The Most Overlooked Gun Is Actually Incredible!
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Hey bud what caliber was you using? 😊
@@jerryparkey41996.5 Çreedmore I think is what I heard 1time
6.5 PRC @@jerryparkey4199
@@jerryparkey4199that was a 6.5 PRC
@@jerryparkey4199 small as he could find
Thanks for reviewing my gun! I love mine in 7mm Rem Mag. I'm a new shooter but my friend helped me with load dev, and he said as much about the mag, tons of space. It shoots every ammo I've thrown at it and has never failed in any way. That's why I bought it as my first gun, I'm 40 and I don't need an awkward beginner stage using 400$ guns, buy once, cry once.
I hope you can keep it at one friend, if the buy and build bug bites you, it's an expensive habit.
Everyone will justify their purchase even if it’s a bad one 😂
@@joshuajohnson6220I respectfully disagree: I've bought and then sold a couple of rifles that weren't what I had expected or hoped for.
@@trikael Agreed.
hows the felt recoil with the 7 rem mag?
Sakos have always been tack drivers... they are favourites of NZ hunters. They aren't fussy on ammo either. The Finns really know how to make a good rifle.
I have a sako 85 finlight that shoots 3-4 inch groups . I spent $1500 on different ammo and only one shot close to 1” that was hornady sst. I’m not impressed with my first experience with sako . Oh and the cases hit my scope . So much for great engineering.
@@pauldickson1495
As a gm: I can tell you that in case you did your part of the work to make it group and while properly maintained, your rifle must have be the rare oditity or rather lemon! You should have sent it straight back to Stoeger, while it still was under warrant, as usually most, if not all Sako’s and T3’s will shoot sub-moa out of their factory boxes! The few I came across in my 40 plus yrs of gm, usually had long, skinny lw-brl’s’ and I can count them on two, if not one hand!
@@johanneskolenbrander8288 ok. I’m not sure what the problem is . One thing I do know is it has a very long throat . When I’m loaded to maximum length that will fit in the magazine I’m still 150 thou off the lands . I cannot touch the lands the bullet would basically fall out of the casing .
@@pauldickson1495 I’ve herd that about a lot of 85’s shoot it out at further range 4-500m see how it goes out there
@@MrTheBigOx ok. I’ll try 300. See how she goes .
I bought an S20 about a year and a half ago. Shortly after getting it, I left a comment on a Backfire video begging him to do a review on it! It’s an amazing rifle!
My ruger number 1 in 2506 shoots dime size groups
lol I did the same thing it just seems so overlooked for how perfectly it fits in the market now days
@@wilmamcdermott3065my ruger american in 7mm rm does too.😂
Can’t tell you how happy I was when I saw you were reviewing the S20. It’s been top of my wish list for about a year now. Almost cried when you threw that dirt in there though. Thanks again Jim
They are about a grand on europtic right now.
Sako, Tikka and Blaser are the most popular rifles here in Europe. It would be great to see you review a Blaser R8 👍🏼
The Merkel Helix Speedster too
You get more for your money with a Sako. Other than the straight pull the Blaser isn’t all that much. Basically the Apple of the gun scene.
By far my favorite rifle. The price for what you get is amazing. A flawless working action with a chassis / stock hybrid, a magazine which functions just as smoothly as the action. My con and maybe another reason it's overlooked is it feels plasticky. Also I wanted to test the Sako cold hammer forged barrel claim about no barrel break in needed. During the first 10 days I shot 20 rounds per day with no cleaning in between. My group size and point of impact did not change. I will never buy another brand again.
Thank you. Finally someone is giving some love to the S20. Got This in the tactical stalk in 7 mm remington mag. Hand loaded and pulled a .22 inch group with 175 grain berger and h1000 powder. Under a quarter inch for a magnum in a factory gun, is outstanding accuracy. 👌
GREAT REVIEW!! I bought a plain Sako synthetic in .270, 14 years ago.
I used 8-10 shots to sight in, then shot a 5 shot group I could cover with a nickel(100yds).
It has made trips to Kansas & back to Alabama a few times, and is my main rifle in Alabama. Each buck I've shot died quickly, if not in it's tracks.
The amazing thing is that I have NEVER had to adjust the scope! Ever! (Nikon Monarch 3.5-10).
It has held perfect zero all these years.
I am still impressed with it, But! This S20 set-up has my buying trigger finger itching!!😅
Sako: the Lexus line over the Tikka Toyota. Great shooters for sure
old model toyota yes not last few years sorry.
