england have averaged 3 shots on target so far in this tournament against serbia, denmark, slovenia and slovakia. never thought i’d say this but switzerland should be considered the favourites to go through to the semis.
27 seconds from awful defeat but the Brummie Lion did what he does. UCL Winners just find ways to win - that's why Klopp, Pep, Don Carlo, Don Fabio, Gary Neville, Carra, Gerrard, Scholes, Rio all love Trent & Jude together ( as they are this generations Pirlo to Del Pierio or Thuram to Zidane !). Mate spot on about Foden was very poor. Cancelled a nice goal with a sloppy off side. Hit a freekick from a nice position into the wall. What's gone wrong with the ManC boys. Has pep worn em out? Is there a cold virus in the squad sapping some of the energy to make runs behind & receive worldy passes from Trent?
Reporters having to attack the players with their questions because no one is allowed to ask Southgate anything remotely probing or challenging without being uninvited from pressers then leads to moments like Bellingham caring more about critics than football. Why is no journalist asking about the lack of balance down the left, the inability to create clear chances with Foden, Kane and Bellingham dropping into the same space, not using any pacy wingers when we need to stretch teams, starting the same 10 players every game despite it clearly not working? ITV, BBC, Sky Sports analysts are all being critical, yet no one wants to directly ask Southgate these questions.
the journos are all in Southgate's pockets. Fed up of him and the players regurgitating propaganda and no interviewer/journalist calling them out on it.
Same as with most modern media now, anyone asking difficult questions would just be removed from the allowed jornalists list from the FA. Lick their boots or get removed.
If Southgate can’t figure out to start or even sub on Gordon to play against a 37 year old right back, we have absolutely no chance. The only way we can reach the final is if we sack Southgate asap.
I think he fell out with Gordon over the bike incident You may not see him play for the rest of the tournament No reason if you didn't start him not to put him on at half time
@@Dan-mm1yl Gordon should have come on for Foden in the first game (before bike issue) I just don't get it to be honest, it makes no sense, you have a player who can get up and down, take players on, has speed to stretch the game and stop us being penned in, and he actually plays there every week, oh and he can cross a ball in or get to the goal line.
@SFM35.8 foden as lwf outside of the city system isn't better. England need either bellingham or foden at 10 not both. mainoo was the only player who played at a high performance level vs solvakia. drop saka or move to lb. Gordon lw palmer rw. toney or Watkins shud be starting tbh
😂 Sorry but I don't think sacking the manager mid tournament is getting anyone any results! I agree we have been poor this time. Southgate has made mistakes but he isn't the only problem. A lot of our better players haven't turned up. They look sluggish, not fully fit and out of form and that's not just the tactics. I think people like to think Southgate is the only problem and so you just sack him and its fixed! I dont think that will be the case. I think Saturday is as far as we go but I don't predict better from anyone who comes in for him. There's something wrong with our footballing culture in this country. We have always sat back and defended slender leads etc and struggled to control games.
I can’t remember the last time England put on a very good performance under Southgate. The two friendlies just before the Euros we were useless as well. Southgate is way too cautious & negative. He’s definitely a glass half empty, rather than a glass half full guy - plays not to lose, rather than plays to win.
For the very first time ever (in 34 + years of supporting England - Italia 90 was my first tournament), I would say that even if England somehow won the tournament, playing like this and fluking it here and there, I just wouldn’t care that much. I’m not looking for perfect performances, just bloody something that I can be proud of.
I know what you mean , I'd be overjoyed because we haven't won anythung in my lifetime, it would feel like reward for all those years of hurt. However I don't think I could ever give Southgate any praise at all for it , it feels like I would be celebrating for all the past heartbreak of teams almost winning it , I wouldn't be celebrating what this team have done so to speak. After the initial celebrating though , in the cold light of day , if we won playing like this and just winning on luck then I would feel slightly embarrassed, I've felt more passion in 98 when the 10 men gave absolutely everything to win , the tears of the goal by Campbell being ruled out, still hurts , because we deserved to win that night , I have more feelings over the memories of that night than anything the last three tournaments have provided. I don't remember feeling pride of getting to the final a couple of years back , my ultimate memory is Southgate going out of his way to make sure we drew that game, he gave us no passion , so I feel none. A loss in a knockout game in 98 makes me more proud of a team than any of Southgates games as manager.
similarly if England somehow won playing in this fashion I think I'd feel overwhelmingly disappointed for everyone they beat. England have to aspire to be better but I don't know where the inspiration is coming from. I can't imagine what the fans watching these games live are thinking, watching this calibre of player completely freeze.
You arent an england fan steve. You must be seething that southgate won again. Semi final, final, quarter final, semi final (possibly better) but you would rather play more attacking and lose? Absolutely embarrassing @steve10
@@hyywe240 Why on earth would we lose if we played more attacking football? Even with the current system, the selection of players is confusing. Playing about 15 10s with Kane (essentially a 10)?
@@sensibility1174 I know, everyone is slagging the team off, personally I believe they deserve some credit for getting a result when obviously things aren't working out perfectly. Also if nothing else, it was good entertainment,
I couldn't watch the 2nd half, went and chilled in the garden, came back in after 45 mins to see if we had come back.... a minute later Bellingham scored.
We can't even play out from the back against Slovakia, 80% of our passes were in our own half, we gave the ball away, had no ideas going forward, left naturally wide attacking players (which we were crying out for) on the bench. It's too late to change all these problems especially with Southgate making the decisions. Zero chance of playing a decent game let alone getting through the next round. The worst thing is that Southgate is oblivious to what is going on.
Bellinghams goal was magic and he deserves credit for it, but we are missing the point that if the number 10 role was being played well for the 90 minutes we wouldnt need saving with 30 seconds to go would we.
The number 10 role wasn’t the only thing that went horribly wrong tho yesterday we couldn’t progress the ball through the lines from the defence good enough, any team that presses us well will make life difficult for us
Bellingham was one of the only players trying to progress the ball up the pitch. The problems are further back. We had lots of possession without progressing the ball, we don’t seem to be able to play through the lines.
Foden would look far better as that 10, Jude was struggling to get himself into the right pockets. I'm in the camp that I wanted Rice and Bellingham to be the midfield pair, but since Mainoo has come in and done well I doubt we'll see that at all at this point which means if we want Gordon on the pitch, Foden or Bellingham have to be left out if we intend on keeping this system. It's a ridiculous and unfortunate circumstance that Southgate has forced us into.
Neville, of all pundits, is the closest to outlining Southgate's mindset/overriding tactics but none have clearly indentified it... so here it is. Southgate has instructed his defenders and DMs to avoid ‘risky’ passes in the centre of the pitch to avoid giving away possession in dangerous areas. That's it. And this is why we don’t flow through the lines. This is why our defenders and DM players aren't playing balls forward or even sideways to other players in tight spaces which is how you create flowing moves and gain advantages and move up the pitch. So instead players feel they must choose the safe pass which of course means our flow is sideways and backwards (and at best up the wings) and often it ends with a defender or the keeper finally lumping it upfield because there are no more safe passes to be made. So that is the passing/ ball retention mindset Southgate has drilled into the players and especially the 2 DMs and the defenders and goalkeeper. That is why TAA will never play at RB under Southgate in any meaningful game. His passes are too high risk. That is why Mainoo and Rice weren't trusted to receive balls in tight areas in the middle of the pitch versus Slovakia And given the lack of a left footed left back that's why the ball goes up that flank only to return to the CBs each and every time. That's Southgate ball - will he change v Switzerland? No The only hope is that he plays Gordon so we have a real outlet for getting down that flank into dangerous areas. Will he play Gordon? probably not. So the idea will be that we won't gift Switzerland an easy goal - they will have to earn it. And because we have world class attacking talent the laws of probability suggest we will always score at least 1 goal in a game. So that's it and that's how it's gonna be in every game
@@sittingonmysofa that is depressingly accurate. Slovakia packed the middle of the field and forced everything down the wings. Trippier was unable to do anything but try to dribble into the box. Kane is unbelievably slow which results in him missing chances and headers. Sad.
