Well done video that basically mirrors my experiences thus far. What I find most encouraging is how much better adapted lenses work on the a7R3 vs the a7R2 (and even the a6500). That tells me a lot of the improvements come down to advances in Sony's focus system.
Dustin Abbott I agree. I have both the A7S2 and R2 and I have no trouble using legacy APS glass on the R2, since it has sensor pixels to burn. But I only use FF with the S2.
Thank you for putting the truth on the table. The tests I've done on the a9 arrived at very similar to the results with both the Metabones and Commlite adapter shown in this video. You've nailed it Chris!
Im still on the fence, on moving from Nikon. The Sony glass is so expensive. There is the sigma glass coming but just primes for now. Are you moving from cannon?
moo yeah I've considered it but I don't need that many mega pixels. I'm shooting the d610 at the moment. Hoping for a d760 or d650 with d850s autofocus system but I've been waiting a while now. This Sony is very tempting.
Joseph Molloy I’m also moving from Nikon. I’m still trying to decide what I want to do.. I may go for the Nikon adapter (not too worried about performance. Anything is going to be better than my current body). But yeah it’s a shame that Sony glass is so pricey. I’m think I may just start a set of Sigmas
Sony adapters to crop bodies do also work extremely well with the A6300 and A6500. I'd honestly say that aside from an A7II at those crazy prices these days, the A6300+Metabones+Canon combo is the best balance between quality glass/consistent performance and cheap prices for a mirrorless system today.
I've decided to give you my business for the last two lenses I bought simply because of the effort you put on these videos. It would be easier to buy locally but I think we need to reward what you've been doing and I appreciate that you are open to test different things. I also need to mention that I've had top grade service with my problematic pentax d fa 70-200mm lens I had to return. I was offered a shipping refund for a doa lens focusing system and I didn't even had to ask for it. Obviously my next purchase was placed to you. The online assistance we receive when purchasing and also for the support is fantastic. Keep coming the video and I will make sure to send you my business. A++++++ would buy again :)
I hope you guys will keep up with this, and keep us up to date. As a Nikon shooter with both a crop (D7100) and full-frame body (D810) I see two VERY important options that a great adapter would provide... especially for the Sony system. First, of course, some people could switch to Sony bodies, without the fear of costing a fortune in new glass. But just as important, for me... I'd consider trading in my crop sensor camera for a Sony A7 III, for example, while keeping my D810. Then I'd have a real opportunity to test Sony, and be more sure about it, before jumping ship entirely. I've been waiting, the same as many others, for Nikon to come out with their full-frame mirrorless system, but it's still not clear when this might happen. Thanks for all the work, guys!
This is my exact same situation. I have a D7100 and a D800. I have rented (3) separate Sony bodies (A6400, A7II and A7Riii) along with Nikon Z6 (hated it's low light capability); however, I LOVE the functions of the A7RIII and plan on purchasing it...however...I have both Nikon and most exclusively now, Tamron G2 lens (85 1.8, 24-70 2.8 and 70-200 2.8 Gen 2). LOTS of $$ invested in lens. I will keep my D800-regardless!! Now, I wish to keep and use all the functions of my Tamron lens for my Nikon on the Sony A7RIII body. Just need a good/reliable adapter that will adjust aperture, shutter, ISO, etc. functions on my G2 lens, minimally. Guess I'll have to keep looking and waiting. I do NOT need it for any video purposes...strictly portraiture use.
Thanks for making this video guys! Ita probably the best adaptet comparison I've seen. I'm impressed how much adpaters have progressed in just a few years.
How is AF supposed to work with the MC-11 and Canon glass on video mode? Is there a setting that allows the camera to keep track and pull focus while shooting? I'm new to Sony cameras and I am trying to understand the use of autofocus on movie mode.
Chris, you should have done the AF while recording video. The AF speed differs while recording than while no card in the camera and not recording. (more CPU power available for AF) .
The best in adapters guys you haven't mentioned is the Zhongyi Turbo11 focal reducer. Of course it's manual focus and not electronically connected...but the price and the quality is simply right on...
Great review. Large heavy lenses have a tripod lens foot. I've learned that weight forward lenses require larger ball heads with or without a lens foot on the adapter.
I have cut the lump off the front of my COMMLITE ENF-E1 and can mount the Tamron 24-70 OK. Go carefully with a Dremel disc and stop frequently to let it cool.
I'm using the Metabones IV Canon EF - Sony E on a Sony A7R II with Canon lenses: what does make the eye-AF work on the new Sony A7R III that is missing on the A7R II? I ask because the Sigma MC-11 adapter *does* allow eye-AF with Sigma lenses on my Sony A7R II. Why is that?
Also MC-11 has some limitations in phase detect points coverage. At least mine has. The Metabones does not have that. Maybe it is because of my 35 1.4 Art. I have not tried the 85 1.4 Art. Also I am very curious about the FE-Nikon adapter. Can you test it more :) with more lenses. This will be HUGE about Nikon shooters with a B cam from Sony or just wondering about a switch...
Hey Guys, Thank you for the video. A few quick questions. 1) How do Tamron EF lenses fare? 2) How do long zooms fare? 70-200, 100-400? 3) Would you recommend the fotodiox adapter? The one with the built in ND filter
What mode did you use on the Metabones. This is important to know, green or advanced, can make a big difference. Also did you use flexible spot? I’ve seen many videos showing Canon + metabones tacking runners very well, depending on the lens. 85 f/1.4L IS should have done much better.
