205 - How to Carve a Twisted Candle Stand
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I recently made a Tilt-Top Table that features a turned post. Since many folks don't own a lathe, I decided to come up with an alternative way to construct a post. I found inspiration in an episode of Woodworks from season 4. 402_pedestaltableDavid Marks made this awesome lamp stand with a spiral post. With David's permission, I'm going to show you a variation of the technique that I learned from him. While Season 4 of Woodworks isn't available just yet, you can buy Seasons 1, 2 and 3 right now at DJMarks.com. Both downloads and DVDs are available. And if you aren't familiar with Woodworks, you seriously need to pick up a season or two!
My original goal was to simply show you the spiral carving technique. But it's always more fun to actually make something useful, so I quickly shoe-horned the spiral pattern into a small candle stand. Aside from the spiral itself, construction of this candle stand is quite simple.
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I completely agree, David Marks' Woodworks was without a doubt the best woodworking program ever made, his program really was the reason I got into woodwork!
i guess it's pretty randomly asking but does anybody know a good site to stream newly released tv shows online ?
@Jake Kyler Try FlixZone. Just search on google for it =)
@Colby Taylor Yup, I have been using flixzone for years myself :)
@Colby Taylor Thank you, I went there and it seems like a nice service =) Appreciate it !!
@Jake Kyler glad I could help =)
If the spiral doesn’t go a whole number of turns around, you could choose to align the grain so that it looks like the wood itself has been twisted.
Nice project Marc. I agree with what you said about David Marks show Wood Works. I used to eagerly wait on each new episode. As always wonderful video quality.
Fudgesicle definitely makes more sense. :) I do actually have a lathe and that's how I made the table at the beginning of this episode. The reason I decided to show this technique was for the benefit of people who don't have a lathe.
Thanks Marc for taking the time to answer back, really appreciate it! Looking forward to more of your inspirational vids!
I love all your videos! You explain everything clearly and to understand for everyone. I will definitely try this candle stand. Thanks and keep the videos coming!
Yep. Had the same exact thought.
Lovely candleholder. I usually put a short thin metal pin in the top so it sticks into the bottom bit of the candle so it doesn’t topple off. Great videos!
David Marks was my greatest inspiration for fine woodworking as well. :)
I love your carving tool. the candle stand turned out great keep it up.
great video!...it's a really simple but elegant technique. also, i love the the "happy time-whistley-montage" music!
As always... this was a great video. Not planning on doing any carving anytime soon. But I was able to pick up other things in this video. Thanks for sharing.
I would add a small brad in the center to help hold the candle. Nice video like you David Marks has been a great insperation.
Inspirational piece of wood working. The spiral would look impressive on almost anything and very satisfying to make successfully so many thanks.
I saw another video that showed how to make spirals using a scroll saw. I made some small ones and cast plastic around them to make some composite pens on the lathe.
Also, I tried that titebond glue, and it's so much better than liquid nail. Your videos are awesome!
I really enjoy your videos. I have often wondered how that was done , Now it's time to see if i can come even close to yours. Thanks
Nice vid. I just watched both this one and the top making one. It is nice to see turning in a vid of yours.
Thanks mate that looks great, keep up the good work and info.
There is also a Spiral that can be done similar to this using a scroll saw. I do not recall if you have ever done a scroll saw episode but may be neat to do that one also to show the pluses and minuses of both option. Thanks again for the great vids very much appreciated.
I use many woods in my projects.
a few years ago i watched mr. marks on tv i do not know why he quit he had a great show and i remember the spiral that he did and by the way you did it justice i also like to watch steve becauese i too make mistakes love towatch wwmm awe there are just to many good shows to watch keep it up
Nice project for me to try. Thanks for the excellent video.
Not all gaps are created equal. I think Mathias had a gap of less than 1/64", which by most woodworkers standards is VERY tiny. I'd bet most of our joinery has at least that level of error. So I'm not too surprised the joint had strength. But as the gap gets larger, to the level of what I'm thinking of as a "gap", that joint is going to lose its strength quickly. So I wouldn't be too quick to make a blanket judgement from one test with one set of conditions.
Yeah that is surprising, but that's a very small data set. I don't put too much stock in "joint tests" though they are fun. Between the number of variables out of our control and the inability to test in large numbers, these tests don't really amount to much. My own experience has shown gaps to be detrimental to certain joints (in real world applications) when using a glue that isn't gap-filling so I feel it's still safe to operate under that premise.