You could be right. The only uncertainty is whether these are tactical decisions, or whether the players are themselves too afraid to play the riskier balls. It also could be true that teams know quite well how we're going to play so crowd the midfield and then press hard on our wingers to prevent them turning and running. You do make a solid point though that our tactical approach, in part, is clearly built on solid defence. There isn't anything wrong with that, but it just isn't good to watch and unless your attackers are firing and will balanced, you're stuffed.
I think it's similar in some ways to the French approach under Deschamps. But as bad as they are playing it's not as bad as England. Southgate has to at least solve the left wing / Foden problem. So maybe Shaw will be the one change along with Guehi being unavailable. He surely can't play Trippier/Foden again on the left
The maddest thing is the gaslighting by Southgate and his players trying to claim they are playing well and have “control” of the game! Add to that Southgate arrogantly refusing to make the changes everyone can see are needed and the players whining about any criticism they receive. But yeah everyone should just be happy they scraped through with a vastly more talented squad than most other teams 🥱
I’m disappointed how the players have bought into this ‘siege mentality’….‘no one believes in us…they just want to talk us down…we’ll show you!’ I thought these boys were smart…
The pundits are practically apologising now for the criticism in the early games. Its ridiculous that the players have had a go back when the criticism is not personal and based on performance only. Do the players expect the media to push a narrative that performance levels have been good enough after what we have seen
cos we can't string 2 passes together + Pickford has low IQ standing way out of his goal when our players are constantly losing the ball, including our defence.
Neville is usually fairly sensible on this, but here he is part of the problem. Southgate is a fair-weather manager. He had a group of new players that he had a good prior relationship with, improved the atmosphere in the camp, and that went a long way. But he had easy runs and barely responded when things did get tougher. That's glaringly obvious now we're experiencing problems. Ultimately coaching matters, and we look lost. His ineptitude is impacting the players now
Its so obvious to see where the issues are, yet the highest paid international manager can't see it. I am sure he a great guy, but his management has been very poor. The players are trying, but are shackled by bad team selection and no obvious game plan. We are going to go out with a bang when we play a decent team, and the Swiss are a decent team.
Stones and Walker can't even do some basic passing between them and they've played for City together for a long time. I don't know what's going on. I am not sure if it's down to tactics or team selection, the players simply can't make basic passes. Stones is going up for headers that Guehi has covered on the left side - why? - does Stones not trust Guehi?..... Stones is reliable A.F for City, it seems this past season of injuries has turned him into Jeff from the Dog and Duck.
GK - Pickford LWB - Saka LCB - Gomez CB - Stones RCB - Walker RWB - Trent RCM - Bellingham LCM - Rice LW - Gordon ST - Kane RW - Palmer Gives Kane the space to drop into the 10 and allow Palmer and Gordon to run behind either out wide or cut inside and play more as a front 2 to give space to Saka and Trent Park Rice on Xhaka for the whole game to keep him quiet and we beat the Swiss In fact I’m convinced that team wins the whole thing.
When has 343 ever worked 😂 it’s like a make belief formation. It completely takes away of the main reason of 352 which is to pack the midfield and dominate possession. Some people are clueless about tactics and formations.
You could start with either eze or gordan on the left if the starter is having a poor game make the change on 55 mins but Southgate won't do this unfortunately.
It has been more than 5 games. England couldn't even lay a glove on the worst Brazil side in decades back in March. England has been terrible for this entire calendar year, and Southgate has done absolutely nothing to change the performances.
We got demoted in the Nations League.... we are in with the rubbish teams next time. Not France, Spain, Germany.... we're in with Iceland, Slovenia, Estonia.....etc....
The good thing about this is, going into our fifth game of the tournament, that we're all in it together: we all know England are labouring heavily and the team lacks cohesion and we're all desperate for it to come good. I don't think anyone is blaming the players as individuals, we know they care and are trying. The problem is the obvious imbalance in the squad and in the system we're playing - and Gareth Southgate is where the buck stops there.
I competely disagree with you, in a wrong system and imbalanced team , u would usually still see brilliant individual sporadic moments , there was none zilch save for 2 moments , one was rice hitting the post , the other was bells wonder goal! Absolute Horror Show. Cowards trying to waste time
@@linusboyz I don’t know: you make it sound like they’re playing badly on purpose to annoy you.😄 We’ve lurched into the quarter finals though, haven’t we. I find it inconceivable that we wouldn’t be playing better in a more balanced team with a manager who was far better tactically.
@@nellypringle2875 yes to playing better , but only becoz it can’t get any worse. But this bunch of bums are pretty useless save for Jude. Kane is slightly above average and rice is average. The rest are just the purest garbage on planet Earth 🌍. Ps I like foden but he’s garbage so far.
Please put the hungry young players on. Defo Gordon to give us a left wing threat, maybe palmer, and sub kane ffs. We have pacey strikers on the bench desperate for a go
It would be nice to see him at least do this by 60 minutes if we aren't playing well. I don't think I can watch the next game. I'll give it a go, but if we are dross and we go 1-0 down - I am switching it off.
This tournament Switzerland are playing much better than England, England are literally hanging on with a lot of luck and eventually their luck will run out. I'm afriad Switzerland will put England out of their misery in their next game just like they did with Italy, England (1) Switzerland (3) is my prediction
@@finfog4590 I think it will be 3;1 to the Swiss, the English will score first from Kane...The Swiss will work the way back in and win the match with 3 goals as you say...
Until Southgate drops Foden on the LW for Gordon to provide some balance we’ll struggle every game It was telling we scored about 5 seconds after Foden was subbed. It embarrassing that Southgate made no changes despite having no shots on target for about 90 minuets. He’s out of his depth and it’s individual quality that has saved us
Best goal I’ve ever seen. Special moment by a special team. If you look really hard you can see the team are really playing well. England beat a team ranked 57 in the world. Not that many teams are better when you come to think about it. People also have to realize that England topped the toughest group in the competition.
27 seconds from awful defeat but the Brummie Lion did what he does. UCL Winners just find ways to win - that's why Klopp, Pep, Don Carlo, Don Fabio, Gary Neville, Carra, Gerrard, Scholes, Rio all love Trent & Jude together ( as they are this generations Pirlo to Del Pierio or Thuram to Zidane !). Mate spot on about Foden was very poor. Cancelled a nice goal with a sloppy off side. Hit a freekick from a nice position into the wall. What's gone wrong with the ManC boys. Has pep worn em out? Is there a cold virus in the squad sapping some of the energy to make runs behind & receive worldy passes from Trent?
You're a not seriously putting Southgate in the same conversation as Klopp & Pep. Yes Bellingham scored a brilliant goal but that apart England were awful for all but 5 minutes.
Luck that he deserves!! 😂😂😂 The man has lived off luck. Lucky results, lucky draws in tournaments, lucky to have a strong squad. The man is a passenger supported by has been players / mates.
@@garethnoble8513lucky or not Southgate has earned 28 million pounds since he became England managr and we haven’t won anything whatsoever… 3.5m a year for a clueless manager who relies on lucky wins and easy draws in every tournament… If this was any other person in any other job, they’d of been sacked after the first month, yet Gareth has lasted 8 years with absolutely no success… He needs sacking regardless!
@@DJ_Intrusion What if he's lucky and wins it? 🤣🤣, realistically all the teams we've played have played super deep with half decent players. Yes England haven't been great at breaking them down, but if they play Holland in the semis or Germany in the final they'll be a lot more space on the pitch as the other teams will attack more.
World Cup - knocked out by Croatia, then got easily beaten by Belgium in the 3rd place game. Easy run at the last Euros and at home for a lot of the games. Failed to beat an uninspiring Italian team at Wembley.