Great video. Thank you for your hard work. I would like to mention that the longer the lens, the more difficult it becomes for these adapters to focus quickly. There are a lot of wildlife/bird photographers out there with long lenses over 400mm that are anxiously awaiting improved accuracy and acquisition. Adapters and newer Sony bodies have come a long way, but IMO the final fronteer to conquer is long lens combinations. I frequently use the Canon 600 f/4 II as well as the Sigma 150-600 (Canon mount - Contemporary). I recently tested these lenses at 600mm and 840mm with the A7R3 and both the Metabones and MC-11 adapters work, but not to perfection. Good enough for still or slow moving subjects but not for lightning fast birds-in-flight. As you mention, they have come a long way over time, but not completely there yet. It would be great to see Sigma come out with a 150-600 native lens for Sony mirrorless. That would be an incredible combination. BTW, the Sigma MC-11 with the Sigma shorter lenses work very well for video too.
The Fringer EF-FX Pro adapter AF in AF-S mode on the Fuji [X-T2] is surprisingly fast. It, too, has not tripod mount (stupid!), but it does appear to be as fast as the Fuji 90mm F2 or the 50mm F2.
I was looking at a kamera dealer's website here in Sweden as they had a great price on the Ultra model. However, they recommended that if one was going to use a Metabones product with a Panasonic G series camera, the Ultra 0.71 model would not perform well. They recommended the Ultra XL 0.64 instead. For what technical reasons would that be the case? I've never seen anyone make that determination
I have a few Canon lenses (the 85 f/1.8 and 50 f/1.4), Sigma (their 24-105 f/4 and 150-600 Contemporary), AND Tamron (the 70-200 f/2.8 VC G2 and 15-30 f/2.8). I pre-ordered the a7III and plan on picking up the Sigma MC-11, but is there a chance the Metabones would be a better all-around choice for lenses from these three companies?
.i want to know if i can use this lea3 on my sony A Mount lenses on the Sony a7/3 E mount and maintain 100% of it's features?, or must i use the lea4.......the Sony cameras i use are a99/2, a99, a77/2 and a77 ? What Sony adopter will give me 100% of the lenses and cameras features ?
I have the mc-11 on my Sony but I keep a commlite adapter as well simply because of the tripod mount collar for the bigger heavier lenses. It's really a mystery why Sigma didn't include that option on their adapter especially considering their lenses tend to be massive..
Thanks for that. I have a Metabones which I have used with my Olympus OEM 1 Mk11. When I first tried it out it worked well with my Tamron 150-600mm but now it shows a black screen! I think I'll give it another go and make sure I'm only geared for single shooting. The Metabones works well with other Canon mount lenses but then they aren't used for bird shooting...
Hi, Chris. I have the a6000 and I bought the Yongnuo adapter for my Canon glass. Mostly I wanted to use my Canon nifty fifty for night shooting. Speed was not really essential, but it turned out that I must have a factory lemon lens. It is useless under f4, even on my 5D Mark iv. I saw that the Camera Store now sells the Yongnuo 50mm so I bought it. Works great on my Canon, but the Yongnuo adapter doesn’t recognize it. Strictly manual focus shoot wide open. Yongnuo adapter works with all my Canon & Tamron lenses, but can’t recognize Yongnuo. Weird.
What about using it on the A7 ii . It sounds like such a headache ? I'm thinking of just buying a used Canon 5D mark ii . Instead of Sony A7ii . Seems like less of technical headache and less investment
Hope I can add something of interest to your experiences. I have a Canon Sl2 and bought a Lumix G7 to see what that world looks like from a Photography point of view. I bought a CommLite adapter to my G7. I tried to take my Sigma 18-400mm from the SL2 to the G7 and found that the electronics translated Av and Tv but NO AF capability. I then bought a Tamron 18-400mm and was surprised that with the same adapter on the G7 - everything worked fine including the AF. I have no idea why the Sigma wouldn't work but it might be plastic vs. metal?
A7ii with mc-11, no eye af with any of my 5 canon L lenses. Latest firmware on camera and adapter. It says lens not supported. I’ve set custom function already.
Finally, a video AF test done with a subject that knows exactly how to do a torture test on a continuous AF system. Not just "My camera's really good at this, so I'm going to show it beating a worse camera at this specific thing"
Please test the commlite high speed adapter in CDAF mode on Canon and Tamron/Sigma glass. There's various tests on an A7r I with it on Canon branded glass and its quite fast. Other reviews say its meh, but they only used PDAF.
Hi, could you please review the Viltrox EF-E mark II speedbooster? This is a cheap product for adapting Canon EF full frame lenses to Sony crop bodies, and it has had a great feedback from the web. Unfortunately until now there's no enough information about the autofocus performance using this adapter.
Sigma just announced a bunch of ART lenses in the FE mount so there's also that. The A9 will actually track with adapted lenses at 10FPS, which is also something to consider. But for the most part if you need AF-C, go native. However, for AF-S, even the Mark II PDAF bodies will work fine. I have been shooting adapted glass on my A7II for almost 2 years and it's been great.
Ive been waiting to get a mirrorless cam for quite awhile now.. I just cant pick anything under 650$.. They all seem to be good at one thing and fail at another.. or perhaps im just wrong. Any ideas on what to buy? Id love 4k video (or some really good 1080p), and 20-24 MP quality for stills. Im a newby obviously, but no matter how much i read about it, i still cant decide on my own. Id love some help. / Thanks in advance!
I am feeling stuck somehow on this Nikon-Track. I am really hoping their Fullframe DSLM will rock and will be affordable for usual people. I love my Nikon D750 but all those minor flaws really suck and i love the advantages even my small OM-D E-M10II offers over the DSLR. Switching to Sony with all my Nikon glass seems to be no option
Could you guys do a video testing Canon DPAF in video now that Sigma released new firmware for some of their Art lenses, as many forum users report it fixes the long-standing issues AF with them in live view. Would be a really useful thing to know, e.g., 18-35 f/1.8 on 5D4 video.
Interestingly you didn't test the Sony adapters on the Sony body. I mean laea3 with Sony ssm lens for instance. But more interestingly I think that commlite should do a new Sony A to emount adapter. Last but not least you didn't explain in your tests if you were un PDAF or in CDAF and what features of the camera were available or not I'm each of the different modes.
