CAN THEY BEAT? 20 SHERMAN FIREFLY vs 10 TIGERS

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  • Tiger vs Sherman Firefly is one of those scenarios we've done a long time ago but today it's time to refresh that in a slightly new way. The story begins with British airborne troops, who just landed to hostile territory. They need to secure their surround and hold it till the armoured division arrives which apparently is late. Germans, however, are aware of their enemy activity on the area and prepare to assault. They're joined by heavy panzer division located mile away and they will arrive shortly to sow some chaos.
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  • @cnlbenmc
    @cnlbenmc 5 ปีที่แล้ว +217

    I like how the Tigers did exactly what they should have done in this situation, especially angling their hulls.
    Tough it was absolutely cruel to put M5 Stuart tanks up against them at the beginning. Though I'm not sure if they could be carried by glider, unlike those fiendish M22 Locust tanks.

    • @lucianobattistoniromero4618
      @lucianobattistoniromero4618 5 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      Well they were initially fighting only infantry then the Tigers showed up so... yep.

    • @zaidanmujahid6567
      @zaidanmujahid6567 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      I think Stuarts are small enough to fit in those gliders,although It was the Tetrarch that initially used for airborne operations

    • @vietnamesefarmerjusta607
      @vietnamesefarmerjusta607 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Pssst...Watch the video m8 greyhound vs tiger ii and you'll see

    • @strazly4525
      @strazly4525 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Dont think the Tigers did anything right tbh. Im surprised they won. In realistic terms In think the Tigers would have backed off as soon as they saw the first firefly that close. They always used range to there advantage in the war. Unless it is a shite commander in charge :)

    • @ChinHobbyToys
      @ChinHobbyToys 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@strazly4525 nah... they did ok... wait till you see what Michael wittman did by his lone Tiger 1 to a column of US/brits tanks and armored vehicle in one encounter

  • @chardtomp
    @chardtomp 4 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    It would probably play out that way if the Sherman's were actually stupid enough to go straight at them like it was the charge of the light brigade.

    • @Fallenking223
      @Fallenking223 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Phil Burton that’s actually a misconception.The chieftains hatch has video on it where he talks about these misconceptions.

    • @cuirassier4296
      @cuirassier4296 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I see that your crededentials were that one memoir that shouldnt be named. And fury

  • @paulyb7267
    @paulyb7267 5 ปีที่แล้ว +97

    Can you please do NATO vs Warsaw Pact 1985?

  • @thosewhocando
    @thosewhocando 5 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    Before I get started, very cool video.
    Couple of issues
    1) according to German doctrine, Armour typically stopped to fire.
    2) the guns on both tanks could kill each other in one shot.
    3) I can’t think of any time that I’ve read about was there 20 Fireflies in one place. a British tank company typically had 11-14 regular Shermans and 3-4 Fireflies. Why so few? Fireflies lose the hull MG because of the size of the OQF 17pdr round. Also, Fireflies normally don’t bother carrying non-armour piercing rounds. So no anti-Infantry high explosive or the like.
    In short the regular Shermans are generalist vs the Fireflies anti-armour specialists.

    • @pyrrusi6070
      @pyrrusi6070 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      1) Tiger's stop when the Sherman's arrived,
      2) That's not true, it depends where the sherman shoot. Also ricochets, because Germans positioning
      3) I don't know

    • @MikeBrown-go1pc
      @MikeBrown-go1pc 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Every shot from a tank did not kill other tanks. There were misses and bounces. If you look real hard on youtube you will find some of those military historian channels. One of them goes over what German commanders reported from various field gun and tank units using 75 and 88mm guns. Average number of shots per claimed tank kill was anywhere between 6 and 30 shells. So, they did not all kill each other in one shot.

    • @rdiddyspace1708
      @rdiddyspace1708 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      1) can't answer to this one. 2) I'd have to disagree, there were lots of misses especially with tanks moving and poor visibility and at close range they just bore sighted. but accuracy does matter in all the battle chaos. 3) 100% agree with you. sherman firefly was a tank killer and sprinkled across tank units. they wouldn't clump them together like this video.

  • @مليونمشاهدة-ش2ف
    @مليونمشاهدة-ش2ف 5 ปีที่แล้ว +408

    Name: Tiger tank
    Qualifications: eat sherman for breakfast

    • @adolfhitler7684
      @adolfhitler7684 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Yah yah haha.

