Okay, seriously - my wife reads contracts for a living and it's important to note that the reference to "entrant" is not hinged on the winner, it's hinged on who actually enters the contest. They can do this to anyone who enters - the 2nd, 3rd, 4th etc person in this contest. Protect yourself, protect your idea. Don't do this.
@@Darrylizer1 I guess they would have had to notify the entrant and give them the $50 to have permission to use the idea, then another $50 if they use it. BUT, they wouldn't have to fly them out to meet anyone since that is reserved for the winner. So I guess they don't have to declare any winners at all which takes the whole meeting a non factor. You just enter your idea and maybe make $100 if they use it.
@@AVerySillySausage Yes. This "contest" is really not worth bothering with at all. I had a college film professor who asked students to present him with any ideas they had for screeplays and he would help them out. If you saw this guy you wouldn't trust him to feed your cat let alone "help" you with a screen play.
Hey guys, great video as usual. I can help shed a little light on the way the Annabelle: Creation embargo worked. The film was first shown at the Los Angeles film festival on June 19th 2017. There is no embargo at film festivals, so any critic who saw the film there would be free to post their reviews early to Rotten Tomatoes. Those would account for the initial reviews. The film was then screened again at San Diego comic con for fans and press, and this is where I saw it since I was already in town for SDCC. The embargo had already lifted at that point and there was no second embargo to my knowledge. There were however more screenings after the Los Angeles Film Festival and Comic Con, which would account for the influx of reviews after that. As for the studios interacting with critics after the screening, that rarely happens for me in Ohio, in fact basically never. Can't say the same for LA/NY people. At comic con, they handed out a swag bag to people who saw Annabelle: Creation. In it was Blu-Rays for The Conjuring and Annabelle 1, and a hat for Stephen King's IT. I gave all these items away to people I met there because I already own The Conjuring and I fucking hated Annabelle 1. I hope that sheds light on some of the questions you had, guys. Keep making great videos, RLM is my favorite channel. Edit: No one received an Annabelle doll for free. I bought mine off Amazon to use in the review because I wanted to make it look like she moved during filming.
It's admirable to see someone manage to detach criticism of their work from criticism of their person, which you do here. Keep up the good attitude and professionalism Chris, it's something I think we'd all like to see more of in the world.
Since it specifically refers to the entrant as "he or she" ("his or her"), I imagine that the contract's power is overcome by a gender nonbinary person who goes by they/them/their
War for the Planet of the Apes - 0:56 Atomic Blonde - 1:10 Dunkirk - 1:20 The Dark Tower - 1:26 The Emoji Movie - 1:33 Annabelle Creation - 2:00 Lights Out - 4:45 I hope this was helpful!
@@Lu-db1uf the plot holes were huge, that was the main problem, that and superflous characters that could have been easily cut from the movie to make it more focused
"Would you rather see the Emoji Movie or Ghostbusters 2016?" I think I'd rather spend 2 hours drawing things in the dirt with a stick. You know, good old fashioned time wasting.
The best thing about these Hollywood horror movies is the 40-minute reviews that are mostly Jay and Mike trying to remember which movie they're reviewing.
This is similar the Fred Durst's challenge when he was looking for a new guitarist. You had to audition with an original song/idea and Fred would retain all right, just for letting you audition. I know this is a late comment...but I thought the similarity was worth noting
It would be great if David F. Sandberg could show up as a "guest of the worst" sometime in the future. Who knows if he is ever able to talk about any of this, but i feel like there is a interesting untold backstory here.
Well, considering he did work with Warner Bros again with Shazam (and tbd with Shazam 2), I don't think he's allowed to talk about the controversy lol. Which is sad cos I feel like he's the type of guy who would wanna make fun of himself
It's been mentioned elsewhere that (allegedly) he wasn't aware of the stipulations and terms of the contest and legitimately thought they would be helping aspiring horror filmmakers. Feels like he'd just be sad and/or angry about it if true.
@@SuperJesus123 , sensory deprivation horror for hearing, sighted, abled audiences. I wish actual deaf/hard-of-hearing and blind people could make these movies. As a HH person who passes as hearing, I can be very quiet. Like when I'm walking outside alone or when I'm in a group of hearing people all talking. But deaf people are usually loud af. Go to any Deaf event and there is so much laughing, shouting, vocalizing, banging. Hearing people are the ones who care about quiet, not them. I can't remember which one it was, whichever one Jim from The Office was in, but I remember the deaf girl was quiet as a mouse. Completely killed any immersion for me.
Man it is sad to see that Rich Evans passed away, the Tums were just too much. Maybe when they do an autopsy and find his calcified liver, RLM can make a horror short of it. Then when they win their 50$, Rich Evans will be forever canon in The Conjuring universe. That is just what Rich Evans would of wanted.
"So they prayed to Jesus, 'Can we have our daughter back?' And when that didn't work they switched to the black arts." Best RLM quote since "Shaq Meat."
The contract for the contest looks scarier than this schlock. Shit make a horror film about a studio that steals people's stories and slowly drives them mad by picking their lives apart until they kill themselves and then make a movie about it. There, an original idea. Can I have some money
Fun fact! Annabelle: Creation was the last movie I saw before I died and became a spooky internet ghost. Now I can spend all of eternity watching TH-cam videos!
Simply put studios are blaming critics for people not watching terrible movies. That's actually one of the main reasons why critics exist. Good job critics, good job people for listening. But the rotten tomatoes score just isn't saying much.
Well unfortunately they printed it on my Don't Breathe DVD .....so the fact trailers and even DVD covers now have RT "CERTIFIED FRESH" Shoved in your face, it unfortunately means something.
