Okay y'all, it's Oct. 20 2021 and I think I'm gonna start to work on an updated version. It will take time but I really wanna do it. I think I'm gonna rewatch S15 first because I don't remember really well what happened with God 😅... So new video/version in 2022!
Yeah, only if your creation mirrors your failure in life. When I write my stories, I could make sure that no matter how hard and how much suffering the characters undergoes, there's always a sense of hope which the character has. Because that is the sort of person I'm.
Fabiola SPN my favorite line in the show was always “...you mean YOUR failures Chuck...” idk why, it’s just all the emotion that was put behind that line that always sends shivers down my spine.
Alpha Games my favourite was from that scene too. When Metatron is crying and begging God to tell him why he abandoned him and everyone else and Chuck doesn’t even flinch. He doesn’t care at all. No emotion of any kind, Just: “Because you disappointed me. You all disappointed me.” The lack of emotion and the pure apathy of that line delivery is terrifying. What is scarier, a god who hates us, or a god who just doesn’t care about us?
Metatron deserved better than being in the dumpster. Even we all he had was that sandwich he found he gave that poor dog the meat. My heart bleeds for that character
@@truthoftheuniverse4179 unlikely that he's God's son The angels recognize him as god Amara recognize him as god So unless Amara was helping him pretend to be god, or he was able to fool the real God's sister, it's unlikely.
Meta masochism. No doubt you enjoy the show. But do you enjoy or get entertained by their suffering or find it in a way to cope? That's what separates the fan base from the creator.
i feel like chuck was also lying about that. im sure he could whip up a soul in a second, but it didnt fit the story he wanted so he just decided to say he couldnt.
Fighter For Christ you understand that when we talk about god in supernatural, chuck, that we are talking about an undeniable fictional character. personally i am atheist so i don’t care what the bible has to say, but even if i was religious i wouldn’t take offense to the way a FICTIONAL show portrays god. it’s a story. and if you’re so offended why do you spend your time watching supernatural videos and seeking out fans to shit on because we like to theorize about a character?
Yooooo I had a Christ person comment on my supernatural video once telling me I was sinning and stuff. I find these comments hilarious because you’re wasting your breath and maybe you should delete your comment
@Fighter For Christ i am a religious person myself and believe God is just and kind. Though I can watch fictional shows like these and get entertainment. If you wanna bring god into this fictional world then you can say God created supernatural cause he allowed the people involved to be born and live long enough to see this show come to the screen. Clearly he understands entertainment and fiction. Pity most of his followers don't.
This is so meta, Imagine if any character could meet their writer. Robb stark meeting GRR Martin or Harry Potter meeting JK Rowling, the author of all their pain and suffering. How could any character see their writer as anything but a monster?
The difference is J K Rowling helped her good characters overcome their trials. Even in death. Chuck doesn't care where Sam and Dean end up as long as he gets his fun.
or...FitzChivalry meeting Robin Hobb....omfg you want to watch a character get drug through the mud again and again and again...read the Farseer trilogies...
Maybe I'm just excusing a plot hole, but I think maybe Chuck just brought him back right in the moment he died everytime, kinda like the blood splatter effect we see in an early ish episode. Castiel was basically reborn from one drop of his blood at right moment.
@@jackbutt8774 I think he used the term "rebuilt" at that point because he wanted to hide how powerful he truly was. Later on, when they fought Amara, it gave him a reason to say he couldn't bring Raphael back even though he could've done so with one snap. Even the Shadow believed God had no power over the Empty (i.e. could not simply resurrect beings from there) but that turned out to be "sweet little lies" as well. I don't think Chuck actually rebuilt Cass every time but simply pulled him out of the Empty without first waking him up. This meant that the Shadow also never woke up and never realized God's intrusion.
@@chrishowell9821 I have a Christian "friend" who keeps saying that LGBTQ+ people aren't natural and that they can be "fixed" and are going to hell. Im Bi and he know it annoys me when he talks about LGBTQ like that. What happened to loving everyone?
it's funny because real writers are the god of supernatural, but we are some kind of god too. when Sam ask if god is enjoying all..... if god enjoy see them suffering and win... he is also talking to us. The four wall in this season is very thin
Rafael Ferreira I understand your point, but even tho, I don’t want the show to end. Because season 14 was really good, and also I want to watch season 15. And more to come, if it is possible.
God-Chuck acts like a toddler playing with toys. When he tires of them, he abandons them. As a parent, he would be classifed as immature and as an abuser. Immature parents have favorite children and its a form of manipulation for the designated favorite child and a form of abuse for the other children. As a writer, well all writers are gods of the works that they create. All stories need conflicts and God-Chuck was good at setting up conflicts.
@Fighter For Christ This comment is a wild ride until you look at your username and then it all slots into place. Its like you were summoned by a little bell in your head when someone critiques a fictional character on a CW show because they have the same name as your Dude. I haven't heard someone say "blaspheme" in forever my guy its actually kind of really fucking funny Anyways, in response to OP's comment: I think they're really good at highlighting every writer's inner conflict with the titular (to this video) scene where Chuck is REALIZING he's God, or at the very least pretending to. He realizes he's cruel, and capricious, and immature, but THAT'S what makes things entertaining. It's one of the first lessons of writing fiction that any writer learns. Kill your darlings. Rough up your characters. Make it as hard as possible for them to achieve their goals, kick them in the face at every opportunity, but let them grow. That's what makes a good story, good entertainment. But he goes too far, is somehow flawed without his own possession of a soul, and believing that he is infallible and always right. Thus why they have to kill him.
@Fighter For Christ So if people just read the bible, and tried to figure out the missing details, then everything would be better? The dangerous thing about that thought process, is that you can interpret the things to fit your narrative. People have been doing so for centuries. Take the inquisition for example: They read the bible, interpret the "missing details" to their liking, and murdered thousands of people, because of that interpretation. Priests have molested children. The faithful butchered entire cities during the crusades. The churches around the world has extorted and manipulated their communities for many years, and continues to do so, because they think, that they're entitled to it through the "words of God". There are hundreds of different interpretations of the bible in all the different kind of communities and faiths around the world. All you can ever do with those missing details is guess, but without any real proof, you'd end up with your own narrative, and not factual evidence.
@Fighter For Christ ,right,time will come where you going to see his true colors..I was raised and grew up in the Christian establishment where you can’t ask any questions otherwise you’ll be seeing by that guy who dares questioning the authority.”touch but don’t grab it,eat it but don’t swallow it...and when I failed financially,my peeps who were god servant in the church,willing without hesitation to kick me out cause I couldn’t help out anymore and no money...yep,fight for Christ...lol,keep on and hope one day your eyes will open! But I am telling you: study deeply and it’s not worth it
This is a year late, but in the end, Jack was God and barely started being that, so I think reaping him would be unfair. I feel like the whole "reaping God" thing was sort of done by the Billie - version of Death (and therefore also Death), through Jack. If I remember correctly, it was her plan for Jack to get rid of Chuck, so that she could take over. She was doing the reaping indirectly.