    • @juicydumpling7865
      @juicydumpling7865 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Taha nu....... Gold !!!!
      .

    • @samuelmaltry6727
      @samuelmaltry6727 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Taha, Nu Sherman is a tasty snack for them 😂

    • @royel1578
      @royel1578 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Is sherman fail product??

    • @stevenbreach2561
      @stevenbreach2561 5 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Finite number of (granted)well engineered Tigers,infinite number of Sherman Fireflies.Firefly win.suck it up Cat fans

  • @rubblenutchubberos9563
    @rubblenutchubberos9563 5 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    Thing is that many more allied tanks could be produced than that of the Germans so even if they won this battle they really lost

    • @m1a1abramstank49
      @m1a1abramstank49 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      creapsmantic ( they still break down )

    • @Mana-Chann
      @Mana-Chann 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      To put what youve said to other perspective.....its cheaper to build toyota prius than a bugatti chiron, yet in every other way, the bugatti chiron is a sight to behold, unlike the mass-produced toyota prius and in every other way, the chiron is better built, more complex to build and much much more expensive to build, yet its a sight to behold

    • @m1a1abramstank49
      @m1a1abramstank49 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Mana Chan Comparing a Chiron to a Tiger with better built doesn’t make much sense

    • @nicholasg5714
      @nicholasg5714 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@Mana-Chann You're comparing tanks to cars.
      The Tiger was nothing more that a defensive tank as it was always either breaking down or running out of fuel because Germany lacked it.
      The Sherman was far more reliable, easier to repair, had a gun stabilizer, it was easier to transfer it to multiple fronts and upgrade it easier.

    • @Mana-Chann
      @Mana-Chann 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@nicholasg5714
      Well...I could agree with the better build quality of the sherman and the quite more advance mechanism in the sherman but....what would you rather look, a sherman or a tiger?
      .
      .
      And of course youll say a sherman, but in your mind, its always the tiger

  • @GTX1123
    @GTX1123 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Historically, the Tigers would have taken a much worse mauling from the 17 pounders on those Sherman Fireflies than what you see here. While it's true that the Sherman's armor was no match for the Tiger, the Germans feared the 17 pounder on the Firefly as it could and did, regularly destroy Mark IV Panzers and Tiger I's. In any tank engagement the Germans always went after the Fireflies first, prompting the Brits to hide them at the rear of the column.

  • @whiterunguard5316
    @whiterunguard5316 4 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Wasnt the firefly literally a tiger killing machine

    • @nuggetsnuggets6245
      @nuggetsnuggets6245 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Yes and feared for its massive arnament and at that range it can definitely pen a tiger 1

    • @BackwoodsTruther
      @BackwoodsTruther 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes it can go head on VS the Tiger 1

    • @mark97213
      @mark97213 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@BackwoodsTruther LOL

    • @mark97213
      @mark97213 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@FishType1 Not a chance.

    • @arnfrancistapic2352
      @arnfrancistapic2352 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@mark97213 yes it is

  • @feet3504
    @feet3504 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    "gunner wake the fuck up we're under patrol"

  • @CRAZYHORSE19682003
    @CRAZYHORSE19682003 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I know it is only a game scenario but would you ever see Sherman Firefly's in such concentrated numbers on the battlefield?

    • @lol-un6nl
      @lol-un6nl 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      probably so, but you definitely wouldnt see this many tigers

  • @Lunaloon227
    @Lunaloon227 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The shoemaker that defeated Michael Wittman: we just need SHOES not damn tanks!

  • @matykay9957
    @matykay9957 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    In reality the Firefly would never charge a Tiger. Instead they would take up position just under a mile away and remove each Tiger with surgical precision.

    • @derricklarsen462
      @derricklarsen462 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      No need to get close. Wtf for when your gun is as good or better

  • @idsfxtm5759
    @idsfxtm5759 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Hans! Ze Transmission is broke!

  • @stevenescobar1195
    @stevenescobar1195 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Oh yeahhh this is a good video men very very good video

  • @mgeert6032
    @mgeert6032 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I really like the tiger I and II! Great tanks even capable of competing with high trier panzer.

  • @pierceshinsuke8759
    @pierceshinsuke8759 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Fun fact the person used voice lines and calls from call of duty 3

  • @jameshanlon5689
    @jameshanlon5689 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    How about we have a little fun here. I say 5 M1-A2 Abrams tanks vs 10 Tigers tanks. You know, do a little time travel 🧭 here. What say you?