Poor David Sanburg. To be fair he's got a couple of really good gigs from making a short in his house. I watch his tutorials all the time and helps immensely. I think his individual work is great and one day i'd love to see a film he has full creative control over like his shorts.
I was in absolute fucking shock when Mike read out the contest contract. That's the most genuinely awful, corporate thing I've ever heard. Imagine being the guy who wins, and then having WB take your idea from YOUR hard work for $50. Bull fucking horse shit.
Chantelle Austin I made a shitty slender man movie for youtube, that cost 100+ for a cop uniform, slender man mask, and other shit. Yeah man, the idea of winning is out of the picture unless you spend.
Rotten Tomatoes is an incredibly simple system and I'm still baffled that people don't get it. Every reviewer and review is boiled down to a yes or a no. Do they recommend the movie yes or no. That's why you have two reviews that are 3/5 and one's a tomato and one's a splat. Read the wording of the reviews, both said the movie was average (3/5) but one said it was fine and the other said it wasn't worth watching. One yes, one no. Those yes and no reviews then get averaged into the score for the movie. An 18% on Rotten Tomatoes doesn't mean that the quality of the movie is that of an 18/100, it's saying that 18% of the people who watched it would recommend it.
Eurotrash RC what do you want him to tell you? 70% of critics would recommend it. That just what happened, maybe someone slipped them a few € and winked but what could this guy tell you
Eurotrash RC That's not a problem with the Rotten Tomatoes scoring system though, that's a problem with movie reviewers. RT doesn't do anything but collect information and compile it in one location. If that information is slanted, they still have to collect it. You're blaming the diagnosis for the disease.
technically Rotten Tomatoes works on a system where the critics pick a rating and if it's above 6/10 then it's automatically considered fresh, and then the reviews are just combined as an aggregate The tricky part is that 90% of critics could a movie 6.5/10, which would be considered negative by most people, and it will still look like a fresh tomato on RT. Maybe what's considered 'fresh' is too forgiving
I will never understand the nuances of review systems. It's all too complicated. And then everybody uses different systems too. I tend to just go, like, "Does the reception seem positive overall?" And base my impression on that. And then proceed to not watch the movie until/if it ends up on Netflix, at which point I've long forgotten it exists.
No, it isn't the quality of the movie, because a movie could be a 1/10 and you wouldn't recommend it or it could be a 7/10 and you wouldn't recommend it. The RT rating has absolutely nothing to do with the quality of the movie, how well it was made or shot, the audio, anything. It's simply whether or not people liked it. A movie could be incredibly well made, but not worth watching (see - most Rob Zombie movies), on the same hand a movie could be very poorly made, but incredibly entertaining (see - Roger Corman movies). You can't exchange the two and you have to understand what you're looking at. Yes, chances are that if only 18% of people who saw a movie would recommend it, you probably wouldn't like it either, but there's also the possibility that you are in that 18%. All Rotten Tomatoes says is that a lot of people either like a movie or don't like a movie.
For comedy editing, it can't beat *24:53* from the actual trailer. _"But then, it wanted permission to move into a doll, so that it could be with us forever."_ The lines must have been gold on their own, but trailer-spliced with a horror movie sting, it's platinum. Its devilish plan to request Forever Doll Permissions, as you do
Thanks for the shout out to my Arkansas Democrat-Gazette review! I appreciate you guys representing my call accurately. Rotten Tomatoes is useful, but you do have to read the totals carefully and to look at what's actually in the reviews. The early reviews for this one were really strange. I didn't recognize any familiar bylines. Sometimes that's good because it takes outsiders to appreciate a film, but it still bothered me that these reviews were there so far in advance of the critics screenings.
what if someone's 'Make Your Own Horror Short' was a submission about an indie director who entered a film making contest hosted by a major studio, wins the contest, flies out to meet with execs from the major studio, but then disappears under mysterious circumstances? then the studio premiers the indie director's film as their own IP, during which spooky stuff happens, attributed to the ghost of the indie director?
I would have loved to see a "You're the best around" montage of the father and mother praying to any deity or power they can find. Benny tried the same tactic in The Mummy and it actually worked for him.
Peratohtori ... Huh, I could actually see that working. Like, the writer guy gets hit by a lightning after apparently failing to complete a satanic ritual, and then comes back as a ghost made out of electricity to fuck over the studio that scammed his of his deserved money (which can escalate into him just causing wacky stuff to happen thus ruining the production of the movie he wrote, or him actively killing people involved in the production, depends on what the rating for the movie is).
Ruaridh McGurk yah it was alright, the sound quality was good though. When a gun fired, it would nearly deafen yeh. If you want to see war brutality it's not so bad. I'm not a huge war film guy though.
Annabelle: Salutation. The demon grows tired of its evil deeds and decides to adopt a more welcoming, friendly demeanour and even creates a tinder page.
Annabelle: Resurrection, A story about a demon possessing a group of xenomorphs, but once everyone is holed up in a safe place, ends up killing everyone by simply going through the wall.
A lot of the time I just listen to these videos in the background, so I miss a lot of the edits you guys make. Gizmo being edited into Lights Out was great.
I do like Sandberg and think he knows how to craft atmosphere and tension under the right circumstances. Basically, I think he knows how to work with minimalism and the "less is more" mentality of scariness. Give him a script that leans into those strengths with a decent scary story that's smaller and more intimate in scale, instead of a dumb, blunt plot about Annebelle.
I love Jay's face when he is trying not to laugh at Mike's antics. Priceless. It is looks like he is going to explode from laughter at any moment and you wonder if he'll keep his cool or start giggle like a school girl.
At the theater I used to work at, one part of the building had a ~120 person, ~100 person, and a ~70 person auditorium. Movies naturally cycled down after the weeks, except when no one was buying tickets. The Dark Tower, along with the most recent King Arthur movie, are the fastest that I've seen a movie go to the small theater.