Haha. I call my tika the Toyota hilux of rifles. Nothing fancy lookin but it plain works! Great analogy mate
I also have the older version of both ( Toyota & Tikka) and will not ever get rid of either. V8 & 308.
Na, not really
Tikkas are every bit as good or better than sako’s.
Hand loading, load development is the #1 thing for sub moa along with a quality low poundage crisp trigger. Many things effect accuracy but those two play such a huge part for any rifle.
So does a good rifle that isn't fussy. This sounds like a rifle that a person would have a ton of confidence in.
Thank you for finally reviewing this rifle. I bought one last year before hunting season. I’m a relatively new hunter and wanted one single gun to last my whole life. I couldn’t find many reviews on this one but every one that I did was completely positive, so I bought it. Couldn’t be happier with it, it’s my baby now lol
I bought a Sako S20 about a year and a half ago, in 6.5 creedmoor. Its accuracy is very similar to yours - many half inch groups, almost all within 1 moa. Mine is the Precision stock model. A little heavy, but it's such a great shooter I don't mind that at al. It's an amazing rifle.
Does the stock rattle much?
If you ever want to lighten it up for a hunt, you can just buy the hunter stock and switch them out in 10 minutes. They’re a couple hundred bucks
Thanks for vindicating my purchase of about a year ago. I got the same model, 6.5 PRC in the S20 Hunter, factory cerakoted. I'm a new hunter and got my first whitetail last fall with it. Have since grabbed a few extra mags and added a muzzy and the precision foreend for more customization. Smoothest action I've ever operated. One complaint is the magazines kind of rattle a bit. Otherwise it's flawless. Cheers!
You don’t understand how convenient this video is 🤣. I’ve been looking for a rifle that I can hunt with at close ish range and longer range that doesn’t break the bank and I saw on Backfire plus a few days ago that you mentioned it to someone on there in 300 win mag which is exactly what I was looking for and then you posted this today and I think I might be sold on getting one now lol
The most overlooked rifles in the US are Steyr rifles (not just the Scout). Extremely smooth, great safety, and very accurate. They get almost no press in the US.
Agreed. I have the Pro Hunter “mountain” in .308.
I’ll be honest, have never heard of them or seen them at a show yet. European? I’ll keep an eye out next time I’m at hunt expo.
@@mwoolsey5 Yes. They partnered with Jeff Cooper to offer the first "official" production Scout rifles and they've made military sniper rifles for decades (SSG). They are based out of Austria and primarily known as the makers of the AUG combat rifle.
However, their standard bolt rifles are really nice. My father-in-law has an older one that I killed my first deer with in .270 win. I have a Scout in .308 as well as a THB which is a 20" .308 with heavy barrel. Both are extremely nice rifles and shoot very well.
Junk. Wonky design. Cheap components. No thanks.
@@flyingirish31😂 That was very specific, thanks.
Great video! Thank you for feeding my confirmation bias! I bought one in 300 Win Mag at the advise of a friend. I already had a Tikka in 6.5CM that I really liked. Love that action! I wanted a larger caliber for bigger game, but I was honestly a bit intimidated about the recoil, after shooting a friend's 7mm Rem Mag with no muzzle devise. With a good compensator or suppressor, the Sako S20 in 300 WM is quite tame. I can shoot it all day long without the abuse. Very impressed with the accuracy. It's certainly more accurate than I am.
Still kicking myself for not buying one of these when they were on closeout at my local shop for like $900 about a year ago
Look at eruooptics, they are still very reasonable.
I got a Tikka UPR for a similar deal 1299 instead of 1699
@@mrs.vasquezzI owned both S20 and UPR. Now I just own an S20. It’s that much better.
@@flyingirish31 can you elaborate
@@mrs.vasquezzthe S20 shoots as well, is lighter, and cheaper. Pretty easy choice. Sold my UPR for what I paid for S20 with both stocks. No brainer.
One of my biggest regrets, is not grabbing a used S20 in 300 Win Mag, with both stocks, for $1100. Really didn’t need another rifle, especially in 300 Win Mag, but I can’t believe I let that stop me!
Both stocks?
@@gabell727 they had 2 different stocks for it. One they called a hunter and the other a precision.
@@johnknouse8846 I think both stocks are virtually impossible for a left handed person to use, right?
@@gabell727 not sure. Its a right handed bolt throw, but the precision type stock they have may be more “left friendly”.