    • @patrickmccrann991
      @patrickmccrann991 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      1 M1A2 against 25 Tigers. Better matchup.

    • @MikeBrown-go1pc
      @MikeBrown-go1pc 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Why? A Tiger could do nothing vs a M1. 10 M1s could probably knock out 100 tigers.

    • @tankman7347
      @tankman7347 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Abrams vs Leopard 2

    • @theblueguy2311
      @theblueguy2311 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      No amount of tigers will destroy an Abrams.

  • @shouldntreallybehere69
    @shouldntreallybehere69 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I've been waiting forever for this

  • @Kosova-team
    @Kosova-team 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Make a video 50 m2 browning vs 50 dshk machine
    gun

  • @selvialtnkangal9213
    @selvialtnkangal9213 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    So very good

  • @wyatt1453
    @wyatt1453 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Then 5 Sherman jumbos come out of nowhere

    • @martincoufalik9101
      @martincoufalik9101 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      and found themself running away

    • @Winwiwiek
      @Winwiwiek 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Sherman jumbo still weak pz iv still can pen it

    • @krizhernandez4154
      @krizhernandez4154 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Winwiwiek even tiger II guns can't pen the jumbo's front.

  • @aleksapetricevic7112
    @aleksapetricevic7112 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Lol

  • @memelord97-99
    @memelord97-99 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ah Scheibe, here we go again.

  • @insomniac_rem
    @insomniac_rem 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Guys what are the other mods he use its not just robs realism, like how those tiger angle their hulls to increase protection and other things, maybe its just waypoints or an ai upgrader mod?

    • @insomniac_rem
      @insomniac_rem 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@chadestitalian6281 but not for me though

  • @raymondyee2008
    @raymondyee2008 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Looking at this after reading the book “Sherman Firely vs Tiger” by Stephen Hart.

  • @oriontheraptor8119
    @oriontheraptor8119 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Those poor lil stuarts ;-;

  • @lutgardonabo319
    @lutgardonabo319 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Can you do the SU-100 v.s. Stug 3

    • @СемёнДанильченко-ь8т
      @СемёнДанильченко-ь8т 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hmmm... Best soviet Anti tank (not best ,but have best soviet 100mm gun) versus biggest produced tank in 3 Reich ,it s like TIGER 2 versus kv1 .
      P.S. SORRY FOR NY ENGLISH

    • @Paciat
      @Paciat 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Ofc. SU-100 would win. Especially since SU-100 is a tank destroyer - a defensive weapon, so Stugs would have to attack.

  • @jamesevans2191
    @jamesevans2191 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    One Firefly beat 3 tigers and killed Whitman

  • @zkgg6163
    @zkgg6163 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Sadly this tank is hardly nerfed at world of tank
    Damn i love this tiger so much

    • @PaulAmPC
      @PaulAmPC 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Play war thunder

    • @PaulAmPC
      @PaulAmPC 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Play war thunder or company of heroes 2

    • @zkgg6163
      @zkgg6163 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I will ffs

    • @PaulAmPC
      @PaulAmPC 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@unnecessaryammorack i do? Let people text what they want to text...

    • @Paciat
      @Paciat 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Nerfed? Dont make things up. WG buffed its gun mantlet armor, rate of fire and hit points. It wasnt nerfed. WG just didnt use III Reich propaganda when making it. And it will be buffed again, so its gun (8,8 L71) will do more damage than the Soviet 100mm AT gun. The tier VI premium Tiger is also one of the best premium heavies at its tier.

  • @bendy459
    @bendy459 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Why does the Sherman Tank look so cute and the Tiger Tank like a monster thing?!

    • @lol-un6nl
      @lol-un6nl 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      medium tank vs heavy tank thats why

  • @ardian7801
    @ardian7801 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    what If tiger vs Leopard 2?

    • @Winwiwiek
      @Winwiwiek 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Not fair 88mm vs 125mm

    • @wtf-hc3tp
      @wtf-hc3tp 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Lazu 002333YT noob 120mm* but caliber doesn’t matter anyway, it’s the round it uses.

  • @johnadams-wp2yb
    @johnadams-wp2yb 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Foregone conclusion really.

  • @supratiksaha2001
    @supratiksaha2001 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Please do Centurion vs Patton.

  • @johnbarrett9673
    @johnbarrett9673 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    TIGER1 .. THE MIKE TYSON OF TANKS ....