"i'll reap god too" pretty sure the "i" stand not for him as a person, but for him as his role, as death and while not shown; yes death will swipe god :p
The human soul is made in God's image. It's the angels that have no true soul. The gods all said, 'let us make man in our image', but God said 'No, man is made in my image." Of course it's going to be wrapped up in a tidy bow at the end. Chuck is a writer and no writer, not even Stephen King who also had the ego to write himself into his own great story, can resist a tidy ending.
heard an interesting theory relating to chuck not actually being the real creator. the theory speculates there originally were three siblings, chuck, amara, and the real god. the real god created, but amara felt that it wasnt necessary to have lower creations. with the two arguing, chuck played the jester and found interest in toying with the creation. chuck (being omnipotent) locked away the real god, blinded amara and the creation for him to rule over. with the real god being locked away presumably in the empty or himself embodiment of the empty. the three siblings can be compared to the hindu gods, brahma (god), vishnu (chuck), shiva (amara). brahma created, vishnu preserves and shiva destroys. all are not associated with benevolence or malevolence for balance must occur
+ihatejairus-You actually just mostly described Gnosticism. The demiurge is the Creator of mankind but is not the true god. The demiurge is impatient, capricious, and petty, and his creations are all subjects to his whims and desires. The real god is a being known as Sophie/a, the creator of light. The demiurge was an imperfect creation who wound up creating imperfect creations. The demiurge, while the Creator of mankind, is actually a "false god". To get to true peace and to accept the true God, the demiurge has to be "overthrown" and Sophie/a accepted as the True God that the demiurge has tried to conceal from humanity. So that would actually make sense if they choose to go about it that way. Chuck is the demiurge. A capricious, petty being seeking out his creations as toys for his whims. The "real God" is somewhere deep in the universe, or locked away by Chuck, like Chuck locked away Amara too. And the "real God" is not perfect either but he/she is very kind and compassionate. Someone who genuinely cares about creation and is distraught on what Chuck has done. It would even be interesting if this "true God" originally created their own world, or created humanity, Chuck obliterated that world the "true God" created or locked "true God" away and plagiarized "true God's" work, deeming himself to be the Father of all creation. Perhaps the angels even if created by Chuck were actually created from "Sophie's" light because Chuck wasn't able to be truly creative. In that potential storyline, Chuck is the new stepfather who forced the real mom/dad to. . ."disappear" and is abusive and merciless to the "children".
Fera Flauna fills in so many holes for me since in my whole experience with supernatural, chuck never played the role of a benevolent nor a directly malevolent being. he's basically a manipulative entity all throughout. so i really believe the theories supporting that chuck isnt really what he portrays to be. chuck must be the "grey" area of the scale. he's not light nor dark, just an ambiguous entity with vague intentions
Ya both completely blew my mind!! Ya basically said what ive felt this whole time concerning chuck but just couldn't put in words or even come up with a concept ,even though thats exactly what ive felt inside,hard to explain..i feel instead of thinking(aspergers) things up..thanks guys so much ,it was elegantly written, beyond perfection! Lets just hope it goes in this direction..or somewhere close. Thatd be cool but 2 episodes left ,it might not be enough time to get into that concept..im still hoping though, thanks guys again for taking the time to write these nice convoluted but thoroughly elaborated theories,much appreciation guys 🙏✌😊
Fera Flauna here is my interpretation, just a little change to what you mentioned.. what if chuck locked away the “real god” but he didn’t destroy the world real god created(or he couldn’t), so he is trying to mess with things in that world(i think our sam and dean’s world is that world, hence they are special compared to other worlds) like introducing plots and starting dominoes (like cupid causing john and mary’s relationship) and the trigger points for apocalypse after apocalypse so that this world destroys itself but even with chuck’s involvement, humanity(basically boys and co) still has real god’s charm(charm/gift/recipe/specialty whatever you wanna call it) and is overcoming his plans for end of world... I think when he said “welcome to the end” in season 14 finale, this is him finally trying to use his deadliest weapon(he probably saved it for the last coz it also has some unknown or wild consequences), whatever that maybe which we will see by series finale... another thought of mine is chuck keeps trying to build all those other world after worlds to satisfy his ego that he can do as good a job, if not better, as “real god” in creating a special world like our sam and dean’s, but he keeps failing, which i think also intrigues him to observe our sam and dean’s world, hence his “favorite show”.... I also think thats one of the reasons he could destroy those other worlds easily like we saw in S15 but not ours (exception is he mentioned some worlds take longer time than others, and that’s probably coz his observations helped him get somewhat closer to original world while creating those other worlds but still failures and hence take some more effort and time than others to end them)... Also, I like the idea of Empty being the real god- like chuck locking him away means making him sleep somehow forever and avoid him being an obstacle, but while trying to bring back Castiel from empty, he messed with it too much somehow unknowingly causing Empty to wake up and thats where the Death and Empty’s union and their try to end God comes in... before I end, I also thought of something while writing this comment, which is again just a theory, that Death is also one of the siblings (or Chuck somehow separated real god in to two entities- Empty and Death as part of his locking away), hence Death has the capacity to reap God at the end & the split caused mask some of his memories and so, death didn’t remember who is older- him or chuck, which could also be the reason why he doesn’t remember the split, and Empty waking up triggered the dominoes for the union and Chuck’s end and Jack is their/his (death+empty or real god) ultimate weapon which could also be the reason why chuck was afraid of Jack in S14 and tried to make Dean kill him or why he killed him at the end.. woah.. a long one 😄
What if The Shadow in the Empty is the true God? More ancient than Chuck, Amara and Death, custodian of everything that has ceased to exist or yet to exist. Chuck, being the writer he is, rewrote something and put the Shadow to sleep in the Empty, and took over. Chuck keeps saying he is a writer. He didn't create the parchments on which he writes on. He dictates the narrative but didn't create the book.
I think this must be the most meta show ever, with a brilliant storyline brought about exclusively by a hand-me-down storyline depending on season renewal orders.
@@dLzzzgaming Did you see the 'I think' there? It means he's expressing his opinion on the matter. HIS thoughts. Disagreed with that? Cool, then you got a different opinion.
@@dell988 Why did you come in and bash someone "expressing his opinion" by defending the original person for "expressing their opinion"... Bit hypocritical my guy.
@@azuraug8693 Except that person say 'it's really not' like it's a fact. That's not expressing an opinion, despite what you might think. Also, asking why I am doing something is a bit weird. After all, it is a public comment section. Anyways, have a good day/night/morning, and stay cool.
6:20-7:34 even though Uriel was bad, he even knew from the beginning that Chuck isn't what he says he is anymore. And that he doesn't care. Joshua knew too
The way you edited this and did the flashbacks of past episodes and old characters warning the brothers of how cruel God was and h9w he gave up on us and didn't care to intervene he just sat back and watched us fail.. (That was a great touch to the editing!) "I created the sandbox, you guys just get to play in it.." -Chuck
And that's exactly why he didn't take responsibility for Lucifer's downfall: Lucifer is essentially the embodiment of the things God doesn't like about himself. How? -Lucifer is a narcissistic brat with violent and manipulative tendencies who throws tantrums anytime things don't go his way and abandons those who are not useful to him. This description is also applied to God as well. Lucifer resembles his Father in more ways than one.
