Spotify No Longer Paying Artists For Streams In 2024?
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Whats up Curtis. What's the name of that reverse royalty calculator site ? I tired looking for it couldn't find the site you were on
streamingcalculator.com
Thank you
Its Never Been A Better Time To Buy The Art *From The Artist!*
AMEN!!!! SAY IT LOUDER!!!
OR maybe they dont buy youre art because youre actually not on anyones wave.@@xic777
The artist are too scared to
@@awwskit9753you jokin right?
@@awwskit9753like who you think is scared to have their art brought what
The thing that they are not addressing when it comes to the model is TH-cam is free to upload. Music distribution in most cases for indie artists is not free. If I pay for a storefront, I want all revenue generated no matter how small.... Keep preaching the gospel Curtiss.
Love, love LOOOOOVE the audacity of the music industry right now. All this going to do is allow the creme to rise to their independent levels even more naturally. Love it, love it, LOVE IT! Shoutout to all the independent artists! 🙏🏿🎧
Nothing will change until payola stops. There is a reason Taylor Swift and Ed Sheeran get their music played on local radio stations but local musicians don't.
facts cuz playlisting is gatekeeping as well now@@RealHomeRecording
wut.
@@RealHomeRecording I appreciate the feedback, bruh. What does payola have to do with independent artists? From the days of its inception, that's been a music INDUSTRY practice where labels pull necessary strings to lift an artists. As far as INDEPENDENT artists goes, the music BUSINESS will always be centered around the art. Payola is for the mainstream consumers. Shoutout to them. True fans and communities will follow the art regardless of payola.
@@KanuKatalyst u got it
Idk why but I find this whole situation *super inspiring.* Them making the robbery clearer is only gonna drive more ppl to support the true innovators directly.
SAME 💯
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lmao you're too optimistic
SoundCloud gonna be the 🌊 again
I pray it does
@@BigVolcano314 let’s also take action not wait on the day
@@DayyFinesseI don’t think so bc a lot of the female demographic don’t take SoundCloud serious anymore the past 3 years I have yet to see them use it unless it a song that’s not out on all platforms but that’s it.. even then you tell a woman your sh!t is on SoundCloud she will most likely not listen or take you serious..
@@user-ew6el2xt7r lol who cares what they think 😂🤡if what u making is good nd u building a solid fanbase slowly then who cares abt their opinion on that 😂😂😂😂they gonna chase after u when they see u got ppl chasing after u 💀
@@DayyFinesse lmao but they do… you think a bunch of dudes is why lil uzi or 21 are big NO dumba** it’s always been the women that push the music Chris brown didn’t make solely off of “male” fans if you think so you slow 🤣 js talking about “fanbase” duh mf you need a decent female fanbase as well 🤣 all I’m saying is mfs look at you tacky for dropping QUALITY on SoundCloud that era is over… I’m helping you out
I don’t really like using Spotify as a music listener. And I’m a music creator and performer and I’m about to finish my studio album, man hearing this makes me not even want to upload it on Spotify. You are right, I’d rather sell CDs hand to hand and digital downloads on iTunes than have to depend on something like Spotify.
I think it's okay for exposure bc you need discovery from ppl like me who might search or shazam you but its gotta be balanced with paying the bills. Best strategy might be to stream some songs but keep some exclusive to buy direct from you with merch or some other perks
@legato666 right because that's not accounting for all the people who sold CDs hand to hand at shows etc
@Legato6669 lol I know artists personally who make a KILLING off selling physical CDs. I'm not saying ALL artists but some artists do make money that way. Now, as far as mainstream goes, I'm sure they don't.
@@Legato6669 and it's impossible to find that number my good sir
@Legato6669 yeah pros and cons speaking for myself and what I've seen and been around local artists make more selling physical copies than streaming but let's say an independent artist like Russ might make more off streaming. I run a studio and I have clients who can sell 1,000 copies at $10 a pop here in the city and surrounding cities. But again if we are talking mainstream, or just bigger artists in general I totally agree with you
I feel like I can easily generate 17 streams per month but the fact that Spotify is cutting out smaller artists is a painful reality
I thing it’s 17 streams per song.