  • @mikey-fi4cw
    @mikey-fi4cw 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Tigers vs Big Mices

  • @erikaitsumi3852
    @erikaitsumi3852 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Unfortunately no

  • @bp_cherryblossomtree723
    @bp_cherryblossomtree723 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Basically how the Germans thought the movie Fury vs How the Americans thought about the movie Fury

    • @hystarpro2470
      @hystarpro2470 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Im American but thought the tiger should of won but its hollywood and if the tiger won then the story line wouldnt of added up so i know thats why they did that

    • @iamthehype3684
      @iamthehype3684 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      In the movie fury they had a jumbo Sherman which had much better armor and a larger gun as well.

    • @derpanzer5219
      @derpanzer5219 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      cody Wooden there was never a jumbo Sherman in Fury

  • @forexdragon
    @forexdragon 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Firefly? Matilda? Why do the British have such dorky names for tanks?

  • @myreactiontothatinformatio6344
    @myreactiontothatinformatio6344 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Next: 10 ISU 152 vs 10 Tiger

  • @Azeroth939
    @Azeroth939 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Arnhem, a bridge too far?

  • @AdhmKassap
    @AdhmKassap 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    name of this game ?

  • @zunus2464
    @zunus2464 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Было бы хорошо, если бы вы показывали последствия боя. Подбитые танки, например.

  • @zyphrorodriguez6548
    @zyphrorodriguez6548 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    The m4 firefly uses a m412 chassis

  • @SlavJerry
    @SlavJerry 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Why the firefly can't priece tiger armor?

    • @warfare11gaming
      @warfare11gaming  5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Most of the time it does pierce but because of Firefly AP ammunition does not have HE filler in it, it can take numerous shots to destroy the tank and kill its crew.

  • @MuhammadAhmed-in8
    @MuhammadAhmed-in8 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Shermans are no match against the 10 tigers

  • @Mysterion-11
    @Mysterion-11 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Actually in this battle there will be a lot of soldiers died in a tank there's so many sherman tanks was destroyed those surviving shermans will destroy the tiger tank.
    the battle was good but the soldiers from america died i don't know how many soldiers died.

  • @pablostukaandaluz4287
    @pablostukaandaluz4287 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Market garden

  • @ThermometerNL
    @ThermometerNL 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Whats the soundtrack when the info of the tanks is stated?

  • @mr.birdman4447
    @mr.birdman4447 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What do a Sherman when he saw an Tiger!
    He exploded

    • @mr.birdman4447
      @mr.birdman4447 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Stink Wrinkles 🤦‍♂️Sherman tanks are the most worst tank in Ww2, the Tiger tank shot a Sherman with on shot over 3km to death

    • @mr.birdman4447
      @mr.birdman4447 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @Stink Wrinkles No, my comment was about the normal Sherman, and jea Allis win but Axis Power was the most effective. And wow you can be really proud that over 5 big countries needed to win a war against on county 🤣.
      Axis Power fuckt the world.
      And all Allis lose more soldiers than Germany.
      Sooooo I think we had the best soldiers ;]

    • @Winwiwiek
      @Winwiwiek 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@mr.birdman4447 yes GIGN ia best

  • @francesco5622
    @francesco5622 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Crossover the earth vs star wars galaxy at war vs rob realizm

  • @flicksmite5524
    @flicksmite5524 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    57 T?
    Is that really a normal weight for a tank?

  • @ajdiesing2875
    @ajdiesing2875 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    This video is amazing

  • @Mjk10957
    @Mjk10957 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Oh yer thats why i spotted playing world of tanks. The biased shite is so unbelievable 20 fireflys against 10 tigers and they only killed 8 of them. Getting the centurion and chieftain killed the game for me. literally two of the worlds best tanks at time get absolutely battered. For some reason a 105mm on a centurion finds it extremely difficult to pen a T54/55 and a T62. Mmmmm the 7 day war anyone you know real life two damaged centurions stopped 70 T54/55 and T62 but why let real life get in the way of a extremely biases game.

  • @JW-qx9yp
    @JW-qx9yp 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    what is that game name

    • @warfare11gaming
      @warfare11gaming  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Men of War Assault Squad 2

    • @JW-qx9yp
      @JW-qx9yp 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@warfare11gaming thanks

  • @stephenmcqueen4029
    @stephenmcqueen4029 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Christ there are a lot of casualties

  • @furkanerdogan4769
    @furkanerdogan4769 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Operation Market Garden?