I bought one, when they were first available. I paid 1600. Now that they are being reviewed, there is a renewed interest, but now they are being closed out, at many places.
Are you ever going to review the Benelli Lupo ? I've read mixed reviews, some stating it's too flimsy others saying it's a long range rifle disguised as a hunting rifle. Would love your 2cents on it.
it would be great to see you review the Australian made Lithgows if you can
Have one in a 308, it’s great!
@@Redpepper7376 yeah me to and 223 and 22lr
In Finland: What is the point to make a rifle, which doesn't shoot sub MOA at 100yrds? When the Lynkx Target from Pirkan Ase Limited came to market, they guaranteed that it shot on hole at 100 meters. 😁
I have found my Tikka Tx .243 shoots very close to this when I do my part. You can sometimes come across an off the shelf rifle that shoots almost everything good and somethings excellent. While rare, they do exist. Back in the 90's I went through several factory rifles, with factory ammo looking for that shooter. Something I found was in every shooter I came across, which weren't a lot was the firing pin strike on the primer was dead center and exactlly the same every time, (comparing spent rounds and primer strike) Coincidence? I don't really believe in coincidence any longer. This wasn't just in centerfire rifles but the handguns I found to be most accurate also. Maybe it was just me believing this but it was something I initially noticed by accident. I wasn't as knowledgeable about weapons at the time. Still no pro but I am experienced.
Edit: With all that said the most accurate rifle I have owned to date was a Sako action custom build .22ppc.
shoots great , has no issues , isn't bullshit expensive ....better get rid of it, can't make content with that 😆
Hey! You're reviewing my rifle! I picked up a Sako S20 Hunter recently, chambered in 6.5PRC with the 24.4" fluted barrel. I love it! Your description of the action, feeding and ease of use is absolutely spot on - I have a semi-custom 30-06 based on a Borden Timberline action, and the S20 feeds better, doesn't jam-feed if loaded slow (the Borden really needs to be slammed home or it sticks/misfeeds) and the Sako safety is fantastic.
I like the ability to lock the bolt - ensures it won't open even slightly when going through brush
The option to unlock the bolt and clear the chamber is a great safety featture
The "fire" indicator is in the right position to be seen at all times, even when you're behind the scope
I wish all my rifles had a similar safety mechanism.
My old Mauser-actioned Parker-Hale .375H&H has a three-position safety, but the Sako version is slicker and arguably "safer".
You can't unintentionally knock the saftey past safe with unlocked bolt like you can with the Mauser safety - the Mauser safety will go all the way from safe to fire if you push it just a little bit too hard. Easy to do when your hands are cold or if you're wearing gloves.
I live in the UK, so acquiring new rifles is a slow, complex & heavily bureaucratic process otherwise I'd buy myself another couple of S20's in other chamberings. The 6.5PRC is just about perfect for UK deer-hunting though, so I'll happily stick with that for now
Another great video from Backfire - please keep them coming
I love mine....true timber strata camo..so much less plastic feel.
.308,20" fluted barrel...hunter backend...precision fore end...love the wider profile.on the front..and the m lock's
Fluted bolt...changed the super sako trigger for an even better bix 'n andy...fortmeier bipod,topped with a meopta optika6 4.5-27x50...just love it...5shot group .4moa...3shot .12...😮😮
Greetings from the Netherlands...oh i forgot the Roedale muzzlebrake😂😂
So glad to see this review! I traded a rifle in at my local gun range for the S20 two days ago. I was able to get mine in 6.5 Creedmoor with both stock configurations for $1340. I didn't know anything about these, but the dealer said it was a very nice overlooked rifle, and that I would not regret the purchase. Thanks for the review.
In the uk, Sako and Tikka are pretty much the standard for professional deer hunters. Most owners will attest to their accuracy
So thrilled this rifle is getting the attention it deserves. The 60° bolt throw, 3 lug bolt. The stock, the interchangeable stock. The caliber selection, something for everyone. And the accuracy. Everything was so great about it, my friend bought one in 300 winmag and is topping it with a Vortex Viper PSTII 5-25x50. We can't wait to get the scope mounted and dialed in.
Thank you Jim for this review I had to get one, 1 box of shells zeroing it in 1/2" moa at 100yds no problem. Absolutely love this rifle!