I am fast forwarding but I didnt see Viltrox EF-M2 adapter. Can you guys please check it out? Its like $200 on Ebay and other guys says that its metabones-like IQ.
Which adapter works with EF-S lenses on the A6000? I heard that the commlite is decent but how is focus speed and eye af? I have Canon 50mm 1.8, 10-18mm and Sigma 70-300mm
There are af-adapters für Fuji (i.e. Fringer). They are quite new and i think, they need some time, gut i would love seeing something about them. Maybee you can do a followup some time later...
Can I use sigma 30/1.4 lens with M50 using an EF M to EOS canon mount converter. I am able to do it. So wanted to know if I have to buy some other adapter
Note that the fps limit is more due to the Metabones and Sigma (using non-Global Vision lenses) emulating the LA-EA3 adapter, which has an AF tracking limit of 3fps. Since the MC-11 emulates native lenses with Sigma's Global Vision lenses, that limit is removed. Only the A9 will work with the LA-EA3 above 3fps, and only with the recent firmware update that can only be installed through the A9. Also, the MC-11 will only AF in video with Global Vision lenses. Everything else is MF. Metabones, on the other hand, will video AF anything in Advanced Mode.
I'm thinking about getting the A7iii to replace my canon c100 mkii. I've only got one "expensive" canon lens, the 24-105 f4. I'm just not using the c100 to it's fullest and I rather get something that can track my 2 year old daughter for good photos and pretty good video. I do simple video shoots at work, but the a7iii could definitely cover that. My question is: Should I sell the c100 to get an A7iii and a metabones for the 25-105, OR sell the c100 & the 24-105 to get an A7iii with a comparable native lens?
Can someone tell me if the model mb-ef-e-bm4 supports IBIS canon lens IS and IBIS together? Nobody seems to know I know that the MB-EF-E-BT5 and the MB-EF-E-BT4 does it. But wanted to know if the mb-ef-e-bm4 works also together at the same time. Using the same firmware as the two newer ones?
I have an A7II and have heard that the Commlite Canon to E does not Auto Focus on the A7II. Can you shed some light on this? Also does the Commlite Nikon to E you tested here work with the A7II or just the A7III? Thanks
Great video, thank you. Do you know if the sigma 150 600 Contemporary canon mount works fine with sigma mc11 on sony a7r2? Works better with the comlite? Or the vello aito adapter?
BTW: There is now a fully working Canon adapter from fringer available for Fuji X mount. I don't have one but it is seems to work really good for a first release and it the update support seems to be very good too. Nikon adapters are in the works by several manufacturers as well.
Okay, this - adapters not working well with video - leaves me with a big problem. I had planned on venturing back into the Sony world with the A7iii but still keep my very expensive L lenses. The problem stems from the fact that I want to use that setup for video. I have the Canon 5dsr along with the holy trinity of L lenses for studio, landscaping and macro work. I only have my 5dmkiii for video which doesn't work for me because of an eye issue (loss of vision) I NEED autofocus for video. What are my options besides forking over another shit tonne of CAD for lenses? Do I give up on the idea and stick with a bulky Canon?
It would have been nice to see the Sony adapters for A-mount lenses in here. Sony limits continuous focusing with all adapters to the "Lo" drive setting.
I've also tested the Sigma MC11 can focus continuously very well in video with Sigma glass, I believe that's the only combo that works for video. I don't think metabones can do video AFC consistently with any lenses in might be wrong!!
I have the Commlite v05 and Sony A5600.. well.. it works.. but not suitable for any demanding photography project and don't maintain focusing in continuous shooting unless you used the slow option or it will focus on the first frame only.
Please review the Viltrox EF-M2 adapter for EF mount lenses to micro 4/3 cameras. There's a lot of hype for these adapters and they're getting sold out everywhere but almost all the vids are with a GH-5 and 18-35/1.8. Some other camera/lens combinations would be nice too.
I have been using the Commlite for my Canon glass on my A6000 and A7Rii. I recently picked up the MC11 along with the Sigma 150-600 Contemporary. I've updated the lenses adapters, cameras and the USB dock. when comparing the two adapters with my Canon 24-105MK1 I found that when using the Sigma MC11 the A7Rii would not auto-stabilize and grayed out the option, but when using the Commlite in the exact same manor I was able to use auto-detect IBS with it. As an aside I am very disappointed in the fact that the apps are going away as I do mainly landscape. The Smooth Reflections and time lapse apps are invaluable to me. I hope that they are also keeping the remote control app as well. I will not be upgrading from the A7Rii to the new Mkiii due to this.
Since Sigma claims there new emount lenses will have more focusing ability than with the mc-11 adapter. Even though they basically put an mc11 permanently on the new lenses. I am wondering if Sigma will be able to do a firmware update for the mc-11 so it performs as good as there new Sigma fe mount glass.
The MC-11 has to convert the signals from the Sony camera to either Sigma SA or Canon EOS signals to actually get the lens to function. This extra step may not seem like much but my understanding is that it is a bottleneck. By natively programing the lens to Sony's specifications it is going to communicate faster with the camera. I use an mc-11 extensively, and I find it totally adequate for most purposes, however there is no reason their new e-mount versions of their lenses should not out-perform the adapted lenses in terms of speed/responsoveness
Just speculation: -Sigma should be able to update the mc-11, but it depends if the agreement with Sony allows them to do so. -Also updating just the adapter would benefit Sony much more than it would Sigma as they would gain only minor revenue from the adapter sales but potentially lose lens sales due to people using/keeping canon lenses instead.
Game TL Well sigma doesn't make any m43rds adapters. I would love it if Sigma made a regular adapter, a speed booster and a 1.4x adapter for M43rds in there SA mount to M43rds. Sigma is a member of the four thirds community, has the full working knowledge of M43rds, yet does not release any adapters. This in my mind would not only push the sales of sigma lenses but also the sales of Quantro cameras. Because why not test it if you already have the glass.