  • @rdn7517
    @rdn7517 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Warfare Gaming
    Please make video about IS-3 I didn't see any videos about that great tank

  • @nordi2010
    @nordi2010 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    No!

  • @HUNKISDOMPER
    @HUNKISDOMPER 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    1 tiger 4 sherman

  • @kriegsvogel1577
    @kriegsvogel1577 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Do sherman 105mm vs tigers

  • @luisdirceuvelazquezfuentes6433
    @luisdirceuvelazquezfuentes6433 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Tiger the best tank

  • @drsolo7
    @drsolo7 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Dont even imply that it takes 5 shermans for 1 tiger. It just isnt true if you put a 20 pdr gun -_-

  • @thatonetanker5565
    @thatonetanker5565 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The Tiger rocks.

  • @chrisbenzelino1984
    @chrisbenzelino1984 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ein Tiger 1 durchschlägt ein Sherman immer durch der Front oder ? Eigentlich schon! 🤔🤔😎😎

    • @Captain_Hungry
      @Captain_Hungry 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Muss nicht sein, ist der Winkel sehr schlecht kann auch mal was abprallen.

  • @quintensmodels5966
    @quintensmodels5966 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    It should be 10 sherman firefly vs 10 tigers

    • @adolfhitler7684
      @adolfhitler7684 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Lol massacre.

    • @Caughtin4klol-nj4zi
      @Caughtin4klol-nj4zi 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@adolfhitler7684Depends tiger front armour can be penetrated by fireflies 10 vs 10 is fair it depends on who shot first since both can penetrate each other

  • @yungsulee2992
    @yungsulee2992 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    nice intro :)

  • @combustionberg3303
    @combustionberg3303 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Was it only me that saw some tiger E shots being ricoched or am i stupid ?

    • @warfare11gaming
      @warfare11gaming  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I don't think you're stupid. At some high degree angle, even Tiger E shots can ricochet

    • @combustionberg3303
      @combustionberg3303 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@warfare11gaming ok didn't know

  • @dreadster6997
    @dreadster6997 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I need your battle Simulator

  • @user-xq1kj6bd5h
    @user-xq1kj6bd5h 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Что??? Чтобы Шерманы против Тигров да с таким счетом? Да ну на фиг! В жизни было бы 10:0 в пользу Тигров.

  • @valenrn8657
    @valenrn8657 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    In real life, there's more M26 units when compared to Tiger I units.

    • @spdfatomicstructure
      @spdfatomicstructure 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Rnl Valen *IS-2

    • @YiAtlas
      @YiAtlas 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      No, M26 started to serve at the end of the war, like the British comet, they did not have too many fights. They did fight against some German panzer such as Panther.
      The video is about the Anglo-Canadian, their most powerful tank in 1944 Normandy is a Firefly, or basically every tank with a 17pdr. (M10 Achilles is terrible because of the turret turning rate, and A30 Challenger is also a terrible tank design, so basically, Sherman firefly) A 17pdr can penetrate a tiger or panther in the front at a range above 800m (it is on the data, but not in the reality)
      At the same time, US had a hard time, because they basically had no tank to fight against German Panther. When they started to encounter panther during the Operation Cobra, almost every US tank units equipped 75mm sherman. US did have the chance to choose the new 76 sherman, but they did not. After slaughtered by panther tanks, US started to adopt more and more 76mm Sherman, and even asked Britons to produce firefly for them. (A bill for 100 firefly, but the Britons did not have enough for their own, so US did not get much after all.) For then, US started to bring more powerful AT role tank into their service, such as m36 Jackson and m4a3e8, or later M26.
      Basically, M26 did not see that much action during WW2.

  • @nudeman1963
    @nudeman1963 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    In der Realität hätten die Fireflys, auf diese Entfernung und frontal, kaum einen Tiger zerstören können.

    • @Caughtin4klol-nj4zi
      @Caughtin4klol-nj4zi 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

      firefly would penetrate the king tigers and tigers even from the front, the firefly can penetrate up to 256mm at the range of 1000 metre with sabot rounds

  • @_OpFor
    @_OpFor 5 ปีที่แล้ว +58

    oh man I love the engine sound of an idling tiger

  • @shouldntreallybehere69
    @shouldntreallybehere69 5 ปีที่แล้ว +160

    I've been hearing audio dialogue from Call of Duty 2

    • @carpet163
      @carpet163 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Fendeliche infantarie!

