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The Design of French Bread Fighting Games | EFG Extra 08
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 19 ส.ค. 2018
- The surprising history of French Bread studio: basgrospoing.fr/en/articles/t...
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Their games are unbelievably good.
I love the way both UNIEL[ST] and Melty Blood feel buttery smooth to play. I just want to thank Serizawa's design philosophy, the awesome people who comprise French Bread, the fans and community of their games, and the Chemical Lovers for making this video!
I kinda wish they could make another game with a sprite style similar to Melty just so I can see more characters in that smooth animation style. For being based off a game released in 2002, the sprites in AACC are so fluid.
It sucks everything had to be moved to HD, but French Bread’s animations shine in UNI as well because they look and move so much better than their competition. They never feel stiff when moving around and there’s so much individual character and personality. The poses are so good, even when the characters die it’s well animated and it actually looks like they’re dead lol
UNIEL rapidly became one of my favorite fighters of this generation, although I never touched Melty Blood before. Glad French Bread branched out to making their own franchise.
My time with UNIEL and ST made me get it and I don't regret it. It's a fun and fluid game that's similar, but air based as the video said.
I picked up melty for under 7 bucks the other day. It's not as good as undernight imo, but the game is pretty fun.
TimtheEnchanter I love freakin Melty blood with how smooth the characters move despite being from a visual novel.
@@kyshowman6847 from a porn visual novel, even xD
*even if the H aspect wasn't really overbearing on the rest of the whole work*
It’s pretty fun th-cam.com/video/hfSeMfymOio/w-d-xo.html
Yup Under Night has to be my favorite fighting game in recent years
This game deserves this video
I still remember french bread back from Ragnarok Battle Offline
YO! Ragnarok offline squad reporting in! Where the rest of you at?
Best party game!
@@akathesk Yesss! RBO is what got me interested in fighting games in the first place! It took me a good number of years before I finally got *into* them, but once I did imagine my surprise that the first one I finally enjoyed, UNIST, was made by the same studio!
French Bread via their promo and own liberties with UNIB back in 2011 was what really made me take after their concept of characters in creating my huge slew of OC's, and streamlining the fighters in my dream text crossover fighter lol
Because of BBTAG I have a renewed interest in UNIB
Absolutely fantastic games, and the philosophy behind it says it all. Thanks for the video.
I would really love it if they made a new melt blood or a Fate Stay Night game
TYPE LUMINA BABY
@@b.w.c5933 yeah I love it
I agree so much with the "it should be fun from the first time you play it" premise. I loved melty blood so much, I will give this game the chance.
UNIB is a FG I really like and even own but never properly learned.
TYRANNICAL you ever tried tutorial? It's very deep and informative
Lastest version has a great tutorial system. You may have to reinvest into the series.
I have the 1st release on PS3 but my PS3 has issues playing Blue Ray. I saw that it's on PS4 as well...
This was a nice video explaining the history of French Bread. Under Night In-Birth and Dengeki Bunko: Fighting Climax are awesome fighting games that deserve more attention!
I'm excited to see what new fighting games French Bread will release, in the future!
I own all the games lol. Melty one (as in the first ever mb) is a crazy slow game with odd weight to it. Give it a try.
I love all the games they make. Denkibuko is so much fun and Unist is my fave fg of all time only just beating GG +R
Melty Blood is slow? Oo
play the first one, its so odd. The game got better and better and i love it. Melty became so fast one friend can't actually play it and will just watch us. I would love for MB to come back but Unib is so good FB just need to keep at what they are doing best and it can only get better and better. Grid is just brilliant. Make a vid about that when you guys are not too busy, it's such a fantastic addition to FG mechanics.
"Grid is just brilliant. Make a vid about that" Already ahead of ya.
Sweeeeet. XD
Ever try Gleam of Force or Ragnarok battle offline?
Highly underrated developer.
Awesome video bro. It's simple, but clever. It showed me the group of guys who make some of the best anime fighting games. Thank you.
BUY UNIST :D
Wow, way to show French Bread some love. Great vid. 👌👌👍👍
UNIEL is so lovely. Seth ♡ is a pretty good glass-canon char.
Thanks for this video and the link, finding info on French Bread isn't as easy as other developers.
Keep up the awesome work.