When death said that he would reap "God" too , I didn't take it seriously , but now knowing that the real Death is dead (as ironic as it sounds ) i kinda wish he was still here , it would ve been a lot more intresting to see him do it , than Billie , I like her , but the first actor would be a lot better if he himself did reap "God"
Death is not "Dead" Billie became the New Death, Death can't died. The forst Death was a personification of it and Billie became the new personification. So Death is still "Alive"
I agree. I liked the guy who played Death. He was sassy and seemed really like how Death would act/do. I know it sounds hilarious but I loved Death (as a character obviously) 😬
I really miss Julian Ritchings as Death. I enjoyed some of the narrative beat involved in killing Death, but he was so damn iconic in the role. And honestly I miss Dean's ritual of appeasing Death's potential ire by feeding him tasty treats. Like, literally he just - pre-empts the ire by being like, "No, see, tasty food! Imagine what offering of tasty food you might get next time if you let me survive this encounter, O Death! Just focus on the tasty treats, and the potential that if you don't reap my ass there could be more tasty treats next time!" And Death vaguely menaces that this time, he's totally done with this bullshit - while digging into the tasty treat. Did the human fetch a sufficiently tasty treat to justify this rank bullshit disrespect toward a primordial force like myself? ...yes, yes this is a tasty treat. Well, obviously the human is going to, ridiculously, summon me, The Death, again and obviously he's been trained to fetch me tasty treats so. Eh, I guess I'll go with this ridiculousness, let him live, and see what he fetches me next time. It's not like any of my reapers are fetching me tasty treats, and let's be real, none of them would have the first clue what even makes for especially tasty treats in the first place, they'd just bring me random terrible crap whereas this here is a fellow connoisseur of Tasty Treats. I'm not the biggest fan of loosing the orginal Death, but I do love how Dean in the episode just - is like, okay, the right atmosphere, an imposingly abandoned of all actual life restaurant related to the food: check. Choosing the menu of the right tasty treats: check. Personally preparing said tasty treats, to ensure it's both Extra Special this time and as tasty as possible given Death seems to share his exact taste in food: check. Time to summon Death again! (Also, I love how after exactly one encounter Dean is like: food. Bring Death offerings of tasty food. If nothing else, I know Death is into food - his priority when forced to extinguish an entire city was getting his pizza fix before said pizza went extinct. And it was specifically pizza, not BS 5-star michellin 7 course artisinal whatever, so Death's into the tastiest samplings specifically of regular people food. We all may be less than bacteria as far as Death is concerned - but the food. When all the people vanish so does the food. If I bring Death offerings of tasty, tasty food, I will have added +1 to Death's net assessment of the encounter. And lo, on the next encounter he nervously offers food, is menaced while Death munches said food - and survives the encounter. Dean concludes: I have found the secret lore for appeasing Death, and it's offerings of food. I like to envision that Death is like, hmm. In the entire extremely long span of existence, no one's actually fetched the food for me. This spec of less-than-a-bacteria following (1) encounter fetched me tasty, tasty food. This - this is an amusing spec. What a novel, amusing little spec. This (1) spec can continue being a spec. It literally induces it's own death willy-nilly to arrange meet-and-greets with my hench people, and calls upon the primordial personication of Death itself with nothing but offerings of food as a vain gesture tilting at the windmill of surviving the encounter. Yes, this spec can be tolerated so long as it continues to understand that fetch had better be happening and what is fetched is sufficiently tasty.) GDI, I'm sorry Billie but you just weren't as fun as the original flavor Death. Julian Ritchings' Death just had this menacing yet absurdist je ne sais quoi that really fit a primordial whose remit has basically been: there's a job that needs to get done, and that's ending shit. A being as old as time, dedicated essentially to a task of drudgery. Chuck was a bored sociopath with an ant farm, Amara was sealed away, and all of it was high octane drama. Chuck literally could not be bothered if he wasn't being drip fed his perfect entertainment. Death was just like, nah, I got my niche. And that niche was... being consistently neutrally involved in, like, just a basic maintenance operation for all of existence. Not endlessly seeking entertainment or an ego-fluff. Just: yep, I'm Death, gotta keep the whole death thing going. Chuck, again, was a bored sociopath with an ant farm. Death was just like, eh. This food innovation, that's nice. That'll be my approximation of a vice. I... like food. That's a vice, right? This is how vices work? (Meanwhile Chuck is in the background clubbing baby seals and drowning puppies for little kicks of dopamine.) Yeah, food seems like... a real wild thing me to care about. (Random brutal pipe murder in the background, orphans screaming. Chuck pauses to strum a guitar, peeks in on the Angels: ah yeah, that's it, that scratches the itch - pure adulation and worship of how awesome I am even in my total absence as they tear each other apart in a thousand terrible ways in the conviction that if they just keep beating any trace of not totally-blind-adoration-of-God out of each other, and stick to that totally awesome plan I gave them of annihilating each other and the planet, they still think I'll deffo return and reward them and tell them how much I love them back for how much they love, adore and perpetuate blind loyalty to me, a thing I literally created them to do, totes find, I'm deffo on your side, angels, and not at all exploiting you for the sweet hits of delicious poetic suffering you give me as you worship the cause of your suffering. That really hit the spot. Mmm. (brief pause) Bored now! Back to orchestrating new and tastier kinds of suffering for my amusement!) Humans: (composing music about how awesome Chuck is while killing each other over disputes about who he loves the most) (wailing at the carnage, terrified of dying and of their loved ones dying) (decide with some angelic influence that Chuck'll grant them eternal life, freeing them from the the tyranny of Death because that's deffo the source of the suffering) Chuck: (delicately engineers a 10 generation cycle of trauma and self-destruction, spends a little time planet-side to get to know the family so he can get a front row seat to his narrative brilliance and maybe personally make a few tragic tweaks to the story in person for that personal touch) Amara: (trapped, pure rage at Chuck) The Empty: (totally silent but not actually empty, filled with the totally subsumed masses of sentient feeling beings plunged into a simulation of non-existence, but only a simulation, because what it Chuck needs to resurrect one for a nice narrative beat? They could actual just not exist anymore, but what if them suffering more would make for a kickass story and so Chuck needed them? And so: untold numbers of people suspended in simulated non-existence, because nothing at all can be allowed to permanently escape Chuck's toybox) Death: ...guess I'll just have some fried rice and void gaze for a while. Spend some time with a nice, non-sentient star cluster that's gonna be obliterated but, you know, for real. I definitely never think at all about that one day reaping God thing. No idea why that would be on my mind while talking to a spec later. Really, really into this whole rice being fried with sauce and leftovers innovation, I do love this tasty food. That is in no way dependent on Chuck not destroying all the humans in a fit of pique. My one day reaping God is just a Fun Fact I like to drop like a gumball into the rare conversation. It just randomly pops into my head in the flow of conversation and out it comes. With just a little hint of a smile. I have no real attachment to this fact, obviously. Just, eating my delicious fried rice.
@Fighter For Christ sorry but I don't try understanding what doesn't exist :-/ i read Bible , Karan and few other books of other religions and all i see are lies that are made to control others... To turn men into loyal sheep... So , hear words of science , i hope it is not to late for lost like you to understand that there is only knowledge you can prove , no believe but fact , no miracle but merely a chance that happened but could have not .... One day all religions will be burned off like poison they are in humanities veins and all left will be memories of fools to laugh at as we will stand as rave amongst the stars knowing that we can be and will be more powerful and wise than any god we ever were to create in past it being big G , Zeus or any other... Have nice time of the day or night and let science guide human kind .
@Fighter For Christ hmm not bad but those pretty old and somewhere even fake materials are far from impressive . Cutting additional facts out of context doesn't help either.... And in addition i too can say that few concepts in other religions go well with science because first scientists appeared in religions . It did good and bad but it is lie made by men who wanted to control and those who didn't understand how things work.... In our days it is fifth will in humanities car , waste of place , resources and time , plus huge loss of human power.... So agree or not . All those videos and quotes didn't do anything but sadly wasted my time .
@Fighter For Christ NO FUN ZONE NO FUN ZONE NO FUN ZONE NO FUN ZONE NO FUN ZONE NO FUN ZONE NO FUN ZONE NO FUN ZONE NO FUN ZONE NO FUN ZONE NO FUN ZONE
I kind of miss the old Chuck, before the showrunners decided he was the bad guy. Chuck from Season 5, or even 11. A flawed, very “human” portrayal of a divine creator, who’s as along for the ride as the rest of the characters. The ending was originally going to take place in Season 5. Chuck was not planned as the villain originally. Hell, the Darkness plot felt like it was going to be a pretty good ending, with God accepting his mistakes and taking action finally. Not like this.
MrImastinker I’m pretty sure if they ended it all in season 5, God would have been revealed to be Cas, not Chuck, but alas. And yeah, even before everything, Chuck was already a major douche with the Archangels and Amara so him being a spoiled brat isn’t really out of the blue for me
@@n.k.nguyen4255 Actually Chuck was already confirmed to be God in season 5. After filming that season, it was reavealed that the writers asked Chuck's actor how it felt to play the role of God in an interview.
