Pick My Allotment! | The Tiny Garden
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 26 ส.ค. 2024
- Hey guys, this is a little impromtu video because I had some news about an allotment!
I am in a complete dilema and so bad at decision making sometimes! I've decided to upload the footage and ask you for some input!
Let me know what you think, put your favourite in the comments below and why!
Sorry I couldn't get more footage Storm Isha arrived 🙄💨
All the best,
Laura 😅
Hey guys 👋I have an update for you. Please check out my community post if you are interested in finding out which plot I picked. th-cam.com/channels/vRaxMQxTiZ9j9fJO7_jhyw.htmlcommunity
I'd say go for the ones with structures as its expensive to buy and time consuming to source secondhand polytunnels and sheds. Also you need to take into consideration how close you are to facilities, i.e. water, parking, site deliveries of woodchip, manure etc
That is a really good point! There is water on the site and some of the plots are closer to parking and the wood chip drop off points, so much to consider!
Go for plot no 1 I’ve bean allotmenter for 5 years pollytunnel covers are only 40 to 50 pound and it’s got other structures
Yes one or two, it’s important to have a structure but also that the plots next to you are well maintained or you’ll be dealing with the crap growing through to yours. Omg how exciting Laura and here’s to a fantastic 2024 growing season. Stay safe, Ali ⛄️☔️🇨🇦
The plot on the right as i walked i to plot 2 wow it was gorgeous and the bed frames all painted in the other plot so creatice, reminded me of you a little bit actually 🥰 cheers Ali to an abundant 2024 season! Xx
Plot number one is the one I'd go for .
Awh thank you Sabrina, so fun to hear which one you'd pick 🥰
Number one for me. Nice big fruit cage and shed looks reasonably good condition (might want to check for leaks though). It was hard to guage the free space for raised beds on that first one but assume it's reasonable and just short grass so you could put raised beds down and not necessarily have to clear the grass. You could maybe take the polytunnel cover off and use metal mesh over the frame for climbing plants like squash.
I think the polytunnel frame looks better quality on the first one that the fifth one which looks like one of those cheap ones.
I wasn't able to check for leaks on the first plot shed!! The tunnel takes up a good chunk of the space, maybe one third? Maybe more? That is an interest perspective on the frame just as a climbing frame 🤔😅
@@thetinygarden_ An open frame is much less likely to blow away than a covered polytunnel. It's the plastic that catches the wind. If you do grow stuff over the polytunnel frame then those plants could act like useful shade for veg that doesn't like too much direct sun in summer e.g. lettuce.
I guess it all depends what you want to grow though as to whether you want a covered polytunnel. I can't have one on my plot because it's just too small. So things like tomatoes and cucumbers I just grow at home on the south facing patio where it's sheltered. I'm going to try and grow some blight resistant tomatoes at the plot this summer but I anticipate they won't do as well as at home in the sheltered sun-trapped patio.
For the she can you at least check the roof condition to see if the felt looks in reasonable condition? When I got my plot the shed roof was a mess - water poured inside - and I was planning on just refelting but in the end I put a big OSB board as the existing one was rotted.
I'd give the fruit cage a bit of a rattle too if you can. I think it's quite easy to get excited about having certain features but then when you start working on the plot you realise that things aren't in as good a state as you hoped.
Good luck whichever plot you go with. I'll look forward to watching your videos as you make progress.
Exciting! Tough decidion - I'd pick one of the plots w the most structures, like plot 1, 2 or 5
The structures definitely felt like a bit of a win on the way around! 🙈
Congratulations!
I think the first plot is the best. There is a shed on it. In it you can hide from the rain and store your tools.
Thank you!! A shed is definately something I'm going to need early on!! 🌧️ I don't own many tools 😅 something for the list!
@@thetinygarden_ sheds can also store seeds, soil amendments, potting mixes, etc. It's much nicer to open a bag of potting mix that isn't turned to mud in its bag, trust me! 😆
@ErraticPerfectionist I had to move a bucket of soil once that I forgotten to cover. I had no holes in the bottom... to say I put my back out was an understatement 😅
I think #1 or #5 are best. So excited that you have one coming! 😊
Thank you Char I am beyond excited and slightly overwhelmed 😅
Either the one with no structures or the last one. Great choices
Thank you Rebecca!! Can't wait to get going now!!
I'd be torn between 1 and 5 to be honest. By the sound of your voice I think you'd like the 5 😊
I thought the same re your voice sounding more excited about plot 5. I would go for that plot. It looks like it’s a more manageable working space and clearing the beds wouldn’t take masses of work and seeing those clear would be a great motivator to do more!
🙈too many decisions, I am just blown away way by the amount of choice! They all have different characters that I like 😅🙈 so nice to hear which one you would pick 💖
I think I would go with the majority and say #1 seems like you will have less of a hassle to get it set for the coming season than the rest. Which for me, at least, is something that weighs a lot when making a decision like that.
No1. does have a few bits on it to get my going for sure the poly will need rewrapping,, the shed is cute but wasn't able to check for leaks. It's kind of narrow plot and I'd want to move the tunnel to maximise the other grow space 🤔 💪 but the structures in general might save me some cash!
Saving cash is not bad. Gardening can so easily run away with your wallet. Such a hard choice, really. Since there are pros and cons to all of them.
Number one has a great shed.
