1:20 man, i agree to 100%. Why is this an issue? When i compare this in complexity and size versus cost with a game like Dragon Age - why are the battle results not available? Why are there no statistics tools? Why is the guild chat such a miserable, linear mess, able to store only a very limited amount of letters?
The problem of Kayla is her unusual placement: in Osh fights you should be interested in placing her on 2nd spot, which limits choices. I believe Rufus - Kayla - Judge - Aidan - Dorian should perform better.
Her case is similar to Yasmine which also can spend some time in front of tank, the only difference is that Kayla doesn't damage herself against multiple defensive spheres like Yasmine do. Again, armor and/or magic defense matters, and at the current period of game Kayla can't have so good amount of them for tanking. If, for example, Kayla had Mara or Oliver patronage, her chances for tanking against high level Osh would be much better.
She seems to be quite good against Vadjar, she helped me get him from 140 to 150 with her only at 45k power, she jumped behind and set off his first attack, as expected squashed like a bug but at least spared the rest of the team and let 120k Yas with Arbus finish him. The group beside Yas is not that high either in intervals of 50-60k.
Actually I don't think the spheres can be attacked when they are in the back (even by pets like Fenris who hits all enemies). It should also be noted that Yasmine when she uses her ability teleports in front of Osh rather then behind him
WoaW ! GG on 160 OSH ! his stats are TERRIFYING to even look at !! I don't even know how can a guild kill it Oo (I have 35/40 Million on 130 OSH each week, does it feel good to you? I'm first on my guild but don't have anyone else to compare my damage with)
The worst part of fb/web then, is that u can't practice... You mean like you can't for anything at all in mobile? HW is restrictive on purpose to deprive you because guess what... you can BUY your way into more attempts and playtime
After 130 the UI doesn't show a Higher level Osh. For proof, you can take a look at the level 130 boss health and see it's 202mil at max. The video is showing a fight against an Osh with 447million max health, which matches up to the level 150 Osh difficulty. Again, you can go and look at this info in game in the "select difficulty" area in asgard
one day you said to me you don't hav to spend more of 10 k to be in gold ...kayla and Aidan already red +2 so no you don't have when you work for hero wars otherwise you have
I am not impressed with the performance you showed of this team to use on osh. While you can use it for some damage as part of your extra hero teams, I do not think it is worth the effort to level these heroes for Osh.
I totally agree with the rant, but, to play devil's advocate... If they host on a platform like AWS, then all the data that is not necessary for the game and player's account to function going forward that they store will end up being excess cost. So they only keep the data that is necessary for everything to function properly and purge the rest. Also, given the importance of Osh and the amount of testing that players would likely do, this would also likely increase their costs as they likely have to pay for the amount of Bandwidth they have available at any one time, and they would need to buy more bandwidth to hand the additional load. These are also likely the reasons they unofficially turn a blind eye to a 3rd party plugin like HWA, which only scrapes data and stores it on the client, not adding to bandwidth or storage on their side, where as they crack down on a 3rd party like HWS, as that injected code to run simulations on the server side, thus increasing bandwidth usage and also likely storage.
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Love the rant Charlie, You are so spot on about why we cannot see last weeks Osh battles and train for this event.
It’s so frustrating not being able to see what teams I used each week, I always forget to take a screenshot. It’s just laziness to not have this.
I suggest using a spread sheet, instead of screen shots, but choose what makes you happy.
I am in complete agreement with your rant, Charlie. Spot on - completely correct!
Congrats!
omg I have been SO ANNOYED I can't see how our teams did vs Osh after the end of the Boss Fight period!!!
I think she also has good potential against Vadjar. She jumped on the other side of him and started doing the attacks.
Kayla + Ishmael would be amazing against Vadjar (Ishmael forces Vadjar to miss, btw.!)
100% on the boss fight logs.
1:20 man, i agree to 100%. Why is this an issue? When i compare this in complexity and size versus cost with a game like Dragon Age - why are the battle results not available? Why are there no statistics tools? Why is the guild chat such a miserable, linear mess, able to store only a very limited amount of letters?
Strong analysis, Charlie ;-)
The problem of Kayla is her unusual placement: in Osh fights you should be interested in placing her on 2nd spot, which limits choices. I believe Rufus - Kayla - Judge - Aidan - Dorian should perform better.