Which camera in your opinion (including and mostly Jordan) will work better with Tamron 150-600mm lens: - sony A7iii or GH5/G9 for video, meaning some auto functions are available, mostly focus. And recomendations on adapter for such set up, and with additional 1.4 x or 2x converter. Thank you.
Love the video but can you tell us the focus settings you used with the metabones and SOny. Did i you use green or advanced mode, and on the Sony did you use flexible spot or something else.
Sony was the first to produce a modern mirrorless camera with APS-C sensor in 2010 Sony NEX-3 and NEX-5 and the first with a full frame sensor in 2013 a7 and a7R. An unexpected success of the Sony mirrorless cameras is their ability to support nearly all autofocus lenses from major manufacturers with native and third party adapters due to their short flange distance which is even shorter than that of usually smaller mirrorless micro four-thirds cameras. The metabones speed booster is a really useful adapter because it does more than adapt deferent lens mounts. A serious omission is the native Sony LA-EA4 LensAdapter-EmountAmount which is compatible with nearly all autofocus a-mount lenses since the Minolta film era.
I am using a Viltrox speed booster canon ef- M43 mount, a 50mm 1.8 and sigma 75-300, I am experiencing issues with autofocus, is this camera related (Panasonic gx80) is it firmware related? Please can anyone shed any light please?
hey guys, thanks for the video. I am looking to find an adaptor for my 14mm Sigma (Nikon mount), to use on my recently purchased Sony A7R2. Any recommendations? Thanks
I have the Sigma MC-11 that I use on my Sony a6300 and my Sony A7R2. Eye auto focus works fine with my Sigma lenses but, How are you getting it to work with the Canon lenses? I have updated the firmware of the adapter but when I try to use eye auto focus with my Canon lenses it says it's not available with the lens I am using. Does it only work with newer Canon lenses?
Are there any options for Pentax/K-mount lenses (that keep AFocus features)??? I love shooting with my K-1, and love the IQuality that comes from my lineup of lenses. It really feels like a complete kit (can't think of a range or situation it can't handle). I can post what lenses I have, if interested. Very tempted to get a Sony a7iii, but not if that means I need to invest in complete new glass. I saw something about using a TechArt Pro + Leica adapter??
Thank you for doing this comparison. I've been using the sigma lenses with mc11 and been really happy with the performance. Haven't really felt a need to swap the sigma ef-lenses for native sony ones because they perform well.
hi, i tested this adapter with Sony A9 and Nikon 200-500 and found these issues: 1. There seem to be shortage of voltage to the adapter. If i turn off the camera, turn it back on, the lens is not working. I have to detach the lens, put it back then it will power the adapter again. Seem like a reboot. This mean, you CAN NOT turn off your camera while waiting for action ---> drain out battery faster 2. No Zone focusing. 3. Relate to #1, when put back the lens, you have to put it back at 200m mark. Let say you're shooting at 500mm, detach, reattach and you still leave it at 500mm, nothing work. Turn it to 200mm, detach, reattach, bammn..everything is back to normal. is there anything commlite can do to improve?
I have a sony a6500 and i am looking to use a 300mm lens,as i need the zoom, for sports photography , such as the tamron 16-300. What would you suggest as a adaptor/lense that will fit my camera and offer performance?
Excellent performance by Jordan. Almost on-par with the Spike Jonze dance ads. This was a lot of work for a video you'll have to re do in 6 months. Cheers.
Just bought the Sony A7sii and im trying to get my Canon 16-35 EF to work using the metabones, my continuous AF option is not highlighted for me to select, any idea?
You should make a 10 hour video of Jordan jumping and sliding and peek-a-booing.
I was disappointed to see him running in the snow, I was hoping for another ice skating demonstration.
So what you're saying is that you want to be Jordan's baby?
Loool
Lol!
Well done video that basically mirrors my experiences thus far. What I find most encouraging is how much better adapted lenses work on the a7R3 vs the a7R2 (and even the a6500). That tells me a lot of the improvements come down to advances in Sony's focus system.
Dustin Abbott I agree. I have both the A7S2 and R2 and I have no trouble using legacy APS glass on the R2, since it has sensor pixels to burn. But I only use FF with the S2.
Metabones have come a long way on this version. You guys made that classroom look pretty good ;-)
Thank you for putting the truth on the table. The tests I've done on the a9 arrived at very similar to the results with both the Metabones and Commlite adapter shown in this video. You've nailed it Chris!
Shang-Hsien Yang are you able to make the eye AF work with the metabones? I'm isn't a9 with mc11 but no eye AF so far.
Are you able to use Nikon d lenses with this and auto focus?
Can't wait to get my hands on my first mirror-less (A7III)!
Im still on the fence, on moving from Nikon. The Sony glass is so expensive. There is the sigma glass coming but just primes for now. Are you moving from cannon?
moo yeah I've considered it but I don't need that many mega pixels. I'm shooting the d610 at the moment. Hoping for a d760 or d650 with d850s autofocus system but I've been waiting a while now. This Sony is very tempting.
But the D850 is $1300 more. That's a Sony/Zeiss Planar T FE 50mm f/1.4 ZA Lens.
Try Fuji, far better glass cheaper.
Joseph Molloy I’m also moving from Nikon. I’m still trying to decide what I want to do.. I may go for the Nikon adapter (not too worried about performance. Anything is going to be better than my current body). But yeah it’s a shame that Sony glass is so pricey. I’m think I may just start a set of Sigmas
Sony adapters to crop bodies do also work extremely well with the A6300 and A6500. I'd honestly say that aside from an A7II at those crazy prices these days, the A6300+Metabones+Canon combo is the best balance between quality glass/consistent performance and cheap prices for a mirrorless system today.
Sergio G does the a7ii perform well with an adapter?