The review embargo reminds me of what Warner Brothers did to "Shadow of Mordor." WB would only send out review copies to anyone who signed a contract to give it favorable reviews.
The film had its world premiere back in June at the LA Film Festival, which is what Lights Out did last year. All the critics who saw and glowed about the film early were mostly from that initial screening. And WB was actually very confident in the film, as they screened the film two to three weeks in advance in several areas, my area included. They even had a nationwide promotional screening collaboration with AMC Theaters where they screened the film to AMC Stubs members over a week in advance. This took place in at least 50 locations. I believe WB did the same type of deal with Regal Cinemas that same night as well for their Regal Crown Club members, so add another 50 locations to that. Hope that answers any sort of questions you guys might have.
lolololo... theres actually real people getting hyped to see the "masterpiece" movie "IT" ... bc Stuckman gave it an A - OMG ITS GOTTA BE GOOD GENE STUCKMAN GAVE IT AN A- !!!!!!!!!!!
Commander Shepard You thought wrong, he's an absolute hack that just explains the plot of the movie, quickly goes through the acting and that's it. It's shallow and pointless. Also he's totally frozen, no charisma whatsoever. And his thumbnails are embarrassing, as is the whole ridiculous "get stuckmannized".
You guys are Nancy Drewing the fuck out of the media industry, and I really appreciate it. I noticed the Rotten Tomatoes bullshit, but I never would have EVER found that Annabelle contest bullshit. So much bullshit. Thanks for being the heroes Gotham needs.
Did anyone read David F Sandberg's last twitter comment? He say's he's too busy to answer anymore tweets for the moment. Dated 17 Aug 2017. One day after this review? Ha Ha Ha!
The thing is, I feel sorry for Mr. Sandberg. At this point he's a small director who came from a background as a nobody(He had no connections that got him in or anything) that made something pretty good, then he made a mass-appeal horror film for the theatre going simpletons, so when the people holding his leash...I mean contract, when they tell him "You do this because we made you into an inspiring nobody to fame story" he cant really say no. Chances are he knew and his hands were tied. I dont see him quite as part of "the machine" he just seems like a guy who likes to make movies. Shazaam definitely feels like that's the case. I bet they only gave him $30 for being in that video anyway.
@@booradley6832 Fuck I totally forgot he made Shazam. It just shows how you really can't judge a book by its author, I hope he continues to make stuff as good as Shazam cause he clearly does have skill.
As an artist who has been making money on his art work and his photos as a second job for a decade, i can say its kinda normal for whoever runs a contest to basically own the rights to your work... it sucks. Its bull shit. Its the reason i always tell people to avoid contests like this. I have seen game studios ask for artwork in a contest that basically say "we own the rights to it, and if you win you get the prize and nothing else." Like, its sleezy what WB is doing here... but its no more sleezy then i have seen before. That being said usually the contests i see for artists and concept artists and photographers have prizes in the thousands of dollars... that 50+50 dollar grand prize is fucking insane!
I can't speak specifically on this movie's review embargoes, but I used to do some gaming journalism, and there was an old Tomb Raider game in the 360/PS3 era where Eidos lifted the embargo if you gave the game an 8.0 or higher. So there are definitely instance of being allowed to post reviews early if you give them positive reviews.
I'm surprised you went over the fact that the Director or WB executive might not even meet with you and if they don't you don't get that initial $50, but made no comment about it.
I love how they skipped over all of the major releases of the summer and instead focused on a film I didn't even know existed until this video. Classic RLM.
Is anyone surprised at WB at this point? They've been doing these types of practices for years. Just go look up some of the crap they pull in just their video game division.
That bit with Mike going over the contract information for submitting a short film should be isolated and made into a video of its own to get the word spread around even further. Nice catch, guys!
Hot diggity! $50, I can buy all the whores I want, a barrel of 4X whiskey and afford to give up my days of prospecting for gold with that amount of money! Looks like I'm going into the motion picture business!
People who see a short film and insist that it should be made into a full length feature clearly dont understand that the short length is what makes it so effective.
I saw this movie and as I was walking to the car I was hit in the head by some discarded movie nachos. My soul drifted for an unknown time but now it resides in a My Little Pony doll.
Aw man, Valerian and the City of a thousand Planets would've been perfect to review for you guys. The comics inspired so many things in Star Wars. You could've called George Lucas an idea stealing hack again.
That terrible contract is almost certainly ass-covering in case they can't negotiate a proper contract/you threaten to sue if they don't come through. It goes badly and Warner gives you $50 and tells you to fuck off, their end of the contract upheld and their ass covered. At least I hope that is what it is because I can't imagine the news when someone gets paid $100 for their next horror schlock movie idea and goes to the media with that story
DUSTINODELLOFFICIAL Warner Brothers is a billion dollar corporation. Corps that big feel they can do whatever to pinch pennies because they can afford to intimidate people.
I would love to see a episode where they discuss just rotten tomatoes. I used to be very dedicated Rotten Tomato'er but now I take their reviews with a grain of salt.
The terms of this contract are even more upsetting than finding out that the guy who created the Superman character sold the rights to DC for $130 cos he thought no one would like the character since he didnt acquire his powers like other heroes. But that was long enough ago that 130 was at least something substantial (1930s)
I think a lot of the positive reviews at the beginning were from people who attended the LA film festival premiere of the movie. Their reviews were more positive likely because they saw it with all the actors and the director there and in great conditions.
That "Make Your Own Horror Short" contest is the most scummy thing a big Hollywood studio has done in at least a week.
Make video about it you hack fraud! I need more of your content to feel intellectually superior to my peers!