@@marcusmagellan That I can also do, but they're robbing the smaller artists now not only of an audience with their terrible algorithim, but also with money
@@Clone7_Productions Spotify enjoys stealing from artists.
What I am hoping ( And waiting ) for is a Napster moment in the streaming industry and if Spotify don't learn.. let them be MySpace 🤞🏾
Yes this needs to happen 💯, the streaming companies don't make music, they use artists as free labour to make the companies rich and their in cohoots with the major record labels. Artists are employees (with no rights and benefits) working for the Streaming companies and the Major Labels and no pay.
Amen to that!!!❤
Music has been around why longer than Spotify, Spotify will suffer as a business, the Musician on the other hand will just move on to the next best thing
They basically said 80% of artist who don’t/can’t meet the threshold are slave laborers and they’re gonna take the little bit of money this do make and give it to other people. This should be illegal honestly. I stopped using Spotify a long time ago
This is why I always said, "artist need to get back to selling music on their websites only". If you go back to the old way it will fix all of this, less music on people's playlists but music they chose. Artists will have to get back on their ground but it would fix all of this
@@Synth_House_Chicago exactly 💯. I seriously believe the goal of this new plan is to make small artists leave their platforms to only have major/ signed artists on it. Making it harder for independent artists to outshine mainstream artists and make it "harder" to find upcoming artists unless they sign. A slick way to make artists sign contracts
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@@quas3728 💯💯💯
no they need to go back to releasing their albums on CD
@@RidinSpinners36 nah but sell mp3s or albums that you could add to your playlist
People should figuring out how to create their own streaming Services the DIY WAY, my advice would be to start your own website an sell your products on your own website to get the full commission for their work of ownership, the LaRussell Way.
This is a great service, you do to the music community, should keep a session weekly dedicated just to financial aspect for producers and singers.
It's not too different than how TH-cam will not pay unless you earn over $100.
The difference is, TH-cam told Partners upfront, Spotify are now changing the rules after the fact.
What do you mean? TH-cam does pay even if you make less than $100, but they just make you wait till you made that $100. Spotify on the other hand would simply straight up not pay you at all.
@@mvricks90 then musicians should take their stuff off Spotify
Indy's need to go direct to consumers. They are being ripped off.
I'm not here to defend Spotify, but let's make sure we identify the right villain here. When Spotify first came to the U.S. they had to make licensing agreements with the major labels in order to have their music on the platform. Those agreements demand a certain percentage of Spotify's revenue. That is why we don't get our fair share of the pie. This is about giving the majors what they have demanded or the majors will pull their music from the platform. As they always have, the majors continue to find ways to screw artists out of their money.
nah thats still spotifys fault. they shouldnt have agreed to the majors terms. let them pull their music. bye bye! where else are they gonna go?
@@vinnyrealyou forgot the majors own the back catalog to a lot of the older music people listen to as well. It’s not just the new music being put it so yeah the majors have a bigger pull in this deal.
@@vinnyreal Yeah, but without the majors Spotify goes out of business. Indie artists & labels don't generate enough to support their business model. The deal is bad for everyone but the majors, but Spotify had to take it if they wanted the platform in the U.S.
The major labels own all the music that brings millions of people to the platform. They have been giving everybody else the 🍆 for decades. They aren't gonna let that change as long as they have the power. This is just the latest example of that. 😡
@@waynebo248 All indie artist have to do is pull their music. They change you have to change. I appreciate your post because it shows how the system works. Yeah they shouldn't have made those deals, but the indie artist shouldn't have to suffer as a result. Just remove your music.
@@phillipcain4118 Nah, removing my music wouldn't help me at all. I definitely won't push Spotify as my main platform, but I have watched artists build an audience and get to the point where they are making money on Spotify. As I build my audience, I still need people to find my music wherever they want it. If they become a fan, I can lead them to my website or Bandcamp. If not, then hopefully I can get to the point where my all of my tracks are crossing that ridiculous threshold.
The point is, if all indie artists pull their music, it would mean nothing. There would still be millions of people on Spotify listening to major label artists.
This is why artist and producers have to find other ways to make money because unless you get a lot of streams a month to make a decent living is almost impossible. With just streaming alone.