How is this combo working for video?
dudeeeeee Jordan's "peek a boo" skill is unreal. much respect.
I've decided to give you my business for the last two lenses I bought simply because of the effort you put on these videos. It would be easier to buy locally but I think we need to reward what you've been doing and I appreciate that you are open to test different things.
I also need to mention that I've had top grade service with my problematic pentax d fa 70-200mm lens I had to return. I was offered a shipping refund for a doa lens focusing system and I didn't even had to ask for it. Obviously my next purchase was placed to you. The online assistance we receive when purchasing and also for the support is fantastic.
Keep coming the video and I will make sure to send you my business.
A++++++ would buy again :)
Best adapters summary video on the internet I found up to now!
I hope you guys will keep up with this, and keep us up to date. As a Nikon shooter with both a crop (D7100) and full-frame body (D810) I see two VERY important options that a great adapter would provide... especially for the Sony system. First, of course, some people could switch to Sony bodies, without the fear of costing a fortune in new glass. But just as important, for me... I'd consider trading in my crop sensor camera for a Sony A7 III, for example, while keeping my D810. Then I'd have a real opportunity to test Sony, and be more sure about it, before jumping ship entirely. I've been waiting, the same as many others, for Nikon to come out with their full-frame mirrorless system, but it's still not clear when this might happen. Thanks for all the work, guys!
This is my exact same situation. I have a D7100 and a D800. I have rented (3) separate Sony bodies (A6400, A7II and A7Riii) along with Nikon Z6 (hated it's low light capability); however, I LOVE the functions of the A7RIII and plan on purchasing it...however...I have both Nikon and most exclusively now, Tamron G2 lens (85 1.8, 24-70 2.8 and 70-200 2.8 Gen 2). LOTS of $$ invested in lens. I will keep my D800-regardless!! Now, I wish to keep and use all the functions of my Tamron lens for my Nikon on the Sony A7RIII body. Just need a good/reliable adapter that will adjust aperture, shutter, ISO, etc. functions on my G2 lens, minimally. Guess I'll have to keep looking and waiting. I do NOT need it for any video purposes...strictly portraiture use.
Thanks for making this video guys! Ita probably the best adaptet comparison I've seen. I'm impressed how much adpaters have progressed in just a few years.
How is AF supposed to work with the MC-11 and Canon glass on video mode?
Is there a setting that allows the camera to keep track and pull focus while shooting? I'm new to Sony cameras and I am trying to understand the use of autofocus on movie mode.
Chris, you should have done the AF while recording video. The AF speed differs while recording than while no card in the camera and not recording. (more CPU power available for AF) .
The best in adapters guys you haven't mentioned is the Zhongyi Turbo11 focal reducer. Of course it's manual focus and not electronically connected...but the price and the quality is simply right on...
To clarify, is the sigma lens referred to at 13:13 a Sigma EF mount lens or a Sigma own SA mount lens?
Great review. Large heavy lenses have a tripod lens foot. I've learned that weight forward lenses require larger ball heads with or without a lens foot on the adapter.
If Jordan wants to pounce on you from 10 feet away, there's nothing you can do to stop it.
With that lumbering, unwavering, sense of inevitably, hustle through the snow!
instablaster...
Absolutely the best adapter test I have watched
I have cut the lump off the front of my COMMLITE ENF-E1 and can mount the Tamron 24-70 OK. Go carefully with a Dremel disc and stop frequently to let it cool.
I'm using the Metabones IV Canon EF - Sony E on a Sony A7R II with Canon lenses: what does make the eye-AF work on the new Sony A7R III that is missing on the A7R II? I ask because the Sigma MC-11 adapter *does* allow eye-AF with Sigma lenses on my Sony A7R II. Why is that?
Also MC-11 has some limitations in phase detect points coverage. At least mine has. The Metabones does not have that. Maybe it is because of my 35 1.4 Art. I have not tried the 85 1.4 Art.
Also I am very curious about the FE-Nikon adapter. Can you test it more :) with more lenses. This will be HUGE about Nikon shooters with a B cam from Sony or just wondering about a switch...
Hey Guys,
Thank you for the video. A few quick questions.
1) How do Tamron EF lenses fare?
2) How do long zooms fare? 70-200, 100-400?
3) Would you recommend the fotodiox adapter? The one with the built in ND filter
What mode did you use on the Metabones. This is important to know, green or advanced, can make a big difference. Also did you use flexible spot? I’ve seen many videos showing Canon + metabones tacking runners very well, depending on the lens. 85 f/1.4L IS should have done much better.
Great video. Thank you for your hard work. I would like to mention that the longer the lens, the more difficult it becomes for these adapters to focus quickly. There are a lot of wildlife/bird photographers out there with long lenses over 400mm that are anxiously awaiting improved accuracy and acquisition. Adapters and newer Sony bodies have come a long way, but IMO the final fronteer to conquer is long lens combinations.
I frequently use the Canon 600 f/4 II as well as the Sigma 150-600 (Canon mount - Contemporary). I recently tested these lenses at 600mm and 840mm with the A7R3 and both the Metabones and MC-11 adapters work, but not to perfection. Good enough for still or slow moving subjects but not for lightning fast birds-in-flight. As you mention, they have come a long way over time, but not completely there yet. It would be great to see Sigma come out with a 150-600 native lens for Sony mirrorless. That would be an incredible combination. BTW, the Sigma MC-11 with the Sigma shorter lenses work very well for video too.
Hello I'm using a Mark II metabones with a sony a6500 and a Canon 70-300mm IS USM lens. But the auto focus is not working. Can you help me?
Great test - I see it as single shot focus is pretty good now.. it's really the AFC tracking that is different.. which was great to see in this test!
The Fringer EF-FX Pro adapter AF in AF-S mode on the Fuji [X-T2] is surprisingly fast. It, too, has not tripod mount (stupid!), but it does appear to be as fast as the Fuji 90mm F2 or the 50mm F2.