A shed will definately need a shed no matter which one I choose, it rains so much here 😆
Step 1 - i would get the compass out and work out east west north south then i would chose the ones with the best sun travel position once that is down you can then narrow your options. Allotment is always hard work so your choice can then also consider if you want a blank canvas or if you want an already established plot.
in all i saw plot one with its poly tunnel is tempting esp sein as you are further north the question though is how much space do you have left to grow on 😅 good luck with your journey of choosing ❤
A compass!!! 🧭 Stella I don't think I've even owned a compass! All the plots face the same way except no 4! I think I can try my best or orient the beds north/south the catch the most sun as most of the plots are pretty empty. The poly tunnel on plot 1 does seem to take most of the growing space but maybe that is a good thing? 🙈😆
@@thetinygarden_ If you have an iphone you have a compass app. but if you don’t open your gps app they normally have north marked i think 🤔 Part of why we garden is we like to be outdoors so for me the poly tunnel takes away from that but if your goal is self sufficiency even in the winter and being able to grow more fair weather crops in the summer, then a poly tunnel is a good idea. the other poly tunnel is a cheap one which i would only use for a brassica cage if i was to get that plot. good luck with your choice. A blank canvas is the best as you make the space yours in every way - when you take on other people’s ideas they only work so long before you change them 🤣😁🫶🏾
Hi Laura, wow you have 5 options to choose from, that's awesome 😊 I liked the lots with structures on them as in the long run that will save you money but also you have a place to keep your tools,wheel barrow etc.. number 5 I liked the most because you had raised beds already in place and again that is money you don't have to spend on immediately and you can start planting whilst you set your layout for your lot. I think all the lots have ample space for growing. The only thing I think you need to consider is which lot gets the most sun throughout the day. Personally I wouldn't worry about what other lots conditions are next to the one you choose because you will be able to maintain it and looking at the lots it looks like mainly grass is the cover on the soil. Best of luck to you as you make your choice Laura, I have full confidence in you that you will make the best choice 😊👍
5 option Julie, I'm beyond greatful! I can't believe it still! I think the only tool I own is a shovel but I will need some storage and a shelter from the weather!
Thank you sharing tour thoughts and for sending all the positive vibes I'm am starting to get a bit nervous about where to start 🙈😅
Number one is my fave. If you can easily get structures then the biggest plot closest to the water. Xxx
Plot 2 is closest to the parking and I think each plot is serviced with water which is a win!
My pick would be the first one. Fruit tree cage is going to be well worth it, not to mention the shed and the polytunnel (even if it does need a little bit of fixing).
You'll quickly be grateful for the ready-made infrastructures!
#5 would be a close second. It has some really good infrastructure framework as well, with the option for chickens if you're thinking of trying that out. The proximity to the drop off point sounds like it would be very handy.
The only drawback I could see is it'll be a lot of work clearing out that runner grass, which looks like the popular kind here in Australia. Everybody puts it in and then wonders why it's constantly popping up in their garden beds all the time 😅 it's a tough one to beat, but it is pretty hardy even during drought which is why it's so popular.
I didn't get to look in the shed on plot 1 which was a shame! There was so much grass everywhere, I need to really think about whether to wood chip the paths or leave them grassy 😅 it rains alot here so maintenance would be something to consider! Something with a structure is definitely appealing
If possible Laura have a 2nd visit and take some paper and a pencil/pen.
Spend a little while on each plot standing at first in front of the shed or where one might go.
Look at the plot and jot down pros and cons.
Also consider how you feel as you will no doubt spend many hours tending your plot so having one that feels right is important.
Also see if your phone has a compass to ascertain if the plot will be sunny.
Then check the sheds to see if they are usable as they are or if they need attention.
New felt for a roof or patching areas should be easier than the logistics of getting another shed to the plot.
Then have a good walk around each plot looking to see what's growing both good and bad.
Then when you take on a plot make yourself known to other plot holders.
It's amazing how helpful this can be as you may be offered free seedlings/plants and items to use on your plot.
No doubt you will also receive conflicting advice but just say "Thanks that's worth considering"
Just don't commit to ideas as some people can take offense if you don't follow their advice!
Then enjoy having your own plot. Don't fret about getting it pristine immediately. It all takes time and most allotment growers are still learning and changing our minds about our growing spaces years after starting!
Even Monty Don on Gardeners World doesn't get everything right and we all have good and bad growing seasons.
Best of Luck
Rosanna!! 🥰 thank you for such wonderful advice on how to navigate my first few weeks at the allotment site. Since putting out this video I started to feel a bit nervous about where to start and how to get settled! I tall alot but I can be shy at times. 🙈
I can't believe I didn't think to see if my phone had a compass app! I'm going to do some rough drawings and see where the creativity takes me 💖
Hurray! You have an allotment! For me, it would definitely be number 1 as you have a polytunnel you can fix, you have a great shed you can fix and you have a fruit cage! Wow! Just brilliant as they are all expensive to buy. It also has a fence which again you can fix . My second choice would be number 2 as it has good neighbours and again it has a shed. My third choice would be 5 because again it is fenced and it has a polytunnel although not as good as number 1. Definitely number 1 for me! Whichever you will choose will be great for you and you will transform it into something fabulous! I am so happy for you 😃🎉🎉👏👏😘💕🌸
Thank you Nanou I am thrilled! I can't believe the choice to I feel so greatful that I have an option! Even thought the decision is super difficult!
Thank you for sharing your preference! Your advice is as an allotment holder is so valuable!
I appreciate your positive vibes and I hope I can do you proud on my allotment journey 🌻🥰🌹😘
Laura some things to consider are position of each plot in relation to parking.
Being relatively close does help both in safety when you are alone but also for ease getting supplies etc to and from your plot.
Being nearby to water taps is also beneficial.
Also an open, sunny plot is always a plus although in this respect they all seem to be OK for this.
I think being next or near neat, well kept plots is another consideration.
Its lovely being next to like minded plot holders who take care and who will endeavour to keep their weeds under control!
Plot 2 has one neat plot to one side and I think keeping the chicken coup could prove useful, either to open it up as an undercover small seating area out of the sun or possibly cover it in with solid panels and attach a small door and use it to store bulky items thereby keeping the shed less full.
Plot 5 has the shed and a fruit cage which is real asset. The neighbours plot on one side also looks in good order.
For your first season you could purchase special poly tunnel tape and make good the poly tunnel.
Then down the line consider purchasing a new cover.
Which ever one you choose I wish you the Best of Luck and hope you enjoy many happy years being the proud owner of your new plot.
