I applaud any talk of increasing the defence budget but not an imbalanced cyber focus. It must have flexibility and adaptability. We still need navy RAF and Army capabilities. All eggs in one basket is a mistake
It’s almost comical to think that a nation with a population smaller than Hong Kong’s could ever hope to compete with China’s manufacturing prowess, research and development capabilities, and global influence. The sheer scale of China’s industrial and technological infrastructure dwarfs what a service-driven economy like the UK could ever achieve. It’s not just a mismatch-it’s a delusion of grandeur. How can a country with such limited human capital and industrial capacity even begin to challenge a global powerhouse? The irony is almost too rich to ignore.🙄🙄
What British values are you talking about? Since more than one year of the Israel - Gaza conflict the British establishment shows its humanitarian values and love for human rights. I didn't hear that the Chinese government killed in the last decade as many civilians as Israel only in the West Bank yet business with Israel as usual. So for me any deal with China without mentioning human rights is also okay. There is no point in playing double standards cards. Just stop pretending that the UK is pro human rights and move on.
You do realise there are millions of muslims in west china living living in virtual slavery. Arab israelis have far more rights than your average chinese citizen, never mind Tibetans or Uyghurs. If you want to look up an actual genocide look up what is happening in Xinjiang.
you are wrong. Since the trade war started, China grew its trade ties with the Global South rapidly, while shrinking trade with America and the west. China dont need you. You desperately need China.
Realistically, China does not need Britain as a market or in any other respect. But Britain would really need China and its market, that is, the Chinese market could perhaps help the British economy, which is heading towards the bottom of the abyss from which there is no return. Instead of the hard market, Britain should cooperate with everyone and not play the US poodle and run according to the master's orders.
they are bully's n vengeful n imperialist. the current autodictatorship running the affiliated Provence's seen as China have nil to do with any leadership dynasties prior to 70yrs ago. the leaders in power those 70yrs can barely steer the nation from within, any actions are always in reaction n to stifle shared power. external the leadership has no idea how to collaborate n grow relations, again bully n steamroll n threats to keep a perceived power position may look pragmatic but in reality exposes n highlights paralysis of governence n brittleness n instability of underlying foundation. there system is stretched to the limit n teetering on the brink of certain unrecoverable system failure
They have city's with more population than the entirety of England Scotland wales and northern Ireland combine you have next to no air defense against ICBM and even your biggest allies the United States have said you are no longer a first class military force sorry please explain how your going to stand up to the biggest economic superpower the world has ever seen?
Blame the consumer looking for the cheapest price , the manufacturer looking to cut costs to the bone to increase shareholder profits and the pension companies for buying into companies that look at profit over country loyalty.
List of Countries the US has Bombed Since the End c WWII (may be incomplete) Korea and China 1950-53 (Korean War) Guatemala 1954, 1960 Indonesia 1958 Cuba 1959-61 Vietnam 1961-73 Laos 1964-73 Belgian Congo 1964 Dominican Republic 1965--66 Peru 1965 Guatemala 1967-1969 Cambodia 1969-1970 Nicaragua 198OS El Salvador 1980s Lebanon 1982-84 Grenada 1983 Lebanon 1983, J 1984 (Lebanese, Syrian targets) Iran 1987 Panama 1989 Iraq 1991 (First Gulf War); 1991- 2003 (US/UK "NO Fly Zone") Kuwait 1991 Somalia 1992--94; 2007 Bosnia 1994-1995 Iran 1997 Sudan 1998 Afghanistan 1998 Yugoslavia 1999 Afghanistan 2001--ongoing Iraq 2003 (Second War--more recently predator drones) Yemen 2002, 2009 Libya 1986, 2011
Brics+ do not visit, import or export any goods to the US; UK, Germany, France, Japan, S Korea, Philippines let the US and its allies live in a different world from us..😄😄
UK is open for trade. US has distespected the UK. Lets import those cheap chinese electric vehicles and build partnerships with countries with mutually beneficial respect
Why would China need anything from UK? It is not even a power on the global stage. You are nothing to us. You dont even have enough economic strength to maintain two small skip jump carrier. Other country negotiate from a position of strength while UK negotiate from a position of weakness.😂😂😂😂
By ‘us,’ do you mean the subjugated Chinese population? In that case I’ll keep my freedom, no matter how much money or power you have, you cannot buy your freedom. 😂
Trade between the U.S. and China grew in 2023, totaling $575 billion-$147.8 billion in exports and $427.2 billion in imports-resulting in a $279.4 billion trade deficit.
