0:41-1:08 ''No you aren't my son, you aren't the son I wanted...' Goosebumps, pure Osar winning performance here and very hilling to watch here. Particularly striking too because Dot is always level headed, compassionate and forgiving towards others especially Nick so it's rare to see her so angry, condemn others and speak harsh truth and so from the heart. It's great insight into her character as we see that beneath the veneer of the kind and gentle woman she is that she too is human and harbours anger, resentment and bitterness just like the rest of us. In essence the scene shows her humanity. Even in her been bound to Christianity and forgiveness towards the sinner she too has her limits which the writers expose brilliantly here. I no longer watch EastEnders but I did like the duality and dimensions they added to characters like that. Another being Grant Mitchell, how he was often the loutish bully and cruel bad boy fill of narcissism and his own self importance. Yet on rare occasions he showed compassion and support for others like when he was the only one to support Mark Fowler when he had AIDS or how he supported Nigel after the death of his wife.
I uttered Mark's phrase ''Some people you're just glad to see the back of'' when my former best friend who turned nasty and treated me like dirt for an uncomfortable length of time finally got into his car and drove away out of where we lived and ultimately out of my life. That was more than eleven years ago and I haven't seen him since.
Watched this on its original broadcast: still a powerful scene after all these years. Probably the best that EastEnders had been for a long time. Flashbacks to Eddie Royle's murder, the poisoning plot etc. whilst Dot was talking would've reinforced to the audience, especially the long term ones from 1985, her finally reaching the end of her tether with Nick.
part of me kinda wishes this had been Nick's last appearance it would have been pretty powerful in its own right for him to lose his son due to his scheming and then finally lose his mother after years of her giving him second chances.
I genuinely thought that was it for Nick back in the day, like this was the end of his storyline. Looking back, I don't know why I thought that - he's obviously not the character to turn good, and he's clearly the kind of character who keeps going until he dies, which is what happened. I guess because Dot was done with him, and he'd done something he genuinely felt bad about (Ashely was never meant to die, Nick's intended target was Mark) it seemed like a good place to end his storyline back then. He doesn't turn good (would any of his fans even want him to?), but he crosses the line and shows the only amount of remorse he'll ever show, and finds that he won't be forgiven ever again - his days of having his "Ma" to fall back on are over, and we can use our own imaginations to decide what kind of (most likely evil) things he's doing now.
Short sighted decision to kill off Nick, and now with June’s passing there is no family connection at all for Dotty’s character except Rocky, a character that no one cares about.
I don't agree, there's only so many times you an bring back a villain before it becomes farce. Even in some of Grant Mitchell comebacks the writing was heavily criticised for being poor and out of touch with his character. They'd done everything with Nick, his character was spent.
Because she is too eager to see the good in people and because Nick always had a kid with him so she'll put up with him for the sake of her grand child. That's the reason you can come up with for Dotty. Charlie's old enough to know better (and he does know better)
The same reason why she tried to look out for Donna when everyone else had shunned her, the same reason why she gave away her winnings to strangers and the same reason that over the years, even when Dot *knew Nick was lying and was involved in misdeeds* she gave him another chance, because of her Christian ideals and the belief in ultimate redemption and salvation for the spiritually fallen.
Well done, Dot! You should have washed your hands of that rubbish years ago. I have no sympathy for him at all, and I was delighted when she chucked him out!
To be honest, June Brown looks better these days than she did a decade ago... slightly older, but a lot healthier. Great actress, shame about her wooden son ;-)
It was ridiculous when they introduced Charlie. They should have never killed off Ashley. They should have just made him wounded. They could have still have had this brilliant acting. But it certainly did for a great scene.
Somehow, I thought Dot was going to mention something like 'You've been possessed by Satan, Nick Cotton' However, Nick only wanted to kill Mark and not Ashley Now that Mark's dead, Nick will be thinking 'this is my lucky day' lol
@@eddietiller3162 It is true that Mark infuriated Ashley to begin with yes. Mark technically also caused Steve's death by goading Phil about Steve's getaway.