Hey Rosanna 👋 sorry I'm only getting back to you now I had to go the the office today 😆
Plot 2 is closet to the parking! I think all the plots pretty much face the same way and the sun exposure will be relatively similar. I was very intrigued by the shed chicken coup combo I'd never seen something like that before. But I will want a polytunnel at some stage too I've never grown in one though so it's all very new! I appreciate so much taking the time to share your thought process and you have given me so much to consider ❤️
Lot 5. Having a poly tunnel that only needs new plastic, and being near the drop off site are great positives.
Plot 2 is closest to the drop site for soil and wood chips! 🪵 I need a wheel barrow that is for sure. Appreciate your vote 🙈🤗
Hi
So exciting 🤗
I would go for no1 it has shed, fruit/brassica cage… polly tunnel structure you could repair etc…. these things are so expensive and hard to erect if you don’t have help. You don’t necessarily have to have raised beds to start to go no dig… you can do raised ones when your able. But the choice is yours… which one did you feel in your heart was the one for you… I get the feeling it was no5.
Good luck and can’t wait to see which you choose and future videos of your work, sowing, growing and harvesting there .
❤️🤗🌷 🥕 x
Katie, it's sooo exciting I have been dancing around the house expressing my excitement since the first phone call 😆💃 I did think about that the no dig approach but I wasn't 100% sure. If I don't necessarily need to invest in the raised beds straight away which will help me get started in an affordable way. I must do some research into dig/no dig I don't know much about either method if I'm totally honest 😅
Thank you for your positive vibes and thoughts 💖
@@thetinygarden_
Awww bless you 💃🏼 I would be too if I’m honest ….. I know what I would be doing now… on the internet buying seeds…. Onions… chillis, peppers and aubergine seeds can all be planted now inside so they can be taken to your plot when big enough 🤗❤️🌷🥕
Whatever one has the best tunnel. As long as the frame is sound, covers are not that expensive.If you've never had a poly tunnel before you'll soon discover you can't live without one.
I've never had a poly tunnel I planned to build a mini poly cube in my tiny home garden this year and now I have the allotment!! Possibilities are endless 🙌
Option 1 for sure… recovering the poly is easy and cheaper than you think x
I must look into the cost to reno this! Thank you for your thoughts!!
@@thetinygarden_ a poly would give you a longer growing season and a nice bright place to play in the rubbish weather x
It's great to have many options. I'm looking forward to seeing which one you selected.😊
It was amazing to be able to choose!! Plot tour will be out later today hopefully 🙌🙈
Well, I am sure which ever you pick, it will be amazing once you get it your way. 😊
Thank you DN, can't wait to get going, nervous and excited all at the same time! 🤗
A couple of things to consider: which one gets how much sunlight. There are tall trees around and shade can come from neighbouring structures too. It is a lot easier to create shade if you need than to create sunshine, so you are probably better off with something that has as much sun as possible. Another thing: ask around if the site has ever got flooded, if so why. From rain to flash floods, broken sewage, if it has happened try to get the plot on the highest elevation. And last but not least, try to get one that has a tunnel or a greenhouse already. Those are expensive to buy or build, if you can get one to start with that will make a world of a difference in growing summer crops. If you have to repair one, see which one is the easiest or cheapest to repair. A shed is good too, but I think a greenhouse is more important, you can hide in your GH from the rain but you cannot grow tomatoes in a shed. ;-) Good luck and congratulations anyway! 👍
The tall trees could be a problem it's been so misty and overcast it was hard to see how the sun manoeuvres in across the site!
I didn't see anyone to ask about flooding but two of the plots are up at the top of the site slope!
I liked the idea of the shed but you have a brilliant point..you cannot grow tomatoes in shed haha!! Thank you Rev you have given me a good bit more to consider now!! 🙈
There's a good app called SunCalc (available on Android, not sure about Apple) that lets you put in your allotment plot location and then you can move a bar on the screen and it shows you how the sun tracks across your plot. You can also change the date so you can see how the sun changes between seasons. This can help you see if things like trees might be an issue. For example on my plot there's a row of tall fir trees just opposite my plot - I checked with the app and the sun tracks nicely right across my plot during the morning and the trees start blocking the sun a bit late afternoon. It's only an issue for me late summer/autumn though if at all. Obviously the app can't assess for things like structures on adjacent plots though.
@@thetinygarden_ If it's a sloping site, try to avoid the lower lands, all the rain from the entire hill will land on the lower plots. I had to eventually give my first plot for this reason, I was sinking all the time, especially in this climate, and it's not good for the crops either, I had a lot of root rot coz the soil couldn't dry fast enough.
Oh wow what an awesome piece of info I'm going to see if i can download the app now and see 🤞🌤 thank you!!
Oh no sinking allotment 😳 thank you for letting me know, it rains so much here I definitely want to avoid that 🌧
Just to be different, I'd go for number 3. Blank canvas with some plastic down to kill off grass/weeds. You can make it your own and place things where you like. You don't need any structures for the first year. I made do with a box made out of old pallets to hold tools for a long time.
Hi Rob 👋 I have been on Facebook market place all week looking for pallets and things that might help me get started! I totally understand what you mean about starting out as a blank canvas, I think there would be some maneuvering with some of the structures to put them where I'd like them to go! Thanks for your thoughts!!
@@thetinygarden_ I'm glad you've made a decision and wish you lots of luck, with loads of fun on your new plot.
@robevans6864 thank you for your well wishes! Roll on spring!
My head says no.1. The polytunnel structure looks better than plot 5 and both need re-skinning anyway.
Feuitcage and a shed too. Bonus!
No. 5 would be the second choice.
So many choices Clare, torn between my head and my heart 😅
@@thetinygarden_ I feel the same when why there’s lots of muffins to choose at the coffee shop. 🤣
You’ll make the right choice for you. There’s more to the options here, that we can’t see. Which is closer to a water supply (if there is one) for when the butts run dry, closer to the car parking for carrying supplies, and do any have less pernicious weeds (hard to tell this time of year).
