This has to be one of the best most in-depth video on high ping I have ever seen thank u for this the graph for the triple edit is the best way to explain it I figured that out by playing high ping for so long but I didn’t think it was a real mechanic but it’s good that people acknowledge it and know to to explain it. as a high ping player I appreciated deserves more views
Very detailed, and much appreciated. 60 average ping here... (NA EAST, FLORIDA), even with a 1gbps fiber line, wired connection and a 3090ti with a 165hz monitor, at some point I wondered where my skill ends and ping can be blamed, but it seems it's likely my skill most of the time, sadly. Thanks for the info. 👑
@@nakyu.. To what extent? I'm looking at videos of people triple editing or quad editing in 60 ping+, and sure it isn't as fast as a 0 ping player, but it's possible.... I know ping is important but I don't think it should be used an an excuse all of the time... Not for me anyways. 👑
@@tabalo126 I've played tons of creative maps, scrims, I spectate tons of unreal ranked players, quad editing isn't necessary... Triple editing is, but I've seen people with top tier game sense and aim get by with double edits only and absolutely annihilate other good players... And yes, you reiterated exactly what I said. But thank you.
@@SyNKevN how does that relate to anything I said never said you cant be good on high ping how ever it’s absolutely IMPOSSIBLE to have top tier mechs on 60 oing
I'm out here trying to game at home with 700 to 800 ping on satellite internet (it's all we have out here, and not what I usually use, but, when sick and screwed otherwise- when in rome-) it has gotta be the WORST experience I've ever had with lag, obviously, but at the same time I'm having more fun given I'm not at all taking it seriously even slightly, since, well, *I can't.*
I've been testing this for myself and I can almost 100% guarantee it is NOT 50/50. Im a pretty mechanical player, I usually play at 60-100 ping (yes it is that unconsistent, tho in game is usually fixated on some value in between, like 80ish ping a whole match) and I take one wall out of six attempts. Tested in public matches and creative playing against everyone and trying just to take walls. Not only that, also there's this micro second where I can actually see how I placed my builds just to be instantly replaced by my enemy's. I'd wish it was 50/50 but as a pretty high skilled player I can say it is not true, not to me at least. And of course, excelent video as always.
50/50' means the chance is random, so it could be either u or him, it doesnt mean that from those 6 matches you should be getting them walls 3 of every 6 matches, doesnt work like that
@@GatoPatataGameplays It still is not a 50/50. Playing for 3 years now on a 80+ ping and I never took a wall first try, sometimes I can not take it for 15 times. It is not a 50/50. Maybe when you holding it, but not when replacing
@@harcha3562 50/50 is a chance, not a statement to be said. In programming, 50/50 means that anything can happen, meaning that yes, as a matter of fact you might aswell not replace the wall, even after 100 tries. Just because something is 50/50 it doesnt mean that out of X ammount of times, you are supposed to get it the same ammount, thats not how chances work, just because there is a probability it doesnt ensure that something will go your way
Watching this video again cause I've been getting better at the game and people have been 0 pinging me. Like any time someone goes for my wall I have to edit out, no other choice, I can't even try to make an edit cause I'll get punished, either they're waiting for me to edit or break my edit which I can defend neither of, so I have to run. Now I'm thinking of only going against players like me, 130 to 200 ping players now lol
Im russian but live near japan and its so boring to play fortnite without friends with humble japanese players without mics so I start to play on europe with 150 ping and I enjoy it much more
Amazing content, an idea I'd wish youd explore is the situations where it is better to take out your pickaxe to make the edit. It happens with pre-edits on and youll go to edit your wall and instead ill pre-edit my cone...situations like that or maybe you find the right spot to point the ray cast
I’m late lol but another tip that he didn’t mention: enemies can hit more shots through builds when you are on high ping, so make shure to make multiple boxes for yourself
As a playstayion 4 player who plays on a basic controller who runs 30 ping lowest in creative and 60 pint lowest in games, I can say I can’t hold walls in creative or battle royale
Thanks! There really isn't a perfect sense though, it's really whatever you're most comfortable with. I'd recommend trying out a bunch and use whatever you play best with
Friend, since I have a bad PC, I would like to know which 16:9 resolution is the lowest that I can use? I don't want to lose any fov and gain fps.. is it 1600 x 900? or what is the lowest 16:9 resolution for me to put it on and be able to play with more fps without losing fov... Thanks in advance for your answer
in-game my ping is around 50 but in the aws latency test its a lot higher (around 80). Should I be worrying or epic games is lying to everyone so its fine?
debug ping is incorrect. it subtracts 20-25ms from your ACTUAL ping and adds server side delay which depends on player count and assets in the viscinity.