Aly Alice I mean if season 5 was like the definitive end, no more new season, I’m pretty sure the producers might have chosen for Cas to be God instead of Chuck
He was evil even then, it just didn’t point out in the light. Having gone back and rewatched...the times Chuck influences things. He designed the Apocalypse, I mean he literally planned it out ahead of time. He wanted people to make those choices, those bad ones that kept the danger constant. Which means he wanted Mary to burn, Sam to drink demon blood and break the seal. He wanted conflict and pain. It wasn’t until his twisted shit kicked him in the ass in the form of Amara coming up that set him back. Chuck is exactly the kind of person he looked like when they first met him. A weak willed person eaten by insecurities and covering for his faults by playing God. Human Chucks own words were he wrote the series for entertainment. He finds all that misery entertaining. Evil God Chuck says the exact same thing. Dude. You just never saw it.
@Fighter For Christ Honestly stop posting this. Its fictional. Every comment on here is talking about it from a fictional point of view. If it offends you so much don't watch it. People have different beliefs so you shouldn't comment on a (amazingly edited and put together) video on something that is pure fiction. Its people's decisions to believe what they want to believe. Take other people into consideration
I always wondered why God thought that Dean would kill Jack, when Dean has never been able to hurt his kids or those he considers his. Do questionable things to ensure their safety, sure... But when it came to Ben, Emma, Bobby John, Claire, Jack, and especially Sam(And Sam is absolutely his kid), this Dean has never has never been that kind of person. Chuck really never paid attention to his main character like he should.
This is just speculation, but maybe Chuck - after creating countless worlds, seeing countless of lives - just figured that - since Michael would have killed Lucifer, Cain killed Abel, Abraham was ready to kill Isaac - being close to someone wouldn't matter that much in the end. Perhaps Chuck also saw parts of himself in Dean, so he concluded that they would act similar. Chuck never really cared about his family, his solution to being mad at someone is trying to get rid of them, so why - in his mind - would Dean act different?
I’m just watching the episodes chuck was in season four.. Man that actor did a good job playing a dead beat author because I never expected him to be God.
They knew he was going to be God all along. They showed that at the end of season 5 when he wisps away into thin air. The actor who plays Chuck knew before season 5 as the writers asked him, "how does it feel to be playing God?"
THIS IS EPIC!!! I've been thinking about God as a character lately, too. I actually started rewatching the series after the season 14 finale, because it changed the whole show and I've been writing down all of Chuck's influences and intentions on TFW. (The document has now well over 10 000 words and you managed to come to the same conclusion about God and his power and his influence in just over 10 minutes!). Your edit just perfectly sums up and explores God's storyline and how it's woven its way through the entirety of the show. You did amazing and remarkable work showing and explaining such a complex and multifaced character! I had goosebumps all over and tears in my eyes the entire lenght of the video. You can be proud of yourself!
@Fighter For Christ I think what you see today is a cultural shift towards authority figures. Go back fifty years and authority figures were to be trusted implicitly, never questioned or doubted. Look at the world today and you the expectation is that authority figures are not to be trusted, selfish, indifferent and corrupt. Government scandals, money hungry corporations, celebrity affairs, children entertainers being revealed as pedeophiles, embezellment ,fraud and corruption. This isn't about "God" this is about how in our world we assume any human with power is abusing it.
@Fighter For Christ You are the hypocrite Jesus was talking about when he said, "And when thou prayest, thou shalt not be as the hypocrites. are: for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and. in the corners of the streets, that they may be seen of men." You don't care about spreading the message or converting sinners. You care about being righteous and telling other people they are wrong for not being like you. Go away. Edit: I just wanted to add a couple things. People aren't more anything now than they were at any other time. The difference is information. We have the ability to learn about any and everything that happens in the world within seconds. We have information fed to us from the time we wake up to the time we go to bed. In the 1950's, as mattwho81 says, they got news from the paper, the radio, and some from TV. As well as just general information from talking to one another. Go back 100 years and the printed word is what tells people things. Anytime before that and it's all word of mouth basically. Some of the more educated were able to get info from letters and books but unless you were a king you weren't getting anything in a timely way. Wars were still be fought after they had ended, for example. People could only be told things at the speed of the fastest horse or messenger pigeon. Now? You know everything as quickly as you want to know it. There's a fire on the other side of the country? Someone has filmed it on their phone and posted it on Facebook or Twitter. News travels faster than you can take it in. There's nothing new about human behavior. Nothing. It's only that we get to see that behavior more quickly and more often. With this many people in the world versus how many there were in the past, of course, there is going to be more of every type of behavior. That's how statistics work. Every group of Christians since Jesus died has said it's the end days. Every single one. They've none been right. It's also stated in the bible, clear as day, that no one knows when the end of days is but the Father. "But about that day or hour no one knows, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father. So, if even Jesus doesn't know when the world will end, I'm guessing that you don't know either. So, umm, relax. Quit trying to be special and righteous. You're neither. You're a sinner just like the rest of us. No better no worse.
@Fighter For Christ "But about that day or hour no one knows, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father." I know exactly what you're doing. I'm sorry if you don't. Maybe do some self-reflection if it's not clear as day.
@@truthoftheuniverse4179 EXACTLY. Existence is nothing but a mutation. "Let there be light". Also the reason THE DESTROYER exist. Yin and Yang. All that.
Emma Gross Emmma idk but this show is Demonic it potrays God as evil when he’s not God is Good that’s why he died for us on the cross. If there’s one thing you take from this is that God loves you that’s why your alive breathing rn.... and turn to him before it’s to late and he destroys you for your evil ways. Pray and repent accept Jesus as lord and you will be saved from the punishment we all deserve for sins
I would not call it an interpretation of the Christian concept of God. SPN takes a story like the Bible's stories and puts a dark twist on them. Also, any character or creature that is more powerful than humans are often monsters or can become monsters. God-Chuck being the ultimate powerful being would naturally turn dark in SPN world. It was just a matter of time and this being the last season for SPN, it was appropriate that God-Chuck would create the final Apocolypse.
@@syndicate2ify Its a clever take on mythology, not a Christian vision of God. And didnt jesus die on the cross, not God? And what evil ways are you talking about lmao. And about accepting God into my heart, no thanks, im good.
No commentary, no trying to convince the viewers, no dialog other that editing scenes from the series for us to see the path of the character (Chuck/God) thru several viewpoints from the other players....Well Done, WELL DONE INDEED 🤙🏾
You sure know your stuff by combining all these older clips together...i do not know if the writters always intented for god to turn out a villain or if they made it up along the way but either way when you watch this older clips it makes sense
You know, I never even noticed this "mistake" that you mention up above. This video illustrates a perfect vision of this imperfect God. I never fully grasped Chuck's character as a whole because of His absences, (which is part of the role I'm sure) but this truly revealed the nature of God. Its my favorite SPN video on TH-cam 💯
I really REALLY hope that the show ends with God turning out to just be playing a role in his own story as the final villain. I hope he grants them all either a place in Heaven or the whole family back alive with the show ending on all 4 of them in the shot of the car trunk with Sam saying "We got work to do"
The souls are complicated even for me is a really bad lie, what he should have said was something like, "Because Jack is on the level of a Cosmic Entity, I can't restore his soul without serious consequences." He would then go on to say something like, "I use part of my energy to keep the Universe running, but if I where to restore Jacks soul, I couldn't keep the Universe running." Or really any excuse to back it up, or saying, "I would be too exhausted, and Death, Amaura, or the Empty would take the chance to kill me." Really for God being confirmed to be able to literally grant himself pretty much any ability he wants, (French, Guitar, Singing, etc.) he's pretty bad at lying.
I've been watching criminal minds a lot recently and they always say that serial killers tend to inject themselves into the investigation. It always reminds me of Chuck writing himself into supernatural :/ Also, this edit is sO COOL!! Good job!!!