Such a big decision but all look to be on flat land which is a massive bonus
For a complete blank canvas, if you’d prefer to plan it all from start to finish, is the one under the tarp. That doesn’t look too bad either.
I would go for 1 or 5 that have the structure there, you can take your time repairing things and grow at the same time. It’s so expensive to set everything up from scratch
Hey Mairead 👋, I looked on in awe of your garden reno last year! It's definitely going to be a huge investment to start from scratch!! There are so many decisions to be made!
The less developed ones give you more options to make your plot the way you want without having to demo or undo what is already there, but if you like one of the ones with structures, the one in need of the least amount of TLC would probably be wise. Good luck and congrats.
Hey Josh 👋 thanks so much, totally agree on the back canvas approach but getting a little help in hand wouldn't go a miss a suppose! Thank you for your help!!
I would go for whichever plot is closest to the delivery point. On my site my plot is one of the furthest away from the area where deliveries are dropped off and after moving many tons of manure, wood chip and compost I really wish I was closer. Even simple things like bringing seedlings to the plot can be a pain after several trips.
If there are two close to the delivery area then go for one with a shed as this is also important for storage of tools, pots etc and it’s also somewhere to hide from the weather, both hot and cold.
Plot 2 is closest to the parking/drop point! Thank you for sharing your experience, I appreciate it Adam!
I was only thinking about the rain but I am almost equally allergic to the sun and burn so easily!!
This is goodnews laura.flat area plot is great and also the one that dont flood.either 3 looks great.om excited for you❤😊
Thank you Gracie 🥰 most of the plots are on a downward slope I think 🤔 I can't wait to get going!!
@@thetinygarden_ your welcome.goodluck laura.😍
One thing I was happy about my plot is that it's at the top end of a sloped field. I didn't really think about this when I got the plot but when we had a lot of rain a few weeks back the bottom corner plots got flooded. That might be something worth considering for your plot.
Yes I agree top of slope is better than the bottom that might flood
Oh interesting!! It has rained so much here this past year i was drenched when i got home after filming this! Plot, 2 is on the highest point of the slope, followed by plot1, the other 3 are towards the bottom/more flat terrain 😳🌧
Number 2, chicken coop, nice expensive shed, great for potting up, camp stove for tea and secure, prob good free compost at the back, neighbours seem to keep their allotment tidy, either side. The
Polytunnel on the other allotment are ripped, cost a bit to replace... the green polytunnel is cheap....but your choice.❤
Hey Laura 👋 I thought that chicken coup shed looked so interesting, I'd never seed anything like that before. I didnt even think about chickens till I turned up and saw the coups!! So many choices, but I really appreciate your thoughts 💖
@thetinygarden_ just thought it would be a nice she potting shed and fruit cage,if you don't want to keep chickens..wood is expensive so that shed has many possibilities much more secure than a polytunnel. You could get a polytumnel later once the plot is tidied up. Ask a company to sponsor you..x
1. 2 or 5 ... mainly as they have sheds.
3 and 4 would be a lot of work. Ours is a actual field and I know from that how hard a blank canvas is but you can make your own.
I like 5 because you have the frame could just buy a new cover which I don't think is expensive.
If you wanted a shed if you went with plot 3 or 4 you'd have the cost of that or even just the wood is so expensive.. again going off what it cost us.
Don't think I am actually much help here 😂
Wood is soooo expensive Tracey 😩 those last two raised beds I made put a massive dent in my pocket haha 😆! So lovely to hear from someone experienced and about what it's like starting from strach with no infrastructure! 🙈
@thetinygarden_ our start up.costs were phenomenal when I look back lol Wood, chicken wire, netting plus all plants etc
We were on the list for a council plot for so long honestly I'd been on nearly 2 years so jn the end we sourced our own .... 7 month into our plot we got offered one but as it happened my parents were moving closer to me so I took it and my dad works it as he'd be lost without his allotment.
I just shared a vid of our blank canvas and for it it's wow look how far we have came had we had the choice I would deffo go for something with a shed greenhouse poly tunnel.etc
You will do amazing which ever plot you choose
@@thetinygarden_You can check the DIY stores for decking. They usually have offers on that are pretty good. I got some premium decking (just slightly thicker than standard that's all) for seven quid a board. So just over 20 quid for a 2.4m by 1.2m raised bed (by cutting one board in half. Think delivery was free over a certain amount. I thought this was pretty reasonable but I guess it depends how frugal you are. I know some people like the challenge of doing things without spending any money.
Plot 5 or 1 have potential and structures can soon be made good .
Thank you Susie 🥰 I am currently writing a list of things I love about each one ✍️📖
Ooooo, soooo exciting! I'd be going for something with a shed for when it rains and somewhere to store some basic tools. Polytunnels and that can come later, but you want a little base camp. And even if the structures are a little worn, you can patch it up in no time at all.
Ah, I'm so happy for you! I was trying to get the plot next to me but you can only have two plots at once which is understandable!
Cant wait to see the updates!! 🌱😊💚
soooo exciting!!! I can't believe it! Some sound advice and thoughts there Jake, I appreciate it!
The heavens opened when I was down there I was literally soaked through the bone!!
Thank you for your positive vibes 🤗 I didn't realise your plot was a double plot!
Location is most important.
The sun. You need to know where the sun rises and sets and where it will track between these points. Then work out if the plot is in a sunny location and where and when it will be in shade. You want a sunny plot. One of my plots has shade one end in the morning and sun in the afternoon. The other end of the plot is the reverse. Put your sheds and compost bins in the shadier areas as plants need the sun to grow. Some shade however can be a blessing to work or rest in in a heat wave.
How close are you to the water, most of your time in the summer can be spent on watering with a well kept plot. Also carrying water a long way can be tiring.