I couldn't agree more. We all thought the game against Iceland prior to this tournament starting was just a blip. Sadly it's just England under Southgate. England have some brilliant attacking players in a really good quality squad & yet we are awful. I have just had enough of the whole England thing, it's embarrassing people trying to justify Southgate by saying a win is a win.
Totally agree with you! It's embarrassing having the England flags flying when the team play like this...... Something is very wrong.@@johnmichaelson9173
In 95 as a teen my brother and I met Rugby world cup winner Francois Pienar. He asked us what position we played and we were both stand-off (the play maker) he told us that to be a successful number 10 you had to be able to kick and pass of both left and right feet and hands. We spent the entire summer only using our left feet and hands until we were very proficient. This carried over into football. I ended up with a left peg that had more power than my right, it wasn’t quite as accurate but I could whip a cross and shoot and pass well with both feet. It still astonishes me to see the majority of multi millionaire footballers whose job it is to kick a ball around literally handicapping themselves to be one sided. Its embarrassing. It’s called muscle memory, why don’t they force train it at academies? Any winger or wing back should be at least proficient with both feet.
Play Trent as inverted right back. Suits him better. Then play rice and Jude as double pivot. When England has the ball Trent will invert into the midfield to help rice and allow Jude to move forward.
Jude Bellingham in a double pivot would be a criminal waste of talent. You wouldn’t see his goal in the first game or half of the goals he scored for Madrid
This has been Bellingham for most of the season. He was absolutely terrible in both el clasicos, for example, but he has consistently masked his subpar performances with lucky goals. Bellingham will give you moments of magic, but he is not the guy you build a team around, and he is most certainly not the successor to Zidane.
@@Windbadger Who knows what the score might have been if we had an adequate number 10 though. The game would be completely different as a number 10 shouldn’t be hiding from the ball.
@@imouto4hireagreed. The game would be completely different if we had someone else in that position and we might not have needed a last minute winner. People are so short sighted.
Four poor performances using the same 10 starting players and the same system. How much evidence do you need to realise that these players in this system are performing to their limit? There is no other gear. Expecting anything different is another victory for hope over experience. Problem is that there is no obvious plan B for the system and chances are he'll just play the same way and hope for some more luck.
Everyone hating so much, yes we’ve had disturbing performances but this is football. It only takes one match to get back in form. Hopefully now Gareth sees the changes that need to be made.
The only glimmer of hope I have is that Switzerland won’t sit back in a low block and will come out and play (and they should, they are a superior team to England with a better manager) as I think we are obviously set up to counter teams. It’s the only way Southgate knows as he doesn’t have the tactical ability to deal with teams that sit back. The only way we go through the next game is the quality of individuals and a lot more luck IMO
@@kevh7941 The Swiss will hopefully not notice our back line is suspect...Walker looks dead poor, Stone's distribution is wonky, maybe the years are catching up..Yakin the Swiss Coach will have observed that you can get at them...but maybe not..
Has England ever had a Phil Esposito moment? Back in 72, It was Canada vs USSR in what came to be known as the "Summit Series" East vs West cold war etc. Canada known for their hockey dominance played the Soviets in an 8 game series in Canada and the USSR. The Canadians were overconfident and got surprised by the Soviets. In the end Canada won the series but the last game in Canada was a huge moment for the country. Phil Esposito had a post game interview on the ice in front of a booing Canadian crowd very unhappy with a loss. The guy pretty much spilled his guts, talking about how disheartened he was with the countries fans. Said the team was giving it their all but the Soviets were really good, and it wasnt easy out there. Lets just say hearing this guy lay it on the line and plead with Canada to get behind the team and help push them forward galvanised the country leading to the series win. Any way to end this, just get behind your team Southgates gone after this tournie. You have the talent to win but you dont have the best team. And the best TEAM usually wins this tournament.
Southgate's biggest mistake was only to bring one injured left back Luke Shaw. Second was not picking Grealish in the squad who can play along side with Foden. When Saka not playing good enough, both wings of England were paralized in attacking and putting players in the middle under high pressure from opponent's defenders. Sofar England's goals were started from right wings to create space and opportunities for Jude and Harry.
It definitely had vibes of Iceland 2016 game- I went back and watched that game and noticed how many players England played who either were coming to an end of their career, or certainly their international career. Rooney, Sturridge ,Vardy wiltshire Ali, rose, dier, Hart. I wonder how many players in this England side might also have come to an end of their international careers…. Possibly Kane, walker, Trippier- this 2024 team is in much better shape than 2016 but unless Southgate changes something we,re going out against Switzerland
The whole Trent can't defend thing.... So bored. He is the best defender in the world .. no.. but he was a good enough right back to help Liverpool win the champions league which is the highest standard of football there is. In the next game England should play Trent at RB, walker beside stones and Gomez at LB
I heard two good points this morning, one was that by reaching a semi final and final in recent tournaments it is about par, its the least we could expect with these players. The other was that the England platers are complaining that with all the criticism and pressure to win is difficult, well yeah, youre playing for your country of course it is difficult.
This is the same gary neville who said kyle walker is the best right back in the WORLD!!! LOL he got taken apart by that slovakian guy for the entire game. LOL
Southgate is too conservative and defensive in style. They retreat to a low block when they need to take the game to the opposition. They are unbalanced and they don’t take any risks. Play Trent at RB, Mainoo and Bellingham in central midfield with Foden at 10. Gordon on left and Palmer on the right. But he won’t do that.
The scenario looks similar to the 1990 WC where England got to the SF without setting the world on fire. England's group had an identical outcome to their group in this tournament. In the last 16 they won it at the death after extra time. Will the QF in this tournament go the same way with a scrambled victory in extra time again? The way they are playing now (and I hope it changes and they step up a gear) a similar outcome is possible.
Ypu really have to rate Southgate for his management style. I mean, only this guy knew that bringing on Tony at the last minute, he knew that Tony would come on and make a huge difference. 🤣
Don’t underestimate the role of Toney in the Bellingham goal. Blocked the defender from getting close to Jude, and was the only one to follow in the shot in case it was saved or hit the post. I think he would get the best out of Kane, if we can find some way to get them both in the side.
As a neutral, I think the biggest issue in attack has been that they always cut inside from the left with Foden & Trippier. It makes defending against England a lot easier
It's not the fact that there's noise that is the problem for the team. It's that few critics say what they'd do different. Tell us how YOU would improve performance. That's constructive. My view? Play the long ball to Toney. He can hold it up and that'll beat the press and create more chances. Passing it around at the back isn't getting us anywhere. (International puzzle compiler)
The main reason we have been performing so bad is because the manager is playing the players out of position just to fit his defensive formation, the manager uses 2 def-mids , where he didn't need to in the group, ,, but that's the past , he doesn't have the players for the formation he uses , so we are getting these performances, inst and of using the formation that fits the players , may be a 4-3-3 , instead of sticking to the 2 def-mids or a 4-2-3-1 ,but maybe it's the reason he didn't make the subs at half time, he was so lucky yesterday, and we can't win the tournament on luck alone
agree especially when you consider how poor his CV is. He's only been a league manager for 3 seasons, which he was poor and that was 17 years ago. Probably explains why he seems to be a novice regards starting tactics, formations and dealing with in game changes, the reason is because he is a novice.
Southgate's persistence with Trippier is a real problem (Its not Tripper's fault btw). The backs get the balls to wingers > the wingers get it to the strikers. Anyone sniping a goal from behind the strikers is a bonus. We have backs playing out of position and no effective wingers starting. The subs all play brilliantly when given a chance, but doing that on 85 mins is daft as a brush.