Chuck may be the most complex interpretation of "God" as a character. Chuck is a "God" character who didnt want to be God anymore. It would have been interesting to see a flashback of Chuck/God at key points of Genesis: creating everything, the fall of Lucifer, the disobedience of Adam and Eve ect. It would be interesting to see when he truly gave up and decided to become "Chuck". That clip of Chuck before we knew he was God and he "discovered his gifts" he literally talks about himself, where he calls himself a "cruel and capricious God". I know the direction of the show didnt originally have Chuck go this way, but its an interesting circle of Chuck describing "God" as someone who must be horrible, and he ends up being horrible. You could write an entire thesis on Chuck/God.
Its because of free will. Being omnipotent is boring so he writes stories to pass the time. A narcissist created something he can't control to take part in and see if he can control anyways. He doesn't care about the results, it's just one of his many stories. This is the one instance, the one story.. that he hasn't been able to control. It fascinates and frustrates him.
One thing I dont really like is how they brought Jack back, and how he's gonna be the key to deafeating God. Jack has been used as a get out of jail free card ever since he first arrived. I would have liked to see their final test be without their big crutch. Just Sam, Dean, and Cas, who have been together since season 4
Chuck is just being a Real God. When you live so long like a planet you won't care how human live their life. Whatever they suffer , it doesn't really matter to a god who borned before the sun formed.
Tbh, I wouldn't be surprised if God is actually like this in real life, if he actually exists. Either he created us and is either disappointed at us and he left in response to that, or he simply lost interest in us, and then moved on to do something else, or he is just manipulating people's lives for his own amusement. Sure, you can talk all day about all the good things that happened supposedly because of God, but in the end, there is a long history of truely evil stuff that happened on this earth, and God either did nothing to stop them, or he intentionally caused them, and whatever "lessons" he is trying to teach us through these horrible stuff? It's not worth it. Every good parent should actively intervene when his children are acting in a bad way, and I'm not talking about working through other people, I mean taking a personal action, that leaves no doubt that God is involved.
Well he would be imposing on free will if he intervened, he wouldn’t be letting us create our own path and make our own choices. He actively intervened many times if we go by the Bible even gave us a whole book on how not to be jerks, it’s not his fault that we don’t listen. So now he’s letting us do our own thing because obviously him intervening has not changed anyone’s attitude. Also every bad things that happened was because of humans not God, and we don’t know to what extent he may have intervened since we don’t know what his intervention would look like, like he can be the reason why the Nazis lost the war.
I remember back in season 6 thinking how crazy it would be if after all these years God was the true villain of the story, now look at us, who would’ve thought
Adding to what Scythe papa and Fera Flauna commented, here is my interpretation, just a little change to what they mentioned.. what if chuck locked away the “real god” but he didn’t destroy the world real god created(or he couldn’t), so he is trying to mess with things in that world(i think our sam and dean’s world is that world, hence they are special compared to other worlds) like introducing plots and starting dominoes (like cupid causing john and mary’s relationship) and the trigger points for apocalypse after apocalypse so that this world destroys itself but even with chuck’s involvement, humanity(basically boys and co) still has real god’s charm(charm/gift/recipe/specialty whatever you wanna call it) and is overcoming his plans for end of world... I think when he said “welcome to the end” in season 14 finale, this is him finally deciding to use his deadliest weapon(he probably saved it for the last coz it also has some unknown or wild consequences), whatever that maybe which we will see by series finale... another thought of mine is chuck keeps trying to build all those other world after worlds to satisfy his ego that he can do as good a job, if not better, as “real god” in creating a special world like our sam and dean’s, but he keeps failing, which i think also intrigues him to observe our sam and dean’s world, hence his “favorite show”.... I also think thats one of the reasons he could destroy those other worlds easily like we saw in S15 but not ours (exception is he mentioned some worlds take longer time than others, and that’s probably coz his observations helped him get somewhat closer to original world while creating those other worlds but still failures and hence take some more effort and time than others to end them)... Also, I like the idea of Empty being the real god- like chuck locking him away means making him sleep somehow forever and avoid him being an obstacle, but while trying to bring back Castiel from empty, he messed with it too much somehow unknowingly causing Empty to wake up and thats where the Death and Empty’s union and their attempt to end God comes in... before I end, I also thought of something while writing this comment, which is again just a theory, that Death is also one of the siblings (or Chuck somehow separated real god in to two entities- Empty and Death as part of his locking away), hence Death has the capacity to reap God at the end & the split caused mask some of his memories and so, death didn’t remember who is older- him or chuck, which could also be the reason why he doesn’t remember the split, and Empty waking up triggered the dominoes for the union and Chuck’s end and Jack is their/his (death+empty or real god) ultimate weapon which could also be the reason why chuck was afraid of Jack in S14 and tried to make Dean kill him or why he killed him at the end.. woah.. a long one 😄. Edit: writing this comment, I forgot what I actually wanted to say, @Fabiola SPN- that was an awesome edit and sums up Chuck perfectly 👌🏻👏🏻🙌🏻 you got yourself another subscriber
Or this is all my Atheist brain still trying to make sense of the myth that “real God” is all loving and good.. 🤪 May be Chuck is just a case of God being similar to Dr.Manhattan like @Travis Touchdown mentioned in one of the comments 😉
Another observation, Chuck probably despises real “God” (in my interpretation )or his old self when he was all loving God/creator(which he probably thought was naive and weak, in Travis Touchdown’s interpretation) so much so that’s why he said “DON’T USE THE G WORD” when he was addressed as God..
I don't think Chuck is God. Lol.... I think Chuck is a powerful entity but NOT God. Exhibit A: Chuck feared Jacks existence. Why would God fear anything when he could just write it out of the story. Exhibit B: The REAPER SAID HE WOULD REAP GOD AS WELL eventually so if God can die then he's not really God... So I'm thinking... Maybe Chuck is a vessel of God just like the reapers are vessels of Death.
I don 't really know about the reap god part cause maybe death had it wrong but god isn't really scared of jack I think I think it would be more accurate to say he is scared that Jack destroys his world's like some virus in his computer which he wishes go get rid of.
NerdGirl72 these are just your preconceptions about “God” and the nature of omnipotence. Has it occurred to you that on some level maybe god “ Wants” to die? If he can really do anything that should include killing himself as well. And outside of that hes not really written to be truly omnipotent in the show anyways, just really close to it
'Preconceptions about God'. Exactly. This recurring 'Chuck isn't God' argument seems to me to be based on people's idea that the being who created the universe can't be morally fallible because the universe isn't. But the truth is that any being, even the creator of the universe, has subjective morality and can do evil things. The indifferent universe and its creator are different things.
He feared Jack because if Jack came to terms with his power, as a nephilim, he would be one to rule his power as a writer. If Jack could control his powers, he would become an equal existence.
Yeah, but as Billy said, to create perfect story, he had to "WRITE HIMSELF INTO THE STORY". That means, that even if he is a god, then he is subjected to the story and that was his own choice. That means, that change of the story can and will affect him. Billie also said, it was his only weakness. And Jack was part of his story, till he killed him. That means, he was removed from the story and he was returned to that world(not story, cause these beings "cover" him) by beings equally if not more powerfull than him. Also Jack was returned after god departed and, as Sam and Dean discovered in apocalypse world, if he departs, it means he "ended your story", he essentialy stop watching your world(story). Billie also said, that his book, in the death's library, where everyone has each variation of death, god's book "showed" only after he created this story. So it means, that, by his own choice, by choice to write himself story, created an only possible way how to kill him.
My mom is super religious and finds this version of God offensive. I'm like, "Mom, this it pretty much taken straight out of the Bible, which is a book you believe in and live your life by." lol Awesome vid. Can't say I personally like God/Chuck because he's kind of an ass, but I still think he's an 'interesting' character.
I am waiting for a big reveal in the upcoming episodes. Even I am not convinced that they are going to kill God. They are making us feel that they are going to but I am sure that would just be stupid and anti climatic.