You can’t keep doing the same thing and expect a different result. Obviously this changes things but I feel like the ones with brains will always find a way to monetize. You really gotta love this sht imo. Cause this shows you it ain’t about the money. The music is simply not enough anymore. It’s a whole package you gotta bring.
If all the Platforms start doing this, this might be the thing that will bring Physicals back cause this is crazy
Agreed.
I believe that it will also make many artists stop bringing their fans onto Spotify and take them on other accessible platforms instead.
It will also force many creators including my self to innovate and create unique merchandise, other than CDs and Vinyl.
It's really messed up what Spotify about to do to all us independent artists. But that's our fault for loading our music to their platform and making them super rich with our music. And all we get is crumbs of cents per streams. I do have an idea how to beat their way of cheating us of our art. Listen why don't we all have our own website and just upload all your music thru your website only and only allow fans to download it instead of streaming it. You let the fans pay whatever they think the track is worth. I think that's a fair deal. The fans win and so does the artist. So what yall think? We must make a difference and start doing something about how all these platforms are all making millions of our music why we get nothing for our works.
i think hostung nusic files will be expensive. i have different music videos on YT sone of which are viral and im still not monetised because still not quite enough total view time. but hosting and traffic elsewhere night be expensive until u get people to pay
If you don't put a fixed price, there is going to be people paying 0,01 cent for every music u got bro, and you will have to find a way to get your music exposed to public
We had a discussion about this in my class last week at GSU. If I’m not mistaken what I learned from it is that with these new rules the majority of the money that you spend on subscriptions WILL go towards the artist you listen to now. Also they’re cutting the micropayments to the tracks that underperform. The threshold is like 5-10 streams a month (an artist could do this with no fans). All you have to do is stream your music and you’ll get your money instead of it being pooled
And ive been breakin my neck trying to get on a curator playlist. I’ll drop my music on vinyl before I ever do that again.
That Sleepify album concept is wild!!!! haha good for them that is hilarious!!!!
This is now going to force the bar to be reset for aspiring and/or indie artist to really step it up.Hip Hop seems to be on the way out, unfortunately.We all are to blame for that. They started to ONLY push , mumble ,drill, and ratchet rap to the mainstream and everyone insisted on sounding the same and it worked to diminish the art form.Sales have suffered and fans have moved on or totally abandoned Hip Hop.
How do you see hip hop in 10 years?
As much as I understand your sentiment, hip hop as a culture has faced this in the past with gangsta music in the 90s, bubble gum music in the 2000s, and mumble in the 2010s. Something innovative is bound to reset the market
Dude stop babbling!You all wish that!
@iammoamp hopefully still relevant .I understand what you're saying about each decade having something purists did not appreciate. but the other sub genres of Hip Hop still successfully co existed and sold music.A Jay z fan listened to ATCQ.We listened to Luke and Dr.Dre.Today a Drake fan is probably not a Lil Baby Fan and the collabs are forced , seeming not genuine and calculated.
Artists forget the business part in music business. They make the music, don't advertise it and wonder why nobody knows that the artist put out any music.
@orlock20 I don't think it's necessarily forgetfulness. Most artists are not fluent in business/marketing, that's why managers and specific departments exist, lol.A true artist is so caught up in the craft and love of music, they don't have the time or patience to successfully promote themselves. You need a website, social media pages, an adsense account , streaming service( and write pitches).I know you know this .I am just speaking for the ones in da back!
I quitt Spotify some months ago because of their Universal, Sony BMG, Warner "secret contracts" - that are not paying the average Artist!
But I didnt think it could even get worse. Spotify/Universal clearly ripped off millions of Artists...and destroyed thousands of musicians careers and dreams.
Im on Tidal for now.
I think I’ll be pulling my catalogue from Spotify, Amazon, and Apple. I’m tired of investing thousands of dollars into a product that helps these companies profit but earns me no returns. Apparently I have nothing to lose but "the chance to make it," so why keep playing my hand at a table rigged against me.
Why isn’t there any information on how much a Spotify, apple , iTunes etc stream is worth? Not what they pay artist but the actual value of a stream. What are the platforms “ take home” after they pay artist?
