly like PAL GT3 yes with some tracks not included (personal favourite isn't present = sad).
And regarding possibility of SSR5 inclusion, the disc has 3.41 GB of content (possible 4.37 GB) so who knows why it wasn't there.
Does the 10 million credit reward work in the NTSC version of GT3? Or is it only for the PAL version only?
It only works in the PAL version of CT3 I own a PAL Ps2 which I use to play GT concept along with my normal NTSC Ps2 I tried it right after seeing this review and it didn’t work since they use different code I decided to order a pal version of gt3
The safety car's iconic look is only outdone by iconicly bad its implementation is.
👀 my first gran turismo and first ps2 game
Let's gooo!!
Gran Turismo Concept: 2002 Tokyo-Geneva Convention
Can't wait for the burnout paradise review I'm playing it rn while watching the review
will you also be reviewing GT 4 concept and 5 prologue?
Those Toasters on 4 Wheels would fit better in a slot casino
What you got the license easy?
This was such a struggle to me, and even to this day. The Physics in this Game are so different to what I am used to.
For real, I was so happy to unlocked all Tracks, because I never thought I would be able to.
GT3 was the first GT game I got that was mine. Dad had the PS1 with the first 2. We spent a lot of time on GT3. Then GT4 🥴 we easily spent 1000 hours over a 4 - 5 year period until we eventually got an Xbox and got Forza
As an American, I had no idea these released outside of Japan.
Haven't got a chance to play the GT Concept games... I'm in Canada so they were never sold here. Really want to try them though! 😊
Now this is pod racing
I wish there would be a new game with a focus on concept cars, I miss them being relevant
from memory, I think the game was $69 here in NZ, compared to say $99 or $109 for a full release.
I own this game and didn't realize it worth a little but of money now
I'm in New Zealand, and back in 2003 it was my 7th birthday and I wanted to buy a PS2 game. I was looking at buying NFS Underground 1 for $70 or GTC Tokyo-Geneva for about $40 I think? So that was about a year after release.
p.s. I got nfs ug because my older brothers wanted to play it too
Nice I was wondering if you were going to do this. As silly as it is are you going to do the prologues. I find while they are yes a prototype they are good extra content I feel to the games even if early builds that are playable. Also GT Concept 2002 is a great epilogue to GT3 and it's great cars. I mean the Toyota Pod is awesome to get to drive in this game for that one event. Also Autumn Ring in the GT3 engine was also cool to see as it wasn't available in GT3 before. The credits between this and GT3 was great and I think the unlock all licenses was a nice touch for GT3. When I forgot it was a thing I though it was some cheat getting all bronze but then I remembered it comes from this game offering that functionality.
Ah here in the UK I belive it was £24.99 which is what I paid for it at gamestation (rip and fuck you CEX for killing the market!)
Here in the UK I remember it not being full price. I can't remember what that price was. However at the time I got a promotion card through the post with a lower price given in error than the retail at launch. I managed to get it for that lower price and being chuffed with myself that they could not say no. They took the card off me though😅
Press information for EU release also supported this theory, it's aimed for people who want to have a brief teaste of what GT is like.
I bought the Game back then without knowing anything about Grand Turismo... Years later I was really confused... what is this Game, it seems to be a speacially GT.
Now, I am kind of happy because I have exactly this Version, the "Definitive" Version.
But I didn't really played it that much. I am not interested in Simulation Racers or Cars at all.
it wasn't just a gran turismo for me. it was MY gran turismo.
I have this one!
I got this :) pretty cool back in the day, like a DLC. Would be considered cash grab today
It's marketing price back then was about half the price of GT3.
Its weird that the gtr was a concept all way back in 01 and in 22 its still in production selling
2:01 XD The first time I see this in a GT game.
I bought this back in 2003. I think i paid around 30 euro for it.
I’m watching this at 4am who needs sleep right
You should review Sega GT Racing 2002 that games pretty fun
Can you do a Drive Club review?
Wtf, im now just hearing about this game? 😳😲
Grid lengeds is out now
Never knew this existed
What is the sound track at the beggining?
I paid £29.00 for this game in 2002, from my local grocery supermarket. (Asda)
Do review on GT4 Prologue🤝
I kept the ticket inside the box and its 29.99€ in Portugal