    • @heshpandemic7359
      @heshpandemic7359 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Same

    • @stukature
      @stukature 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      MacGregoooooooor!!! Jokes aside, me too.

    • @pierceshinsuke8759
      @pierceshinsuke8759 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      If you want some inspiration read a poem

    • @tammyandtimstewart8558
      @tammyandtimstewart8558 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Quite a bit of CoD 2 sound effects are used in these simulations I've noticed

  • @cnlbenmc
    @cnlbenmc 5 ปีที่แล้ว +87

    What the hell is up with that guy at 1:06?

    • @_Aldi1337
      @_Aldi1337 5 ปีที่แล้ว +31

      He lost his tea

    • @matsuzakasato47
      @matsuzakasato47 5 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Combat flip

    • @SFCKNZSD
      @SFCKNZSD 5 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      He got shot in the abdomen but his tea flask saved him.

    • @adolfhitler7684
      @adolfhitler7684 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Tumbling Boy.

    • @ruskiarvo5785
      @ruskiarvo5785 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Was waiting for this cmt ! Nice

  • @ubergeneral3652
    @ubergeneral3652 5 ปีที่แล้ว +34

    Well that was impressive battle
    And my favourite Tiger I did actually angled their armor to ricochet the incoming shell so I actually did that too on purpose hehe nice anyway

  • @yangs975
    @yangs975 5 ปีที่แล้ว +213

    An American marked tank in a *british* battle?
    *well that’s not my cup of tea*

    • @christjoecilledarucadaruca3563
      @christjoecilledarucadaruca3563 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      lol

    • @batuhanaca2214
      @batuhanaca2214 5 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      Dude,allies used the same american mark during the war so they recognised each other

    • @serenade4926
      @serenade4926 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      The Stuart or the Firefly?

    • @MrKaba1985
      @MrKaba1985 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      The Firefly is an updated Sherman the 75 pounder was installed after the US main version can't Penetrat an tiger 1 in front. The only thing there is the range German gunners start shooting between 2 - 1 km there was the accuracy from other nations not that good 100 shells on 1500m shotted and 45% - 60% hitting on German side on the over side only about 30% but the German tanks Penetrat the US or UK not

    • @jamesbednar8625
      @jamesbednar8625 5 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      The American STAR was used on most Allied vehicles fighting in the West. It was meant to help Allied aircraft distinguish friend from foe and reduce instances of "friendly fire". NOT all British armor used the STAR. Also, same markings were used on Allied vehicles during the Korea War. Unfortunately, that BIG WHITE STAR was an excellent aiming point for enemy gunners.

  • @alexbowman7582
    @alexbowman7582 5 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    The tigers were usually waiting for the Shermans to advance which gave them a benefit.

    • @Onatisop
      @Onatisop 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Nope

  • @koreanbassinalt9851
    @koreanbassinalt9851 5 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    Dang, I come back to this channep after 2 years and your conetent has really improved from no camera work to epic cinematic stuff, great job!

  • @TankDragonSherman
    @TankDragonSherman 5 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    17pdrs failing to pen a barely angled tiger.... Riiiiight

    • @wtf-hc3tp
      @wtf-hc3tp 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The angle gave the Tiger I more armor...

    • @wtf-hc3tp
      @wtf-hc3tp 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      ur mom probably game physics. Direct hit goes through. Slightly angled bounces, I don’t know.

    • @richieThach
      @richieThach 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @Megas Pantelos Not really. Sherman Fireflies with their 17 pdr can literally roast a Tiger.

    • @justarandompersonininterne6583
      @justarandompersonininterne6583 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@richieThach on 700meters. Not 1km looks like tiger

    • @richieThach
      @richieThach 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Phil Burton They weren’t despite what that one memoir told you. It was actually much easier to get out of a burning or disabled M4 Sherman than any other counterpart tank. Plus by late war, they stowed their ammo in wet stowages, which greatly decreased the chance of the ammo catching on fire

  • @localextremist2839
    @localextremist2839 5 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Warfare Gaming add a scenario with Japanese kamikaze planes Trying to crash onto a ship with anti aircraft guns and try to survive until aircraft reinforcements came
    Would be awesome

    • @warfare11gaming
      @warfare11gaming  5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      That's a pretty specific request that would last no longer than 30 seconds. I rather see that scene part of some bigger scenario so there it's a possibility for sure

    • @localextremist2839
      @localextremist2839 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@warfare11gaming How about the yamato ship getting torpedoed and shot by american Bombers and fighters?