There is information, simply google it
I feel like the monthly fees every account pays is just straight profit for the platform smh
first time im finding your channel, and i love how you have this honest, no-nonsense, simple breakdown of this. subbed, and though I found so much of your video helpful, I was most astounded by how the like button turned rainbow when you mentioned it lmao. i had to rewind it. and then I had to click it. cause y'know. it was rainbow. AMAZING
This is happening as I want to join Spotify Artists. I am completely new to music production, and this is my reward, nothing but pain. Well I guess I am not wanted in Spotify Artists.
I have no money and because of my illness, I cannot work, so, I have no proper income. This Spotify Artists was meant to be my income.
Thanks so much Spotify Artists. Guess I might as well wait to be put out on the street.
Liked and subscribed 😊
Here's the deal with Spotify though... This info been public. Spotify has also been openly honest about the fact that they weren't even sure if this business model would be financially feasible. They're STILL trying to see if they are going to be able to turn a significant profit on that joint. That's why they moved into podcasting and moved away from music.
The pie sucks for independent artists, but the truth is, streaming still doesn't work for almost anyone in the industry and only the top cats are eating well.
They wanna rob indie musicians and give to major artists. Me personally I’d rather be the person that sells one song and get a real supporter
This is crazy! This means NEW upcoming labels will have to climb a long ladder to stay up. Watching all the way from Vanuatu
Exactly what I was saying.. streaming is a game of numbers and this move harms indie record labels and artists... I have over 100 tracks on Spotify the tracks under 1k stream per year cumulative generate 15.345 streams from various sources..that to me means that my 15k streams will go to another artist instead of me but people listen to my music.. wrong move Spotify
Curtiss, u inspire me to create something fresh and new. Much love
The curse of innovation!! When we had tapes and cds the artist had more control.
100% agree there gonna have to readjust that standard at some point even if the threshold is raised a bit. the threshold is to draw out serious artists from non serious artist and prevent fraud streaming using bot AI and i get that, but still they whillin when they thought to have us independent artist share money with the most popular artist. I'm sure most of us gonna see how much their gonna get out the Spotify platform before they decide to switch their focus to a different platform streaming platforms (Apple Music gonna be the only wave now) while others are gonna put up with it and take whatever they can get (which makes Spotify look at us like "y'all still gonna put up with us regardless"). The impression that we're being sacrificed to keep the popular artists pockets heavy if not heavier and I'm not sure if its cause the music industry starting to feel a rope on their throat, but its looking like they had to pull this string and negotiate that deal because their noticing that most of us can manage on our own without depending on them or maybe less and less artists isn't interested on knocking on their door or negotiating a deal with them.
What I don't understand is why the artists who are making millions/billions of dollars don't just collectively together build a streaming platform that would take subscription earnings from listeners and make the amount given to artists per listen fair. Also have their own distribution system that would take a tiny percentage(just enough to pay for site maintenance/labor). This ensures you don't run into people uploading music that's not their's but you don't cripple the artist with royalty cuts. And if most artists jumped on it then labels would lose power and therefore smaller fairer royalty cuts/contracts.
I love how it's so easy for Spotify to change how they pay out royalties, but if we as artists want the royalty rate to change, we have to go through litigation. 🤦🏾♂️
Id say unionize to shut it down
These people are nuts & have forgotten who put them in the position they're in. I may not push my future releases on their platform. Big labels are slowly dying anyways.💯
Mainstream muscians made Spotify.
Major artist will probably hire a dream team of stream farmers after this lol
Drake released an album a couple of weeks ago and is already falling off the Hot 100 chart. I don't believe a dream team exists as the so called popular artists aren't popular. The only popular artist making their money in the music industry is Taylor Swift. Drake sells hamburgers and sport tickets while Beyonce and Rihanna sell clothes and perfume.
If you're at all any good or assertive you could sell 2,800 $10 CDs in your local metropolitan area. In a MONTH. PLEASE don't let these multinational corporations pimp you if you don't need it.
SPOTIFY SUCKS FOR INDIE ARTISTS
Thanks for speaking on this and breaking it down. Almost every article I found talking about this had little to no info about the payment change.