I was looking at a kamera dealer's website here in Sweden as they had a great price on the Ultra model. However, they recommended that if one was going to use a Metabones product with a Panasonic G series camera, the Ultra 0.71 model would not perform well. They recommended the Ultra XL 0.64 instead.
For what technical reasons would that be the case?
I've never seen anyone make that determination
What about the MC-11 AF in video? :) It works...
I have a few Canon lenses (the 85 f/1.8 and 50 f/1.4), Sigma (their 24-105 f/4 and 150-600 Contemporary), AND Tamron (the 70-200 f/2.8 VC G2 and 15-30 f/2.8). I pre-ordered the a7III and plan on picking up the Sigma MC-11, but is there a chance the Metabones would be a better all-around choice for lenses from these three companies?
.i want to know if i can use this lea3 on my sony A Mount lenses on the Sony a7/3 E mount and maintain 100% of it's features?, or must i use the lea4.......the Sony cameras i use are a99/2, a99, a77/2 and a77 ? What Sony adopter will give me 100% of the lenses and cameras features ?
I have the mc-11 on my Sony but I keep a commlite adapter as well simply because of the tripod mount collar for the bigger heavier lenses. It's really a mystery why Sigma didn't include that option on their adapter especially considering their lenses tend to be massive..
Thanks for that. I have a Metabones which I have used with my Olympus OEM 1 Mk11. When I first tried it out it worked well with my Tamron 150-600mm but now it shows a black screen! I think I'll give it another go and make sure I'm only geared for single shooting. The Metabones works well with other Canon mount lenses but then they aren't used for bird shooting...
Hi, Chris. I have the a6000 and I bought the Yongnuo adapter for my Canon glass. Mostly I wanted to use my Canon nifty fifty for night shooting. Speed was not really essential, but it turned out that I must have a factory lemon lens. It is useless under f4, even on my 5D Mark iv. I saw that the Camera Store now sells the Yongnuo 50mm so I bought it. Works great on my Canon, but the Yongnuo adapter doesn’t recognize it. Strictly manual focus shoot wide open. Yongnuo adapter works with all my Canon & Tamron lenses, but can’t recognize Yongnuo. Weird.
What about using it on the A7 ii . It sounds like such a headache ? I'm thinking of just buying a used Canon 5D mark ii . Instead of Sony A7ii . Seems like less of technical headache and less investment
What about the new Viltrox AF adapter for Nikon glass on Sony bodies?
Hope I can add something of interest to your experiences. I have a Canon Sl2 and bought a Lumix G7 to see what that world looks like from a Photography point of view. I bought a CommLite adapter to my G7. I tried to take my Sigma 18-400mm from the SL2 to the G7 and found that the electronics translated Av and Tv but NO AF capability. I then bought a Tamron 18-400mm and was surprised that with the same adapter on the G7 - everything worked fine including the AF. I have no idea why the Sigma wouldn't work but it might be plastic vs. metal?
A7ii with mc-11, no eye af with any of my 5 canon L lenses. Latest firmware on camera and adapter. It says lens not supported. I’ve set custom function already.
Finally, a video AF test done with a subject that knows exactly how to do a torture test on a continuous AF system. Not just "My camera's really good at this, so I'm going to show it beating a worse camera at this specific thing"
Please test the commlite high speed adapter in CDAF mode on Canon and Tamron/Sigma glass. There's various tests on an A7r I with it on Canon branded glass and its quite fast. Other reviews say its meh, but they only used PDAF.
Hi, could you please review the Viltrox EF-E mark II speedbooster? This is a cheap product for adapting Canon EF full frame lenses to Sony crop bodies, and it has had a great feedback from the web. Unfortunately until now there's no enough information about the autofocus performance using this adapter.
Thank you for braving the Canadian winter for science and photography!
Sigma just announced a bunch of ART lenses in the FE mount so there's also that. The A9 will actually track with adapted lenses at 10FPS, which is also something to consider. But for the most part if you need AF-C, go native. However, for AF-S, even the Mark II PDAF bodies will work fine. I have been shooting adapted glass on my A7II for almost 2 years and it's been great.
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Nikon's efforts so far haven't been great. I gather that the D850 focussing in Live View and video isn't good, so I wouldn't be holding my breath.
Ive been waiting to get a mirrorless cam for quite awhile now.. I just cant pick anything under 650$.. They all seem to be good at one thing and fail at another.. or perhaps im just wrong.
Any ideas on what to buy? Id love 4k video (or some really good 1080p), and 20-24 MP quality for stills. Im a newby obviously, but no matter how much i read about it, i still cant decide on my own. Id love some help. / Thanks in advance!
I am feeling stuck somehow on this Nikon-Track. I am really hoping their Fullframe DSLM will rock and will be affordable for usual people. I love my Nikon D750 but all those minor flaws really suck and i love the advantages even my small OM-D E-M10II offers over the DSLR. Switching to Sony with all my Nikon glass seems to be no option
Thanks a lot for this video and all the work. Definitely something I searched for a while!
Could you guys do a video testing Canon DPAF in video now that Sigma released new firmware for some of their Art lenses, as many forum users report it fixes the long-standing issues AF with them in live view. Would be a really useful thing to know, e.g., 18-35 f/1.8 on 5D4 video.
Interestingly you didn't test the Sony adapters on the Sony body. I mean laea3 with Sony ssm lens for instance. But more interestingly I think that commlite should do a new Sony A to emount adapter.
Last but not least you didn't explain in your tests if you were un PDAF or in CDAF and what features of the camera were available or not I'm each of the different modes.
I am fast forwarding but I didnt see Viltrox EF-M2 adapter. Can you guys please check it out? Its like $200 on Ebay and other guys says that its metabones-like IQ.
IQ? You mean the Viltrox speed booster?
Yes, EF-M2
Zalecane.pl they are still out of stock for a while I believe
What about Viltrox EF-Nex IV?