I've sold a few of these at the gun store I work at, but have never shot one myself. I've heard NOTHING but happy things from the customers that have bought them, it's one heck of a rifle and honestly not as expensive as it could justifiably be. Those who have them can't stop singing their praises to me at the gun counter.
Sako have always been the top dogs as far as production rifles go….they are just in a different league. My father has a very very old Sako forrester in .22-250…..still shots one whole groups and is as smooth as any gun built now. They are just built different 👌🏻👌🏻
@1:45 thank you for going straight to accuracy first!
Hi Jim, i really like you're Reviews. Sako would be an option for my next Rifle.
I would like to see a Review of the CZ600 on you're Channel. It is a really lightweight (if not the lightest) Platform in the affordable Price-Range (at least in Germany) I own a CZ600 Ergo in 223, which i love for foxing. It is a little picky regarding Ammo, but with the right one it is definetely Sub-MOA. The Stock is more on the lower End, but i think the overall Platform is great.
Straight to the point .. No bullshe*tt talk... good vid guys
"1 moa" is out of a sold bench, taking the shooter out of the equation as much as possible. My savage 10HS absolutely has no problem doing 1 moa or better. I'm not that good.
Hi Jim. I have the exact same rifle in 300 WM and I also have both stocks and the forends. I bought the sport stock but I also purchased the precision stock and forend as well. And just recently I ordered its muzzle break too. I have a Leupold CD5-CL 4.5-14X56. I believe this was my 4th rifle since started. They also have A100 coming out this year, but it is priced three times as this just like SAKO QUEST. You have to get another piece that would sit on top of the Pic rail so you can mount your scope onto it. I bought mine from Eurooptics and rep was so helpful getting me everything I needed to get the rifle set uo and ready to go. I also have a SAKO TRG 42 338 LM with a NF.
Off topic but: For years I've stuck to 300win, 30-06 or 308 win (270, 338 wm are there too) because those were the cartridges you could find on the shelf or borrow off somebody anywhere in the US or Canada when you left yours at home or West Jet didn't bother to bring your bags to the hunt. But now, after the ammo shortages, is that still true? Does the little hardware store in Jewel, Kansas or nowhere, Manitoba still have those or did they restock with creeds and 300 prc?
Still early on shooting my AR, but I did five shots barely in the head zone at 150 yards. So that's gotta be like 3 MOA or something and I was so excited. I am upgrading the trigger, optic, and barrel, but that was all planned from the beginning. I'll keep working and get sub 2 MOA soon!
Depending on the ammunition your shooting 3moa may be all you get, the cheap 55 grain target ammunition is frequently 2-3moa. I’m always for upgrades but if you’re on a budget making sure it’s not an ammunition issue first can save you some money.
@@jaydunbar7538 And one thing is that most 1/7 twist barrels just wont like 55 grain ammo.
1/9 would be preferable twist for those.
My 1/7 HK and Lothar barrels have done overall very well with 55s.
Overstability is not a problem, just that the bullet defects pronounce in high tw barrels. But it is mere percents up to 10% which is not much, since the crappiest bullets shoot bad anyways.
Bulk ammo (Norma, Geco, GGG, SB, etc.) all shoot 1.3 to 1.8moa average 5 shot groups. Just test which ammo your gun likes and buy a lot.
Great Rifle, well deserving of some LOVE with all of the features it has. The Precision Stock can be outfitted with an ARCA(need the right length and some creative thinking) and picatinny rail with the M-lok slots on the bottom. With my addition of the ARCA plate this rifle ticks all of the boxes I was looking for(QD cups, Adjustable length of pull and comb, threaded muzzle for a CAN, integrated scope mounting, cerakote finish). Only gripe is the aesthetics, and make sure the stock/action screws are torqued before a hunt or range session.
I’ve been Eyeing this rifle in the 6.5 PRC
Man youre starting to push that 1 million sub mark.. You have come a long way since i started watching. Good on you
Sorry for spamming your feed, one more question, if anyone here can help - this rifle, when taken down into two parts - how long is the action/barrel portion? I'm getting that Savior Equipment 'Ultimate Guitar Case', which is 45", and want to know if this rifle will fit into an even shorter guitar case. Purpose is discretion, not concealment, just FYI.
Is the barrel the same length for 30-06, 7mm, 6.5PRC and 300WM? Or is it like the Tikka where 30-06 and under have a 20" barrel, and everything over 30-06 has 24"
Thanks guys.