I think this video shows that her placement doesn't matter, if you can keep her healthy she's always in front tanking.
Her case is similar to Yasmine which also can spend some time in front of tank, the only difference is that Kayla doesn't damage herself against multiple defensive spheres like Yasmine do. Again, armor and/or magic defense matters, and at the current period of game Kayla can't have so good amount of them for tanking. If, for example, Kayla had Mara or Oliver patronage, her chances for tanking against high level Osh would be much better.
the kittie Julius would crush osh by himself :P
She seems to be quite good against Vadjar, she helped me get him from 140 to 150 with her only at 45k power, she jumped behind and set off his first attack, as expected squashed like a bug but at least spared the rest of the team and let 120k Yas with Arbus finish him. The group beside Yas is not that high either in intervals of 50-60k.
Jump behind Vadjar?? That seems unfair that she can jump him, while Luther can't.
Thanks Charlie
The onr thing I hate about the kayla aiden stuff is that once one dies the other is dead
Actually I don't think the spheres can be attacked when they are in the back (even by pets like Fenris who hits all enemies). It should also be noted that Yasmine when she uses her ability teleports in front of Osh rather then behind him
You are correct. They become shielded, and are immune [or something like that] when covered in a dark shell.
WoaW ! GG on 160 OSH ! his stats are TERRIFYING to even look at !! I don't even know how can a guild kill it Oo
(I have 35/40 Million on 130 OSH each week, does it feel good to you? I'm first on my guild but don't have anyone else to compare my damage with)
charlie, you say this is vs. 150 but the shot you took of the teams damage shows osh as 130
The worst part of fb/web then, is that u can't practice... You mean like you can't for anything at all in mobile?
HW is restrictive on purpose to deprive you because guess what... you can BUY your way into more attempts and playtime
When they come to Mobile then I'm hoping they are in there own class, but they will probably be Undead or Mystic
Congrats on your guild defeating Osh 160🎉
he said 150
@@SubZeroMG4u mistyped, meant 150
the fight was against lvl 150 osh, but the stats are against 130?
just curious where are you getting lvl 150? video at 3:00 min mark shows 130 Osh as well. did i miss something?
After 130 the UI doesn't show a Higher level Osh. For proof, you can take a look at the level 130 boss health and see it's 202mil at max. The video is showing a fight against an Osh with 447million max health, which matches up to the level 150 Osh difficulty. Again, you can go and look at this info in game in the "select difficulty" area in asgard
@@HeroWarsCentral ah, ok. now i get it. thanks. means, after lvl 130, every boss shows up as 130 as well.
Galahad Ginger over Astaroth Artemis. Maybe. I love my redhead.
one day you said to me you don't hav to spend more of 10 k to be in gold ...kayla and Aidan already red +2 so no you don't have when you work for hero wars otherwise you have
ishmael for the crit chance
🎉
I am not impressed with the performance you showed of this team to use on osh. While you can use it for some damage as part of your extra hero teams, I do not think it is worth the effort to level these heroes for Osh.
Charlie! Charlie! He's our Man! If he can't do it, ..., well no one is really surprised.... It's Charlie....
hopefuuly they fix up
I totally agree with the rant, but, to play devil's advocate... If they host on a platform like AWS, then all the data that is not necessary for the game and player's account to function going forward that they store will end up being excess cost. So they only keep the data that is necessary for everything to function properly and purge the rest.
Also, given the importance of Osh and the amount of testing that players would likely do, this would also likely increase their costs as they likely have to pay for the amount of Bandwidth they have available at any one time, and they would need to buy more bandwidth to hand the additional load.
These are also likely the reasons they unofficially turn a blind eye to a 3rd party plugin like HWA, which only scrapes data and stores it on the client, not adding to bandwidth or storage on their side, where as they crack down on a 3rd party like HWS, as that injected code to run simulations on the server side, thus increasing bandwidth usage and also likely storage.
still, a good 3rd tem which I am now building 🙂
kayla with aidan anyway
and Ziri may help here too
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The team log is a joke, it appears far more usefull to see the log the week after.
Thanks Charlie