That's the first time I've heard that. Every people I know says the Viltrox's speedbooster is kinda shit
Wow thoses settings though, why not turn the shutter speed down and decrease the ido? what frame rate is this being filmed at?
Which adapter works with EF-S lenses on the A6000?
I heard that the commlite is decent but how is focus speed and eye af?
I have Canon 50mm 1.8, 10-18mm and Sigma 70-300mm
Hi Chris whats the best adopter now in 2023 ? Does it support IBIS and video continuous af ? Ef to e mount
There are af-adapters für Fuji (i.e. Fringer). They are quite new and i think, they need some time, gut i would love seeing something about them. Maybee you can do a followup some time later...
Can I use sigma 30/1.4 lens with M50 using an EF M to EOS canon mount converter. I am able to do it. So wanted to know if I have to buy some other adapter
Note that the fps limit is more due to the Metabones and Sigma (using non-Global Vision lenses) emulating the LA-EA3 adapter, which has an AF tracking limit of 3fps. Since the MC-11 emulates native lenses with Sigma's Global Vision lenses, that limit is removed. Only the A9 will work with the LA-EA3 above 3fps, and only with the recent firmware update that can only be installed through the A9.
Also, the MC-11 will only AF in video with Global Vision lenses. Everything else is MF. Metabones, on the other hand, will video AF anything in Advanced Mode.
I really wonder how the performance of the 150-600 or the canon 400mm would be on the A7R3 with the adapters...
I'm thinking about getting the A7iii to replace my canon c100 mkii. I've only got one "expensive" canon lens, the 24-105 f4. I'm just not using the c100 to it's fullest and I rather get something that can track my 2 year old daughter for good photos and pretty good video. I do simple video shoots at work, but the a7iii could definitely cover that. My question is: Should I sell the c100 to get an A7iii and a metabones for the 25-105, OR sell the c100 & the 24-105 to get an A7iii with a comparable native lens?
7:29, no image stabilization? Are you sure?
How well do they autofocus on Sony bodies when recording video???
Can someone tell me if the model mb-ef-e-bm4 supports IBIS canon lens IS and IBIS together? Nobody seems to know
I know that the MB-EF-E-BT5 and the MB-EF-E-BT4 does it. But wanted to know if the mb-ef-e-bm4 works also together
at the same time. Using the same firmware as the two newer ones?
I have an A7II and have heard that the Commlite Canon to E does not Auto Focus on the A7II. Can you shed some light on this? Also does the Commlite Nikon to E you tested here work with the A7II or just the A7III? Thanks
Great video, thank you. Do you know if the sigma 150 600 Contemporary canon mount works fine with sigma mc11 on sony a7r2? Works better with the comlite? Or the vello aito adapter?
BTW: There is now a fully working Canon adapter from fringer available for Fuji X mount. I don't have one but it is seems to work really good for a first release and it the update support seems to be very good too. Nikon adapters are in the works by several manufacturers as well.
We’d love to test it! A Sigma 18-35 on an X-H1 would be a deadly combination.
Jordan @ TCSTV
We’d love to test it! A Sigma 18-35 on an X-H1 would be a deadly combination.
Jordan @ TCSTV
Okay, this - adapters not working well with video - leaves me with a big problem. I had planned on venturing back into the Sony world with the A7iii but still keep my very expensive L lenses. The problem stems from the fact that I want to use that setup for video. I have the Canon 5dsr along with the holy trinity of L lenses for studio, landscaping and macro work. I only have my 5dmkiii for video which doesn't work for me because of an eye issue (loss of vision) I NEED autofocus for video. What are my options besides forking over another shit tonne of CAD for lenses? Do I give up on the idea and stick with a bulky Canon?
It would have been nice to see the Sony adapters for A-mount lenses in here. Sony limits continuous focusing with all adapters to the "Lo" drive setting.
Can you shoot in afc for video w canon to lenses and the mc11? For example 24mm stm 2.8 and the mc-11 for video?
I've also tested the Sigma MC11 can focus continuously very well in video with Sigma glass, I believe that's the only combo that works for video. I don't think metabones can do video AFC consistently with any lenses in might be wrong!!
I have the Commlite v05 and Sony A5600.. well.. it works.. but not suitable for any demanding photography project and don't maintain focusing in continuous shooting unless you used the slow option or it will focus on the first frame only.
we want to see canon EF-S on Sony with Commlite adapters
When will Sigma bring zoom telephoto lens to fe. Only non fe I use is sigma 100-400mm
Please review the Viltrox EF-M2 adapter for EF mount lenses to micro 4/3 cameras. There's a lot of hype for these adapters and they're getting sold out everywhere but almost all the vids are with a GH-5 and 18-35/1.8. Some other camera/lens combinations would be nice too.
is there a quality difference if your'e not interested in auto focus capabilities?
I have been using the Commlite for my Canon glass on my A6000 and A7Rii. I recently picked up the MC11 along with the Sigma 150-600 Contemporary. I've updated the lenses adapters, cameras and the USB dock. when comparing the two adapters with my Canon 24-105MK1 I found that when using the Sigma MC11 the A7Rii would not auto-stabilize and grayed out the option, but when using the Commlite in the exact same manor I was able to use auto-detect IBS with it. As an aside I am very disappointed in the fact that the apps are going away as I do mainly landscape. The Smooth Reflections and time lapse apps are invaluable to me. I hope that they are also keeping the remote control app as well. I will not be upgrading from the A7Rii to the new Mkiii due to this.
how bout sigma 85mm 1.4art NIKON mount will it work like nikon lens with the adapter?
No discussion of image quality though? None of them hurt the quality of the images of the adapted lenses?
Since Sigma claims there new emount lenses will have more focusing ability than with the mc-11 adapter. Even though they basically put an mc11 permanently on the new lenses. I am wondering if Sigma will be able to do a firmware update for the mc-11 so it performs as good as there new Sigma fe mount glass.