Agree on the feeding principle. I also use this when choosing cartrigde. The new «straight» cartrigdes like the 300wsm are not good for reliability. The 6,5x55 and 3006 are much better for hunting with their more cone design.
Also, the systems where you safely can have a cartrigde in the chamber, like the Blaser R8, is soo much better for hunting. No making noise and getting stressed out loading the rifle.
My favorite rifle too! The action is so smooth! I got mine on clearance at my local fleet farm for 1000 Dollars!
Fleet farm in rapid city, sd?
@@allthingsconsidered3211 That is a really nice store in Rapid City... better than the one we've got in Apple Town, WI
Mine is on order. This review sort of made that decision for me. Really looking forward to it. Up here in North Idaho it's unusual to get a long shot while hunting, but that's what the range is for. I'm just looking forward to holding quality. So, thanks!
Thanks for the review. It put me over the edge and I finally bought my first Sako. It helps that Eurooptic has them for $700 off. Thanks again for taking the time and money to do reviews like this.
The S20 is perfectly suited for 300WM and 7RM.
The extra weight in those chamberings is an asset. A perfect rifle for anyone who wants unimpeachable quality right out of the box with no interest in after market upgrades or modifications.
My Sako A7 desperately needed an after market stock to realize its potential.
The S20, though not a budget rifle, is a very high value pick compared to its competition.
The Sako 90 is prohibitively expensive for most people… it’s pushing into semi-custom cost territory.
After the last hunting season, I sold my Christensen Ridgeline and bought an S20 in the precision stock set up & 6.5prc. All I can say is WOW it's a shooter, completely different gun- weight, style, ergo, intention but I have 0 Buyer remorse. Sako s20 is underrated and probably my favorite gun I've personally ever shot.
I LOVE both Tikka and Sako. I have many and they never dissapoint
Good to see our sakos are performing well.
I got my S20 in 300WM as a floor model at cabelas for $950... I took it to SA with me for plains game and it performed amazingly. I absolutely love it
The American firearms industry is so strong with manufacturers its easy for quality European guns to be over looked. We get these here in Australia but are expensive, a nice Tikka is just as good.
Bloody nice though I wouldn't say no if it was in the budget 😂
Yes the problem with sakos is that they chew up all the money for the scope and rings.
With the Tikka you can get all of it.
I believe they use the same barrels from their own factory.
And the aftermarket possibilities for the Tikka t3x is sooo much bigger.
So in the end my Sako 85 may be cheaper than my T3x 😅
They were on sale a while back and I kick myself for not grabbing one.
Financial end of year soon, you may get another chance.
One thing to remember is that there can be significant delay after SAAMI approval to the CIP approval for new cartridges coming from U.S. That’s why there hasn’t been 7 PRC from Sako yet. Now that 7 PRC is CIP approved I bet they will take it to the Tikka and Sako line up soon.
I have always been confused about your concern with feeding the gun before you shoot. I live in Kentucky and a Marine that spent my whole life hunting and shooting guns.We simply load a round and put firearm on safety before entering the hunt area or hot zone. Is it your local laws that require waiting till you are ready to shoot to chamber a round?
I have been shooting the sako S20 in 300 win mag with great accuracy. A very unique adjustment of the trigger pull 1/2 inches forward and backwards in the action. the rifle will fit every person, short stature to Russians with 15 inch plus trigger length pull. sako S20 accuracy standards are 5 shot group, (not three) in under an inch group @ 100 yards. the weight of the rifle being slightly heavy, is not a bad thing in the 300 win mag with a break. the magazines are crazy cheap like $30. was told that sako spent a ton of money and time on the research of the sako S20 which had a lot to so with the sako 90. amazing new technology !
I can vouch for Sako rifles…I have two of them. Both Sako 85’s….a Classic in .243 and a Laminated Stainless in 7mm08. Worth the money imo. Awesome guns.
Great review as always. One note: the Weatherby Vanguard is not really in the same price range, you showed it on the graphic regarding weight. Vanguards are easy to find well under $1000 the street price on the Sako 20 is almost $1300. Not to take away anything from its value or performance, clearly it is worth every penny and maybe more. Loading the S20 with a hotter and heavier cartridge, the extra weight might be appreciated with .300 Win Mag, 30 PRC, etc.
Bought my son one in 6.5PRC. With a SilencerCo can, it drives tacks and drops whitetail like a 300 win mag with whatever ammo he puts in it
As an owner of several Tikkas, I have regretfully been quite disappointed with the Sako S20. I found that when I adjust the trigger to 2.5 lbs or less, the cocking mechanism will not catch resulting is very dangerous slam fire situation when cycling the action. Support from Beretta for this issue was nonexistent.