Definitely agree. I didn't know studios could lower themselves any more than they have. Also I love you Ralph, but not in a gay way. Probably. Maybe.
You could probably make a better horror movie than this
I think it's actually overdue, a scam or a sleezy business practice a second I thought was the average
ralphthemoviemaker they probably got t too
Okay, seriously - my wife reads contracts for a living and it's important to note that the reference to "entrant" is not hinged on the winner, it's hinged on who actually enters the contest. They can do this to anyone who enters - the 2nd, 3rd, 4th etc person in this contest. Protect yourself, protect your idea. Don't do this.
So they can take your idea and use it, but not declare you the winner so they don't have to give you the 100 bucks?!
@@Darrylizer1 They'd probably have a "fake winner" or if all entrants are legit, they take all their ideas and just give one guy 100 bucks.
@@Wyllowisp Yeah that's what I was thinking.
@@Darrylizer1 I guess they would have had to notify the entrant and give them the $50 to have permission to use the idea, then another $50 if they use it. BUT, they wouldn't have to fly them out to meet anyone since that is reserved for the winner. So I guess they don't have to declare any winners at all which takes the whole meeting a non factor. You just enter your idea and maybe make $100 if they use it.
@@AVerySillySausage Yes. This "contest" is really not worth bothering with at all. I had a college film professor who asked students to present him with any ideas they had for screeplays and he would help them out. If you saw this guy you wouldn't trust him to feed your cat let alone "help" you with a screen play.
Hey guys, great video as usual. I can help shed a little light on the way the Annabelle: Creation embargo worked. The film was first shown at the Los Angeles film festival on June 19th 2017. There is no embargo at film festivals, so any critic who saw the film there would be free to post their reviews early to Rotten Tomatoes. Those would account for the initial reviews.
The film was then screened again at San Diego comic con for fans and press, and this is where I saw it since I was already in town for SDCC. The embargo had already lifted at that point and there was no second embargo to my knowledge. There were however more screenings after the Los Angeles Film Festival and Comic Con, which would account for the influx of reviews after that.
As for the studios interacting with critics after the screening, that rarely happens for me in Ohio, in fact basically never. Can't say the same for LA/NY people. At comic con, they handed out a swag bag to people who saw Annabelle: Creation. In it was Blu-Rays for The Conjuring and Annabelle 1, and a hat for Stephen King's IT. I gave all these items away to people I met there because I already own The Conjuring and I fucking hated Annabelle 1.
I hope that sheds light on some of the questions you had, guys. Keep making great videos, RLM is my favorite channel.
Edit: No one received an Annabelle doll for free. I bought mine off Amazon to use in the review because I wanted to make it look like she moved during filming.
I'm surprised you commented on this video.
Why wouldn't I? I love RLM.
Chris Stuckmann Better edit that comment to say you loved Annabelle 1 or Warner Bros won't pay your rent next month.
I guess I just wasn't expecting it.
It's admirable to see someone manage to detach criticism of their work from criticism of their person, which you do here. Keep up the good attitude and professionalism Chris, it's something I think we'd all like to see more of in the world.
So much evil in that contract, they should make a horror movie about it.
-that was optioned for $50.
Phantom of the Paradise
Submit a short film about that concept to the contest.
Since it specifically refers to the entrant as "he or she" ("his or her"), I imagine that the contract's power is overcome by a gender nonbinary person who goes by they/them/their
@@PurpleColonel They would probably use it unironically.
War for the Planet of the Apes - 0:56
Atomic Blonde - 1:10
Dunkirk - 1:20
The Dark Tower - 1:26
The Emoji Movie - 1:33
Annabelle Creation - 2:00
Lights Out - 4:45
I hope this was helpful!
The 32 minutes of silence after was enlightening
I love how the movie is so boring they literally talk about anything else for most of the video.
The movie is actually hella well made
@@thewinner7382 nah
@@winstonmarlowe5254 Yes. Have you seen it?
@@thewinner7382 Yeah, it's pretty dull
@@Lu-db1uf the plot holes were huge, that was the main problem, that and superflous characters that could have been easily cut from the movie to make it more focused
"The emoji movie looked so terrible I willingly gave sony my money so I could exaggerate my outrage in a youtube video"
God bless this fucking channel
J Victor depends on the person
AI MAN cool comment edgelord
"Would you rather see the Emoji Movie or Ghostbusters 2016?"
I think I'd rather spend 2 hours drawing things in the dirt with a stick. You know, good old fashioned time wasting.
Ryan D I remember drawing a penis in the dirt, the dumb rain ruined it tho :o(
get stuckmannized yall
Half in the Bag
Semi in the Sack
Partial in the Tote
Some in the Satchel
Quarter in the Clutch
Barely in the Burlap
GhettoBlastoise Kinda in the Container
It’s like poetry, so that they rhyme.
*PTSD flashback to Jar Jar stepping in shit*
I Swear The Fuck
Part in the Cart
There's nothing better than Mike badly mis-remembering horror movies.
That electricity ghost was in Gremlins II ;-)
I feel like he was talking about The Lazarus Effect.
The best thing about these Hollywood horror movies is the 40-minute reviews that are mostly Jay and Mike trying to remember which movie they're reviewing.
the contest is disgusting. Thanks for showing why reading the fine print and contest rules are important.
This is similar the Fred Durst's challenge when he was looking for a new guitarist. You had to audition with an original song/idea and Fred would retain all right, just for letting you audition. I know this is a late comment...but I thought the similarity was worth noting
When the hell did that happen, that’s so fucking scummy what the hell
fuck.... i missed my chance to audition.... fuck
@@heyyoitsmebrian you mean, you missed your chance to get your song stolen
More like _Lift_ Biskit, amirite?