One of the plots looked particularly wet on the left hand side, does it flood? (plot 4) You do not want a plot that sometimes floods as it will wash way nutrients, top soil and kill plants in the winter. Plus the ground will take longer time to be in a state to cultivate in a wet spring.
Sheds are a bonus if they are sound and do not leak. Polytunnels are obviously a big bonus if it is a quality polytunnel, but not if it is a cheap "blow away"..
Weeds, well all the plots had weeds, nothing surprizing there. However you want to avoid a plot full of bindweed and some other difficult weeds, they probably all got couch grass a slightly difficult weed to control. Unfortunately bindweed dies back in the winter but you may be lucky a see a few leaves to identify it.
One of my plots was three quarters covered in bindweed when I took it on. I dug a lot out the first winter. It came back with vengence the following summer. I am retired and could visit daily. Everyday my first job was to remove any bindweed shoots and as much root as possible. It was a nightmare, I thought that I had taken on too much. In late summer I noticed less regrowth. I kept up the process the following year. After two and a half years it was all gone. It grows quickly, the roots go down seven feet sometimes and regrows from the tiniest root fragment. It is not esy to get rid of, but it is possible to win.
Being close to where you get the manure etc is a bonus especially if it is free or a low cost. I did mine out as ROTTED manure for free at a local stable. Its hard work but it is free and I can be generous with it. Make sure the stables do not use weed killer on their fields. Google Aminopyralid to find out why it is bad and how to test for it with a bean test.
Soil, I will asume that the soil is exhusted due to neglete and people taking from the soil in harvest without putting back in with compost or manure.I assumed my soil was impoverished and built up its fertility over 5 years by adding rotted organic matter to the soil every year. I knew I could fix impoverished soil.
Raised beds are popular, they do separate paths nicely. However you may find the wood on them rotten and need replacing. I do not like raised beds and removed them from my second plot when I took it over. They are slug hotels.
Look at the allotments close to the plot, are they well maintained (fewer weed seeds to blow around). If they have some winter crops then are they growing well or poorly.
The above are in decreasing points of priority. I have put the weeds one position higher than I would personally consider as a priority because I have cleared difficult weeds before and know that I can get rid of them without using chemicals.
Most of these things aI cannot tell from the video.
Plot 5 seemed darker than the other plots, maybe due to the trees in the background, the trees however would act as a wind break. Blue plastic laid out at the back so maybe some problem weeds there. I liked this one least of all
Plot one for some reason, not sure why, but I did not like it. It looks a lot of work, but has been loved in the past.
Plot 2. Between what looked like two good plots, you maybe able to get some good advice if they are friendly. The side by the chicken coop had some sort of weeds that grew high as the chicken wire was full of dead plant material.
If they kept chickens then their droppings would have been composted and used hopefully.
The shed looked interesting and hopefully sound. One side had glass and went back a long way. I asume that this side gets the sun most of the time and could be used as a potting shed and bring seedlings on, which will go someway towards not having a polytunnel.
That may have been Raspberries in the foreground, if so they need pruning, you need to find out if they are summer or autumn fruiting as they are pruned differently.
The grass is probably full of couch grass a difficult weed, but not too difficult to eradicate. I could not tell what other weeds where present.
It looked promising, it did not look too dark, fences both side were wire fencing so no shade. The polytunnel on the left hand plot may cause some shading but would shade the shed so probably not a problem.
I would put this on your short list, but there is a lot of work weeding to get started, the weeds looked more than one year old
Plot 3
The black plastic has been put down because there was probably a weed problem. THe long brown stems on the edge may be docks, a bit deep rooted but can be dug out, however they are prolific seeders so you would need to keep ontop of the weeding when they dock seedlings are small to eradicate them. Not sure why but I had some negative vibs with this plot, but it could make a decent plot with a lot pf initial work
Plot 4 was much like plot 3 but tall fence on the left hand side may cause shading and maybe a weed problem on the left as black plastic there. I did however like plot 4 as it looked a blamk canvas needing a lot of work but it looked light and airy.
So in the order that I liked the plots most liked first is 2,4,1,3,5. It is the potting shed that has so much potential that sold me on plot 2
When you take on your plot cover the ground that you have not started to work on to kill the top growth and if left long enough will kill most weeds within a year. Cheapest way is PLAIN cardboard that is weighted down. It will gradually rot so may need replacing.
The golden rule is to do little but well and do it often. Do not try to do to much at once, it is a big task bringing an allotment back into production. Take photos along the journey as progress feels slow and overwhelming, but photos show you that you have progressed.
You have choices with the way that you garden. I am familiar with two methods.
1 Digging
2 No dig
I dug my plot the first year removing weeds and weed roots then mulched the beds as if I was preparing a no dig bed. After that initial dig I never dug my beds again. Charles Dowding on you tube has loads of videos on no dig but also how to grow vegetables and get the most from your plot.
Good luck
Kevin
Hi Kevin 👋 sorry I'm only getting back to you now I had to go the office today 😆
Wow what a wounderful comment thank you so much for taking the time to share you experience and knowledge with me!
I think all the plots pretty much face the same direction. That being said it has been too misty and overcast to figure out (I should have bought a compass!) I was told the sun rises from behind the shed on plot 2 and the cage on plot 1. And like you I wonder if the trees will shade the 3 plots at the bottom of the site.
All plots have water access but I have also been told, it can be challenging in the summer when everyone uses it at the same time.
I'm not sure if any of the site floods, plots 1 and 2 are at the top of the slope which could elevate that concern.
There are stables in the area so chances I can source some manure. I will google that chemical and read up on that test swell. I did see a girl in America spread contaminated compost on her garden and it killed everything. I felt so sorry for her, she had bought it from the shop which was so sad.
Wow it took you 5 years to build up the soil, that is so insightful, but also comforting because I want to take my time on this plot.
Sorry about the lack of footage I was drenched through, I didn't realise storm isha was on its way!!