Really good video. Haven't played a French Bread fighting game yet, but I'll save some extra cash to get Under Night. Having a lot of fun with them in BBTag.
got it on ps3 last month , was always a fan but never sat down to learn one of their games. Mad excited to get into it
i love this you got a new sub
It would have been interesting to talk a little bit more about french bread's latest game, Degenki bunko fighting climax and see what's different between this title and their 2 previous games.
I'm so happy this is coming to PC
THANKS FOR MELTY BLOOD AND RBO
Under Night is a great fighting game!
quality upload
Some of the best anime fighting game art
I may not play their games, but I can really respect their views in game development.
Love Under Night and Fighting Climax, and have Melty Blood: Actress Again waiting to be played.
I hope these guys continue to make great anime fighters.
Rc
Have you tried Gleam of Force?
Very good video, but the title had me expecting a more in-depth look into the mechanics of the games.
I want to get into playing this ASAP but I want to know what is the best platform to play it on like where would I get more players to fight against on PC or on PS4 ? Please advise
Many years ago when Shop himeya was still a thing (RIP) i went through a Douijn phase and still have quite a few physical copies of games like Eternal Fighter Zero and also Melty blood. I loved the games but thought there is no chance they would be released world wide....and i was wrong and i am really happy French bread stepped up to the plate and i really hope they do a melty blood game with under night style graphics
Just in time for UNIst release at Steam! *first comment?*
Ignacio Conde When??
Shadow today!
Didnt know i was buying a game today lol
Wait... No mention of their doujin days? Games like ragnarok battle offline or their boxing focused fighter?
What do you mean by cost of hd sprites?
It's really strange that UNIST doesn't even have that many frames in their animations but the characters feel so smooth to play compared to many other fighters with near photorealistic graphics like MK11
I want Melty Blood HD! Smooth animation with high detail sprites! Maybe they could also develop a Fate crossover!
Im not familiar with this, so the title really confused me lol
Heheh, Welcome to EVO 2019.
And now, Under Night is on the EVO main stage.
I really love Melty Blood
Hell yeah
I want ignition
Can someone explain to me how the combo system works in this game (uniel)? I see juggles, otgs, and reverse beats, but what are the rules? How are players extending combos? I’m only familiar with bbtag and other arc system works games.
It's basically a standard chain game, except that everyone can reverse beat. It however doesn't have a traditional air dash, and most characters can't double jump, so air combos tend to be short/limited. Some moves allow for OTG but they're specific pickups (like Linne can OTG with 2C after her divekick hits). Aside from that it doesn't really break any of the rules of your traditional chain game, normals>specials>supers, with the game giving you a sort of Roman Cancel when you win vorpal (the GRD system at the bottom of the screen mentioned in the video). This RC, called Chain Shift in game, basically stops time for a brief and cancels any animation you were in, so it can be used for a variety of things like extending combos (you see Clim in the video do Assault j.A>chain shift a lot in the video as an instant overhead), making things safe, and letting you see a mixup before it happens, etc.
Combo system is pretty standard with some extra caveats that other fighting games don't have. As you'd expect, it has hitstun decay as a combo goes on, and a similar idea to arcsys games of hitstun and damage proration based on the strength of your starting button (in other words starting a combo with a light button drastically limits your combo options and length compared to starting with a heavy).
Where the caveats come in is in regards to OTGs, wall bounces, rebeats, and jump cancels. You get 2 OTG's and wall bounces, and your next move that causes knockdown or wallbounce after those 2 are consumed forcibly ends your combo. OTG's and wall bounces share the same counter, so you don't get 2 wall bounces and then 2 OTG's for example. Reverse beat lets you use each button in any order exactly once with two exceptions (self cancellable buttons like crouching lights you can obviously use several times in a row, and the auto combo system also lets you use the buttons that are in your auto combo string again even if you already used them previously). Finally, you only get once jump cancel per combo.
As an aside, every move with a hitbox low enough to the ground can be used to OTG in Under Night, assuming the move is fast enough to combo after the move you used to knock them to the ground in the first place. You don't have arbitrary OTG moves that you must use to pick them off the ground.
Some characters care more about the wallbounce/OTG/jump cancel limitations than others, and there isn't really much of a universal combo theory in the game as French Bread did a great job individualizing the characters. Everyone of course can just do series of buttons into sweep, but that won't get you very far. That's pretty much most of the deets on the combo system without getting too in depth.
afaik UNIST is the last original fighting game to exist, most of the modern fighting games are either sequels or crossover from other games or anime
Um, there's the likes of Arcana Heart, Chaos Code (although that's heavily referential,) Wonderful World...