Definitely not 2wrongs dont make a right and i wont degrade myself to there level i wanna set an example of value and teach others how 2treat 1another trend setter never been a follower and never will be✌
Sorry but UK needs markets to access for growth. We have almost blown the bridges with our closest and easiest (once) to trade with. So as we have done with others we will grovel for tuppence 😢
Being a member of an organisation which sells more to you than you sell to it seems a pretty poor relationship to continue. Sitting inside a tariff wall and pretending that will level the playing field is a recipe for depression not success. Adam Smith recognised that over 200 years ago and it still holds true. Free trade works whereas tariffs work to crash economies.
China needs Western export markets far more than we need them. Of course, we should have been building factories in other countries a decade ago to offset the risk.
You do know that you need skilled workers and natural resources for that?Also our governments have been creating coups, many countries in the Global South want nothing to do with us
When you are weak and don't have any barging chips, just admit it, and cooperate with others. Trying to lecture on a true global power and hoping for economic benefits in return is delusional.
I disagree. China don't need to trade with us and soon the British pound will start to lose value due to the economic slump under the Tories and Brexit.
@@TheWGLOVER I am. I posted this 10 days ago, and yesterday was a financial and economic report where it literally said the UK is getting close to falling below inflation.
Standing up to Chinese bullying tactics is precisely the sort of thing that a large, multinational conglomerate based in Europe would be good at. Some sort of Union of Europe, perhaps. If only we were part of such an organisation
The theory that trade decisions are only made at government or industry level is wrong. China's slowdown can be attributed to individuals worldwide deciding to limit or cut ties with Chinese companies. I certainly have. My spending on Chinese goods has reduced by at least 60% over the past two years.
What would the US & UK be without...China?🤔 What if there was no China just pretend, how would the US/UK be different, without any China relationship...🤔
YHWH helps people who helps themselves so Britain should do all she can for herself and also pray. Might be nice to maintain some of the _Christian_ culture that built the UK in the first place.
Wel theyr economy is going up, not so sure about Britians futer... but its al about the headlines so peopole atleast in theyr minds can have a better realety
A white British person coping with reality that UK is.nothing in China's eyes It is fricking hilarious.😂😂😂😂
I applaud any talk of increasing the defence budget but not an imbalanced cyber focus. It must have flexibility and adaptability. We still need navy RAF and Army capabilities. All eggs in one basket is a mistake
True, but more in the Navy and Air Force than Army. And rebuild the British defense-industrial base.
It’s almost comical to think that a nation with a population smaller than Hong Kong’s could ever hope to compete with China’s manufacturing prowess, research and development capabilities, and global influence. The sheer scale of China’s industrial and technological infrastructure dwarfs what a service-driven economy like the UK could ever achieve. It’s not just a mismatch-it’s a delusion of grandeur. How can a country with such limited human capital and industrial capacity even begin to challenge a global powerhouse? The irony is almost too rich to ignore.🙄🙄
What British values are you talking about? Since more than one year of the Israel - Gaza conflict the British establishment shows its humanitarian values and love for human rights. I didn't hear that the Chinese government killed in the last decade as many civilians as Israel only in the West Bank yet business with Israel as usual. So for me any deal with China without mentioning human rights is also okay. There is no point in playing double standards cards. Just stop pretending that the UK is pro human rights and move on.
You do realise there are millions of muslims in west china living living in virtual slavery. Arab israelis have far more rights than your average chinese citizen, never mind Tibetans or Uyghurs. If you want to look up an actual genocide look up what is happening in Xinjiang.
you are wrong. Since the trade war started, China grew its trade ties with the Global South rapidly, while shrinking trade with America and the west. China dont need you. You desperately need China.