I love my Sako rifles.
Got a 6.5 that I got both stocks with when I bought it new as Sako was offering that incentive. I can switch stocks, zero and precision stays. I’m shooting in 3s with handloads. 4s and 5s with factory loaded ammo.
It hates ELDMs is all but I hate Hornady so that works out. It shoots the 156 EOL crazy well.
It’s a TRG style chassis. If you know you know.
Oh and I paid 1299.99 plus tax.
Two mulies I shot with it, one at 92 yards and another at 692 yards. That 156 did exactly what it was designed to do.
Got a steyr pro hunter in 243 and it's like silk, bought it over a M12 and a Sako, it fed better and was smoother. Though the set trigger is a bit too light. Sako is quality shot a 270 in NZ a few years back.
Got a 6.5 that I got both stocks with when I bought it new as Sako was offering that incentive. I can switch stocks, zero and precision stays. I’m shooting in 3s with handloads. 4s and 5s with factory loaded ammo.
It hates ELDMs is all but I hate Hornady so that works out. It shoots the 156 EOL crazy well.
It’s a TRG style chassis. If you know you know.
With the clearance sales, I’ve been debating purchasing one for a long while. Sako doesn’t skimp on any of their lineup.
I have a Leupold MARK4HD 5x25 illuminated scope and it’s off just about 30 MOA to the right. Cross hairs are way right in the viewer and Leupold said nothing they can do to fix it. They sent it back. I never used it since. That’s been 3 years ago
I’ve kept all my communication with them and will one day make a video of the chain of events leading up to them washing their hands of any responsibility of replacing it as they told me they’re not going to fix it.
A shame for such a company, for such a beautiful scope with such a massive defect.
I almost bought the S20 but I ended up getting the carbonlight instead in 6.5x55 Swedish. I run 143eldx at 2700fps and get 0.2” groups at 100M. Sako is fantastic. I’ve also owned a blaser R93, but prefer the Sako for how light weight and pointable it is in fast hunting situations here in the UK.
Excellent review, Jim. I have been looking at this gun and the new Browning X Bolt 2 for my next rifle. I think you sold me on this one.
For the USA market, the offerings seem a bit off (both Sako and Tikka). The design team needs to put together traditional, and up-n-coming, calibers in suppressor ready barrel lengths. Otherwise, they look like wonderful rifles.
Everyone is now doing a shop/hobby room precision chassis build. The most popular chassis used is the MDT Oryx using just about all the major manufactures Barreled Actions out there in several caliber's. Your thoughts?
I love my Sakos. Glad you're discovering how great they are.
I have 2 S-20s, both in 6.5 PRC and are the most accurate rifles I own! I’ve always been a Sako fan. Maybe a bit biased as the Sako AV Deluxe was the rifle I saved up $ to buy at the age of 15
Love mine in 7mm Rem Mag. I had to buy the precision as I'm left handed and the hunter isnt lefty friendly. Very pleased
That's not boring! That's exciting! Inaccurate guns aren't interesting.
Really liking your videos, would be great if you did one on the tikka t3x UPR. Similar to the S20 it’s often overlooked but it’s a damn great rifle and would like to see your comparison to other similar priced guns like the S20, Bergara premier, etc…
The action of tikas and sakos is so nice, as is the triggers and feeding. I own a tika but damn wud I love a sako…… one day
My first rifle was used Sako 75 hunter model in 30-06.
At somepoint i wondered what is so special in Sako and Tikka action what some people told once in while.
That became very clear when i handled ruger, remington and one Sabatti at
range. Didnt know how much it matters in bolt-action if racking a bolt
feels like there is gravel between metal surfaces.
Well im thankfull for that experience to realise smooth action is not something which will come as default for every rifle.
Most likely going to upgrade that sako to either Tikka tac1 or Sako s20.
Jim, what did you use for coloured decals on elevation turret? That is a great idea!
I have a Remington 700 BDL in 270 Win. that does a 0.2-0.3 with the right ammo. She is picky about ammo though. I don't care if it's a 22LR. If it doesn't perform at a 1.0 moa or less, I don't want it.
I just bought a sako S20 I wished it had a shorter barrel but thats just me. Thanks for the review it made me pull the trigger. Sako makes a great gun. Thanks again for the review and God bless.