Neville is a friend of a Southgate no criticism towards the manager, last world cup when England got knocked out, He blamed Pickford, not a single blame to Southgate
Put foden as the bloody 10. When bellingham plays 10, he literally just either stands in the box waiting for crosses or occasionally runs around in circles in the midfield, generally diving once he gets tackled. Bellingham can not play line breaking passes, and he can't penetrate a defence centrally with his dribbling either, which is literally why he just passes it wide and stands in the box.
Southgate is the Sunak of football; the unpopular choice, well out his depth, under experienced and over promoted, running around telling everyone “the plan is working”. Everyone else can see there is no plan/it’s not working, but hes getting increasingly incredulous that you’re asking for better.
Southgate has had to be forced to change his system, which clearly isn't working. It looked much better with Toney next to Kane, and Kobbie was the best England player on the pitch. You'll know all you need to about Southgate if he reverts back to his failed system against Switzerland.
What's the point in putting TAA at right back to "whip crosses" into the box and "start play", when your striker isn't moving into the box and making runs in behind in the first place? We need to give Toney or Watkins a start, both have been more effective that Kane whilst playing much less than he has.
If Southgate isn’t sacked tonight (literally) then England have no chance against the Swiss. None. Southgate is the worst manager in this tournament by MILES, it is truly unbelievable how he has kept his job for this long because he is genuinely less competent than the average drunk English fan, and that’s not even a joke or exaggeration. As an Irishman I am praying that England keep him after they get knocked out, because I never want to see England win something. And for as long as Southgate is in charge, I can guarantee that won’t happen.
Irish idiot, get it into that head of yours - England will be knocking Switzerland out and we'll definitely be winning this tournament, no matter what.
If Southgate starts with the same team on Saturday he is going to find just how much the fans hate what he is doing to Englands reputation. He should make at least four changes or make NO mistake, the Swiss will murder us. The front line needs to be Palmer, Toney or Watkins and Gordon. Either Foden or Bellingham need benched and Kane needs to be left in the Hotel. While he has scored two goals it has been others that earn the credit for both of them. He has spent 4 games basically wandering around the pitch, hardly ever breaking into a trot let alone running, and spends more time in the centre circle than where he should be, in the opposing penalty box.
The relationship between the players/manager and the media/fans was terrible for years. Southgate and the lads worked so hard to get it back to a good place but for some reason this tournament they seem intent on undoing all that good work. Feels like they had this mentality within the group before the tournament even started, and I'm not sure why or where it's come from. Such a shame after the feel-good vibes we've had in the past few tournaments.
The fullbacks have invented this game of football tennis, you pass it to me I will pass it back to you, you pass it back to me I will pass it back to you, you pass it back to me ...... why why why...the net is at the other end of the field for goodness sake, if you can't think of anything more adventurous than this, football isn't your thing.
Why are we listening to the "expert opinion" of one of the former engand coaches that just 10 short years ago helped Roy Hodgson fail in getting England out of their world cup group and 8 years ago helped mastermind our euro 2016 exit at the hands of iceland. Yes we are playing badly and have been lucky but we're in the quater final which is the minimum Gareth has got us to in EVERY tournament he has been in charge of.
We're a mess. Stones going up for headers that are clearly Guehi's to deal with. We can't keep possession. We can't get into the opponents final third. We pass it around at the back and as soon as we play a pass forward we lose it. Then the opponent makes 3 passes and create a chance. It's atrocious.
These players must know and understand the criticism. They must know the tactics are not as good as the tactics they are used to a club level. We have a very lucky manager, as has been proved in previous tournaments, but I think it will all come to an abrupt end with a big loss unless he changes.
Oceangate are better at subs than Southgate
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excellent work if you came up with that
england have averaged 3 shots on target so far in this tournament against serbia, denmark, slovenia and slovakia. never thought i’d say this but switzerland should be considered the favourites to go through to the semis.
45% of all the goals scored in the euros have been scored from set plays.I think that statistic speaks a lot about this tournament.
England have scrapped through by the skin of their teeth. Swiss will not let them off the hook. 3-0 to Switzerland.
@@atikurrahman9304 how’s your national team doing Atikur ?
27 seconds from awful defeat but the Brummie Lion did what he does. UCL Winners just find ways to win - that's why Klopp, Pep, Don Carlo, Don Fabio, Gary Neville, Carra, Gerrard,
Scholes, Rio all love Trent & Jude together ( as they are this generations Pirlo to Del Pierio or Thuram to Zidane !).
Mate spot on about Foden was very poor. Cancelled a nice goal with a sloppy off side. Hit a freekick from a nice position into the wall.
What's gone wrong with the ManC boys.
Has pep worn em out?
Is there a cold virus in the squad sapping some of the energy to make runs behind & receive worldy passes from Trent?
It’s funny 90% of their opponents begins with the letter ‘S’: Serbia, Slovenia, Slovakia and now Switzerland
Have we completely forgotten that Joe Gomez played left back for Liverpool for a majority of the season.
Reporters having to attack the players with their questions because no one is allowed to ask Southgate anything remotely probing or challenging without being uninvited from pressers then leads to moments like Bellingham caring more about critics than football. Why is no journalist asking about the lack of balance down the left, the inability to create clear chances with Foden, Kane and Bellingham dropping into the same space, not using any pacy wingers when we need to stretch teams, starting the same 10 players every game despite it clearly not working? ITV, BBC, Sky Sports analysts are all being critical, yet no one wants to directly ask Southgate these questions.
the journos are all in Southgate's pockets. Fed up of him and the players regurgitating propaganda and no interviewer/journalist calling them out on it.
Same as with most modern media now, anyone asking difficult questions would just be removed from the allowed jornalists list from the FA. Lick their boots or get removed.
If Southgate can’t figure out to start or even sub on Gordon to play against a 37 year old right back, we have absolutely no chance. The only way we can reach the final is if we sack Southgate asap.
I think he fell out with Gordon over the bike incident
You may not see him play for the rest of the tournament
No reason if you didn't start him not to put him on at half time
@@Dan-mm1yl Gordon should have come on for Foden in the first game (before bike issue) I just don't get it to be honest, it makes no sense, you have a player who can get up and down, take players on, has speed to stretch the game and stop us being penned in, and he actually plays there every week, oh and he can cross a ball in or get to the goal line.
Foden is a better player but has to take a seat on the bench for strategic balance in the next game. Gordon In Foden Out
@SFM35.8 foden as lwf outside of the city system isn't better. England need either bellingham or foden at 10 not both.
mainoo was the only player who played at a high performance level vs solvakia. drop saka or move to lb. Gordon lw palmer rw. toney or Watkins shud be starting tbh
😂 Sorry but I don't think sacking the manager mid tournament is getting anyone any results! I agree we have been poor this time. Southgate has made mistakes but he isn't the only problem. A lot of our better players haven't turned up. They look sluggish, not fully fit and out of form and that's not just the tactics. I think people like to think Southgate is the only problem and so you just sack him and its fixed! I dont think that will be the case. I think Saturday is as far as we go but I don't predict better from anyone who comes in for him. There's something wrong with our footballing culture in this country. We have always sat back and defended slender leads etc and struggled to control games.
We've stumbled our way through, i can't remember the last time England had a comfortable game
Ukraine 2021 tournament wise is that last I remember and those goals where set pieces
@@geckopubg you could argue the first game against serbia was comfortable, yes only 1-0 but we absolutely dominated
I can’t remember the last time England put on a very good performance under Southgate.
The two friendlies just before the Euros we were useless as well.
Southgate is way too cautious & negative.
He’s definitely a glass half empty, rather than a glass half full guy - plays not to lose, rather than plays to win.
2 warm up games we were shocking and we got demoted in the Nations League. We have been terrible for a long long time.
你的“形容詞”非常準確……
像一輛30年沒發動的古董車
🖤🖤🖤🖤🖤
For the very first time ever (in 34 + years of supporting England - Italia 90 was my first tournament), I would say that even if England somehow won the tournament, playing like this and fluking it here and there, I just wouldn’t care that much. I’m not looking for perfect performances, just bloody something that I can be proud of.