John Altman and June Brown performed some of the most powerful scenes in the soap.
June surpassed herself in this scene. Emotional yet heartbreaking. You can feel everything.
June Brown and John Altman ....true British Legends Xxxxxxxxxxx
0:41-1:08 ''No you aren't my son, you aren't the son I wanted...'
Goosebumps, pure Osar winning performance here and very hilling to watch here. Particularly striking too because Dot is always level headed, compassionate and forgiving towards others especially Nick so it's rare to see her so angry, condemn others and speak harsh truth and so from the heart.
It's great insight into her character as we see that beneath the veneer of the kind and gentle woman she is that she too is human and harbours anger, resentment and bitterness just like the rest of us. In essence the scene shows her humanity. Even in her been bound to Christianity and forgiveness towards the sinner she too has her limits which the writers expose brilliantly here.
I no longer watch EastEnders but I did like the duality and dimensions they added to characters like that. Another being Grant Mitchell, how he was often the loutish bully and cruel bad boy fill of narcissism and his own self importance. Yet on rare occasions he showed compassion and support for others like when he was the only one to support Mark Fowler when he had AIDS or how he supported Nigel after the death of his wife.
I uttered Mark's phrase ''Some people you're just glad to see the back of'' when my former best friend who turned nasty and treated me like dirt for an uncomfortable length of time finally got into his car and drove away out of where we lived and ultimately out of my life. That was more than eleven years ago and I haven't seen him since.
This was one of the best and emotional scenes between June and John, both brilliant actors R. I. P June brown ❤️❤️
Ashley was the only person Nick ever bonded with. Nick’s bond with his son was almost his only redeeming feature, but Nick’s heart was black as coal.
"a drug addict a thief a murderer"
She overlooks his wit and sense of humour
Despair and heartbreak , brilliant acting from June.
Omg this was so incredibly powerful well done John and June
This scene is powerful
powerful scene here-excellent acting by june browne, she certainly can pull 1 hell of a dramatic performance
Dot finally disowns Nick (June 2001).
June Brown is class ! easily the best actress ever to be in Eastenders!
June was phenomenal in this scene cried my eyes out Wen this aired
Great actors John and June. Rip June Brown
Dennis Rickman was Dot's true son.
If Nick was around when Dennis was, Dennis wouldn’t have lasted long with his relationship with Dot
Your dots true 🌞
Definitely
More like Mark Fowler
More like fatboy (Arthur cubbs)
Should have been the end of nick after this, everything that needed to be said was said there was no way dot could have forgiven him for this
When you love someone you try and justify and forgive their actions no matter how bad.
Rest in peace june brown eastenders lost 2 of the best
Watched this on its original broadcast: still a powerful scene after all these years. Probably the best that EastEnders had been for a long time. Flashbacks to Eddie Royle's murder, the poisoning plot etc. whilst Dot was talking would've reinforced to the audience, especially the long term ones from 1985, her finally reaching the end of her tether with Nick.
Remember when he killed Reg?
@@Quirky_Ventriloquist Oh yes, originally I didn't realise that he was the culprit. So many misdeeds!
i love nicks earring :D :D
The first time he genuinely apologised to his mum. The 2nd time was right before he died.
Right after he shamelessly grabs the cash and slivers away
part of me kinda wishes this had been Nick's last appearance it would have been pretty powerful in its own right for him to lose his son due to his scheming and then finally lose his mother after years of her giving him second chances.
This was so unlike Dot. She was always in denial about Nick's behavior.
Well her grandchild died because of him so even for her this was the last straw
John altman is a great actor and june was as well
Beautiful!
1:58 the final time they've locked eyes on each other
I genuinely thought that was it for Nick back in the day, like this was the end of his storyline. Looking back, I don't know why I thought that - he's obviously not the character to turn good, and he's clearly the kind of character who keeps going until he dies, which is what happened.