@@heyyoitsmebrian imagine being sad over a missed audition for fucking Limp Bizkit of all things.
It would be great if David F. Sandberg could show up as a "guest of the worst" sometime in the future. Who knows if he is ever able to talk about any of this, but i feel like there is a interesting untold backstory here.
Well, considering he did work with Warner Bros again with Shazam (and tbd with Shazam 2), I don't think he's allowed to talk about the controversy lol. Which is sad cos I feel like he's the type of guy who would wanna make fun of himself
It's been mentioned elsewhere that (allegedly) he wasn't aware of the stipulations and terms of the contest and legitimately thought they would be helping aspiring horror filmmakers. Feels like he'd just be sad and/or angry about it if true.
I doubt it's interesting
He was in an episode of the Sardonicast, so I'm sure he'd be down to appear in BOTB.
Lights Out, Don't Breathe, and Hush have now been joined by A Quiet Place, Bird Box, and The Silence
🙈🙉🙊
Don’t forget the original that started these, Wait Until Dark
@@MelancholyRequiem sensory deprivation horror
Don't forget about Slender Man they literally cut out all the horror
@@SuperJesus123 , sensory deprivation horror for hearing, sighted, abled audiences. I wish actual deaf/hard-of-hearing and blind people could make these movies.
As a HH person who passes as hearing, I can be very quiet. Like when I'm walking outside alone or when I'm in a group of hearing people all talking.
But deaf people are usually loud af. Go to any Deaf event and there is so much laughing, shouting, vocalizing, banging. Hearing people are the ones who care about quiet, not them.
I can't remember which one it was, whichever one Jim from The Office was in, but I remember the deaf girl was quiet as a mouse. Completely killed any immersion for me.
Triggered by the missed Spooky count at 34:44
the spookometer was overloaded
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Man it is sad to see that Rich Evans passed away, the Tums were just too much. Maybe when they do an autopsy and find his calcified liver, RLM can make a horror short of it. Then when they win their 50$, Rich Evans will be forever canon in The Conjuring universe. That is just what Rich Evans would of wanted.
Rabboonie a Tums Funeral.
LOL this is the funniest OP and comment thread I've read in weeks...plus I love the pic they used of Rich on the T-shirt...hilarious
Jar Jar is the key to all of this.
would have * wanted. (I'm not trying to insult you; I just want to help.)
Put his spirit into an Annabelle doll!
"So they prayed to Jesus, 'Can we have our daughter back?' And when that didn't work they switched to the black arts." Best RLM quote since "Shaq Meat."
"miscellaneous..."
I thought they were going to zoom in on Chris Stuckmann's face when they were showing the Rotten Tomatoes reviews.
Seth Richmond They did, watch the rest of the video.
They were clearly pointing to Stuckmann as the biggest fraud lol
They kind of did lol
Oh shit! Is Chris Stuckmann going to be sad again at his idols slapping him in the face? It makes me sad because I like them all. :(
What the hell since when did people start hating on Stuckmann?
The contract for the contest looks scarier than this schlock. Shit make a horror film about a studio that steals people's stories and slowly drives them mad by picking their lives apart until they kill themselves and then make a movie about it. There, an original idea. Can I have some money
That's a great idea. Of course you can't have some money.
You get $50
That`s part of the plot of the book "the last don" written by mario puzo (writter of the godfather) great book, should check it out.
I'll pay $50 for the idea...
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Fun fact! Annabelle: Creation was the last movie I saw before I died and became a spooky internet ghost. Now I can spend all of eternity watching TH-cam videos!
Hey, that sounds like a decent enough afterlife.
Tasty Loaf I kind of pity him...
Best. Afterlife. Ever. (If there are also tacos)
Lol random
Hello my moustache.
Simply put studios are blaming critics for people not watching terrible movies.
That's actually one of the main reasons why critics exist. Good job critics, good job people for listening.
But the rotten tomatoes score just isn't saying much.
Well unfortunately they printed it on my Don't Breathe DVD .....so the fact trailers and even DVD covers now have RT "CERTIFIED FRESH" Shoved in your face, it unfortunately means something.
"None of it felt like little girl speak." - Mike Stoklasa; Little Girl Expert
Poor David Sanburg. To be fair he's got a couple of really good gigs from making a short in his house. I watch his tutorials all the time and helps immensely. I think his individual work is great and one day i'd love to see a film he has full creative control over like his shorts.
I was in absolute fucking shock when Mike read out the contest contract. That's the most genuinely awful, corporate thing I've ever heard. Imagine being the guy who wins, and then having WB take your idea from YOUR hard work for $50. Bull fucking horse shit.
Link to the over exaggerated review of emoji movie doesn't work guys......
Bullitthiphop Thats the joke
Nick R And THAT was also his joke.
And now, you're the joke.
@@JP_0306 Is this a joke?
Bunch of Hack Frauds, I still haven't gotten my T-Shirt!
This was the last movie my grandpa saw before he died because I forced him to watch it on loop until he overdosed on heart medication.
Nice, now you can get that t shirt. It's what he would have wanted.
I'd like to but the rights to your idea. For 50 dollars.
I'm gonna enter that contest, win that $50 and use it to buy that T-Shirt
Chantelle Austin I made a shitty slender man movie for youtube, that cost 100+ for a cop uniform, slender man mask, and other shit. Yeah man, the idea of winning is out of the picture unless you spend.
I don't know the conjuring universe, if I film myself turning the lights on and off for 2 minutes can I get that T-Shirt?