I know what you mean , I'd be overjoyed because we haven't won anythung in my lifetime, it would feel like reward for all those years of hurt.
However I don't think I could ever give Southgate any praise at all for it , it feels like I would be celebrating for all the past heartbreak of teams almost winning it , I wouldn't be celebrating what this team have done so to speak.
After the initial celebrating though , in the cold light of day , if we won playing like this and just winning on luck then I would feel slightly embarrassed, I've felt more passion in 98 when the 10 men gave absolutely everything to win , the tears of the goal by Campbell being ruled out, still hurts , because we deserved to win that night , I have more feelings over the memories of that night than anything the last three tournaments have provided.
I don't remember feeling pride of getting to the final a couple of years back , my ultimate memory is Southgate going out of his way to make sure we drew that game, he gave us no passion , so I feel none.
A loss in a knockout game in 98 makes me more proud of a team than any of Southgates games as manager.
Win or lose Southgate has to go
similarly if England somehow won playing in this fashion I think I'd feel overwhelmingly disappointed for everyone they beat. England have to aspire to be better but I don't know where the inspiration is coming from. I can't imagine what the fans watching these games live are thinking, watching this calibre of player completely freeze.
You arent an england fan steve. You must be seething that southgate won again. Semi final, final, quarter final, semi final (possibly better) but you would rather play more attacking and lose? Absolutely embarrassing @steve10
@@hyywe240 Why on earth would we lose if we played more attacking football? Even with the current system, the selection of players is confusing. Playing about 15 10s with Kane (essentially a 10)?
My nerves were shredded last night. It was awful to watch. Changes need to be made but SG will do nothing.
@@sensibility1174 I know, everyone is slagging the team off, personally I believe they deserve some credit for getting a result when obviously things aren't working out perfectly. Also if nothing else, it was good entertainment,
I couldn't watch the 2nd half, went and chilled in the garden, came back in after 45 mins to see if we had come back.... a minute later Bellingham scored.
We can't even play out from the back against Slovakia, 80% of our passes were in our own half, we gave the ball away, had no ideas going forward, left naturally wide attacking players (which we were crying out for) on the bench. It's too late to change all these problems especially with Southgate making the decisions. Zero chance of playing a decent game let alone getting through the next round.
The worst thing is that Southgate is oblivious to what is going on.
I wondered if he was trying to get them to lose, lol
Couldn't agree more watching the back line playing keep ball is infuriating.
@@cspeeddawg7763 I thought inviting disaster also,
It is not too late my friend, but Southgate must be bold now. He needs to do things which he has never done before.
It's incredible that he's the only one who can't see the problems and the very obvious solutions
Bellinghams goal was magic and he deserves credit for it, but we are missing the point that if the number 10 role was being played well for the 90 minutes we wouldnt need saving with 30 seconds to go would we.
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The number 10 role wasn’t the only thing that went horribly wrong tho yesterday we couldn’t progress the ball through the lines from the defence good enough, any team that presses us well will make life difficult for us
Bellingham was one of the only players trying to progress the ball up the pitch. The problems are further back. We had lots of possession without progressing the ball, we don’t seem to be able to play through the lines.
No we wouldn't. The team is dreadful. It isn't working.
Foden would look far better as that 10, Jude was struggling to get himself into the right pockets. I'm in the camp that I wanted Rice and Bellingham to be the midfield pair, but since Mainoo has come in and done well I doubt we'll see that at all at this point which means if we want Gordon on the pitch, Foden or Bellingham have to be left out if we intend on keeping this system. It's a ridiculous and unfortunate circumstance that Southgate has forced us into.
Neville, of all pundits, is the closest to outlining Southgate's mindset/overriding tactics but none have clearly indentified it... so here it is.
Southgate has instructed his defenders and DMs to avoid ‘risky’ passes in the centre of the pitch to avoid giving away possession in dangerous areas. That's it.
And this is why we don’t flow through the lines. This is why our defenders and DM players aren't playing balls forward or even sideways to other players in tight spaces which is how you create flowing moves and gain advantages and move up the pitch. So instead players feel they must choose the safe pass which of course means our flow is sideways and backwards (and at best up the wings) and often it ends with a defender or the keeper finally lumping it upfield because there are no more safe passes to be made.
So that is the passing/ ball retention mindset Southgate has drilled into the players and especially the 2 DMs and the defenders and goalkeeper.
That is why TAA will never play at RB under Southgate in any meaningful game. His passes are too high risk. That is why Mainoo and Rice weren't trusted to receive balls in tight areas in the middle of the pitch versus Slovakia
And given the lack of a left footed left back that's why the ball goes up that flank only to return to the CBs each and every time.
That's Southgate ball - will he change v Switzerland? No
The only hope is that he plays Gordon so we have a real outlet for getting down that flank into dangerous areas. Will he play Gordon? probably not.
So the idea will be that we won't gift Switzerland an easy goal - they will have to earn it. And because we have world class attacking talent the laws of probability suggest we will always score at least 1 goal in a game.
So that's it and that's how it's gonna be in every game
@@sittingonmysofa that is depressingly accurate. Slovakia packed the middle of the field and forced everything down the wings. Trippier was unable to do anything but try to dribble into the box. Kane is unbelievably slow which results in him missing chances and headers. Sad.
Exactly.
We couldn't score against Slovenia and no shots on target in 90mins against Slovakia, so we might not always score, but I agree with the rest
You could be right. The only uncertainty is whether these are tactical decisions, or whether the players are themselves too afraid to play the riskier balls. It also could be true that teams know quite well how we're going to play so crowd the midfield and then press hard on our wingers to prevent them turning and running. You do make a solid point though that our tactical approach, in part, is clearly built on solid defence. There isn't anything wrong with that, but it just isn't good to watch and unless your attackers are firing and will balanced, you're stuffed.
I think it's similar in some ways to the French approach under Deschamps. But as bad as they are playing it's not as bad as England. Southgate has to at least solve the left wing / Foden problem. So maybe Shaw will be the one change along with Guehi being unavailable. He surely can't play Trippier/Foden again on the left
The maddest thing is the gaslighting by Southgate and his players trying to claim they are playing well and have “control” of the game! Add to that Southgate arrogantly refusing to make the changes everyone can see are needed and the players whining about any criticism they receive. But yeah everyone should just be happy they scraped through with a vastly more talented squad than most other teams 🥱
The good thing is that no one appears to be buying into any of their garbage, and the fans are rightfully calling a spade a spade.
Admitting your mistakes is the first step to correcting them.
I’m disappointed how the players have bought into this ‘siege mentality’….‘no one believes in us…they just want to talk us down…we’ll show you!’ I thought these boys were smart…
THATS WHAT WINNERS DO. THEY WIN. JUST APOLOGIZE TO SOUTHGATE & ADMIT YOU WERE WRONG
This is the most over rated england team. Calling them favourites was a laugh
The pundits are practically apologising now for the criticism in the early games. Its ridiculous that the players have had a go back when the criticism is not personal and based on performance only. Do the players expect the media to push a narrative that performance levels have been good enough after what we have seen
People are forgetting how close England were to going 2-0. down…
But we didn’t 🤷♀️
who's forgetting? every pundit and fan I've heard has said the performance overall isn't good enough. mainoo aside everyone else was really below par
Nobody is forgetting
cos we can't string 2 passes together + Pickford has low IQ standing way out of his goal when our players are constantly losing the ball, including our defence.
Yes… because the team we were playing were utter garbage… any top team will walk straight through us
Neville is usually fairly sensible on this, but here he is part of the problem. Southgate is a fair-weather manager. He had a group of new players that he had a good prior relationship with, improved the atmosphere in the camp, and that went a long way. But he had easy runs and barely responded when things did get tougher. That's glaringly obvious now we're experiencing problems. Ultimately coaching matters, and we look lost. His ineptitude is impacting the players now
ABSOLUTE SOUTHGATE MASTERCLASS
Its so obvious to see where the issues are, yet the highest paid international manager can't see it. I am sure he a great guy, but his management has been very poor. The players are trying, but are shackled by bad team selection and no obvious game plan. We are going to go out with a bang when we play a decent team, and the Swiss are a decent team.
