200 years of experience in 1 hour
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 2 ก.ค. 2024
- Four beekeepers, lecturers at our 2023, centenary National Honey Show, with well over 200 years of beekeeping experience between them, three with over 50 years each, have an impromptu discussion about their experiences - a sort of beekeepers “jam session” (with apologies to musicians). This may include how they have managed situations that have been thrown at them unexpectedly, which may not be found in books. Knowledge and skills built up through many years of working with and observing colonies of bees can be very useful when solving problems in the apiary. All four come from different areas, with different climates, different bees, different legislation, etc. They discuss topics that are relevant to all beekeepers, each from their own perspective.
This is a coffee break very well spent. I particularly enjoyed the discussion regarding feeding or not feeding sugar syrup. Not every hive needs it at all, but when one does just the smallest amount of sugar syrup can resuscitate an otherwise doomed colony. Honey is best, but don't abandon the rest :) nothing wrong with a survival fix of sucrose for an otherwise doomed colony. Randy's comment at 23:00 is also very valuable. Much appreciated, and I'm so happy to have met two of these individuals in person and we all benefit from so much knowledge and experience.
"Someone who manages hundreds of colonies, how many hives would they put in the same place? Is 60 good?"
Michaels point of feeding ratios raises a great point. In his area he feeds a different ratio than guys like Randy. Randy does this for stimulation to get brooding for preparing for almond pollination. Great questions and great roundtable, really enjoyed it.
Great to hear such experiences and points of view!! Thanks!!
That last part about not checking every frame definitely struck a nerve for me, got me thinking that maybe I should shorten my inspections. I suppose I've never really gotten out of the beginner inspector phase, after 3 years.
Randy is absolutely right about keeping African Hybridized bees. I keep colonies in Southern New Mexico, often collecting swarms or doing hive removals. They are not safe in close proximity to other humans nor are they enjoyable to work with with. Every wild colony is assumed to be a hybrid african/european and should be requeened with known genetics.
Well done Roger, well done indeed.
Mike is leaving more honey for winter than the average german hive makes in a whole year
New Zealand ,very interesting thank you
Fabulous talk , Thank you .
We all do open feeding in Canada and we don’t get any robbing but you feed but only bee keepers that are isolated
Ill listen to Palmer.. thanks
Very good
I worked bees with just a white shirt and veil for two yrs. then developed AF shock, now have to fully suit up, leather gloves and boots,,,, yes be aware of heat stroke and know when to QUIT and cool down.
What is AF shock?
Please work on getting the general public over the fear of bees!
Great discussion. As for teaching beginners let them suit up and yep, keep them in nucs to start. I was taught to keep bees with no veil or uniform. I did this for many years and then I decided I didn't want to keep taking stings at the rate I was getting them.
So, I own a top and veil. I do have gloves but only if the bees are defensive that day.
I helped teach a beekeeping class years ago with a nationally known beekeeper. He had his hive and I had mine. Instead of picking the small hives that were easy, he had me opening up colonies that were big and with honey supers on. Talk about tough days.
These videos are great. I take away something every time I watch them. Thank you for doing these
Thanks for this great collection of experience!
Ha, I know randy and mike I did not know the other guy, this was good, but could u get them back on there and tell us how they manage their hives. I have never heard Mik or Randy do a talk on it. Randy always talks about mites and the oa extended release and Mike always talks on the resource hives. I want to know how they keep there production hives there management. how they do there inspections in more detail, That would be very helpful That would be great, Thanks and have a blessed week
Agreed.
Mike has a video called "A Year in the Bee Yard" where he goes more in depth in other aspects of his operation outside of just resource hives.
@@LawsonsCreekApiary I think Framcesmoore is looking at the exact management of the production hives. I've never seen it and I believe I've seen all of Mike's videos. What is the manipulation of the production hives to produce his honey
As far as entrances go I like chimneys during Saskatchewans honey flows i believe the honey which could be 6 deeps in 3 weeks drys cures faster so I can get the crop off before the students go back to school in early sept .
And some years to get the late crops .
Once large flows are done its easy to reduce the entrance i just turn my 3/4 plywood over to stop robbing .
Randy is right we remove all the canola to keep them from starving out during our short 6-7 of - 10c to -50c winter
Not all Canadians i flat out refuse to do it because of pathogen spreading . And there are 40 plus hive yards every 2 -3 miles .
I see pollen open feeding and destroyed comb feeding in barrels we never saw any of that here ever 30 years ago .
I do feed sucrose all spring to create huge hives until about 2 -3weeks before canola starts . Then honey super the 3-4 high brood chamber .
Some Early pollen sub we get a lot of early pollen but not so much nectar as the fields are right up to the edge of the road and all the native nectar producers have been ploughed under . And nectar producing hedgerows are now fields .
The best yards we have are now set up near a river or stream .
We had local queens they were evil but were good producers . (Candle Lake Strain ) We buy cell fr local breeders and sometimes queens fr elsewhere .
We also donate our best bees to local breeders for them and to use them to make us queens with .
I will make queenless hives and give them frames of eggs fr my best hive then cage the cells and splits once the cells are ripe or start to hatch .
This is a very very good discussion thank you for doing this .
Much appreciated
And as you all say the beekeeprs are the main cause of the spread of disease and parasites .
Our Candle Lake strain would have made you wear double protection and the bees packages we bought fr Alabama would have killed you.
The bees we have now i never wore a veil or any kind of armour all year .in 2023 .
I reacted so bad to stings the first year i would get one in the finger and would swell up past me elbow .
Took me until year 3 before the swelling and pain stopped .
Who's the guy in the 3rd seat?
To the left or right?
Randy Oliver 3rd seat from left
On left, the Scottish guy?
Andrew Abrahams, from the Colonsay bee reserve (isolated stocks of pure AMM bee lineage), a remote Scottish island that is varroa free, and it is illegal to import or bring any other type of bee to.@@michaelduncan6287
With 150 hives i make first splits wity imported queens to ease off swarming instinct and buy time. After that i begin my own raising. But im not sure i want to continue that strategy this coming season
Some commercial beekeepers just don't have time to raise their own queens. If they want to outsource that task; I see no problem with that. I do see a HUGE problem with importing bees from other countries and continents; that is just asking to bring new pests and diseases to our shores.
If you compare sugar syrup with honey it’s different. If you compare honey made from sugar syrup with regular honey they have the same acidity levels. You need to compare nectar with sugar syrup and they are the same. Then compare regular honey with sugar syrup which has been capped they are the same or close. Stop using that propaganda