Rotten Tomatoes is an incredibly simple system and I'm still baffled that people don't get it. Every reviewer and review is boiled down to a yes or a no. Do they recommend the movie yes or no. That's why you have two reviews that are 3/5 and one's a tomato and one's a splat. Read the wording of the reviews, both said the movie was average (3/5) but one said it was fine and the other said it wasn't worth watching. One yes, one no. Those yes and no reviews then get averaged into the score for the movie. An 18% on Rotten Tomatoes doesn't mean that the quality of the movie is that of an 18/100, it's saying that 18% of the people who watched it would recommend it.
Eurotrash RC what do you want him to tell you? 70% of critics would recommend it. That just what happened, maybe someone slipped them a few € and winked but what could this guy tell you
Eurotrash RC That's not a problem with the Rotten Tomatoes scoring system though, that's a problem with movie reviewers. RT doesn't do anything but collect information and compile it in one location. If that information is slanted, they still have to collect it. You're blaming the diagnosis for the disease.
technically Rotten Tomatoes works on a system where the critics pick a rating and if it's above 6/10 then it's automatically considered fresh, and then the reviews are just combined as an aggregate
The tricky part is that 90% of critics could a movie 6.5/10, which would be considered negative by most people, and it will still look like a fresh tomato on RT. Maybe what's considered 'fresh' is too forgiving
I will never understand the nuances of review systems. It's all too complicated. And then everybody uses different systems too. I tend to just go, like, "Does the reception seem positive overall?" And base my impression on that. And then proceed to not watch the movie until/if it ends up on Netflix, at which point I've long forgotten it exists.
No, it isn't the quality of the movie, because a movie could be a 1/10 and you wouldn't recommend it or it could be a 7/10 and you wouldn't recommend it. The RT rating has absolutely nothing to do with the quality of the movie, how well it was made or shot, the audio, anything. It's simply whether or not people liked it. A movie could be incredibly well made, but not worth watching (see - most Rob Zombie movies), on the same hand a movie could be very poorly made, but incredibly entertaining (see - Roger Corman movies). You can't exchange the two and you have to understand what you're looking at. Yes, chances are that if only 18% of people who saw a movie would recommend it, you probably wouldn't like it either, but there's also the possibility that you are in that 18%. All Rotten Tomatoes says is that a lot of people either like a movie or don't like a movie.
the editing in of Gizmo at 7:30 was so damn funny
I laughed and laughed.
Ummmm....
Yeah!!!!
Totally hilarious!
I love how all my favorite creators watch RLM
For comedy editing, it can't beat *24:53* from the actual trailer. _"But then, it wanted permission to move into a doll, so that it could be with us forever."_ The lines must have been gold on their own, but trailer-spliced with a horror movie sting, it's platinum. Its devilish plan to request Forever Doll Permissions, as you do
Thanks for the shout out to my Arkansas Democrat-Gazette review! I appreciate you guys representing my call accurately. Rotten Tomatoes is useful, but you do have to read the totals carefully and to look at what's actually in the reviews. The early reviews for this one were really strange. I didn't recognize any familiar bylines. Sometimes that's good because it takes outsiders to appreciate a film, but it still bothered me that these reviews were there so far in advance of the critics screenings.
Arkansas represent
The zoom in on Chris Stuchmann cracked me up, especially with his recent content
what if someone's 'Make Your Own Horror Short' was a submission about an indie director who entered a film making contest hosted by a major studio, wins the contest, flies out to meet with execs from the major studio, but then disappears under mysterious circumstances? then the studio premiers the indie director's film as their own IP, during which spooky stuff happens, attributed to the ghost of the indie director?
50 bucks is 50 bucks. See you nerds in Hollywood!
I would have loved to see a "You're the best around" montage of the father and mother praying to any deity or power they can find.
Benny tried the same tactic in The Mummy and it actually worked for him.
this is why RedLetterMedia is my favourite channel on TH-cam
*favorite
@@thundercleez7699 favourite is correct
Horror movie idea: Writer turns into an electric ghost after getting ripped off by a major studio
Peratohtori
... Huh, I could actually see that working. Like, the writer guy gets hit by a lightning after apparently failing to complete a satanic ritual, and then comes back as a ghost made out of electricity to fuck over the studio that scammed his of his deserved money (which can escalate into him just causing wacky stuff to happen thus ruining the production of the movie he wrote, or him actively killing people involved in the production, depends on what the rating for the movie is).
Superhero movie idea: A random guy turns into an electric ghost and suddenly hates Spiderman for no reason.
Wait you're not going to review Dunkirk? Now what will I tell people what I thought about the movie?!?!
Meh....
Ruaridh McGurk it was alright
Ruaridh McGurk here is my review: Movie was boring as fuck, because it overexplained the backstory of WWII
They did, they said it was "alright". So now you know what to tell people.
Ruaridh McGurk yah it was alright, the sound quality was good though. When a gun fired, it would nearly deafen yeh. If you want to see war brutality it's not so bad. I'm not a huge war film guy though.
Annabelle: Creation? What's next? Annabelle: Resurrection? What's next? Annabelle: Correction? What's next? Annabelle: Ramification? What's next? Annabelle: Inflation? What's next? Annabelle: Gratification?
Annabelle: Defecation
Annabelle: First Contact
Annabelle: Cumflation
Annabelle: Salutation. The demon grows tired of its evil deeds and decides to adopt a more welcoming, friendly demeanour and even creates a tinder page.
Annabelle: Resurrection, A story about a demon possessing a group of xenomorphs, but once everyone is holed up in a safe place, ends up killing everyone by simply going through the wall.
A lot of the time I just listen to these videos in the background, so I miss a lot of the edits you guys make. Gizmo being edited into Lights Out was great.
I do like Sandberg and think he knows how to craft atmosphere and tension under the right circumstances. Basically, I think he knows how to work with minimalism and the "less is more" mentality of scariness. Give him a script that leans into those strengths with a decent scary story that's smaller and more intimate in scale, instead of a dumb, blunt plot about Annebelle.