Not where the issues are, the manager IS the issue.
Stones and Walker can't even do some basic passing between them and they've played for City together for a long time. I don't know what's going on. I am not sure if it's down to tactics or team selection, the players simply can't make basic passes. Stones is going up for headers that Guehi has covered on the left side - why? - does Stones not trust Guehi?..... Stones is reliable A.F for City, it seems this past season of injuries has turned him into Jeff from the Dog and Duck.
He is a yes man that's it
GK - Pickford
LWB - Saka
LCB - Gomez
CB - Stones
RCB - Walker
RWB - Trent
RCM - Bellingham
LCM - Rice
LW - Gordon
ST - Kane
RW - Palmer
Gives Kane the space to drop into the 10 and allow Palmer and Gordon to run behind either out wide or cut inside and play more as a front 2 to give space to Saka and Trent
Park Rice on Xhaka for the whole game to keep him quiet and we beat the Swiss
In fact I’m convinced that team wins the whole thing.
When has 343 ever worked 😂 it’s like a make belief formation. It completely takes away of the main reason of 352 which is to pack the midfield and dominate possession. Some people are clueless about tactics and formations.
Brilliant set up for this particular game.
So you're putting one of your two centre mids on a man marking job all game, essentially leaving Bellingham as your only central midfielder?
You could start with either eze or gordan on the left if the starter is having a poor game make the change on 55 mins but Southgate won't do this unfortunately.
No Mainoo? Watkins deserves a go running the channels like he does for Villa.
5 games. The rot was seen in that friendly against Iceland. They've played exactly the same in euros.
It has been more than 5 games. England couldn't even lay a glove on the worst Brazil side in decades back in March. England has been terrible for this entire calendar year, and Southgate has done absolutely nothing to change the performances.
We got demoted in the Nations League.... we are in with the rubbish teams next time. Not France, Spain, Germany.... we're in with Iceland, Slovenia, Estonia.....etc....
The good thing about this is, going into our fifth game of the tournament, that we're all in it together: we all know England are labouring heavily and the team lacks cohesion and we're all desperate for it to come good.
I don't think anyone is blaming the players as individuals, we know they care and are trying. The problem is the obvious imbalance in the squad and in the system we're playing - and Gareth Southgate is where the buck stops there.
Exactly no-one is blaming the players. Some of them have underperformed but not with the way the team is set up with no one to even pass to
I competely disagree with you, in a wrong system and imbalanced team , u would usually still see brilliant individual sporadic moments , there was none zilch save for 2 moments , one was rice hitting the post , the other was bells wonder goal! Absolute Horror Show. Cowards trying to waste time
@@linusboyz I don’t know: you make it sound like they’re playing badly on purpose to annoy you.😄
We’ve lurched into the quarter finals though, haven’t we. I find it inconceivable that we wouldn’t be playing better in a more balanced team with a manager who was far better tactically.
@@nellypringle2875 yes to playing better , but only becoz it can’t get any worse. But this bunch of bums are pretty useless save for Jude. Kane is slightly above average and rice is average. The rest are just the purest garbage on planet Earth 🌍. Ps I like foden but he’s garbage so far.
Please put the hungry young players on. Defo Gordon to give us a left wing threat, maybe palmer, and sub kane ffs. We have pacey strikers on the bench desperate for a go
It would be nice to see him at least do this by 60 minutes if we aren't playing well. I don't think I can watch the next game. I'll give it a go, but if we are dross and we go 1-0 down - I am switching it off.
@@footyball66 i said at half time i was switching off if there were no subs but i ended up just turning the volume off and doing something else
@@footyball66 94th minute subs is how imaginative GS is
Calm down, think before you type. Kane is top 3 striker in the world right now.
Why would you bring on a sub with 120 seconds to go?
Teams do that when they are winning and want to run down the clock
Worked though
This tournament Switzerland are playing much better than England, England are literally hanging on with a lot of luck and eventually their luck will run out. I'm afriad Switzerland will put England out of their misery in their next game just like they did with Italy,
England (1) Switzerland (3) is my prediction
I predicted the same. England will score first and then the Swiss will hit back with 3.
And the lottery numbers?
@@finfog4590 I think it will be 3;1 to the Swiss, the English will score first from Kane...The Swiss will work the way back in and win the match with 3 goals as you say...
I think England will beat Switzerland
No chance.
Until Southgate drops Foden on the LW for Gordon to provide some balance we’ll struggle every game
It was telling we scored about 5 seconds after Foden was subbed.
It embarrassing that Southgate made no changes despite having no shots on target for about 90 minuets.
He’s out of his depth and it’s individual quality that has saved us
@@13tgd foden is world class in peps team, but he doesnt fit in England atm
@@13tgd bro foden is player of the year in prem league. Touch grass
@@13tgd you are deluded haha
We can all see that GS seems blind to where he's playing Foden isn't working. Yet every game same old shyte team
@@drsgme69 he has Rodri and Kevin in man city, two of the best game manager and passers in the world
Pickford is Englands most attacking player. He at least kicks it forward.
😂😂😂 all his passes are forward..just one went out of play😂😂
As non English..I think that's their best game so far..very positive attitude and attacking..they can only build from here.
Gary Neville looks like he's using a Gary Neville filter.
Clever!
Saying Gary Neville looks like Gary Neville. Well done mate
He does, it looks like some kind of snapchat filter I thought that. Almost cartoonish
Best goal I’ve ever seen. Special moment by a special team. If you look really hard you can see the team are really playing well. England beat a team ranked 57 in the world. Not that many teams are better when you come to think about it. People also have to realize that England topped the toughest group in the competition.
27 seconds from awful defeat but the Brummie Lion did what he does. UCL Winners just find ways to win - that's why Klopp, Pep, Don Carlo, Don Fabio, Gary Neville, Carra, Gerrard,
Scholes, Rio all love Trent & Jude together ( as they are this generations Pirlo to Del Pierio or Thuram to Zidane !).
Mate spot on about Foden was very poor. Cancelled a nice goal with a sloppy off side. Hit a freekick from a nice position into the wall.
What's gone wrong with the ManC boys.
Has pep worn em out?
Is there a cold virus in the squad sapping some of the energy to make runs behind & receive worldy passes from Trent?
Man City hater.. The best player of the tournament so far plays for Man City. (Rodri) The guy has ran the show in every game he played.
Lol throwing Trent's name in there thinking people wouldn't notice. He's average.
Rodri is special. Foden has been a lightweight. He needs to sit in a 3-5-2.
You're a not seriously putting Southgate in the same conversation as Klopp & Pep. Yes Bellingham scored a brilliant goal but that apart England were awful for all but 5 minutes.
Hop off Trent’s lap bro, it’s getting weird.
Luck that he deserves!! 😂😂😂 The man has lived off luck. Lucky results, lucky draws in tournaments, lucky to have a strong squad. The man is a passenger supported by has been players / mates.
Lucky with easy groups.
I'd rather have a lucky manager, rather than the unlucky ones of the past
@@garethnoble8513lucky or not Southgate has earned 28 million pounds since he became England managr and we haven’t won anything whatsoever… 3.5m a year for a clueless manager who relies on lucky wins and easy draws in every tournament… If this was any other person in any other job, they’d of been sacked after the first month, yet Gareth has lasted 8 years with absolutely no success… He needs sacking regardless!
@@DJ_Intrusion What if he's lucky and wins it? 🤣🤣, realistically all the teams we've played have played super deep with half decent players. Yes England haven't been great at breaking them down, but if they play Holland in the semis or Germany in the final they'll be a lot more space on the pitch as the other teams will attack more.