I noticed this video is from year ago and I have some suggestion because I think now it's not the case anymore. first about shot and registering the bulet. we see so many times that someone get shot after they went behind a cover and you can see bullet traveled not close to you. this is because the other player who had high ping shot you when you were on their screen. this also happen a lot in laggy lobbies until fortnite fixed that and when they were stuck somewhere you could shot them. second is about holding your wall. it's not just remembering negative ones I say. I travel to my friends house time to time that he has zero ping and I have about 30. when I'm holding wall in 0 ping i can say it's just 0 chance the opponent get my wall. I understand the attacker depend on ping but me who play defensive I can easliy see the difference that it just almost never happen and those time it happened it was only because I wasn't holding and I wanted to press the button after because I was doing something else. I'm more sure about the ping one but I say this need to be investigated again and fortnite did that Aim one to help people with higher ping
hey sly jack ! you just won a subscriber, this has to be the best video explaining high ping. i find this servers thing so unfair. im in ecuador, latin amercia playing on NA EAST ping 90. i know im skilled but ping just does not allow me to compete... epic should look a way to give this part of the world decent servers, brazil does not work if someone is wondering... lowest ping is NA EAST. but yeah. thsi is crazy, thank you for this great vid.
idc what anyone saysd i was a pro player with 16k earnings on 0 ping, then when i went to uni it switched to 60 ping and decreased my performance a lot.
Is there a way to always get on a server location for exemple i live in France near germany and my ping is better at on of the server located at Frankfurt , is there a way to always get a game there ?
Hello Sly Jack i have a question can you tell me if my bind are optimal?: wall- left alt stair-c roof-mouse button flool-x edit-q place building-rmb . only my building bind. ofc i have scroll reset and if a didint mention some bind its defult. Btw thanks for good video.
Its ok except for your edit bind. You cant make a peanut butter edit while running at the left since you cant press A. If you really wanna go optimal, you should edit with your mouse so you dont have to take your fingers off the movement keys.
I get everything its just now im playing safe defensive and my box extra one to escape to with a another box space what do i do now how do i kill him because most will now go for a peanut butter edit or window edit but those for me just make me trade with the guy even the safest of peaks only way i can damage them is suprising them but thats very hard
@superigg_ what mens by that is the delay makes it impossible since reset is not an option and you need to stand still behind the peak before you can even peak since backtrack will allow him to shoot you even if you are behind so it's way to predictable
It’s not a 50/50 for taking walls at all I tested this many times I have tested it while being on 60-90 ping against players with an average of 10,20,and 30 ping of which 0/10 did I pull any walls from the 10 ping players 0/10 did I pull any walls from the 20 ping player and 0/10 did I pull the wall from the 30 ping player the only feasible way to consistently take walls on ping above 50 Is to surprise them and 99% of the time it’s just not gonna work so no it is NOT 50/50 and not even 25/75 it’s more like 2/98 chance
Bro wtf are u saying, don't lie to people retake a wall it is not 50/50. It's determinated by ur ping at the moment. I used to play on 30ping with 1-2% packet loss and i couldn't take any wall, 0. Now im playing on 0 ping with delay optimisation and i can take 80% of wall in a game.