  • @MrHenhen5
    @MrHenhen5 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Fun fact, those wave patterns on the fireflys gun was actually an attempt to conceal the long gun, in the hopes that from a distance it would look like a normal sherman... They also occasionally put a fake muzzle half way down the barrel.
    They did this because the Germans quickly knew that a sherman with the normal 75mm gun wasn't much danger to a tiger or a panther, but the 76mm or 17 pounder guns that were longer with the muzzle on the end were dangerous, so theyd take those out first.

  • @juri_lord
    @juri_lord 5 ปีที่แล้ว +44

    Tiger the best!

    • @david123davi7
      @david123davi7 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Yeah

    • @nicholasg5714
      @nicholasg5714 5 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Until it breaks down.

    • @nicholasg5714
      @nicholasg5714 5 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@mistermarius3815 their economy and fuel would be non existent

    • @panzerclub1185
      @panzerclub1185 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@mistermarius3815 They would have lost the war early, since no one in the right mind drains all their resources on a thank gets easily outmaneuvered by Shermans or Greyhounds

    • @tomsowplays8035
      @tomsowplays8035 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@mistermarius3815 Maybe the problem was that Tiger took around 120 000$ to build, while Sherman Firefly took around 50 000$ (and US had better industrial capability) and both tanks were able to penetrate each other from around 1km (800m for US and ??? for Germany). Another fact is that usually if shell penetrated Sherman, then it would kill 1-2 guys and rest would just bail out. Meanwhile Tigers were known to blown up if shell (even indirectly) hit ammo storage, which wasn't the case in M4 Sherman.

  • @alexbowman7582
    @alexbowman7582 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    The German tank crews were highly trained. Also the shermans would usually be advancing whilst the tigers would usually be defending giving them the advantage.

    • @evanbasham4875
      @evanbasham4875 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      The crew depends on the year. The Tiger came out in 43, which was when Germany was on the backfoot. This meant less training time, less ergonomics, lower quality metal on the Tiger, underpowered engines and so on and so forth. The Fireflies on the other hand could EASILY penetrate the frontal hull or turret armor of the Tiger 1. Yes, the angling made a great deal of difference, but historically not enough of a difference. If you have evidence to debunk me, please tell me, but I have a feeling you can't

    • @mrwehraboo5478
      @mrwehraboo5478 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      The tiger 1 was first used in 1942 in north africa and in leningrad

  • @pt109che
    @pt109che 5 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    Malarkey, Firefly has higher penetration versus 88; what mattered was who had the drop first.

    • @cuhurun
      @cuhurun 5 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      T L... yep, 17 pounder was overall a better gun, although most game producers still follow the erroneous folk-tale that nothing was ever better or could outmatch the Flak 88 family.

    • @danno1ize
      @danno1ize 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      17 pounder penetration at 1500 meters,88 could take out a Sherman at 2000.

    • @mrwehraboo5478
      @mrwehraboo5478 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Doesnt the 88mm have more explosive filler?

    • @ulrichrath9429
      @ulrichrath9429 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@danno1ize yep

    • @huntforandrew
      @huntforandrew 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@danno1ize The 17 pounders APDS round could penetrate 162mm of armor at 3000 meters so.. The Tiger 1 had what? 100mm of armor on it's upper front plate and between 90 and 120mm on the front of it's turret. Double that 1500 for the 17 pounder and you got it.

  • @xrxr_2809
    @xrxr_2809 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Kiedyś to kurła było

  • @mrkris6040
    @mrkris6040 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Love the intro and the buildup of the action. Instead of an arena type battle it starts like a storry battle

  • @wuifenn
    @wuifenn 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Probably the most British thing said in this video
    "Gunner wake the fuck up we're on patrol"

  • @1918BARsam
    @1918BARsam 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I don't agree. The Sherman firefly is equal to the Tiger I or even better. The Tiger's armor advantage is useless since the 17 pounder could still punch through from more than 1km away, so I'd choose the faster and more mobile tank.