He’s been lucky for 8years Gary let’s be honest here
World Cup - knocked out by Croatia, then got easily beaten by Belgium in the 3rd place game. Easy run at the last Euros and at home for a lot of the games. Failed to beat an uninspiring Italian team at Wembley.
@@footyball66 so you agree with me?
@@Jimboslice35 yes.
@@footyball66 Could you do better than Southgate fool?????? Easy run to 2021 final, still had to win games
Southgate doesn't drill them to play any other way than this dross. This is why we are likely to go out.
I couldn't agree more. We all thought the game against Iceland prior to this tournament starting was just a blip. Sadly it's just England under Southgate. England have some brilliant attacking players in a really good quality squad & yet we are awful. I have just had enough of the whole England thing, it's embarrassing people trying to justify Southgate by saying a win is a win.
Totally agree with you! It's embarrassing having the England flags flying when the team play like this...... Something is very wrong.@@johnmichaelson9173
We're still in the tournament! And we will still win the Euros. It's coming home!
In 95 as a teen my brother and I met Rugby world cup winner Francois Pienar. He asked us what position we played and we were both stand-off (the play maker) he told us that to be a successful number 10 you had to be able to kick and pass of both left and right feet and hands. We spent the entire summer only using our left feet and hands until we were very proficient. This carried over into football. I ended up with a left peg that had more power than my right, it wasn’t quite as accurate but I could whip a cross and shoot and pass well with both feet. It still astonishes me to see the majority of multi millionaire footballers whose job it is to kick a ball around literally handicapping themselves to be one sided. Its embarrassing. It’s called muscle memory, why don’t they force train it at academies? Any winger or wing back should be at least proficient with both feet.
“The definition of 'insanity' is picking the same team over and over again and expecting a different performance
Einstein
"Two strikers" against stubborn teams in a low block. Toney instatly helped Kane upfront when he came on.
This might be an idea for the next game?
Play Trent as inverted right back. Suits him better. Then play rice and Jude as double pivot. When England has the ball Trent will invert into the midfield to help rice and allow Jude to move forward.
Exactly. It's seems so obvious...
Jude Bellingham in a double pivot would be a criminal waste of talent. You wouldn’t see his goal in the first game or half of the goals he scored for Madrid
When we went 2-1 up I thought he would take Toney off !!!!
Foden HAS to be benched. Enough of this "we have to get him in somehow," he's unreal but the reality is England play better without him
He is real. I've seen him 😊
Bellingham was Rubbish until he scored.
Yes but the fact he scored when it mattered most shows the character and mentality of the guy.
@@Windbadger or the luck. "who else" he sayS!! laughabe after the crap he was serving up
This has been Bellingham for most of the season. He was absolutely terrible in both el clasicos, for example, but he has consistently masked his subpar performances with lucky goals. Bellingham will give you moments of magic, but he is not the guy you build a team around, and he is most certainly not the successor to Zidane.
@@Windbadger Who knows what the score might have been if we had an adequate number 10 though. The game would be completely different as a number 10 shouldn’t be hiding from the ball.
@@imouto4hireagreed. The game would be completely different if we had someone else in that position and we might not have needed a last minute winner. People are so short sighted.
Four poor performances using the same 10 starting players and the same system. How much evidence do you need to realise that these players in this system are performing to their limit? There is no other gear. Expecting anything different is another victory for hope over experience. Problem is that there is no obvious plan B for the system and chances are he'll just play the same way and hope for some more luck.
What was Plan A?
Everyone hating so much, yes we’ve had disturbing performances but this is football. It only takes one match to get back in form. Hopefully now Gareth sees the changes that need to be made.
The only glimmer of hope I have is that Switzerland won’t sit back in a low block and will come out and play (and they should, they are a superior team to England with a better manager) as I think we are obviously set up to counter teams. It’s the only way Southgate knows as he doesn’t have the tactical ability to deal with teams that sit back. The only way we go through the next game is the quality of individuals and a lot more luck IMO
Counter attacking teams play out from the back with fast decisive forward passes. England haven't played a single one yet
@@kevh7941 The Swiss will hopefully not notice our back line is suspect...Walker looks dead poor, Stone's distribution is wonky, maybe the years are catching up..Yakin the Swiss Coach will have observed that you can get at them...but maybe not..
Has England ever had a Phil Esposito moment? Back in 72, It was Canada vs USSR in what came to be known as the "Summit Series" East vs West cold war etc. Canada known for their hockey dominance played the Soviets in an 8 game series in Canada and the USSR. The Canadians were overconfident and got surprised by the Soviets. In the end Canada won the series but the last game in Canada was a huge moment for the country. Phil Esposito had a post game interview on the ice in front of a booing Canadian crowd very unhappy with a loss. The guy pretty much spilled his guts, talking about how disheartened he was with the countries fans. Said the team was giving it their all but the Soviets were really good, and it wasnt easy out there. Lets just say hearing this guy lay it on the line and plead with Canada to get behind the team and help push them forward galvanised the country leading to the series win. Any way to end this, just get behind your team Southgates gone after this tournie. You have the talent to win but you dont have the best team. And the best TEAM usually wins this tournament.
I always praise England and never scrutinize our brilliant team .
Southgate's biggest mistake was only to bring one injured left back Luke Shaw. Second was not picking Grealish in the squad who can play along side with Foden. When Saka not playing good enough, both wings of England were paralized in attacking and putting players in the middle under high pressure from opponent's defenders. Sofar England's goals were started from right wings to create space and opportunities for Jude and Harry.
He has got further then the last manager since 96
It definitely had vibes of Iceland 2016 game- I went back and watched that game and noticed how many players England played who either were coming to an end of their career, or certainly their international career. Rooney, Sturridge ,Vardy wiltshire Ali, rose, dier, Hart. I wonder how many players in this England side might also have come to an end of their international careers…. Possibly Kane, walker, Trippier- this 2024 team is in much better shape than 2016 but unless Southgate changes something we,re going out against Switzerland
The whole Trent can't defend thing.... So bored. He is the best defender in the world .. no.. but he was a good enough right back to help Liverpool win the champions league which is the highest standard of football there is. In the next game England should play Trent at RB, walker beside stones and Gomez at LB
I heard two good points this morning, one was that by reaching a semi final and final in recent tournaments it is about par, its the least we could expect with these players. The other was that the England platers are complaining that with all the criticism and pressure to win is difficult, well yeah, youre playing for your country of course it is difficult.
Capricious and bungling is how he should have described Southgate
This is the same gary neville who said kyle walker is the best right back in the WORLD!!! LOL he got taken apart by that slovakian guy for the entire game. LOL
Southgate is too conservative and defensive in style. They retreat to a low block when they need to take the game to the opposition. They are unbalanced and they don’t take any risks. Play Trent at RB, Mainoo and Bellingham in central midfield with Foden at 10. Gordon on left and Palmer on the right. But he won’t do that.
Again, why do people insist that Trent is in any way a defensive player. Mental.
Excellent observations
The scenario looks similar to the 1990 WC where England got to the SF without setting the world on fire. England's group had an identical outcome to their group in this tournament. In the last 16 they won it at the death after extra time. Will the QF in this tournament go the same way with a scrambled victory in extra time again? The way they are playing now (and I hope it changes and they step up a gear) a similar outcome is possible.
Why are none of the 200 English journalists asking Southgate why he isnt playing Gordon and Palmer.
We wont beat Switzerland
Are you on drugs? Of course we will!!
@@England-fan01 How do you think we will beat them
It worries me that the players or the coach don’t seem to see what the whole nation sees.
Look at the position of toney vs kane when bellingham hit that overhead kick..