Great video Marc. Just a thought, really liked the circle jig. Maybe a video in the future of easy made shop jigs. Up to you it's always easy to suggest something for someone else to do. Thanks again.
You gotta be reeeeeeeaally skilled to accomplish that... but the final result is so amazing
Nice job, love your shop.
Vinny
I got no idea how I ended up here but this is like a whole new different part of TH-cam.
This was awesome, such a cool video!
Great video and a fun technique, thanks!
I think when Mathias Wendell do his glued joint stress tests, the "glue gap" was the strongest of all.
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In order to have an easier time making each spiral the same depth you can mark the center line of each spiral and drill a series of holes at the drill press along that line. Each hole will be at exactly same depth and you can easly stop carving once you reach the bottom of the holes.
Marc, Charles Neil has a similar technique for making flame finials. Some day maybe I'll take this on. Thank you for sharing. :)
I appreciate your artistic ability. I do after all subscribe. I just find people often are looking for more precision and repeatability. Jigs and the sort make things easier for those of us who learn on youtube.
Beat how?
those bits for your die grinder can be found at a welding supply store. general air in Denver is a good place.
Nice technique. I used a lathe for a similar effect. I also highly recommend attempting this with thin stock (1/4" max) and steam it for an hour or so and hand twist it. This gives a beautiful flowing grain pattern and makes people go "how the....".
How do you do a spiral on a lathe?
It takes me about an hour for a small 8" piece like this.
Hi Marc, love your videos, great inspiration, I especially love the Barley Twist you have demo'd. Quick question, what epoxy brand do you recommend? Thanks in advance!
Yes it can. But I don't have a lot of luck spray oil-based finishes. I prefer quick-drying finishes instead. But yes, it can be done.
can one use a general dremel tool for this?
is that custom "wood whisperer" 3M blue tape?
EXCELLENT VIDEO
Wow that is awesome just incredible.
Learn to carve a spiral and make a Twisted Candle Stand. th-cam.com/video/_Ko8k_DOonM/w-d-xo.html
Hi Wood whisperer I like your videos, my question is what type of wood you use for your works?
I haven't tried this, but I figured if I ever did, I'd drill depth holes between the lines and "erase" my depth holes. I learned this from some random table leg video on youtube.
What is the name of the rubber tool you used to sand the candle stabd with. I really would like to order one. thank you
sorry. i'm impatient! lol
btw, love the vids, think i've seen almost all of them. just getting into woodworking and find them to be helpful. god bless and keep up with the vids.
One method I saw was to take the blank to the drill press and drill to a set depth to K ow when you are deep enough. Of course this means adding center lines as well.
Perhaps you had water-based poly?
What was that rounding machine in the beginning?
spiral -> awesome... Home made center finder ->>>AWSOMER!
Nice job and good info. Might be nice if the bottom was a little larger than the top. just a thought.
Thanks Mark
I could imagine that if you need/want to do this on multiple items, you could use a router table with a 2" round-nose bit, a feather board on top and side of the piece and a jig to turn the piece while pushing it over the bit. I however no longer have a workshop to try out this idea firsthand.
I wouldn't. Those RPM recommendations are there for your safety. And I wouldn't take a chance with a hunk of metal that large. I would wait until you can get ahold of a variable speed router.
Poly has a shelf life. How long have you had it? Or perhaps you didn't close the can tight enough and it cured out.
Router table fitted with a large rounding over bit?
I think the technique is good for that short piece. Can you give us an idea of how many hours or minutes it takes you per foot of that spiral using typical hardwood.Up to finish grit.
I was not aware of that. I can honestly say that i have no idea how old it is. Someone gave it to me to get it out of their way. its a few years old at least. the lid was on well, but it may be too old. it was about a half gallon left in the can. free is always a good deal. i still used it and it worked fairly well, just wished i could cut it to make application easier. thanks for the tip.
It might be a good idea to drive a small brad through the top hole, from underneath before glue up, so that the brad point sticks into the candle and holds it in place.
This would be super cool as a support between the shelves of a bookshelf or something, to prevent them from bowing.
I like West Systems.
Do you know of a video that would have only one barley thist?
Thank you.
I'm sure there are tons of ways to make something similar with more advanced tooling or jigs. But where's the fun in that? ;)
A couple weeks ago, i tried to cut some poly with mineral spirits. I was thinking it was commonly done. But when i mixed the two, disaster. I don't know what i did wrong.. but it all began clumping together. I attempted to stir it, thinking it might help it mix, however, it only got worse. And when i pulled out my stirring stick, all the poly had clung to it in a gooey, taffy looking mess. Again, i don't know where i went wrong. Any idea how i screwed that simple mixture up?