  • @stefanovich6239
    @stefanovich6239 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Love the Tiger's cannon sound

  • @florasidiand5009
    @florasidiand5009 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Sherman tank:hits a tiger tank tiger tank:so you have chosen death

    • @FarizTrinidad
      @FarizTrinidad 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      the tiger would blow up lol

    • @kenny8654
      @kenny8654 ปีที่แล้ว

      more like:
      sherman tank:hits tiger
      tiger tank:dies

  • @Necrophite78
    @Necrophite78 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    5:08 that glorious moment!

  • @Real_British
    @Real_British 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    *one canadian VS one tiger ace?*

    • @aegeanharrier6648
      @aegeanharrier6648 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Depends on the situation

    • @kahlil2638
      @kahlil2638 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@aegeanharrier6648 he’s referring to the Sherman Fireflies that killed Michael Whittmann and his entire platoon.

    • @aegeanharrier6648
      @aegeanharrier6648 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@kahlil2638 oh yeah. But Im still not wrong

    • @kahlil2638
      @kahlil2638 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@aegeanharrier6648 generally it’s whoever shoots first in a tank battle

    • @aegeanharrier6648
      @aegeanharrier6648 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@kahlil2638 Generally. But not with japan and its anti infantry tanks

  • @SaaaakuraDev
    @SaaaakuraDev 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Oh yes I remember that a 17 Pdr struggles to pen a Tiger of course

    • @helenward4342
      @helenward4342 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ye ikr

    • @helenward4342
      @helenward4342 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @F-15J Eagle yeah but because it was a solid shot it get still make the ammunition go up

    • @helenward4342
      @helenward4342 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @F-15J Eagle yes but we’re not talking about the gunners skill at firing

    • @Caughtin4klol-nj4zi
      @Caughtin4klol-nj4zi 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@helenward4342firefly would penetrate the king tigers and tigers even from the front, the firefly can penetrate up to 256mm at the range of 1000 metre with sabot rounds

  • @stralegaming2597
    @stralegaming2597 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Sherman firefly can kill the tigef from the front actually

  • @chrismai539
    @chrismai539 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Completely biased. I actually knew a tiger tank crew member (deceased now) the tank had many mechanical issues and the overlapping wheels caused many problems

    • @YiAtlas
      @YiAtlas 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      RexXflash Haha, nowhere near to the Jerry. LOL, are u talking about the burning panther tank engine from 1942-1943? German tank is well protected, for some, but Panther Tiger and Tiger II were never the main force. If u r talking about panzer IV, sorry, they are nothing better than sherman. Start to learn about the cost and reliability about a tank.

    • @patrickmccrann991
      @patrickmccrann991 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Keep in mind that U.S. Armor doctrine was different than Germany's. Also, all tanks had to be shipped overseas and unloaded with what equipment was on hand. U.S. opted for a smaller, lighter tank that would give good service and was easy to transport. They had a hell of a time when they tried shipping Pershings later in the war because of their size and weight.

    • @patrickmccrann991
      @patrickmccrann991 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @RexXflash thats funny Rex! P-51 was superior to everything it faced except the ME-262 and there were few of them and they still shot it down. B-17 and B-24 were far superior to any bomber the Germans fielded during the war. P-47 was superior to most German fighters except a chosen few that saw limited service. These are all examples of the Americans inferior engineering. Maybe the U.S tanks weren't the best, but they were far more reliable than the Germans they faced, half of whom broke down before getting to be battlefield.

    • @rusoviettovarich9221
      @rusoviettovarich9221 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@patrickmccrann991 They were also designed in width so that 3 instead of 2 could be fitted for transport

  • @gianghoang4831
    @gianghoang4831 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    10 m26 pershing vs 10 tiger

    • @eagle-gx4qf
      @eagle-gx4qf 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      after developer time but it must be tiger 2. that will be a food for the cats.

  • @michaelwittmann5754
    @michaelwittmann5754 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    In wotblitz a tier 4 can easily destroy the tiger 1 because that thing has barely ARMOR

  • @Analog_Mind47
    @Analog_Mind47 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Do 10 Pershings vs 10 Tiger 1s

    • @cnlbenmc
      @cnlbenmc 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      That would be an ugly one for the Tigers; Pershings have a gun that is superior in every way (plus double the explosive filler on APCBC shells) and have sloped armor.

  • @alucardgd2831
    @alucardgd2831 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    King 5 is from call of duty 2 in the mission where your inna small town and panzer 2s and waves of germans attack you (ps i beat cod 2 on veteran not that hard tbh)