That challenger isn’t powerful enough to handle either one properly, both these cultivation tools rely on a decent forward speed between 6-12kph and depth. Another 150hp up front wouldn’t hurt and both machines would do a better job.
However I believe those equipments are used on the wrong land. A better idea is to use a plough first (either disc or mouldboard or chisel ploughs), then comes disc harrow if clods are big and hard, but if they're soft and small you can use the cultivators in the video, then seeding if no slurry is added to ground. Never use those cultivators in very hard grassy land, but softer land!
Megpróbáltuk a legheterogénebb területen húzni, így nagyrészt víz nyomott volt, illetve gyékényes részek is akadtak benne. kb 10-12 ak-s talajaink vannak. Kukoricába húztuk, nem dugult el, de nem is egy híres kultúra. :)
Nehéz döntés. Nagy szármaradványban mindkettő bedugul. A Centaurnak kicsit nehezebb a húzása. A Centaur 1 tonnával nehezebb, így kevésbé inog a gerendelye, mint a TopDowné, de a kapái könnyebben nyílnak, a Topdownnál pedig fordítva. A Topdownt lehet húzni henger nélkül is, a Centaurt nem. A Centaur ára viszont jóval kedvezőbb. Ahol a Centaur kapái már nyitnak, tömör a talaj, rögös lesz, idő és energia kell a nagy rögök elmunkálásához. Ilyenkor talán inkább lazító! Ennyi jött le a rövid próbából.
This is not a comparison of two different machines or working quality. This is an example for stupid farming or farmers. None of these machines are developed to cope with such conditions. And even more: this is a raping of the soil.... good preparation of the ground is needed! First the grass an every organic material on the top has to be cutted and mixed smoothly in the ground.... good starter would be a disc harrow or sth similar after gras is mowed. The next steps have to go deeper always just a little bit... first with wide and soil mixing tools... then the deeper we are going always getting more narrow... so we avoid producing clods, soil compaction and that organic material will be mixed in between the first 25 cm of the ground (Earthworms will be grateful)... last step would be recompacting the soil.... so no clay-parts of the soil are washed down into deeper holes... Then: seeding, taking care and harvesting.
Infact I agree with you. however another better idea is to use a plough first (either disc or mouldboard plough, or chisel), then comes disc harrow if clods are big and hard, but if they're soft and small you can use the cultivators in the video, then seeding if no slurry is added to ground
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That challenger isn’t powerful enough to handle either one properly, both these cultivation tools rely on a decent forward speed between 6-12kph and depth. Another 150hp up front wouldn’t hurt and both machines would do a better job.
However I believe those equipments are used on the wrong land. A better idea is to use a plough first (either disc or mouldboard or chisel ploughs), then comes disc harrow if clods are big and hard, but if they're soft and small you can use the cultivators in the video, then seeding if no slurry is added to ground. Never use those cultivators in very hard grassy land, but softer land!
Elég víznyomott területnek látszik, hány aranykoronás föld? Kukorica tarlóba próbáltátok hogy mit csinálnak?
Megpróbáltuk a legheterogénebb területen húzni, így nagyrészt víz nyomott volt, illetve gyékényes részek is akadtak benne. kb 10-12 ak-s talajaink vannak.
Kukoricába húztuk, nem dugult el, de nem is egy híres kultúra. :)
A hang! 🥰
Horsch MT Tiger??Azt nem próbáltátok?
Nehéz döntés. Nagy szármaradványban mindkettő bedugul. A Centaurnak kicsit nehezebb a húzása. A Centaur 1 tonnával nehezebb, így kevésbé inog a gerendelye, mint a TopDowné, de a kapái könnyebben nyílnak, a Topdownnál pedig fordítva. A Topdownt lehet húzni henger nélkül is, a Centaurt nem. A Centaur ára viszont jóval kedvezőbb. Ahol a Centaur kapái már nyitnak, tömör a talaj, rögös lesz, idő és energia kell a nagy rögök elmunkálásához. Ilyenkor talán inkább lazító! Ennyi jött le a rövid próbából.
És milyen konklúziót tudtatok levonni!!?
The Centaur is more than 1,5 tons heavier than Top Down. I think this is the answer.
who wins??? amazone or vaderstadt??
HI Vaderstad
This is not a comparison of two different machines or working quality. This is an example for stupid farming or farmers. None of these machines are developed to cope with such conditions. And even more: this is a raping of the soil.... good preparation of the ground is needed! First the grass an every organic material on the top has to be cutted and mixed smoothly in the ground.... good starter would be a disc harrow or sth similar after gras is mowed. The next steps have to go deeper always just a little bit... first with wide and soil mixing tools... then the deeper we are going always getting more narrow... so we avoid producing clods, soil compaction and that organic material will be mixed in between the first 25 cm of the ground (Earthworms will be grateful)... last step would be recompacting the soil.... so no clay-parts of the soil are washed down into deeper holes...
Then: seeding, taking care and harvesting.
Infact I agree with you. however another better idea is to use a plough first (either disc or mouldboard plough, or chisel), then comes disc harrow if clods are big and hard, but if they're soft and small you can use the cultivators in the video, then seeding if no slurry is added to ground
Az MT-t nem, pedig tetszik.