I guess the chances are we will never know if they can or cannot update MC-11 to have better AF tracking. They will most likely not update it
The MC-11 has to convert the signals from the Sony camera to either Sigma SA or Canon EOS signals to actually get the lens to function. This extra step may not seem like much but my understanding is that it is a bottleneck. By natively programing the lens to Sony's specifications it is going to communicate faster with the camera. I use an mc-11 extensively, and I find it totally adequate for most purposes, however there is no reason their new e-mount versions of their lenses should not out-perform the adapted lenses in terms of speed/responsoveness
Just speculation:
-Sigma should be able to update the mc-11, but it depends if the agreement with Sony allows them to do so.
-Also updating just the adapter would benefit Sony much more than it would Sigma as they would gain only minor revenue from the adapter sales but potentially lose lens sales due to people using/keeping canon lenses instead.
I have a Sony A7iii and a Lumix GH5. I’m looking to adapt my Sony E mount lenses to my MFT cameras...any recommendations?
Thanks!
Why doesnt Sigma have a 18-35mm f1.8 with built in Speed Booster for MFT?
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Well sigma doesn't make any m43rds adapters. I would love it if Sigma made a regular adapter, a speed booster and a 1.4x adapter for M43rds in there SA mount to M43rds. Sigma is a member of the four thirds community, has the full working knowledge of M43rds, yet does not release any adapters. This in my mind would not only push the sales of sigma lenses but also the sales of Quantro cameras. Because why not test it if you already have the glass.
Which camera in your opinion (including and mostly Jordan) will work better with Tamron 150-600mm lens: - sony A7iii or GH5/G9 for video, meaning some auto functions are available, mostly focus. And recomendations on adapter for such set up, and with additional 1.4 x or 2x converter. Thank you.
hey Chris,.. huge fan,.. i have a question, need help finding a speed booster for canon 80D and 50M,.. can you help me find it,..thanks Chris
What about the Leica SL and the Noveflex
Did you update firmware on the Olympus to version 2.0? I saw a huge improvement after upgrading in C-AF
Love the video but can you tell us the focus settings you used with the metabones and SOny. Did i you use green or advanced mode, and on the Sony did you use flexible spot or something else.
Sony was the first to produce a modern mirrorless camera with APS-C sensor in 2010 Sony NEX-3 and NEX-5 and the first with a full frame sensor in 2013 a7 and a7R.
An unexpected success of the Sony mirrorless cameras is their ability to support nearly all autofocus lenses from major manufacturers with native and third party adapters due to their short flange distance which is even shorter than that of usually smaller mirrorless micro four-thirds cameras.
The metabones speed booster is a really useful adapter because it does more than adapt deferent lens mounts.
A serious omission is the native Sony LA-EA4 LensAdapter-EmountAmount which is compatible with nearly all autofocus a-mount lenses since the Minolta film era.
What do you think of the Sigma Art FE mount announcement? Some sources are saying they'll have a rubber gasket on the mount.
Does it work with video too? I mean, in the a6300...
I am using a Viltrox speed booster canon ef- M43 mount, a 50mm 1.8 and sigma 75-300, I am experiencing issues with autofocus, is this camera related (Panasonic gx80) is it firmware related? Please can anyone shed any light please?
But what about backlit and limited light situations???
Can you review the LAEA4 Adapter with the a7III? I want to know if i should abandon all my a-mount lens. I currently use it on the original a7
hey guys, thanks for the video. I am looking to find an adaptor for my 14mm Sigma (Nikon mount), to use on my recently purchased Sony A7R2. Any recommendations? Thanks
I have the Sigma MC-11 that I use on my Sony a6300 and my Sony A7R2. Eye auto focus works fine with my Sigma lenses but, How are you getting it to work with the Canon lenses? I have updated the firmware of the adapter but when I try to use eye auto focus with my Canon lenses it says it's not available with the lens I am using. Does it only work with newer Canon lenses?
Be interesting how the new sigma E-mount lens work vs native Sony equivalents and vs canon sigma and mc11 combo
Are there any options for Pentax/K-mount lenses (that keep AFocus features)??? I love shooting with my K-1, and love the IQuality that comes from my lineup of lenses. It really feels like a complete kit (can't think of a range or situation it can't handle). I can post what lenses I have, if interested. Very tempted to get a Sony a7iii, but not if that means I need to invest in complete new glass. I saw something about using a TechArt Pro + Leica adapter??
Thank you for doing this comparison. I've been using the sigma lenses with mc11 and been really happy with the performance. Haven't really felt a need to swap the sigma ef-lenses for native sony ones because they perform well.
The lens you tested are now available from Sony, I would have like to see you test lens not available like a 400 or 600 prime
hi, i tested this adapter with Sony A9 and Nikon 200-500 and found these issues:
1. There seem to be shortage of voltage to the adapter. If i turn off the camera, turn it back on, the lens is not working. I have to detach the lens, put it back then it will power the adapter again. Seem like a reboot. This mean, you CAN NOT turn off your camera while waiting for action ---> drain out battery faster
2. No Zone focusing.
3. Relate to #1, when put back the lens, you have to put it back at 200m mark. Let say you're shooting at 500mm, detach, reattach and you still leave it at 500mm, nothing work. Turn it to 200mm, detach, reattach, bammn..everything is back to normal.
is there anything commlite can do to improve?
I have a sony a6500 and i am looking to use a 300mm lens,as i need the zoom, for sports photography , such as the tamron 16-300. What would you suggest as a adaptor/lense that will fit my camera and offer performance?
Excellent performance by Jordan. Almost on-par with the Spike Jonze dance ads.
This was a lot of work for a video you'll have to re do in 6 months. Cheers.
Just bought the Sony A7sii and im trying to get my Canon 16-35 EF to work using the metabones, my continuous AF option is not highlighted for me to select, any idea?