Honestly, there's no artistry involved here at all. Just control and patience. I'm a big believer in jigs for the same reasons you mentioned. But some operations are worth exploring without jigs, to help you grow as a woodworker. By the time you figure out a good jig solution for this that produces decent results, you could have done numerous practice runs by hand and acquired a new skill. The decision is up to the individual of course.It's all about doing the kind of woodworking you want to do.
Marc:
You said that a gap makes the glued joint weaker. Surprisingly, last November Matthais did a video where he found that the gapped joint was the strongest joint of all those he tested.
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Great job. Very good explanation, I feel can do this now. Can you find a music that will match your voice?
I like the manufacturing part of youtube^^. Especially since I have no skills in that area and it's like a window into a whole nother world
Funny thing is, I've got a lathe, but I don't have a router table. Probably gonna build one based on Norm Abram's from the New Yankee Workshop sometime.
Yeah it's totally the hard way. And a very gratifying way. Bottom line is if you have the skill to do this exercise, you have something you can apply to other projects. Having the skill in your back pocket means you don't have to build a jig for everything you want to carve and you aren't limited by your ability to engineer a solution.
You are right this one test shouldn't be used as any sort of guideline. I thought his gap was larger but in fact was very small. I do know that titebond is freaking strong tho.
I have a table lamp that has a spiral post. Unlike yours, it has two concentric spirals, one broad and the other narrow.
My father made it back in the 1940s, from oak, probably from reclaimed from broken furniture, as new timber was not available to the public during wartime.
But there was a lot of broken furniture in England at the time, thanks to Mr Hitler's bombing campaign.
Needless to say, it was all done with hand tools. There were no carbide burrs available back then. On the other hand, there was no television either, so my father entertained himself by making things from broken furniture.
A typical woodworker, he never finished this project. I think that he carved it just for the fun of carving a double helix. But don't worry. I've since wired it and added a lampholder and shade. It looks lovely!
lol for Mark quoting the sermon on the mount :p
One idea is to use the tablesaw to make the spiral. The trick would be to push and turn the piece consistently.
I'm way out on a lefty limb that most people don't care about and never have, so what I say is pretty worthless. Roy is extremely aware of and honorable to his local woods, local energy, the majestic power of trees, the way the grew, the grain of them (for more than just aesthetics). He develops the patience, technique, and body mechanics that machines will never let you know.
I probably should have mentioned it, but that's a battery-powered candle. :)
15:36 - I would've said "Fudgesicle" with the color of the wood here, lol.
Also, when you made the piece circular at the router table, I'm assuming it's because you don't have a lathe, right? I don't think I've ever seen you use one in your shop.
I think the 1st time I observed a spiral being done was watching a woodturner Stuart Mortimer do one on a wood lathe!
did you give away your circular saw ?
or are you already looking for a winner
YOU are the BEST :)
Man. Roy Underhill has everybody beat by a long shot. Check out the barley twist table in the 2006-2007 season for similar design tips on the pbs website.
I really question the accuracy of Mr. Wandal's testing rig as well. A bathroom scale is usually +/- 5 pounds or more, a car jack is just not designed to slowly and smoothly add pressure, and the 3:1 pressure rig he built must add at least a little more variability.
A router and a lathe could be the making of a really cool jig...
Get your self a ''Sears wood crafter'' and you can do all the spirals and legs as much as you want :)
I've seen this done on the grinder fixed to a bench... It's a whole lot easier... with a longer round stock, twist the stock as you push it past the grinder blade... Its quicker...about ten minutes on each piece...
i would have tried to use a forstner biy on the top....to hold the candle..otherwise its awesome
Yep, although it's part of our vernacular, so you probably didn't realize its source. "Ask and you shall receive" is from Matthew 7.
Those battery candles are great, specially for making the right mood in the bedroom, safe and sexy ;)
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It would be cool if the spiral transitioned into a base
I went to carpenting school and they didn't learn me anything....
Thats what I've realized since watching these videos
Permission to do a spiral?
i will have to check. i never paid attention to that, as it was a freebie from someone clearing out their shop. the odor of it leads me to think it wasn't water based.. it was quite offensive. however, as Ive never used water based poly before, that was just an assumption. it may very well be. thanks.
Wow dude, how can you even try to compare Roy with Marc? Their styles are totally different. They are both great at what they do. ps and Roy always scares me a bit, can you believe he still has 8 fingers and 2 thumbs?
Sadly, that's just regular 3M tape. :)