All of those and probably far more than I know are "original" and not based of a specific alternate IP (or IP's) of some kind.
@@pseudonym6895 those are older than unist
@@soniablanche5672 Indeed but some of them still do have life. Hell, Chaos Code is actually getting a full-blown sequel (although information on NCC is really sparse with no release date as of yet.)
Sonia Blanche
Them's Fighting Herds(currently in Early Access) is scheduled to be released in 2019. And don't tell me it's not original just because it is inspired by MLP.
I like UNI, but I just can't get the timings down the OS' right now matter how much I lab it. It might just be that I'm not experienced enough yet, with my hitbox though.
How can we get their games on switch? I want them so bad :( I just tweeted the dev
Cyclops was going in!!!!
Still waiting on that Melty Blood HD.
Nasu, remake Tsukihime already so you can give French Bread the okay.
Thanks for the vid!
I've never managed to do Steam (only consoles). Maybe someday though.
Under Night in Birth Exe Late[st] has been on PS4 for about 6 months
Yes, I knew when it released then, thanks. Watched Chronicle & Arcade on You Tube & played UNIEL.
Maybe I'll play UNIELst someday. Been playing BBCTB since launch though.
Have you got any informations on the Akatsuki Blitzkampf games as well?
Not the same developer
Yea I know. But Maybe you can make an episode just like this one about the Akatsuki series.
No because it requires flying to Japan and interviewing them.
I've been playing UNICLR for almost a week now and it is so good. This kind of makes me want to try Melty Blood.
Does anyone the origin or if there is a specific name for the art style that Melty, uni, and other frenchbread/typemoon/touhou games have with all the gratuitous english text, red and blue gradients, lines, glyphs and symbols scattered all over backgrounds?
Where's glove on fight 2?
Now make Melty Blood mix with Fate as fighting game.
Just picked up UNICLR from gamebillet for $10. Best decision of my life.
Im trash at melty but the gameplay feels so good. 😭
What went in to the creation of Umineko Golden Fantasy?
Dengeki bunko is really good too but you need to figure out the combos by yourself but overall uniel and dengeki bunko are the two best looking anime style games.
but what about RBO?
Do Examu next.
See I LOVE the French bread fighting games it's just that non of the characters feel eight to me so I can never pick a main, they all feel slightly off but I still pick the one that feel most right
Same
wait but what about dengeki
I've bought most of their games but I keep not actually playing them due to my backlog. Profound sadness.
Is that a Hollow Knight reference at the end?!?!?!
Which one is better (most skilled) melty or under night ?
Two very different games but Melty has rollback netcode and that's the most important thing.
@@novriltataki ive heard there was a new fan made launcher ?
@@alejandronero4368 For which game?
@@novriltataki melty
@@alejandronero4368 idk
I'm a simple man. I like melty blood. I like man speak and edit nice. I click
Which of French Bread's games is your personal favorite? I think UNIST is their best game but Melty Blood is solid and admittedly played Fighting Climax once, so no strong opinions there.
French bread the goat
Still waiting for HD MeltyBlood :(((((((((((((((((
At this point, they might be able to pull off a Game of thrones fighting game successfully
Instrumental PLEASE!!! YOUR VOICE PLUS OST IS BROKEN
I wouldn't be surprised if a new arcade JP only version came out a month after the steam release. The rest of the world always gets screwed over most of the time when it comes to any arc system game not made by team red.
Melty Blood HD when tho?
It is wrong to dream getting a updated melty blood game?
I'm a month late but happy Melty Blood release!!
Missing best game, Glove on Fight 2: Gleam of Force
I play UNIEL pretty often. I did buy a fresh Ps4 copy, but... eh... I play more on my """"""""""""""""" TOTALLY LEGIT VITA"""""""""""""""""""""""""
No QoHs or GoFs?
Under Night is about the only current gen anime game on the market I still thoroughly enjoy. Xrd fell flat, and DBFZ and BBTag aren't interesting. Also, dat soundtrack, Raito is a God and can hang out with Hideki Okugawa in the best FG OST composers.
MostVerticalPrimate MK II True. It’s one of the only fighting games that seem are truly easy to get into and doesn’t dumb itself down.
@@kyshowman6847 the simplicity of the controls go hand in hand with the complex mechanics and fantastic design philosophy. If UNiST gets a sequel, I'd love more characters or even a dub if plausible. What little I've heard of BBTag sounds good.