TRY LIVING IN SOUTHEAST ASIA WHERE WE GETS NO SEA SERVER,PLAYS WITH 0PING JAPANESE WHO COULD TAKES OUR WALL AND PIECE CONTROL US BY THE BLIND OF OUR OWN EYES AND ALWAYS 90PING
Well far east of russia feels great. 150-160 EU 300+ ASIA wtf they done? It was 20-40 160-240 OC NA, SA - not intrested, but its high Now it's absolutely unplayable. Living in asia and can't play normaly on asia
dude this video single handedly is the best fortnite info video ever made u are seriously a god thank you i wish i could give you hug or buy you a dinner and kiss you on the mfing lips dayum
Iv got 70 average ping IT IS not 50 50 on 0 ping they always take my wall when I hold been playing this ping for years to I never hold walls 50 50 to 0 ping EVER
This has to be one of the best most in-depth video on high ping I have ever seen thank u for this the graph for the triple edit is the best way to explain it I figured that out by playing high ping for so long but I didn’t think it was a real mechanic but it’s good that people acknowledge it and know to to explain it. as a high ping player I appreciated deserves more views
As a person who plays in the Philippines and have a average ping of 90-120 this is super helpful
same from the Philippines too
i play in philippines too but i get ~25 ping in creative and ~45 ping in pubs. exitlag lowered my ping by a lot
@@robbie1 can you pls show your setting in exitlag
my ping in pakistan is 1100 and my wifi is 2mbps
i play in NA East with 100-120😢
Very nice experiments and explanation
the tutorial that all of us needs, thank so much
Very detailed, and much appreciated. 60 average ping here... (NA EAST, FLORIDA), even with a 1gbps fiber line, wired connection and a 3090ti with a 165hz monitor, at some point I wondered where my skill ends and ping can be blamed, but it seems it's likely my skill most of the time, sadly.
Thanks for the info.
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ur mechanic limit is clearly determinated by ur ping.
@@nakyu.. To what extent? I'm looking at videos of people triple editing or quad editing in 60 ping+, and sure it isn't as fast as a 0 ping player, but it's possible....
I know ping is important but I don't think it should be used an an excuse all of the time... Not for me anyways.
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Yeah but being able to quad edit is barely avg or below avg mechs you cant have like top tier mechanics on 60 ping@@SyNKevN
@@tabalo126 I've played tons of creative maps, scrims, I spectate tons of unreal ranked players, quad editing isn't necessary... Triple editing is, but I've seen people with top tier game sense and aim get by with double edits only and absolutely annihilate other good players...
And yes, you reiterated exactly what I said. But thank you.
@@SyNKevN how does that relate to anything I said never said you cant be good on high ping how ever it’s absolutely IMPOSSIBLE to have top tier mechs on 60 oing
As a 150-250ping player, I started thinking to stop the game but u just gave me hope again😂 thx a lot
My life. Now i only play zéro build
@@H4ppym1nty eventually I found out that for my level, the differences are annoying but not as disabling as if I was a pro player so I just accept it
@@H4ppym1ntyplaying zero build ping doesn’t matter ?
@@har_d_rocks9987 ping is Always important. But in zéro build you could play with less desavantage
@@har_d_rocks9987not much
I'm out here trying to game at home with 700 to 800 ping on satellite internet (it's all we have out here, and not what I usually use, but, when sick and screwed otherwise- when in rome-)
it has gotta be the WORST experience I've ever had with lag, obviously, but at the same time I'm having more fun given I'm not at all taking it seriously even slightly, since, well, *I can't.*
I've been testing this for myself and I can almost 100% guarantee it is NOT 50/50.
Im a pretty mechanical player, I usually play at 60-100 ping (yes it is that unconsistent, tho in game is usually fixated on some value in between, like 80ish ping a whole match) and I take one wall out of six attempts.
Tested in public matches and creative playing against everyone and trying just to take walls. Not only that, also there's this micro second where I can actually see how I placed my builds just to be instantly replaced by my enemy's.
I'd wish it was 50/50 but as a pretty high skilled player I can say it is not true, not to me at least.
And of course, excelent video as always.
50/50' means the chance is random, so it could be either u or him, it doesnt mean that from those 6 matches you should be getting them walls 3 of every 6 matches, doesnt work like that
@@GatoPatataGameplays It still is not a 50/50. Playing for 3 years now on a 80+ ping and I never took a wall first try, sometimes I can not take it for 15 times. It is not a 50/50. Maybe when you holding it, but not when replacing
@@harcha3562 50/50 is a chance, not a statement to be said.