What they doing is completely disgusting. Disrespectful to artists and musicians in general. They basically telling you that unless you hit certain streams you’re not worthy of payment. Nonsense.
i currently get 2000-3500 monthly listeners on my LoFi artist page, one of my tracks currently got traction and engagement this month, it already had some previously, will i get effected by this whole change? is it gonna be per track or total streams per month? will i have to wait an entire year for my song to be enabled for royalty even though it amasses the minimum threshold even in the first month of the year?
True indeed. And let's make sure we understand how Spotify defined "fraudulent activity". Uncleared samples could cause further problems with crazy fines if they fall into the fraud bucket
they might be also talking about submit hub and others
Spotify doesn't pay neither does Apple, TH-cam, Tidal. They only pay the majors because they own stock in the companies. We had a billion streams and they'll create ways not to pay.
Controversial take: I'm ok with this. I'm not a huge artist, but I have about 7.5k monthly's. And even at my stupidly small size, I will be amongst the indie artists who meet the requirements to earn royalties on pretty much my entire 300+ song collection. Currently, I make about $100/month in royalties. If sacrificing my homie's $0.30/year means I take home $120/month, that's a sacrifice I'm willing to make. Call me selfish, but my royalties at least help with groceries unlike the people who can't reach their $0.05/month goal.
That said, I'm skeptical that I'm gonna see ANY amount of increase in my royalty payout after this change is implemented. Can't help but feel incredibly cynical towards Spotify claiming to pay artists more in any regard. I just don't see it happening. Paying artists fairly is bad for business unfortunately.
Beatport and Sound Cloud is where it’s at.
Bandcamp too
On one hand this stinks. But like I tell my artists everyday, don't let money be your goal when releasing music. Let new listeners and fans be your goal. When you do finally grow your fanbase, then the money will come. But knock out the best quality product you can, every single time, and push it to people. This with constancy will make you successful.
On the news a few weeks ago, i immediately to all my music down from spotify and requested they delete my account. They did. Good. Let someone else work for 1/3 of a penny. Good riddance.
Im about to cancel my spotify. Im down to going back to cds or something like it
I'm going to put my hands up here, back when CD's were the default, I used to steal probably 90% of the music I owned. I'm not talking about Napster, I mean, I literally stole it out of the record shops. (In case your hackles are rising, I guess 'I got mine' when my brother threw out all my 'clutter' - ie, collection - when I was seriously ill in hospital!)
The gas part is, now that I actually pay for the music I listen to, like an honest citizen, I actually feel greasier about it then when I just shoved it down the front of my trousers! At least then there was at least a _chance,_ (or at the very least, I kidded myself there was a chance), that the artist got some few cents for the recordings I stole, albeit that the music store had to 'eat it', whereas on Spotify it used to be, 'til quite recently, that I would have to play a song literally dozens, if not _hundreds_ of times for the creator to make so much as a theoretical penny! And now, it turns out, most of them are going to make Sweet Fanny Adams; those digital shavings going instead to - Hell, I don't even know, who _is_ the modern equivalent of The Stones, or Michael Jackson, or The Fugees?! I was gonna say Taylor Swift, but is she even _on_ Spotify? (Did I hear that they had... differences?) This 'Drake' person, I suppose. It's like as if I bought a work by some obscure poet, and found out his royalty went instead to Stephen King, or Lee Child! It's time Spotify were called out for the bunch of bums they are! How is this piracy, this, fraud, effectively, even legal?! This isn't the first time I've thought of 86'ing these vultures; til now I never have, because of 'sunk costs'. With this latest creep move, though, I think I may make the move. I may be an admitted thief, but even I find being complicit in this sleaze too hard to stomach!
That zzzz track is 🔥
Re contract law (and you did agree to one when you submitted your content to a distributor) they can do what they want. However, re tort, profiting from what you have provided without recompense is property theft. I'm certain that a trial outcome would be that any content that doesn't make their threshold after an agreed period of time must be removed from their servers. In short they can't have it both ways and simply take the millions of pennies from smaller providers and use them as suits them best. They'll either have to back off this idea or blow back special change of terms of service agreements to everyone via the distributors. Which you can of course refuse. That seems the most likely outcome, sadly.
Incidentally, I used to sometimes say to audiences "we won't be playing any Beatles songs tonight but don't worry because Paul McCartney will still earn some change from performing rights..."