Your taste is irrelevant weeb, GG is still the top
@@MILDMONSTER1234 fuck off poser, play a real Guilty Gear game, like ACR.
Mild Monster 👍
Everyone I know is talking about the UNIST Steam release and I'm stuck here, trying to figure out BBTAG.
Despite having it in my library, I've played very little UNIEL so I probably won't spend my money on UNIST. Can't find time to play all fighting games.
That's relatable though. I find myself dropping BBTAG on the other hand, especially considering I can't jack shit about tag games. That & I like UNIST a lot to consider maining it alongside GG. These two & SC6 are probably the only FGs I'll stick to for the coming years.
If you can play a friend's copy or something, I'd really recommend going through the tutorial at least. It's damned good it'll even teach advanced insights for general FG & not just it.
So Exe pronounced "Ee-ecks-ee"?
I've been saying it wrong for at least five months now and I feel like an idiot.
Nobody knows how to pronounce French Bread version names, not even French Bread I think.
Supposed to be pronounced like exe in execution, that's what the katakana is, and that's how it's pronounced on the start screen of the game.
The guy above me is right. And the rest goes "under night in verse exe late est (as in estate, not latest)" according to the official katakana title. And I didn't typo there birth is somehow supposed to be pronounced like verse.
O__o
UNIEL was good but Gordeau was so dumb :| idk how the game's progressed since launch but back there grand finals devolved into Gordeau mirror matches and I saw NLBC a few weeks ago and the UNIST grand final was also a Gordeau mirror lol
UNICLR was balanced?
@@ikagura Idk i never played it
@@PirateZ1 If you own UNIST you don't have cl-r as a free update?
@@ikagura Not sure I lost my ps3
@@PirateZ1 F
Anime games are really super fun but getting juggled for 30s gets tiresome imo, will def try this game when it comed out
Martin M uniel is closer to SF than other anime fighters
It's not like SF. Check our last video for games like SF.
I never figured out why people translate the name Furansupan. It's not like it makes sense anyway, and we don't say "Japan first software". Although I do admit French Bread is "Catchier", but it still doesn't make sense.
They translate it themselves, right under the big フランスパン logo, "Soft Circle French Bread."
Holy crap how did I miss that for so long lol. It still doesn't make sense though.
@@Ali-fs7ze
フランス = France
パン = Bread
Therefore, フランスパン = French Bread
Not rocket science my man.
I think MBAA was cluttered with too many mechanics and I never made sense of them, even to this day. And its presentation is too minimalistic: music, chara-design, stages, etc. I think their subsequent games made a good thing about streamlining mechanics, but I still find the Under Night series to have a too minimalistic presentation. Subdued music, subdued chara-design, y'know. None of them catch my eyes besides some exceptions. I'm not asking to have ArcSys levels of different wacky chara-designs (that's honestly way too much for me), but I want them to shake their formula a little.
If you want a memorable theme then search on youtube "Nanase theme Bikehorn"
Nice one haha. But for real, I actually like Merkava's theme and I made a rule about only allowing this theme whenever I play with friends.
the designs are simple and not memorable; all the characters in all of these games have to be the blandest in recent memory. the sound effects have no oomph and the music is totally forgettable
gonna have to hard disagree here, the music got stuck in my head for days and is some of the best I've heard recently and while I'm not a fan of all the character designs most of them are really solid & stick out in my memory even though haven't been playing the game that much recently.
>music is forgettable
Get the fuck out of here. Under Night literally has one of the all time greatest OSTs on fighting game history.
Characters aren’t forgettable but they fall into annoying chuuni cliches sometimes. Personally, I feel the simplicity works in the games advantages, so much anime stuff nowadays is horrendously overdesigned. Also... Melty and UNI have great OSTs, a good chunk of MB songs managed to get stuck in my head for years so that’s something lol
Takashi Takeuchi and Hirokazu Koyama (Mahoyo illustrator) are among the best illustrators in this space. Type-Moon is better than Arc System Works character designer/s. Atlus Art Team is also better than Arc System Works.
Melty Blood Type Lumina is already proving your comment wrong. Fighting games were never about cinematic 2.5D jank that GG Xrd turned into and then all license crap like DBFZ and GBFVS. It feels so slow and not as smooth as GG AC+R. They just want it to look visually stunning which takes away the gameplay for me. I dislike the cinematic element.