In programming, 50/50 means that anything can happen, meaning that yes, as a matter of fact you might aswell not replace the wall, even after 100 tries.
Just because something is 50/50 it doesnt mean that out of X ammount of times, you are supposed to get it the same ammount, thats not how chances work, just because there is a probability it doesnt ensure that something will go your way
@@GatoPatataGameplays let's be real that high pings will not replace the low pings walls on 50/50. That's more like 10/90
@@harcha3562 im pretty sure he said its impossible over 90 if they are holding?
Yall think 50 is a lot? My lowest I get is 200
Lol same
@OkO32 so hard in building
Same
Were do you pive brotha, in the
mon or smt
@@GkpremiumDum South Africa.. also learn English mate
this video is very good and detailed bro keep up the good work
This just all shows how much of a disadvantage high ping players play at my lowest ping is 120
same here
i play with 220, yeah is hard
amazing work !
Watching this video again cause I've been getting better at the game and people have been 0 pinging me. Like any time someone goes for my wall I have to edit out, no other choice, I can't even try to make an edit cause I'll get punished, either they're waiting for me to edit or break my edit which I can defend neither of, so I have to run. Now I'm thinking of only going against players like me, 130 to 200 ping players now lol
You're one of the most underrated content creators in terms of actual valuable content👊🏼 thank you,I play on 160 ping as we don't have our own servers
nah bro if taking walls is a 50 50 then I might as well go buy 2 lottery tickets and have a 100% chance of winning
Legendd ur vids are so helpful
Your so underrated :D thank you so much
bro the reaction time is what i needed thank you
Im russian but live near japan and its so boring to play fortnite without friends with humble japanese players without mics so I start to play on europe with 150 ping and I enjoy it much more
Bro ur lucky u get 0 ping
bro thanks this helps alot
Amazing content, an idea I'd wish youd explore is the situations where it is better to take out your pickaxe to make the edit. It happens with pre-edits on and youll go to edit your wall and instead ill pre-edit my cone...situations like that or maybe you find the right spot to point the ray cast
Taking walls just can't be 50v50 I went into a map with my 0 ping friend and never got his wall onced and he got my every single Time and I'm on 60
I’m playing from Hawaii, and High Ping does affect gamers here. 😭😭😭 wish they had “Hawaii servers,” lol
me too bro thats what i always say😂
I want to have South African servers playing on 240 ping sucks
I’m late lol but another tip that he didn’t mention: enemies can hit more shots through builds when you are on high ping, so make shure to make multiple boxes for yourself
Great explanation of important mechanics!
As a playstayion 4 player who plays on a basic controller who runs 30 ping lowest in creative and 60 pint lowest in games, I can say I can’t hold walls in creative or battle royale
Same i got 40-50 ping in EU and everyone takes my wall first try it feels like it got wurs with the new season
@@Grailfox_Racing_Trioyeah this season for sure fucked it up, i'm on 60 ping and everything feels so much more delayed
I love your videos. Could you do one for how finding my own perfect sense for aiming and building. Great thx to you. Good job😀👍
Thanks! There really isn't a perfect sense though, it's really whatever you're most comfortable with. I'd recommend trying out a bunch and use whatever you play best with
@@Sly-Jack OK i will try it so
@@andypeters7385 big mouse pad and low sense! Lol.
definitely earned my sub
Thank You!! 🙂
Why does jumping not have ping delay? Doesn't it have to go back to the server?
Rlly needing this after na central came in
Friend, since I have a bad PC, I would like to know which 16:9 resolution is the lowest that I can use? I don't want to lose any fov and gain fps.. is it 1600 x 900? or what is the lowest 16:9 resolution for me to put it on and be able to play with more fps without losing fov...
Thanks in advance for your answer
in-game my ping is around 50 but in the aws latency test its a lot higher (around 80). Should I be worrying or epic games is lying to everyone so its fine?
i have the same problem, check my last video , really play with it
debug ping is incorrect. it subtracts 20-25ms from your ACTUAL ping and adds server side delay which depends on player count and assets in the viscinity.
he is my favorite tips and tricks youtuber.