Ypu really have to rate Southgate for his management style. I mean, only this guy knew that bringing on Tony at the last minute, he knew that Tony would come on and make a huge difference. 🤣
Don’t underestimate the role of Toney in the Bellingham goal. Blocked the defender from getting close to Jude, and was the only one to follow in the shot in case it was saved or hit the post. I think he would get the best out of Kane, if we can find some way to get them both in the side.
Why not move Walker in to centerback and have Trent Alexander as rightback
I don't understand why he is playing a way which means the possibility of progression is lower.
As a neutral, I think the biggest issue in attack has been that they always cut inside from the left with Foden & Trippier. It makes defending against England a lot easier
England are like a Rolls Royce with the hand brake on being driven by my mum
It's not the fact that there's noise that is the problem for the team. It's that few critics say what they'd do different. Tell us how YOU would improve performance. That's constructive. My view? Play the long ball to Toney. He can hold it up and that'll beat the press and create more chances. Passing it around at the back isn't getting us anywhere. (International puzzle compiler)
The main reason we have been performing so bad is because the manager is playing the players out of position just to fit his defensive formation, the manager uses 2 def-mids , where he didn't need to in the group, ,, but that's the past , he doesn't have the players for the formation he uses , so we are getting these performances, inst and of using the formation that fits the players , may be a 4-3-3 , instead of sticking to the 2 def-mids or a 4-2-3-1 ,but maybe it's the reason he didn't make the subs at half time, he was so lucky yesterday, and we can't win the tournament on luck alone
Southgate is on 5 million a year. It's unbelievable.
My thoughts exactly 😫
agree especially when you consider how poor his CV is. He's only been a league manager for 3 seasons, which he was poor and that was 17 years ago. Probably explains why he seems to be a novice regards starting tactics, formations and dealing with in game changes, the reason is because he is a novice.
Southgate's persistence with Trippier is a real problem (Its not Tripper's fault btw). The backs get the balls to wingers > the wingers get it to the strikers. Anyone sniping a goal from behind the strikers is a bonus. We have backs playing out of position and no effective wingers starting. The subs all play brilliantly when given a chance, but doing that on 85 mins is daft as a brush.
Neville is a friend of a Southgate no criticism towards the manager, last world cup when England got knocked out, He blamed Pickford, not a single blame to Southgate
Southgate picked Pickford
Same as when Ole was united manager
It seems crazy that with our squad, Switzerland are the favourites on Saturday. Then I remember Southgate is in charge and it all makes sense
They are just starting to gell together now I'm just hoping they get it right now.
Put foden as the bloody 10. When bellingham plays 10, he literally just either stands in the box waiting for crosses or occasionally runs around in circles in the midfield, generally diving once he gets tackled.
Bellingham can not play line breaking passes, and he can't penetrate a defence centrally with his dribbling either, which is literally why he just passes it wide and stands in the box.
Southgate is the problem, not the players. He plays an old fashioned style of football. Its HIS coaching thats the issue
Southgate is the Sunak of football; the unpopular choice, well out his depth, under experienced and over promoted, running around telling everyone “the plan is working”. Everyone else can see there is no plan/it’s not working, but hes getting increasingly incredulous that you’re asking for better.
We are not the only team stumbling through
Southgate has had to be forced to change his system, which clearly isn't working. It looked much better with Toney next to Kane, and Kobbie was the best England player on the pitch. You'll know all you need to about Southgate if he reverts back to his failed system against Switzerland.
Nice interview - balanced.
This should be the 11 for Switzerland;
Pickford
Walker Stones. Konsa. Gomez
Wharton
Bellingham. Mainoo
Foden
Palmer. Gordon
We was seconds away from crashing out the tournament completely embarrassed A moment of magic saved us.
NOT JUST A COLLECTION OF PLAYERS, A "TEAM" WAS FORGED YESTERDAY. JUST APOLOGIZE TO SOUTHGATE & ADMIT YOU WERE WRONG
Bang on Gary.. We're done for unless we improve 💯 against the Swiss
I’d love to see a 4-1-2-1-2 with Gallagher holding rice and Bellingham in the center Foden cam n Toney or Watkins with Kane up top
What's the point in putting TAA at right back to "whip crosses" into the box and "start play", when your striker isn't moving into the box and making runs in behind in the first place? We need to give Toney or Watkins a start, both have been more effective that Kane whilst playing much less than he has.
is Gordon going to get a kick of the ball keeps best players on bench
If Southgate isn’t sacked tonight (literally) then England have no chance against the Swiss. None.
Southgate is the worst manager in this tournament by MILES, it is truly unbelievable how he has kept his job for this long because he is genuinely less competent than the average drunk English fan, and that’s not even a joke or exaggeration.
As an Irishman I am praying that England keep him after they get knocked out, because I never want to see England win something. And for as long as Southgate is in charge, I can guarantee that won’t happen.
Genuine question, what makes you think England have 'no chance' against Switzerland?
@@Jordan-nl5tphave you not been watching us?
well they wont keep him so you can stop with the praying.
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Irish idiot, get it into that head of yours - England will be knocking Switzerland out and we'll definitely be winning this tournament, no matter what.
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Think we had kane in goal and pickford upfront at one point... madness
If Southgate starts with the same team on Saturday he is going to find just how much the fans hate what he is doing to Englands reputation. He should make at least four changes or make NO mistake, the Swiss will murder us. The front line needs to be Palmer, Toney or Watkins and Gordon. Either Foden or Bellingham need benched and Kane needs to be left in the Hotel. While he has scored two goals it has been others that earn the credit for both of them. He has spent 4 games basically wandering around the pitch, hardly ever breaking into a trot let alone running, and spends more time in the centre circle than where he should be, in the opposing penalty box.
The relationship between the players/manager and the media/fans was terrible for years. Southgate and the lads worked so hard to get it back to a good place but for some reason this tournament they seem intent on undoing all that good work. Feels like they had this mentality within the group before the tournament even started, and I'm not sure why or where it's come from. Such a shame after the feel-good vibes we've had in the past few tournaments.
Were like our Country Broken nothing works 👎🏴
Its coming home BELEIVE come on the lads 🙌
Don't believe now.
Give up.
If you ignore results against minnows, when was the last time we really performed well? And how many times has that happened?
Got to put Gordon on for Foden. Bellingham to start with Foden coming on to replace him if required.
Bellingham thinks he’s the best thing since sliced bread he’s a prima Donna
He is an incredible player, he’s at Real Madrid at only 21
Apart from his goals, his rubbish. Biggest Pr fraud overrated player
@saffiejallow8858 Spoken like a clueless mong 👍
International football will never be as entertaining as watching club football but what Southgate is giving us is nearly unwatchable.
The fullbacks have invented this game of football tennis, you pass it to me I will pass it back to you, you pass it back to me I will pass it back to you, you pass it back to me ......
why why why...the net is at the other end of the field for goodness sake, if you can't think of anything more adventurous than this, football isn't your thing.
No... Southgate has invented this.
COME ON ENGLAND WE GOT THIS!!!!
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Why are we listening to the "expert opinion" of one of the former engand coaches that just 10 short years ago helped Roy Hodgson fail in getting England out of their world cup group and 8 years ago helped mastermind our euro 2016 exit at the hands of iceland. Yes we are playing badly and have been lucky but we're in the quater final which is the minimum Gareth has got us to in EVERY tournament he has been in charge of.
We're a mess. Stones going up for headers that are clearly Guehi's to deal with. We can't keep possession. We can't get into the opponents final third. We pass it around at the back and as soon as we play a pass forward we lose it. Then the opponent makes 3 passes and create a chance. It's atrocious.
These players must know and understand the criticism. They must know the tactics are not as good as the tactics they are used to a club level.
We have a very lucky manager, as has been proved in previous tournaments, but I think it will all come to an abrupt end with a big loss unless he changes.
This guy was coach for England's defeat to Iceland in 2016. He knows all about woeful 😂😂😂😂
No he wasnt.
No he wasn't