Realistically, China does not need Britain as a market or in any other respect. But Britain would really need China and its market, that is, the Chinese market could perhaps help the British economy, which is heading towards the bottom of the abyss from which there is no return. Instead of the hard market, Britain should cooperate with everyone and not play the US poodle and run according to the master's orders.
The Chinese are pragmatic not emotional.
they are bully's n vengeful n imperialist. the current autodictatorship running the affiliated Provence's seen as China have nil to do with any leadership dynasties prior to 70yrs ago.
the leaders in power those 70yrs can barely steer the nation from within, any actions are always in reaction n to stifle shared power. external the leadership has no idea how to collaborate n grow relations, again bully n steamroll n threats to keep a perceived power position may look pragmatic but in reality exposes n highlights paralysis of governence n brittleness n instability of underlying foundation. there system is stretched to the limit n teetering on the brink of certain unrecoverable system failure
lol, they are extremely emotional.
British values Britain does not grovel to china got to be level headed with china be strong.
They have city's with more population than the entirety of England Scotland wales and northern Ireland combine you have next to no air defense against ICBM and even your biggest allies the United States have said you are no longer a first class military force sorry please explain how your going to stand up to the biggest economic superpower the world has ever seen?
Uk owes reparations to China
If you remove the £% spent on the nuclear deterrent, the UK spends just over 1% on defence, not really much at all.
Needs to move North of 3% pretty quickly. No time to waste.
Conservatives, grow up the UK Empire is finished and you are now a middle sized European country with a relatively weak and lonely economy.
but with a "special relationship" 🤣🤣🤣 that will put the last nail in the UK coffin!
Human rights? What about impending war? Whoops! Let’s not talk about that.
Why should uk help America when guys in their administration treat us with such contempt. Enough is enough.
Stop selling out to lowest bidder. Cheaper goods should not be excuse for turning a blind eye to harms being done
Blame the consumer looking for the cheapest price , the manufacturer looking to cut costs to the bone to increase shareholder profits and the pension companies for buying into companies that look at profit over country loyalty.
@@Arachnoid_of_the_underverse great points
Yeah all those machines and robots they use to manufacture now are all forced labor.
List of Countries the US has Bombed Since the End c
WWII
(may be incomplete)
Korea and China 1950-53 (Korean War)
Guatemala 1954, 1960
Indonesia 1958
Cuba 1959-61
Vietnam 1961-73
Laos 1964-73
Belgian Congo 1964
Dominican Republic 1965--66
Peru 1965
Guatemala 1967-1969
Cambodia 1969-1970
Nicaragua 198OS
El Salvador 1980s
Lebanon 1982-84
Grenada 1983
Lebanon 1983, J 1984 (Lebanese, Syrian targets)
Iran 1987
Panama 1989
Iraq 1991 (First Gulf War); 1991- 2003 (US/UK "NO
Fly Zone")
Kuwait 1991
Somalia 1992--94; 2007
Bosnia 1994-1995
Iran 1997
Sudan 1998
Afghanistan 1998
Yugoslavia 1999
Afghanistan 2001--ongoing
Iraq 2003 (Second War--more recently predator
drones)
Yemen 2002, 2009
Libya 1986, 2011
@@Arachnoid_of_the_underverse I am ok with buying from China . Racism against china no more
Brics+ do not visit, import or export any goods to the US; UK, Germany, France, Japan, S Korea, Philippines let the US and its allies live in a different world from us..😄😄
Tom, you're here talking about human rights issues. What about human rights issues in Palestinians in Gaza??.Double standards!
Thanks.
UK is open for trade. US has distespected the UK. Lets import those cheap chinese electric vehicles and build partnerships with countries with mutually beneficial respect
Why would China need anything from UK? It is not even a power on the global stage. You are nothing to us. You dont even have enough economic strength to maintain two small skip jump carrier. Other country negotiate from a position of strength while UK negotiate from a position of weakness.😂😂😂😂
By ‘us,’ do you mean the subjugated Chinese population? In that case I’ll keep my freedom, no matter how much money or power you have, you cannot buy your freedom. 😂
China is like Persepolis
@@richardyoung834 In UK, 3 million (17%) of your children are starving and malnurish on a daily basis. This is confirmed and documented by the UN.