Nah bro you deserve a sub
Thank you so much
I noticed this video is from year ago and I have some suggestion because I think now it's not the case anymore.
first about shot and registering the bulet. we see so many times that someone get shot after they went behind a cover and you can see bullet traveled not close to you. this is because the other player who had high ping shot you when you were on their screen. this also happen a lot in laggy lobbies until fortnite fixed that and when they were stuck somewhere you could shot them.
second is about holding your wall. it's not just remembering negative ones I say. I travel to my friends house time to time that he has zero ping and I have about 30. when I'm holding wall in 0 ping i can say it's just 0 chance the opponent get my wall. I understand the attacker depend on ping but me who play defensive I can easliy see the difference that it just almost never happen and those time it happened it was only because I wasn't holding and I wanted to press the button after because I was doing something else. I'm more sure about the ping one but I say this need to be investigated again and fortnite did that Aim one to help people with higher ping
6:48 so its impossible for my to hit a pre fire on brazil? (190ms)
How did you make that you have higher ping?
hey sly jack ! you just won a subscriber, this has to be the best video explaining high ping. i find this servers thing so unfair. im in ecuador, latin amercia playing on NA EAST ping 90. i know im skilled but ping just does not allow me to compete... epic should look a way to give this part of the world decent servers, brazil does not work if someone is wondering... lowest ping is NA EAST. but yeah. thsi is crazy, thank you for this great vid.
amazing vid except for the fact that you can pickaxe edit at any ping at the same speed because the pullout time doesnt effect when you can edit
idc what anyone saysd i was a pro player with 16k earnings on 0 ping, then when i went to uni it switched to 60 ping and decreased my performance a lot.
Best channel in yt
Is there a way to always get on a server location for exemple i live in France near germany and my ping is better at on of the server located at Frankfurt , is there a way to always get a game there ?
quality vid as always
I have 40 ping in creative but 70 in games
Summary : place far build pieces first
bro. i took the latency test but my closest is london and it says around 450ms. damn now that is some high ping i guess for the servers
when i’m holding turbo build with double binds zero ping kids can still take it when not holding using single binds?
i play 66 ping and i still take walls every time
cant fucking believe thy added central American servers before southern African servers
thanks for the tips but how the hell do you edit with d?
Hello Sly Jack i have a question can you tell me if my bind are optimal?: wall- left alt stair-c roof-mouse button flool-x edit-q place building-rmb . only my building bind. ofc i have scroll reset and if a didint mention some bind its defult. Btw thanks for good video.
Its ok except for your edit bind.
You cant make a peanut butter edit while running at the left since you cant press A.
If you really wanna go optimal, you should edit with your mouse so you dont have to take your fingers off the movement keys.
@@nicolasrodriguez5054 it's hard to change to a mouse button cuz I have a place build on right mouse button
@@truckspot9394 Maybe the dpi button? Or the scroll wheel button?
I use the scroll wheel button to place my floor so its usable
@@nicolasrodriguez5054 ye my scroll whell is hella hard to press unlike my friends mouse. BTW can I add you on fn or nah and you eu or na?
@@truckspot9394 nah bro i play on brazil lmao
Tho if you wanna add me my epic id is
xX420Shiro_616Xx
How much ping is ppl getting on central while in nyc?