Love the idea of the potting shed, I have such limited space in my house and home garden throughout March and April I tend not to be able to use my dining table for eating because it's full of seedlings! You think they are raspberries in the foreground of plot 2 wow, I was perplexed I didn't have a clue what was growing through the mini frame!
My concern with plots 3 and 4 was the lack of infrastructure to start with I would need to build everything!
The polytunnel on plot 1 has actually dug into the ground so you step down a whole that has been dug out of surface soil level, I'm not sure why it has been dug down.
Your knowledge on weeds is impressive and your introduction on how to get started is beyond helpful, thank you very much Kevin!
@@thetinygarden_ I wondered about the water onsite as next to plot three was an IBC tank so wondered if there was no water onsite. My site used to have only one water source coming into the site, and had the same problem. The water tanks near where the water came into the site where OK as they filled first whilst all the other tanks were empty with no water coming through to fill them up. Some form of water storage may help you here maybe collecting rainwater from the roof and or if you are allowed filling up from a hosepipe when the site is not so busy. Many sites do not allow hosepipes.
I googled "Stables Bromley" to find my local stables in Bromley and then phoned them to see if they had free manure and if they used weediller on their fields. Not fool proof as weedkiller can come in on bought in hay.
It is a waste product they want to get rid of, some let you dig it out for free (dig out the old rotten stuff, it is heavier but ready to use and fewer trips as the fresh stuff needs to rot down before use and shrinks to a fraction of its size). THey may deliver for free or a small charge. Stack any fresh manure and let it rot before use.
Why the ground was dug out in the polytunnel was a mystery. It could create three issues.1 water collects inside the polytunnel, 2 Was the fertile topsoil removed and infertile subsoil left, 3 When the wind blows hard polytunnels can become kites and take off into the air and become wrecked. To prevent this it is normal for the covering and post structures to be burried into the ground. Has this undermined the resistance to wind?
The neighbours will be able to tell you if the plants are raspeberries as they are a little too far away to know for 100% on the video. They will most likely have the dried sepals in clusers left behind from the fruit being picked.
Autumn fruiting raspberries (called primocanes generally as a group), fruit on the current seasons growth and are shorter plus they do not need support. You cut them to the ground after they have fruited and before they start to regrow in the spring.
Summer fruiting raspberries (called florocanes generally as a group), fruit on the last seasons growth and are taller plus they do need support. You cut all the canes that have fruited to the ground after they have fruited mid summer. This puts all the energy into the new growth that has started to grow and fruit next year.
Be aware that raspberries spread by shoots coming from their roots as the shallow roots spread underground, so need to be managed.
Good luck
Kevin
1 or 5 as they both have things to work with. The other two look very exposed with no proper boundaries and the other one just has a massive chicken coop which looks a pain to remove.
I did wonder about the plots with no boundaries Tony, I imagine that's the first thing I'd need to sort. It would be cool to have a chicken at some point but maybe I concentrate on the veg first 😆
Nice video, when we got our allotment, we looked at sun position, shade, shed option, water location... need a little luck too. Thanks for sharing
Thank you, it was only a short few clips, I was in a bit of a rush because of the storm! I headed back up there today in the sunshine 🌞 it was lovely up there. I'm excited to get going now this weekend! 🙌
I’d go for Number 1 Laura! Good luck 💚
Laura, have a dig around with a fork see which one has good worked soil, the structures are irrelevant, its always easy to think your getting lots of stuff free, poly tunnels and sheds, but if the soil is well worked, you are putting less money in to condition it, you can always ask if you can have the abandoned tunnels and sheds, soil is key, as that's what your aim is, to grow stuff, the structures are not what you are looking for, its good worked soil, that you can get into and grow straight away..The aim is to grow......
Some of the soil did look compacted, I didn't bring a fork with me! Rookie error 🙈 and ultimatley I want to grow more amazing veg and things that dont fit easily in the garden! Appreciate you taking the time to share your thoughts, it's really helping me to look at things from a different perspective 🙃🙈
This is a great point
Congratulations, Laura 🥳 fpr getting your allotment and having an option to choose one. Really exciting 💚😊 There are so many pros and cons about all of them, so looking forward to finding out what you chose 🥰
Best wishes, Maiju 💚🌿
Thank you Maiju I can't wait I really can't! I was so lucky to get a choice! I am off now to place a seed order 🤩 hope you're staying warm in Kerry! 🌨
Well done to plot No 2 🎉🎉🎉 😊 Exciting times ahead 🥰
If it's not the cold, it's the wind and then vice versa 😂😂.....
Might have to come down to yours for a bit of sunshine 🌞
@spudsandroses thank you lovely ❤️ I am slightly worried the shed might not be there after the storm we had 😅 the doors been wide open all week!!
You would be very welcome down here Maiju 🥰🚗🌞 road trip!!
@thetinygarden_ jees, last night's wind was terrible, came at a totally different angle 🫣....I'm sure your shed will be OK 🥰, otherwise, you would be handy enough to fix it 😉😁
My first choice would be to go for no1. As it has structures shed and you need somewhere to shelter and those things are expensive.
I learned being our in the rain is no so fun while I was up there 😆 I got caught in the start of Storm Isha I was soaked right through 🙈
I would look for the one that’s near to water supply, easy for deliveries, a shed and maybe a polytunnel even if you have to replace the cover
Plot 2 is closest to the site drops and parking! All plots have water I think 🙌
New subscriber I like no 1 and 5 best both have good structures that are going to save you a lot of money, although no 5 has no shed has good beds already to either one of these two would be really good , what ever you decide I look forward to seeing you putting your plans for it together, you will love it, have a great week always a exciting time creating a new allotment, Tracy 😊
Welcome to the channel Tracey!! Appreciate your input and positive vibes for the new journey 💖 nervous and excited all at the same time!!