I am glad you did this...Thank you....Ive always heard they were good rifles, I was just never able to touch one in person.
I just went to check out the S20, and it looked great, felt amazing, but for some very odd reason, the butt stock is very short. I mean when I measure the butt stock from elbow/bicep crease to the trigger guard, my index finger passes the guard by half the tip of my finger...The store clerk says that I would have to buy stock extenders..I own Benelli, Browning, Savage rifles, and I have never seen stock length issues for any of them. Usually I am a perfect fit for all brands ;) ...Have you seen a difference in S20 stock length? Has anyone else experienced this as well?
Can you do a review of the many possibilities that Rossi r95 20” has? The new tactical rails and stock don’t get enough love from big time reviewers like you!!
Glad to finally see a Backfire review of this gun! I've had mine for over 2 years now (chambered in .30-06, also with hunter stock), and I just love it! Great accuracy, and the removable stock makes it really easy to pack into a small space when going on a hunting trip (to me this is one of the best oft-overlooked features). To me the heavier gun is actually an advantage, it has less recoil (especially with my suppressor and muzzle brake), and it's still not too heavy to carry around comfortably. I've taken 10 animals with it so far (African plains hunting, 2 Eland and 8 Springbok).
What bipod do you have on there? Is it attached to the swing swivel stud? I'm looking for a nice bipod to use with this gun, and have been considering perhaps getting the precision fore end (but still keeping the hunter stock rear, that thumbhole is just great) with the M-LOK system.
Should review the sauer 100. Stupid accurate (sub .5MOA) excellent action, trigger and feeding.
I can’t believe you sprinkled dirt in your bolt action. 😮😮😮 I would have believed you it fed when dirty.
You should try Sakos two stage trigger and precision stock. Negative things I have found in this rifle, are screws that rust easily and stiff adjustable cheek peace.
Jim GREAT VIDEO.
Group sizes mean a lot more when you know the distance and caliber. I have noticed a tendency to not mention one of theses factors from time to time.
Okay, you sold me on my first bolt action rifle, but I believe that I'm better off with 6.5mm Creedmoor rifle just to save on "Match" ammo cost since this will be my first "precision" rifle. You and Emely also sold me on the Athlon scopes. Now, which MDT Bipod is being used?
the S20 is a a very ggod rifle. had the precision model in 308. for that price very hard to beat
I've got the s20 and now 2 of my mates have them very good rifle .
finally you found this rifle. Really the Best Action.
Hello, I enjoy watching backfires reviews, they are different then other youtubers, and backfire makes sure to show everything and review everything about the rifle.
Though I was wondering if you guys could review the new Browning X Bolt 2, there are not very many videos on it but I hear great things about it and new upgrades, I would love to hear Jim's take on it.
I have two 742 Remington 30/06 autos that ll shhot less than a inch of the bench a 100 yrds, a bar .300 win mag auto that ll shoot a half inch, w factory ammo, off the vise and bags of course, so accurate rifles come in many different forms. I have a .222 reming bolt thatkl do between a 1/4 and a half , but a inch is good enough for anyone shooting off hand or at a deer or human size target, if you zero your scope the .222 and the .300 win mag do good anywhere from 300 to 1200 yrds, its jus setting zero at the longer ranges at that point
Now you’ve peaked my interest, I’m thinking of getting something different as I’ve built several large and small frame ARs with my pride and joy being a large frame .308 that took me about 18 months in total to afford the exact bits and pieces I wanted in it to make my version or attempt to at the time of a capable dependable repeatably accurized gas gun, I’ve found using M118LR 175gr SMK I can reliably get right around .75 MOA, it can likely do better with a steadier then myself, I’ve had several back surgeries and have nerve damage in both arms along with getting up there in years if you know what I mean, my end goal is to take it out to 1,000 yds and hopefully ring steel at least once before I croak lol, I think a good bolt gun might be just a tad more forgiving maybe, and it’ll give me the reason to save up again especially for an optic, I’ve been wanting to get my hands on the Leupold MK5 HD and that might just be a winning combo for me, I don’t hand load so I need something that can reliably shoot factory loads accurately.
The Finn's make the best bolt guns in the world. No need to apologize for the glowing review
I shot 1moa in the phoenix desert 2 days ago. 106 degrees, 5 rounds, with a m4a1 socom heavy upper and a lapped LMT bolt.
These are on sale for crazy prices right now.