This contest reminds me of some of the sketchy Nintendo Power contests from back in the day.
Jacob Lief aw don't worry... They'll make The Mask 2 any day now.... Any day now....
I love Jay's face when he is trying not to laugh at Mike's antics. Priceless. It is looks like he is going to explode from laughter at any moment and you wonder if he'll keep his cool or start giggle like a school girl.
"The Emoji Movie looked so terrible I gave Sony my money to exaggerate my outrage in a TH-cam video."
FUCKING *THANK YOU* FINALLY SOMEONE GETS IT
someone make a short where the demon ghost monster is a $50 bill plz
At the theater I used to work at, one part of the building had a ~120 person, ~100 person, and a ~70 person auditorium. Movies naturally cycled down after the weeks, except when no one was buying tickets. The Dark Tower, along with the most recent King Arthur movie, are the fastest that I've seen a movie go to the small theater.
50 doll hairs
xD!!!1
Doll hairs? I thought u said ball hairs!
50 doll pubes
Cheeeeaaaaahh!
wollin. Roger Smith?
Spooky counter missed a spooky. Literally unwatchable.
His name is Robert Paulson
34:35 YOU FORGOT ONE YOU HACKS!!!!
frauds hack frauds xD!!!1
Sid Haig menacingly reading that WB contract would've been a more frightening horror film than Annabelle Creation.
Jay: "What did you think of The Dark Tower?"
Mike: "It was only 90 minutes long!"
Perfection xD .
If I wanted a spooky count, I'd watch Dracula, you frauds!
Joorum this comment is great
Joorum The Count: One jump scare. Ah ah ah ah ah ahhhh...2 Jump scares.
Haha, I’m three years late but beautiful comment man
The review embargo reminds me of what Warner Brothers did to "Shadow of Mordor." WB would only send out review copies to anyone who signed a contract to give it favorable reviews.
The film had its world premiere back in June at the LA Film Festival, which is what Lights Out did last year. All the critics who saw and glowed about the film early were mostly from that initial screening. And WB was actually very confident in the film, as they screened the film two to three weeks in advance in several areas, my area included. They even had a nationwide promotional screening collaboration with AMC Theaters where they screened the film to AMC Stubs members over a week in advance. This took place in at least 50 locations. I believe WB did the same type of deal with Regal Cinemas that same night as well for their Regal Crown Club members, so add another 50 locations to that. Hope that answers any sort of questions you guys might have.
7:43 I also seem to remember that Yoda was dancing in front of a fire in that movie.
I love how the word "Exploitation" is found in the fine print of the contest rules. Haha
"Annabelle Creation is the Citizen Kane of prequels to prequel sequels. I give it an A+"- Meme Stuckmann
Nater no that's actually Scott mantz who says that
lolololo... theres actually real people getting hyped to see the "masterpiece" movie "IT" ... bc Stuckman gave it an A - OMG ITS GOTTA BE GOOD GENE STUCKMAN GAVE IT AN A- !!!!!!!!!!!
i thought IT was getting good word of mouth all around?
Wait why is everyone shitting on Stuckmann, I thought he was a good movie reviewer? o.O
Commander Shepard You thought wrong, he's an absolute hack that just explains the plot of the movie, quickly goes through the acting and that's it. It's shallow and pointless. Also he's totally frozen, no charisma whatsoever. And his thumbnails are embarrassing, as is the whole ridiculous "get stuckmannized".
I'm taking an emoji movie right now
the face that jay makes when he's holding in his laughter at the very in kills me.
You guys are Nancy Drewing the fuck out of the media industry, and I really appreciate it. I noticed the Rotten Tomatoes bullshit, but I never would have EVER found that Annabelle contest bullshit. So much bullshit. Thanks for being the heroes Gotham needs.
Did anyone read David F Sandberg's last twitter comment? He say's he's too busy to answer anymore tweets for the moment. Dated 17 Aug 2017. One day after this review? Ha Ha Ha!
The thing is, I feel sorry for Mr. Sandberg. At this point he's a small director who came from a background as a nobody(He had no connections that got him in or anything) that made something pretty good, then he made a mass-appeal horror film for the theatre going simpletons, so when the people holding his leash...I mean contract, when they tell him "You do this because we made you into an inspiring nobody to fame story" he cant really say no. Chances are he knew and his hands were tied. I dont see him quite as part of "the machine" he just seems like a guy who likes to make movies. Shazaam definitely feels like that's the case.
I bet they only gave him $30 for being in that video anyway.
@@booradley6832 Fuck I totally forgot he made Shazam. It just shows how you really can't judge a book by its author, I hope he continues to make stuff as good as Shazam cause he clearly does have skill.
I like these Half in the Bag episodes that delve into more than just reviews. Really interesting insights.
I'm half Irish and half Jewish, so...
I'm drinking if you're buying
You should try to work at WB promotion departement you have the right mindset.
Ahhhhhhh...... Mmmyaasss
@@WeezaY5000 LIFE!
Aka Jewish
As an artist who has been making money on his art work and his photos as a second job for a decade, i can say its kinda normal for whoever runs a contest to basically own the rights to your work... it sucks. Its bull shit. Its the reason i always tell people to avoid contests like this. I have seen game studios ask for artwork in a contest that basically say "we own the rights to it, and if you win you get the prize and nothing else." Like, its sleezy what WB is doing here... but its no more sleezy then i have seen before.
That being said usually the contests i see for artists and concept artists and photographers have prizes in the thousands of dollars... that 50+50 dollar grand prize is fucking insane!