I think the reason why Sam and Dean are God favorite is because Chuck look at Sam and Dean on image that he and sister Amara should be. Instead his true image that he does see of himself and maybe Amara is that of Jack. This is why he created so many earth's, so many different universes. Those universe are phases that God might saw himself but in the end were "failed" experiments universes. I wouldn't be surprise that the Original death as been with God in the very beginning. Seeing God create and then gets bored of his own toys that he create because he saw a small single flaw. A great example of that Leviathan. He made countless of other worlds. Even worlds where Sam and Dean are not even born. Look how he left that universe too. Until he create world with two extraordinary brothers that would do anything to lived there life with freedom and fight against not only Lucifer and his demons but the other angels themselves. Even rebel against him. Which makes God like the boys even more.
I really hope that they introduce the likes of Erebus, Nyx, and Gaia/Gaea siblings who are also believed to be the first beings in the universe, Erebus, Darkness, Nyx, the Night, a shadow figure, and Gaea/Gaia, Earth, and Life. Though I do have a theory, Ereubus was described as "Born out of the primeval void", so perhaps he was already introduced as The Empty, but he is also the complete personification of Darkness, so it can also be argued that Amara was based upon him or based upon Nyx "Nyx is the Greek goddess (or personification) of the night. A shadowy figure, Nyx stood at or near the beginning of creation" It would be awesome to see those three if there is a Season 16 as they are as old as God, Amara, and Death so they can be explained as just as powerful. They could be the next big bads, or one could show to help fight Chuck.
Jeez, how come I never watched this before? This is one the best videos on Supernatural. Such an elaborate and precise editing on Chuck/God. Loved it. Anyone who has missed or forgotten pr couldn't understand Chuck's role must watch it. Kudos to you girl.❤️
this is FANTASTIC, have to say..amazing work..very high level quality..shows you how much God is the main villain in this show..has me rooting for original DEATH to come and reap him
It's so clear to anyone watching this that Chuck is the unsung hero of this show. Maligned and hated, everyone wants him to just snap his fingers and give them what they want... but no one understands WHY he's done this or what it means. He's said it plain as day.. "it's about free will and choice." Anyone who thinks he's a bad guy has never written anything before. As a writer, I totally understand him and the whole Supernatural narrative.... and it's beautiful.
I like the idea of the characters rebelling against their own writer for making them suffer because we humans would do the same. Chuck could of just left and never intervene again but instead decided to destroy and start From scratch which is a perfect analogy for how writings works
@Al3xh413 I don't think anyone mentioned morality. We are not dealing with our own world... we are dealing with a world in which GOD actually exists. HE decides what is moral. He created it all. He has that right. In our world, the real world, you are correct though. However, I will point out that taking a step back, the lamb population needs to be kept under control or disease would run rampant, they'd eat all available food sources or whatever... so man does help the lamb by eating it. We also keep them from going extinct by keeping them as a food source. So yes, you are totally correct bout morality being relative.
@Al3xh413 I don't think you understand the difference. In the real world, nature is the guiding force. There is no one responsible for the creation and formation of the universe. The only true things are mathematics. But in a universe literally created by a God (and NO, I do not believe in one) that god is supreme in all things. He writes the very code of reality, the forces of nature and the nature of free will. It is almost unimaginable to people who have working brains... but in that world, morality and the word to describe it are all HIS creations. So he does have final say in what is good. It's not about waving a gun around. It's that he created it. Let's put it this way... in comic books, Superman gets his strength from the sun and can fly and shoot lasers. This isn't possible in reality. But in that comic book universe people can also have rings that let them make green holograms. They have gods who do all manner of nonsense and a man dressing up like a Bat, defying the laws of physics with his gadgets. That's because they created that world and they say what goes. Same in a god created world. NOT ours. A god created one. I believe you were thinking of our reality with god inserted... not what a reality would be like if it were actually created by god. Logic is what HE says it is there.
@Al3xh413 you have a great point and you may be correct after all. If their creation can conceive of a type of morality that defies their creator's, then that is a kind of "multiversal" standard of morality... from our perspective. But I think of it this way: If you decorate your house with penises and shag carpeting on the walls, who is to tell you that you are wrong? Chuck created his own worlds, his own people and his own system. That's HIS house. He is GOD there. Who is to tell him that he is wrong? He could be performing an experiment to get Sam and Dean to finally take responsibility for humanity and walk their own moral path. He may be trying to make great television. Who knows? It's HIS creation. If I make a child, it isn't really my property. I didn't really "make" it. I just helped bring it into life. Chuck literally made Same and Dean's whole universe. They're his property. So if you're playing with your toys, who is to tell you that GiJoe can't play with Skeletor? You make those decisions as god of your playroom.
Yeah, out of everything that happened in the finale, Chuck's ending is poetic. He loses his power and control and has to live as a nobody mortal. Perfect end for a narcissist like him.
I started watching SN on TNT and eventually started watching on Netflix. Have watch every season 4 times now and still cant get enough. Love the story line and characters, especially Rowena and Charlie. I also love the fact that I have lived in Sioux Falls, SD for almost 50 years so Jodi and Bobby have a special place in my heart. Also the car "baby" is a '67 which is the year i was born. I was born in Wichita, KS and Sam and Dean are from Lawrence, KS. If it would be possible to be a part of the last few episodes to be made in the final season, i would find that to be an ultimate life experience to watch that happen. Are you reading Eric Kripke or Robert Singer?
OMG Thank you so much for this awesome experience!!!♡♡♡♡ Chuck is not only a villian, Hes in fact: "the monster at the end of the book" Ironic enough that he appears in the end of Fanfiction whichs core story is about a monster that consumes good storys..just think about it..... Maybe Chuck has made this out to be a self-ironic-reference Or hes in fact living from the story: Maybe epic storys are the only thing keeping him focused on who he is, because without them he would be lost in delirium of being everything and everyone at the same time but he couldnt contain himself anymore.
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Okay y'all, it's Oct. 20 2021 and I think I'm gonna start to work on an updated version. It will take time but I really wanna do it. I think I'm gonna rewatch S15 first because I don't remember really well what happened with God 😅... So new video/version in 2022!
I can't wait 👍🏻👍🏻
Is the updated version still happening
@@timramis7607 Not at the moment, I'm sorry. But I really wanna make it one day...
As a writer, my worst nightmare would be meeting my characters. Chuck shows it perfectly.
The physical beatings alone...
Yeah, only if your creation mirrors your failure in life.
When I write my stories, I could make sure that no matter how hard and how much suffering the characters undergoes, there's always a sense of hope which the character has. Because that is the sort of person I'm.
lol thats wild!
Metatron was actually a good character when he was talking to chuck before the fight with Amara
Yes!
Definitely! I really like that part of his character.
Fabiola SPN my favorite line in the show was always “...you mean YOUR failures Chuck...” idk why, it’s just all the emotion that was put behind that line that always sends shivers down my spine.
Alpha Games my favourite was from that scene too. When Metatron is crying and begging God to tell him why he abandoned him and everyone else and Chuck doesn’t even flinch. He doesn’t care at all. No emotion of any kind, Just:
“Because you disappointed me. You all disappointed me.”
The lack of emotion and the pure apathy of that line delivery is terrifying. What is scarier, a god who hates us, or a god who just doesn’t care about us?
Metatron deserved better than being in the dumpster. Even we all he had was that sandwich he found he gave that poor dog the meat. My heart bleeds for that character
The whole "we're your favourite show" thing is getting really meta.
Feeling kind of attacked.
CASTIEL WAS A REAL GOD
CHUCK DID NOT GIVE A RAT ASS.
IS CHUCK GOD OR HIS SON THAT HATE GOD
@@truthoftheuniverse4179 unlikely that he's God's son
The angels recognize him as god
Amara recognize him as god
So unless Amara was helping him pretend to be god, or he was able to fool the real God's sister, it's unlikely.
Meta masochism. No doubt you enjoy the show. But do you enjoy or get entertained by their suffering or find it in a way to cope? That's what separates the fan base from the creator.