@@richardyoung834 In UK, 3 million (17%) of your children are starving and malnurish on a daily basis. This is confirmed and documented by the UN.
Trade between the U.S. and China grew in 2023, totaling $575 billion-$147.8 billion in exports and $427.2 billion in imports-resulting in a $279.4 billion trade deficit.
after Gaza finger pointing should stop
Your blurb should indicate who the person you are interviewing is. Is he a diplomat, a journalist, an academic, a politician?
Did u sacrifice your “human rights “ to deal with Izrael ?.
wow this aged well 🤣🤣🤣 please just quit with the lies
I often say the same thing to the missus.
We need to treat people how they treat us
Definitely not 2wrongs dont make a right and i wont degrade myself to there level i wanna set an example of value and teach others how 2treat 1another trend setter never been a follower and never will be✌
Or do both…🙏
Rachel Reeves visits China: god help us all. They will run rings around that clueless novice.
Sorry but UK needs markets to access for growth. We have almost blown the bridges with our closest and easiest (once) to trade with. So as we have done with others we will grovel for tuppence 😢
Being a member of an organisation which sells more to you than you sell to it seems a pretty poor relationship to continue. Sitting inside a tariff wall and pretending that will level the playing field is a recipe for depression not success. Adam Smith recognised that over 200 years ago and it still holds true. Free trade works whereas tariffs work to crash economies.
China needs Western export markets far more than we need them. Of course, we should have been building factories in other countries a decade ago to offset the risk.
You do know that you need skilled workers and natural resources for that?Also our governments have been creating coups, many countries in the Global South want nothing to do with us
and western world needs Africa's resource.
End of the day trade is reliant on both parties, get over it.
Who told u that ? Also no country needs you .
Africa already told you to get lost 😆
When you are weak and don't have any barging chips, just admit it, and cooperate with others.
Trying to lecture on a true global power and hoping for economic benefits in return is delusional.
I disagree. China don't need to trade with us and soon the British pound will start to lose value due to the economic slump under the Tories and Brexit.
Yes, Britain is one country only, China selling its goods to everyone around the world.
The chinese trolls are out in storm on this one
Keep up.
@@TheWGLOVER I am. I posted this 10 days ago, and yesterday was a financial and economic report where it literally said the UK is getting close to falling below inflation.
Standing up to Chinese bullying tactics is precisely the sort of thing that a large, multinational conglomerate based in Europe would be good at. Some sort of Union of Europe, perhaps.
If only we were part of such an organisation
China bullying? What does that even mean ?
First try that on 🇺🇸
Tugendhat is an irrelevance.
On the contrary, China does have the power, whether it can be bothered is another discussion....
Undermining our future, don't make me laugh.
U already have done that in having keir starmer leads us into oblivion.
The theory that trade decisions are only made at government or industry level is wrong. China's slowdown can be attributed to individuals worldwide deciding to limit or cut ties with Chinese companies. I certainly have. My spending on Chinese goods has reduced by at least 60% over the past two years.
Yeah not going to trust some jealous anti china bot
More murdoch propaganda
These couch potatoes keep crying about China .
What would China be without the western market , nothing at all . They might want to rethink their actions against the west resently .
What would the US & UK be without...China?🤔
What if there was no China just pretend, how would the US/UK be different, without any China relationship...🤔
YHWH helps people who helps themselves so Britain should do all she can for herself and also pray. Might be nice to maintain some of the _Christian_ culture that built the UK in the first place.
probably slagging all of us ''them lot'' Tommy supporters
Listening to British basement bloggers talk about how china doesn't have control of their second world island seems ridiculous.
Wel theyr economy is going up, not so sure about Britians futer... but its al about the headlines so peopole atleast in theyr minds can have a better realety
Going down you mean 😂
Yikes