Sometimes I get lag spikes that go up to 1100
I get everything its just now im playing safe defensive and my box extra one to escape to with a another box space what do i do now how do i kill him because most will now go for a peanut butter edit or window edit but those for me just make me trade with the guy even the safest of peaks only way i can damage them is suprising them but thats very hard
no matter how high your ping is you get peakers advantage and sometimes right peak/angle advantage so theres no way you just cant safely peak
@superigg_ what mens by that is the delay makes it impossible since reset is not an option and you need to stand still behind the peak before you can even peak since backtrack will allow him to shoot you even if you are behind so it's way to predictable
What if I’m getting 1100 no joke 😢
Uninstall
Hmmmmm is there something for 1200ping?? 😅
OMG
It’s not a 50/50 for taking walls at all I tested this many times I have tested it while being on 60-90 ping against players with an average of 10,20,and 30 ping of which 0/10 did I pull any walls from the 10 ping players 0/10 did I pull any walls from the 20 ping player and 0/10 did I pull the wall from the 30 ping player the only feasible way to consistently take walls on ping above 50 Is to surprise them and 99% of the time it’s just not gonna work so no it is NOT 50/50 and not even 25/75 it’s more like 2/98 chance
It is
This us 200 ping without lag, lag makes it even worst
How to play with high ping under 60 FPS ps4 and delay from kbm?
as a person with a dogshit internet and pc (60 ping with ping spikes and 150 fps with fps drops that go all the way TO 10)
Bro wtf are u saying, don't lie to people retake a wall it is not 50/50. It's determinated by ur ping at the moment. I used to play on 30ping with 1-2% packet loss and i couldn't take any wall, 0. Now im playing on 0 ping with delay optimisation and i can take 80% of wall in a game.
i fortnite made cape town south africa servers i would get 0 - 7 ping instead of 120
Can you do a video for 900+ ping
I have around 120 ping and a crap ton of packet loss
my lowest is 20 and i sometimes get 40 in endgames
omg this is godlike video
7:10 this right here is why high ping sucks
People who live in countries/continents who don't have a server (for me it's egypt)
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yo this too informational to not sub for x.x
I have a tournament later so I watched it
Insane
I’m used to 100 but sometimes mine be at 2000💀
i need this going from 10 to 40
Yea, unfortunately most people will have higher ping now in NA-Central
GOATED
If i get 50 ping ill be so happy 😭
50 ping is high? im sure that everyone thats watching video have 100+ ping
Y deserve a sub
watched this bc im na east but i have a lot of oce friends so i play 230 ping a lot 😭
TRY LIVING IN SOUTHEAST ASIA WHERE WE GETS NO SEA SERVER,PLAYS WITH 0PING JAPANESE WHO COULD TAKES OUR WALL AND PIECE CONTROL US BY THE BLIND OF OUR OWN EYES AND ALWAYS 90PING
They should bring a south east asia server ,it will not only help u but INDIANS,SRILANKANS, PAKISTHANI S AND MORE😢
bro i’m literally champion in ranked and i play 170 ping on a 60hz monitor 😂😂😂
is exitlag allowed?!
Are taking walls still 50/50 even today?
if timed correctly yes
@@jerrytpl stop lying
@@YoCreedgg? I'm not, it's how the game is coded. It's called the coin flip mechanic. If your not getting it 50% of the time, you have bad timing.
@@jerrytpl then explain how timing causes me to have my wall stolen everytime when all I have to do is hold?
@@jerrytpl Ppl like you know nothing I play on 70 ping and always get my wall stolen,shot through my builds(after I placed them) u know nothing
ive had 434 ping is tht possible
I wish i had 50 ping, I run 80 -100 broo
What to do if you have 240 ping 😢
I used to play on 2400 ping
I live in South Africa and we really need a African server
Well far east of russia feels great. 150-160 EU
300+ ASIA wtf they done? It was 20-40
160-240 OC
NA, SA - not intrested, but its high
Now it's absolutely unplayable. Living in asia and can't play normaly on asia
I can’t even edit on 30 ping but 0 ping I can do 12 quad edits
Bro, I would be so happy if I got 30 ping, I would be so much better at this game
dude this video single handedly is the best fortnite info video ever made u are seriously a god thank you i wish i could give you hug or buy you a dinner and kiss you on the mfing lips dayum
R doesnt work right with right
Iv got 70 average ping IT IS not 50 50 on 0 ping they always take my wall when I hold been playing this ping for years to I never hold walls 50 50 to 0 ping EVER
If only they add south african Server…
my average ping is 400 lol
My ping is 645 😢
120 ping South Africa needs servers
My R key for right îs buged
Bruh i would give anything to play on 60 ping even
i get like 1000 to sometimes 50