What does meta mean in this context?
@@kaungkyaw465 meta in his context is viewing Supernatural as mere entertainment. Just like Chuck does.
Imagine your creations in The Sims know your existence and now rebel you when you trying to debug the game.
That's all we are, characters in God's game. Dreamt about that last night, was very strange but cool though
Oh yeah, I'm not even religious
Imagine Sim plotting to kill you by partnering up with someone from the real world, in supernatural case (Death and Empty)
Oh my god...
We're the Chuck's of the Sims!
We're the villain!
Satan might be the devil but God , he is the ultimate devil , the Ultimate deceiver
Alec Daniel I took the red pill
Chuck: Souls are... complicated.
One snek in the garden of eden: hey kid... u want ur soul back?
i feel like chuck was also lying about that. im sure he could whip up a soul in a second, but it didnt fit the story he wanted so he just decided to say he couldnt.
Lmfao this comment
Fighter For Christ you understand that when we talk about god in supernatural, chuck, that we are talking about an undeniable fictional character. personally i am atheist so i don’t care what the bible has to say, but even if i was religious i wouldn’t take offense to the way a FICTIONAL show portrays god. it’s a story.
and if you’re so offended why do you spend your time watching supernatural videos and seeking out fans to shit on because we like to theorize about a character?
Yooooo I had a Christ person comment on my supernatural video once telling me I was sinning and stuff. I find these comments hilarious because you’re wasting your breath and maybe you should delete your comment
@Fighter For Christ i am a religious person myself and believe God is just and kind. Though I can watch fictional shows like these and get entertainment.
If you wanna bring god into this fictional world then you can say God created supernatural cause he allowed the people involved to be born and live long enough to see this show come to the screen.
Clearly he understands entertainment and fiction. Pity most of his followers don't.
This is so meta, Imagine if any character could meet their writer. Robb stark meeting GRR Martin or Harry Potter meeting JK Rowling, the author of all their pain and suffering. How could any character see their writer as anything but a monster?
Stranger than Fiction with Will Ferrell, captures this amazingly.
The Gunslinger was pretty annoyed with Stephen King.
The difference is J K Rowling helped her good characters overcome their trials. Even in death. Chuck doesn't care where Sam and Dean end up as long as he gets his fun.
or...FitzChivalry meeting Robin Hobb....omfg you want to watch a character get drug through the mud again and again and again...read the Farseer trilogies...
Why would you? At leastyou were written into existence. hat is not a concept that works on that level.
I just realized, Gabriel 'Wrote' fiction just like his dad.
Arch angels do it all the time
Huh. Gabriel is the foil for Chuck. He should have been in the last two seasons. Definitely using this in my rewrite, if that's alright.
You either die a hero or you live long enough to see yourself become the villian.
Expect how do you kill God?
kevincapalot eh
@@jimzimmer2048 I guess you never watched Season 11, did you? It was addressed by even THEM that they CAN die.
God is pretty cruel in the Old Testament
@kevinBileg I'm not pretty sure about that...
When god says he ‘rebuilt’ castiel more times then he can imagine. There is a seriously dark way of interpreting that.
Oh damn I never thought about that!
Maybe I'm just excusing a plot hole, but I think maybe Chuck just brought him back right in the moment he died everytime, kinda like the blood splatter effect we see in an early ish episode. Castiel was basically reborn from one drop of his blood at right moment.
@@andrewnehez9520 or there are multiple versions of him each being modified and thus different from each other
@@jackbutt8774I also wondered about that.
@@jackbutt8774 I think he used the term "rebuilt" at that point because he wanted to hide how powerful he truly was. Later on, when they fought Amara, it gave him a reason to say he couldn't bring Raphael back even though he could've done so with one snap. Even the Shadow believed God had no power over the Empty (i.e. could not simply resurrect beings from there) but that turned out to be "sweet little lies" as well.
I don't think Chuck actually rebuilt Cass every time but simply pulled him out of the Empty without first waking him up. This meant that the Shadow also never woke up and never realized God's intrusion.
I kind of love how the true answer to why we are is God got bored.
Yep, and that he doesn't care about us mere mortals. But then this is just a TV show, or is it? That's the big question.
@@nestproductions7420 I know it's a TV show, I was being sarcastic with my comment. But I do agree with everything else that you have said Leroy.
All apart from the ones with true faith. They don't warrant admiration, they warrant pity as those are the one's that are brainwashed the most.
@@chrishowell9821 I have a Christian "friend" who keeps saying that LGBTQ+ people aren't natural and that they can be "fixed" and are going to hell. Im Bi and he know it annoys me when he talks about LGBTQ like that. What happened to loving everyone?
@@jessicaannmaynard5524 christians arent lovers they are soldiers and they don't even know it
it's funny because real writers are the god of supernatural, but we are some kind of god too. when Sam ask if god is enjoying all..... if god enjoy see them suffering and win... he is also talking to us.
The four wall in this season is very thin
You're so right :(
Isnt “ God” even played by one of the writers?
God is the people through the writers, we’re the unseen force through the catalyst of the writing god
IT CHUCK THE REAL GOD..CMON HIS ACTING LIKE A IDIOT
Rafael Ferreira I understand your point, but even tho, I don’t want the show to end. Because season 14 was really good, and also I want to watch season 15. And more to come, if it is possible.
God-Chuck acts like a toddler playing with toys. When he tires of them, he abandons them.
As a parent, he would be classifed as immature and as an abuser. Immature parents have favorite children and its a form of manipulation for the designated favorite child and a form of abuse for the other children.
As a writer, well all writers are gods of the works that they create. All stories need conflicts and God-Chuck was good at setting up conflicts.
@Fighter For Christ This comment is a wild ride until you look at your username and then it all slots into place. Its like you were summoned by a little bell in your head when someone critiques a fictional character on a CW show because they have the same name as your Dude. I haven't heard someone say "blaspheme" in forever my guy its actually kind of really fucking funny
Anyways, in response to OP's comment: I think they're really good at highlighting every writer's inner conflict with the titular (to this video) scene where Chuck is REALIZING he's God, or at the very least pretending to. He realizes he's cruel, and capricious, and immature, but THAT'S what makes things entertaining. It's one of the first lessons of writing fiction that any writer learns. Kill your darlings. Rough up your characters. Make it as hard as possible for them to achieve their goals, kick them in the face at every opportunity, but let them grow. That's what makes a good story, good entertainment. But he goes too far, is somehow flawed without his own possession of a soul, and believing that he is infallible and always right. Thus why they have to kill him.
Fighter For Christ it’s a fake tv show you psychopath
@Fighter For Christ So if people just read the bible, and tried to figure out the missing details, then everything would be better? The dangerous thing about that thought process, is that you can interpret the things to fit your narrative. People have been doing so for centuries. Take the inquisition for example: They read the bible, interpret the "missing details" to their liking, and murdered thousands of people, because of that interpretation. Priests have molested children. The faithful butchered entire cities during the crusades. The churches around the world has extorted and manipulated their communities for many years, and continues to do so, because they think, that they're entitled to it through the "words of God". There are hundreds of different interpretations of the bible in all the different kind of communities and faiths around the world. All you can ever do with those missing details is guess, but without any real proof, you'd end up with your own narrative, and not factual evidence.
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@Fighter For Christ ,right,time will come where you going to see his true colors..I was raised and grew up in the Christian establishment where you can’t ask any questions otherwise you’ll be seeing by that guy who dares questioning the authority.”touch but don’t grab it,eat it but don’t swallow it...and when I failed financially,my peeps who were god servant in the church,willing without hesitation to kick me out cause I couldn’t help out anymore and no money...yep,fight for Christ...lol,keep on and hope one day your eyes will open! But I am telling you: study deeply and it’s not worth it
still disappointed that Old Death did not appear at the end of the show to fulfill his words.