What about listening to your own music on Spotify? Does that count as fraud? I just do music for fun and so none of these changes really matter for me but I’m wondering if I can still listen to my own tracks.
That is why it is always better to stick with itunes. They pay people way better.
So Why now Should We Pay For Song Distribution From DistroKid And BeatStars And Others DistroKid And BeatStars NEED To Get Involved And Talk To Spotify...
I enjoy Spotify & started using it in 2021 or so, after not knowing what it was about or the hype.
U not gonna stop me from enjoying it with this news.
If anything, the pie is just who helps the platform the most & the new rules, basically is making it more legit for people who use it's services to promote their music/sound etc.
They never did. Neither does any of the other streaming services. If you wanna become Famous and Broke at the same time. Become a rapper
It makes sense The people that's actually generating money for Spotify should get More money and alot of small artist doing streaming fraud
Need to go back to selling out the trunk,shit sell them a flash drive with your music and artwork on it…This streaming shit is ridiculous.
That's my new 10 year retirement plan on spotify. Sue them for keeping me smaller than I am and preventing growth and wages owed for 10 years.
Thanks for this video bruh. This just opened my eyes all the way. I said 2,888 subscribers to just make $10.00 now factor in they control who gets to see ya shit that just means u just another employee of Spotify and Apple if they not going to ya own site WE MUST CONTROL OUR OWN TRAFFIC GOING FORWARD
Every year or two since Spotify launched in 2008 the pay per stream rate has gone down (From about $0.008 in 2008 to about $0.003 in 2023). Despite Creators pleading for an increase in the pay-per-stream rate, Spotify has simply ignored Creators, claiming they (Spotify) are losing money. Now here we are heading in to 2024 and not only are Creators NOT getting a rate rise, but on the contrary Spotify is telling 80% of the Creators on their platform.....WE ARE NOT GOING TO PAY YOU ANYTHING!!! Yes, 80% of Creators on Spotify do less than 50 streams per month. Just imagine if a Distributor were ever to tell Creators "If you sell less than 1000 vinyl records, CDs or Digital downloads, WE ARE NOT GOING TO PAY YOU!!!!
Thanks for breaking this down. Learning to do more and more DIY stuff everyday and you are RIGHT it is the future, it is the now.
Pootietang did that silent track first. Copyright infringement 😂 Great video Curtiss!
In the end Spotify’s Greed will be it’s own undoing.
We need to unionize as artist
Recording Academy of the United States should be the union cause why really are we paying dues
Because as you can see with the writers strike we can force there hand for a better price. Without us there is no price and now with this model the pool of artist is smaller so the one’s actually making money can have the upper hand
If all of the big artist and mid level come together which most of the time that’s the voting arm of the Grammys they could do a lot
@@jazzampawhat useful did you offer here?
this post is about artists unionizing, and as much as I like the idea - I do not see how that would be possible. if artists mean “musicians” we travel globally. and on top of that, there’s really no unity in this field. it’s basically everyone for themselves. musicians can’t even unify on how to fight streaming services. litigation is needed the legal side, and looping is needing to fight from the inside 🔂
Just from watching 1:23s into this video, it sounds like they’re trying to create thier own version of a blanket license.
Don’t worry, I’ll watch the rest and change this comment if I’m wrong.
Edit: I’m still somewhat right about the blanket license analogy.
When that dude said that “you have to be drake!”, It sounds like Spotify is going to become
Shit-ify!!
I have to subscribe to gang -I watched you 5 years ago when i went public with my music! look at the evolution! im glad you still going hard brother . thank you for informing the people always
i wish there would have a blockchain based or web3 based streaming platform where everyone gets equal share according to theirs contribution 😑😑😑
i also feel like they doing this because of Russ nd all the powerful independent artists that pissed off the majors
This is why soundcloud is changing the game with their new system! Everyone needs to follow suit. Unlesd artists decide to release their own specific streaming platforms.
I truly miss the days when getting you’re music out involved going to shows moving threw a crowd and handing out demo cd’s.
Yo new subscriber here lotta people try to make the same content as you but don’t really say shit of substance. Appreciate your work.