I guess because Dot was done with him, and he'd done something he genuinely felt bad about (Ashely was never meant to die, Nick's intended target was Mark) it seemed like a good place to end his storyline back then. He doesn't turn good (would any of his fans even want him to?), but he crosses the line and shows the only amount of remorse he'll ever show, and finds that he won't be forgiven ever again - his days of having his "Ma" to fall back on are over, and we can use our own imaginations to decide what kind of (most likely evil) things he's doing now.
Short sighted decision to kill off Nick, and now with June’s passing there is no family connection at all for Dotty’s character except Rocky, a character that no one cares about.
I don't agree, there's only so many times you an bring back a villain before it becomes farce. Even in some of Grant Mitchell comebacks the writing was heavily criticised for being poor and out of touch with his character. They'd done everything with Nick, his character was spent.
Love Dot :)
What i dont understand is why Dot fell for Nick's lies again when he turned up later with his daughter Dotty/Kirsty.
Because she is too eager to see the good in people and because Nick always had a kid with him so she'll put up with him for the sake of her grand child.
That's the reason you can come up with for Dotty. Charlie's old enough to know better (and he does know better)
The same reason why she tried to look out for Donna when everyone else had shunned her, the same reason why she gave away her winnings to strangers and the same reason that over the years, even when Dot *knew Nick was lying and was involved in misdeeds* she gave him another chance, because of her Christian ideals and the belief in ultimate redemption and salvation for the spiritually fallen.
Whatever Nick has done she is his mother she loves him she wants to see the best just like any mother
Well done, Dot! You should have washed your hands of that rubbish years ago. I have no sympathy for him at all, and I was delighted when she chucked him out!
Jhon Altmann and june brown fantastic actor s
yea they work well together.
Dot breaths heavily after Nick leaves just like she does later when she's arrested for Nick's death.
Al-right Dot!!it's called tough love!!
They shouldn't have killed off Ashley. He had great potential. And Charlie was a cheap imitation.
R I P Ashley
I'm glad that Dot rid of her son Nick
To be honest, June Brown looks better these days than she did a decade ago... slightly older, but a lot healthier.
Great actress, shame about her wooden son ;-)
Oh, he will be back Mark, he will be back. :)
The last time Nick and Mark see eachother.
Nick returned 7 years later when Mark was dead so luckily for him he saw the back of Nick once and for all.
i disagree there,both browne and her son are excellent actors
Many many years later, Dot would once again kick Nick out AGAIN..this time however her grandson would be alive, just as angry at him.
Poor Nick
kippy123ful Why poor Nick? He got what he deserved.
Poor Ashley. I always thought his character was killed off too quick. He could have been a great permanent addition to the show.
Nasty nick legend
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It was ridiculous when they introduced Charlie.
They should have never killed off Ashley.
They should have just made him wounded.
They could have still have had this brilliant acting.
But it certainly did for a great scene.
How come Nick wasn't locked up and convicted? Sorry, I forgot?
They never reported him to the police. They seemed to just wanted him to disappear
Somehow, I thought Dot was going to mention something like 'You've been possessed by Satan, Nick Cotton'
However, Nick only wanted to kill Mark and not Ashley
Now that Mark's dead, Nick will be thinking 'this is my lucky day' lol
nick looked better there than he he did last year
Where on earth did nick go in the taxi and how did he get by on £200 to his name only
No doubt he scammed stole and cheated elsewhere
@@dylancampbell4738 he must have because he always seemed to have money
Noooooooooooooooooooopp
bloody adverts !
ROFL XD
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Sharon pre Dennis
Ashley's death was mark's fault not Nick's
How??
Ger mark constantly bothered him and criticised him for looking up to his dad.
@@eddietiller3162 And Nick tampered with the brakes not Mark.
Mark made Ashley get on the bike.
@@eddietiller3162 It is true that Mark infuriated Ashley to begin with yes.
Mark technically also caused Steve's death by goading Phil about Steve's getaway.
eerrr dirty git lol
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