@@thetinygarden_ you will love it bit by bit you will get there 😀❤️
Hey Laura! So which plot did you choose? I have to agree with most commenters. The ones that already have a shed would be my choice. An added poly frame is a good addition. I’m excited for you Laura! Thank you for sharing your life with us. Your friend from America, Cindy. 😘
I am going to sleep on it Cindy! I was so caught up trying to get the first chapter of my dissertation completed for college I didn't get a chance to clear my mind and think about it!!
It was so rainy when I took this footage so a shed would be ideal!
I am so excited too and I can't wait to show you each step of the way! Thank you for being here Cindy! ❤️
@@thetinygarden_ It is my pleasure to be a part of your adventure Laura! 🙋🏻♀️😘
So excited for you!!. My community garden closed this year so no plot for me. I have to learn to overcome my black thumb when it comes to container gardening. I'd need to know...Are you planning To have chickens right away and is any lot bigger by sq meters than another or are they same size? Unless it's much bigger I'd say no to #3. You can change alot but you can't change overall size. So that would be by far my biggest consideration! Next if you want a structure #1 and #2 both had nice sheds. Then I'd take into consideration neighbors. You want to get along with them. Are they already growing anything on fences or anything that might make your plot to shady. Do they use pesticide or organic means to grow? Alotto consider but I'd put most weight on size
Thank you so much, I am so excited to get going!! That is such a shame about the community garden closing 😞 I do love my containers but they are so hard to keep watered, and we get ALOT of rain!
I don't think I'll get chickens straight away, to be honest I didn't think about chickens at all until I saw them 🥰 something I will definitely think about getting at some point! They are pretty much all thr same size some are more narrow than others!
I am going to need a shed for sure I was soaked through when I took this footage which is why someone the tours were rushed! Thank you for you thoughts!! 🥰🙈
I would go for number 1 or 2. They have already got structures. Sheds to store stuff to get you going. I wouldn't go for 3 or 4. Soil, it looks like it's not any good in the video, and it needs a lot of goodness added. 5 looks OK, but the Polly tunnel is one of them blow away ones.
Thank you Harry!! I did notice the soil on 3 it looked very compacted! The sheds are certainly tempting given the amount of rain over here 🙈🌧
Plot 2 looks good!
I would take all of them if I had the time haha! Thank you! 🤗
No 2 looks the best good luck
The shed on two is huge also well! I don't think the trailer comes with it though haha! Thank you letting me know what you think 🤗
I think options 1 & 2 look promising.
I think there are things I like about all of them, so is just much character up on that site 🙈😅 thank you for sharing with ones you liked 🤗
Number 1 has a good shed xx
A shed is super important, I'll need one for sure to take cover when it rains 😆🙈
I'd say 2 or 5, but I'd like chickens on my allotment, it's your choice really
I didn't even think about chickens and then there I was walking up chicken coup galore! I even saw a few Cockerells! I thought to myself I could have a chicken as a plot friend to follow me around 😍
Going with my gut on this and picking #1. It has the bones of a great plot and structures that will likely be cheaper to repair than build from scratch. I guess what would sway me is how the sunlight hits the plot and if any of the others have a lot of perennial plants already.
My second favorite was #5 with the poly that needs a new cover.
Hard to be certain on a quick visit.
So hard to be certain, the whether was horrendous! I have seen some rhubarb plot 2 and 5! I can't identify anything else. Someone mentioned there could be some fruit canes at the front of plot 2? 👀
There are things I like about them all, I still need to sleep on it!!
because there is a fruit cage on #1, there are likely some raspberry, gooseberry etc. bushes there. @@thetinygarden_
How exciting! I think #2 looks really cozy, and the shed/chicken coop appears to be in good shape. Plus it seems like you'd have great neighbours there. Given so many choices, I think the only one I wouldn't go for is #3 - just because I wouldn't want to deal with that ground sheet! Will look forward to seeing which one you choose.
Oooh interesting thought on the ground sheet 🤔 I can imagine I'd be destroyed in dirt if I want to pick it up!
I am so excited I can't wait. I'm going to start some seeds this week! The shed on plot 2 is so cool, never seen anything like that before! Appreciate your thoughts 🤗
Hi wow what a choice 😊I’m sure you’d my anyone amazing I wish you all the very best 😊🌼👍
So much choice, I was only going to view one and thought I'll take what I'm given 😅 thanks Carl! 🙌
@@thetinygarden_ I’ll look forward to seeing which one you’ve chosen exciting 😊👍🌸
Hi laura from someone who took on a bare Allotment (havent got it now) and know the work involved i would take on 1 or 2 because a fruit cage is quite pricey and you have a good shed on 1 hope yhis helps xx
Hey Corrine, thank you so much. It's so nice to get some solid advice on the bare plot! Super helpful 🥰
if u are wanting to customize your plot to ur own preference I'd go with plot 4, looks really tidy and it has a nice fence between you and your neighbour which would help when growing stuff. Or if u are looking to use stuff from past allotment owners, Plot 5 looks decent with a quick tidy it'll look really well. and Plot 5 will give you a polytunnle which can be pricey for a new one. So imo I'd say Plot 4 or Plot 5.
I also think that plot 2 takes up a lot of space with the shed but if u are thinking of having chickens id choose plot 2 as a chicken coop would be very expensive to set up and it already has the framework of one there.
Plotn4 was very tidy and i liked the idea ofnl having grass paths! I loved the shed on plot 2! I was drenched through the bone when I was up viewing them and feel like a shelter early on is important! I could see myself getting a chicken or two!
Thank you for sharing your thoughts Kyle! 🙌
Number 1 is what I'd pick.
Thanks Jo 🙈 ahh the choices there were too many!!!
So which one did you pick!? Dying to know! Can't wait to watch you set it all up and start growing
I put up a poll on the community tab to ask if everyone wants to know now! I don't have time to get down there with work this week so the reveal won't be till then but I feel like that is too long to wait!! 🙈😅
@@thetinygarden_ I'm another newish Irish gardener with only a back garden like you, and this video made me long for an allotment so much that I reached out to the private allotments near me (I haven't had luck with them before) and by fluke they had just expanded! So I'm going to look at their available plots next week. I'll probably be on the same timeline as you this year, so I'm extra excited to follow your progress!