Sleepify!? What in the Pootie Tang!?😂
The Key Word Is LABELS They Are Trying To Make Is How Is Was Before Streaming When You Had To Sell Physical Copies And When The Labels Were Mostly In Control Of That They Are Trying To X OUT / Get Rid Of Independent Artists THE LABELS GOT TO THEM / Spotify WOW
artists need to sell direct to consumer but the problem is most consumers dont want to buy direct, they'd rather stream for free. blame napster
Re TH-cam having also a threshold: if you distribute your music with digital distro like CD Baby or Distrokid, you can monetize right from the beginning, without threshold.
What's funny is the "you gotta be Drake"
Drake's music ain that great. He's just marketed to the point of being a buzzword.
Take it back to buying albums and paying the artist.
@@jazzampaCurtiss King, you’re whack for actually trying to censor the TH-cam comments smh.
One way to make money with your music.. Perform in shows around the world! 🎤🎶
If you play an artist you like’s song at least 400 times, they’ll get the $10 you pay for Spotify. Stream them 800 times, they get twice what you pay for Spotify. If you really wanna support an artist, don’t solely play their music, play their music a lot. It’s not about how exclusive your library/playlist is. It’s about volume, or in other words quantity of streams. The more you stream their music, the more they make. Not playing Arianna grande doesn’t take money from her. Playing other artists’ music does.
Agreed, but unfortunately:
one indie artist’s 200,000 fans VS Ms Grande’s millions and millions of fans, will counter that strategy.
Like what the example in the video, you might make $60K but the rest of your $640K was put into the pie. Of course $60K is better than nothing $10 but it also negatively affects indie creators that have medium-big followings as well.
We should never give up on What we want to achieve, but we all including my self, have to be smart about how we never give up.
Ariana Grande is what masses prefer
Time to form independent dsp’s
200 Streams on Spotify is like 8/10ths of a cent. This is a non issue.
First time watching one of your videos,
I really appreciate the content AND the energy you bring 🔥
Liked n subscribed!! Thanks again Curtiss King!!
This is the literal reason we should just abandon online streaming value and replace it with actual physical recording copies again that we buy in stores and play on record players, but this time they are high tech obviously it’s a modern, but new revalued way to the Artists accessibility so we still don’t need labels to distribute these for us. We could do it ourselves and sell album copies. I don’t know bro I think the value system now is fucked up. Back in the day it seemed so much easier to make money on music but without going through a record label, which was different back in the day it’s like a double standard, so it was hard to succeed without one back then.. but if we just made it to where we could succeed without it now and sell records in record stores again while maybe they (the stores) workout percentage deals for their market hosting ‘said artist’s’ album.. shit could be so different and this career could actually be a paying job for us
This will just cause streaming Rivals to win!
I’m going to get CD’s printed up for all
My mixtapes again and I’m going to sell them last time I sold CDS was 2020 and I did good I sold all 200 copies $5 each
2:27 thats that Pootie Tang shit 😂😂😂
If they don't want to pay the least they can do is start being an aggregator for sync licensing and actually being more playlist-driven for indie artists. They don't even understand he way EVERY artist has to promote. They should start there.
Spotify is the best music service ever. I used to buy cd's, I had over 3,000. I move from apartment to apartment. I don't have room for that stuff. Why would I buy albums, when I can listen to all of them for $11 a month? It's up to the artists to use Spotify to get their music out, and make money in other ways. I go to shows, and buy merch. I can't afford to buy every album I want to hear, and now the precedent has been set. All music, all the time.
Almost Ain’t got no choice but to pop the trunk with cds again
hi guys since 1.January my streams stats got down but in fact my homies from school listen to me on spotify but since january i dont see streams shown in my stats on spotify for artists whats going on? my songs had 1000 streams before january
Having same issue whats going on anybody knows?
Bands will now add IT and cyber security professionals to their management and marketing teams.
I love all the optimistic comments on this video. I hope you all succeed and find prosperity.
I already ain't much from my music but now IM FINNA MAKE NOTHING? wtf
the cd analogy is a good one g & like we always hear it ppl know spotify dodgy but u defs put it in perspective- sounds like we should all blackball spotify i need some merch haha
subbed too G
8:03 "That's y'all friend." 🤣🤣🤣🤣