I can't speak specifically on this movie's review embargoes, but I used to do some gaming journalism, and there was an old Tomb Raider game in the 360/PS3 era where Eidos lifted the embargo if you gave the game an 8.0 or higher. So there are definitely instance of being allowed to post reviews early if you give them positive reviews.
The contract actually said "exploitation"? Holy shit!
11:53 zoom in on Chris stuckmann hahahaha never noticed that before you guys are catty
Chris uploaded then deleted ANOTHER video of him crying about RLM
My grandfather died back in 2005.
The last movie he saw was Spider-Man 2 and he loved it.
"Lights out, don't breathe, and hush." - Mr. Plinkett
I know this is four years ago but I those gizmo inserts in the lights out montage just killed me dead
This is the video that made me a half in the bag fan and my life has been reunited ever since
Dammit I will keep clicking there until it redirects me.... I WILL see Jay vs the emoji movie.
I love how they just didn't bother to review Dunkirk.
+Alex Abdoo what was so trash except the unnecessary plot with blinded kid?
cezar211091 Now that the dust has settled, was he useful?
no
MagnumTriumph but the air battles were KEWL. vroom vroom!
MagnumTriumph They would've thought it was bad because it has the same problems as rogue one.
"It was alright"
"It was okay"
"It was alright"
"It was only 90 minutes"
The perfect punchline
50 dollars, while the big corporation takes your idea and makes millions.
jesus christ
I'm surprised you went over the fact that the Director or WB executive might not even meet with you and if they don't you don't get that initial $50, but made no comment about it.
I love how they skipped over all of the major releases of the summer and instead focused on a film I didn't even know existed until this video. Classic RLM.
“When is this Annabelle doll gonna start offing these orphans”
Is anyone surprised at WB at this point?
They've been doing these types of practices for years.
Just go look up some of the crap they pull in just their video game division.
Is David Sandberg responsible for this contest, or was it the studio and he was just told to promote it for some extra production funds?
I wish you guys had submitted your old lady in the walls idea for that short film contest
50 bucks is still probably more than they paid for the shitty BvS script
15:48 made me excited thinking my favourite man with a pineapple haircut was doing a collab with RLM :(
"woman gets electro shock therapy and gains electricity powers" I'd watch that
can't wait for sylvia plath cameo in avengers:endgame
Willeh The Nun 2: Electric Boogaloo.
You're gonna love Ernest Goes To Jail. Not a woman but he does gain magnetic electricity powers.
That's the plot of Shocker, isn't it?
@@arnhelmkrausson8445 it is, basically.
That bit with Mike going over the contract information for submitting a short film should be isolated and made into a video of its own to get the word spread around even further. Nice catch, guys!
Just want to come back and say that Mike and Jay predicted The Exorcist: Believer 😆
Fifty.
US.
Dollars.
Spooky.
OH MY GAWWWDDDDD
Think of all the Dorito Loco tacos that I can buy from Taco Bell with that!
With the current state of the Canadian dollar, I could buy a house with that much!
Hot diggity! $50, I can buy all the whores I want, a barrel of 4X whiskey and afford to give up my days of prospecting for gold with that amount of money! Looks like I'm going into the motion picture business!
This contest makes me sick to my stomach.
Someone should make a horror movie out of this
Like the Human-CentIpad episode of South Park
Now I need a tums festival to make it better
I know precisely what "horror short" I would send them
lol
Nice to come back to this bit at 15:32 during the WGA/SAG-SFTRA strike, and be reminded that the studios have always been like this.
People who see a short film and insist that it should be made into a full length feature clearly dont understand that the short length is what makes it so effective.
I saw this movie and as I was walking to the car I was hit in the head by some discarded movie nachos. My soul drifted for an unknown time but now it resides in a My Little Pony doll.
Nothing is more spooky that a shady contract.
Baby Driver's initial RottenTomatoes score is 100%, drops to 94% after release.
Anabelle Creation starts at 100%, drops to 68%.
Uh oh.
Love the spooky (TM) music that played during the reading of the devil's contract.
The Girl With The Gimpy Leg sounds like The Girl With The Dragon Tattoo fan fiction
Aw man, Valerian and the City of a thousand Planets would've been perfect to review for you guys. The comics inspired so many things in Star Wars. You could've called George Lucas an idea stealing hack again.
That terrible contract is almost certainly ass-covering in case they can't negotiate a proper contract/you threaten to sue if they don't come through. It goes badly and Warner gives you $50 and tells you to fuck off, their end of the contract upheld and their ass covered. At least I hope that is what it is because I can't imagine the news when someone gets paid $100 for their next horror schlock movie idea and goes to the media with that story
There's likely a non-disclosure clause. They'd sue your ass if you tried to tell anyone that you got screwed out of your idea.
What media? The one owned by Warner Bros?
It's just that it's so brazen I can hardly imagine even a corporation being so evil, but I guess it's certainly possible
DUSTINODELLOFFICIAL Warner Brothers is a billion dollar corporation. Corps that big feel they can do whatever to pinch pennies because they can afford to intimidate people.
+DUSTINODELLOFFICIAL Hey, it's cool to see you here. I listen to your Genesis uploads all the time. Awesome stuff.
I would love to see a episode where they discuss just rotten tomatoes. I used to be very dedicated Rotten Tomato'er but now I take their reviews with a grain of salt.
The terms of this contract are even more upsetting than finding out that the guy who created the Superman character sold the rights to DC for $130 cos he thought no one would like the character since he didnt acquire his powers like other heroes.
But that was long enough ago that 130 was at least something substantial (1930s)
The opening to this episode is perhaps my favourite piece of media on the internet
I think a lot of the positive reviews at the beginning were from people who attended the LA film festival premiere of the movie. Their reviews were more positive likely because they saw it with all the actors and the director there and in great conditions.