@TheHelican oh wow that is super exciting!! It is so hard to get a plot, I've been looking for months! Sounds like you might get a bit of choice too! Some amazing tips in the comments for what to look for, flooding, water and position to the to the sun seem to be the most popular and then all the extra bits seem to follow depending on how you want to approach it!!
One thing I do wish I did first time around was bring a hand fork to test what the soil was like, after all its veggies and flowers that we are after 🤩🙌
I am so thrilled for you, best of luck for your visit!!
Just from the quick glimpse, I go for #2
Great minds think alike Steve 😄 had storm Isha not arrived I would have gotten some more footage!
@@thetinygarden_ Brilliant - looking forward to seeing it grow, excuse the pun LOL
😂😂😂 thank you!
Plot 1, the Polly tunnel frame is stronger and the shed looks okay
Thank you 🙈🙌
My vote is 1 or 2. The chicken coop is a huge plus
The chicken coup is so cool! I didn't even think about chickens as an option on the plot. I totally had the blinkers on thinking about big heads of cabbage and pumpkins 😆
I looked into allotment in enniscorthy. What put me off was no sheads ect and you even need permission to put up a bean structure. The whole idea of allotments is you have somewhere to keep your tools ect. You can rent a space in there polytunnel but again not the same
I've heard so many people say that about allotments Elaine, I always think to myself, where do all the tools go!!
Me the same. I don't drive so I'd be hoping there is somewhere.
@@elainemcgran8828did you head down to the allotments for a look yet? 👀
LOVE your videos 🌱🥰
That's such a nice thing to say, thank you 🥰
Personally I liked plot 2,the plot owners next to that look like they know what they are doing so could be a big help to you
The plots either side were lovely they had so much character 😍 I could learn so much too!
But ultimately you have a choice of allotments! Just have one, its a wish come true for you, and waiting lists are long..
A total wish come true I am beyond lucky to even get a choice!! 🤗
Looks like where I had my plot, C54! I'd love to know if it's the same place 😊
Oh no way! There wasn't any numbers assigned to the plots so I have no idea!!! Small world if it is!! 🙈😆
I'd go with 5 cos some of the structure is there xx
The beds do look in good condition, I can't imagine they have been there for long!!
Number 5😊 how exciting for you 😊
So many decisions kerrie!!! 🙈🙈
Hi laura im so happy for u sweet ,
Id be the same love ,id want all of them ,
Id check the soil first ,doesnt matter what it got on it ,iff the soil is crappy ,wet boggy ,
Then decide ,allthough the shed is a bonus ,
Knowing u tho u will soon be taking another lol cos the more ground u have u allways fill quck
U wilp soon be planting ,
I really am so happy for u ,
Well done u ,
Thanks Janet to say I'm a bit overwhelmed by the choice would be an understatement 😆 I want all of them haha can't wait to start my seeds off now I'll have so much more space to plant! I just need to decide which one to pick 🤔💭 hope you're having a nice day 💖
@@thetinygarden_ aw bless u ,
Hope ur able to decide soon ,I'm sure u will choose well ,
Good luck with ur seeds ,and prepping ur allotment when u take it over ,
I have to say I'd be tempted to have them all lol
Let me know when you do decide and take it on
I'm so glad I'm with u on your new venture
Carnt wait to watch it grow
All the very best
Oh by the way ,I have no idea what happened to my onion seeds ,they were doing so well ,
But lots of them so I decided to pull the weaker ones out
Any way kept them in doors ,
Covered ,and looked today ,there all drooping
And some have had it altogether,
So back to the drawing bourd lol
Take care til ext time ,
Thank you Janet 🥰 funny you mention the onions, I had some spare ones in a pot up near the house and they all went rotten on me, not sure what happened it was brand new compost as well! 🤷🏻♀️ I will keep you updated on the plot for sure! Take care till then!
@@thetinygarden_ so onions may be out this year for me any way ,
I did better with spring onion last year so maybe have a go at them ,
I think I'm giving them a pass this year
Looking forward to the allotment news x
I'd take 1 or 5
So much choicee!!! 😅
I'd definitely not go for 3 and 4. You're not getting any structures with them for example. Plots with a shed and poly tunnel are better I think :)
That thought did cross my mind and toying with the idea of a blank canvas is also fun! 🤷🏻♀️😅Too many choices!
I am just blown away that there are what you call allotments. They actually have land spaces that folks can rent for gardens? Is that part of the apartment complex you have or it is a separate thing? This is really cool, but have never heard of this in the states.
Hey there 👋 this is a plot of land that they section into plots (usually 50, 90 or 200square meters) and you rent them on an annual basis to grown veg or flowers! They are usually separate from your house / apartment rent. But some lots are run by the local city council.
They are very common in the UK and Ireland 😀 can't wait to grow more food!! 🙌
@@thetinygarden_ That is so freaking awesome !! I have never seen anything like that over here. (Granted, I have not really been too far out of my state to really know.) We have to fight in the city to allow a neighborhood collaborative for a plot of abandoned land where a house was torn down, just for the neighborhood or organization to do an urban garden to benefit the community. There are a few such places but often abandoned shortly after the first season, or non profit funding stops. I love that such a thing is available to you ❤️
2 or 5 😊
Of course you would choose two haha 😆💖
@@thetinygarden_ 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 oh Laura it’s so exciting, I can’t wait to see which you choose 😂
Ooooh yeah!!!!!❤
It's all happening so fast 🙈😅
It’s going to be great!! Maybe the odd moments of panic 😱 but you will love it 🥰
3 or 5
Thank you Jenni🤩
ID PIC 1 OR 5
Thank you for sharing what you'd pick!!! 🙌🙈
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