Great video
This is a year late, but in the end, Jack was God and barely started being that, so I think reaping him would be unfair. I feel like the whole "reaping God" thing was sort of done by the Billie - version of Death (and therefore also Death), through Jack. If I remember correctly, it was her plan for Jack to get rid of Chuck, so that she could take over. She was doing the reaping indirectly.
"i'll reap god too"
pretty sure the "i" stand not for him as a person, but for him as his role, as death
and while not shown; yes death will swipe god :p
God invented souls! that means HE doesn't have a soul!!!
Wow that fits so well
The human soul is made in God's image. It's the angels that have no true soul.
The gods all said, 'let us make man in our image', but God said 'No, man is made in my image."
Of course it's going to be wrapped up in a tidy bow at the end. Chuck is a writer and no writer, not even Stephen King who also had the ego to write himself into his own great story, can resist a tidy ending.
CHUCK IS A IDIOT ,,WERE THE REAL GOD
He doesnt need one. He is pure love
@@truthoftheuniverse4179 agreed chuck isnt god
heard an interesting theory relating to chuck not actually being the real creator. the theory speculates there originally were three siblings, chuck, amara, and the real god. the real god created, but amara felt that it wasnt necessary to have lower creations. with the two arguing, chuck played the jester and found interest in toying with the creation.
chuck (being omnipotent) locked away the real god, blinded amara and the creation for him to rule over. with the real god being locked away presumably in the empty or himself embodiment of the empty.
the three siblings can be compared to the hindu gods, brahma (god), vishnu (chuck), shiva (amara).
brahma created, vishnu preserves and shiva destroys. all are not associated with benevolence or malevolence for balance must occur
+ihatejairus-You actually just mostly described Gnosticism. The demiurge is the Creator of mankind but is not the true god. The demiurge is impatient, capricious, and petty, and his creations are all subjects to his whims and desires. The real god is a being known as Sophie/a, the creator of light. The demiurge was an imperfect creation who wound up creating imperfect creations. The demiurge, while the Creator of mankind, is actually a "false god". To get to true peace and to accept the true God, the demiurge has to be "overthrown" and Sophie/a accepted as the True God that the demiurge has tried to conceal from humanity.
So that would actually make sense if they choose to go about it that way. Chuck is the demiurge. A capricious, petty being seeking out his creations as toys for his whims. The "real God" is somewhere deep in the universe, or locked away by Chuck, like Chuck locked away Amara too. And the "real God" is not perfect either but he/she is very kind and compassionate. Someone who genuinely cares about creation and is distraught on what Chuck has done. It would even be interesting if this "true God" originally created their own world, or created humanity, Chuck obliterated that world the "true God" created or locked "true God" away and plagiarized "true God's" work, deeming himself to be the Father of all creation. Perhaps the angels even if created by Chuck were actually created from "Sophie's" light because Chuck wasn't able to be truly creative. In that potential storyline, Chuck is the new stepfather who forced the real mom/dad to. . ."disappear" and is abusive and merciless to the "children".
Fera Flauna fills in so many holes for me since in my whole experience with supernatural, chuck never played the role of a benevolent nor a directly malevolent being. he's basically a manipulative entity all throughout. so i really believe the theories supporting that chuck isnt really what he portrays to be. chuck must be the "grey" area of the scale. he's not light nor dark, just an ambiguous entity with vague intentions
Ya both completely blew my mind!! Ya basically said what ive felt this whole time concerning chuck but just couldn't put in words or even come up with a concept ,even though thats exactly what ive felt inside,hard to explain..i feel instead of thinking(aspergers) things up..thanks guys so much ,it was elegantly written, beyond perfection! Lets just hope it goes in this direction..or somewhere close. Thatd be cool but 2 episodes left ,it might not be enough time to get into that concept..im still hoping though, thanks guys again for taking the time to write these nice convoluted but thoroughly elaborated theories,much appreciation guys 🙏✌😊
Fera Flauna here is my interpretation, just a little change to what you mentioned.. what if chuck locked away the “real god” but he didn’t destroy the world real god created(or he couldn’t), so he is trying to mess with things in that world(i think our sam and dean’s world is that world, hence they are special compared to other worlds) like introducing plots and starting dominoes (like cupid causing john and mary’s relationship) and the trigger points for apocalypse after apocalypse so that this world destroys itself but even with chuck’s involvement, humanity(basically boys and co) still has real god’s charm(charm/gift/recipe/specialty whatever you wanna call it) and is overcoming his plans for end of world... I think when he said “welcome to the end” in season 14 finale, this is him finally trying to use his deadliest weapon(he probably saved it for the last coz it also has some unknown or wild consequences), whatever that maybe which we will see by series finale... another thought of mine is chuck keeps trying to build all those other world after worlds to satisfy his ego that he can do as good a job, if not better, as “real god” in creating a special world like our sam and dean’s, but he keeps failing, which i think also intrigues him to observe our sam and dean’s world, hence his “favorite show”.... I also think thats one of the reasons he could destroy those other worlds easily like we saw in S15 but not ours (exception is he mentioned some worlds take longer time than others, and that’s probably coz his observations helped him get somewhat closer to original world while creating those other worlds but still failures and hence take some more effort and time than others to end them)... Also, I like the idea of Empty being the real god- like chuck locking him away means making him sleep somehow forever and avoid him being an obstacle, but while trying to bring back Castiel from empty, he messed with it too much somehow unknowingly causing Empty to wake up and thats where the Death and Empty’s union and their try to end God comes in... before I end, I also thought of something while writing this comment, which is again just a theory, that Death is also one of the siblings (or Chuck somehow separated real god in to two entities- Empty and Death as part of his locking away), hence Death has the capacity to reap God at the end & the split caused mask some of his memories and so, death didn’t remember who is older- him or chuck, which could also be the reason why he doesn’t remember the split, and Empty waking up triggered the dominoes for the union and Chuck’s end and Jack is their/his (death+empty or real god) ultimate weapon which could also be the reason why chuck was afraid of Jack in S14 and tried to make Dean kill him or why he killed him at the end.. woah.. a long one 😄
What if The Shadow in the Empty is the true God?
More ancient than Chuck, Amara and Death, custodian of everything that has ceased to exist or yet to exist.
Chuck, being the writer he is, rewrote something and put the Shadow to sleep in the Empty, and took over.
Chuck keeps saying he is a writer. He didn't create the parchments on which he writes on. He dictates the narrative but didn't create the book.
Damn, this is all the evidence and hints that tells you what kind of being Chuck/God is and a message on how we the audience influence media.
I think this must be the most meta show ever, with a brilliant storyline brought about exclusively by a hand-me-down storyline depending on season renewal orders.
well... it's really not
@@dLzzzgaming Did you see the 'I think' there? It means he's expressing his opinion on the matter. HIS thoughts. Disagreed with that? Cool, then you got a different opinion.
@@dell988 Why did you come in and bash someone "expressing his opinion" by defending the original person for "expressing their opinion"... Bit hypocritical my guy.
@@azuraug8693 Except that person say 'it's really not' like it's a fact. That's not expressing an opinion, despite what you might think. Also, asking why I am doing something is a bit weird. After all, it is a public comment section.
Anyways, have a good day/night/morning, and stay cool.
6:20-7:34 even though Uriel was bad, he even knew from the beginning that Chuck isn't what he says he is anymore. And that he doesn't care. Joshua knew too
The way you edited this and did the flashbacks of past episodes and old characters warning the brothers of how cruel God was and h9w he gave up on us and didn't care to intervene he just sat back and watched us fail.. (That was a great touch to the editing!)
"I created the sandbox, you guys just get to play in it.." -Chuck
Thanks ☺️
I love how he's literally throwing a tantrum because the Winchesters wont do what he wants them to... Hahaha
And that's exactly why he didn't take responsibility for Lucifer's downfall: Lucifer is essentially the embodiment of the things God doesn't like about himself. How?
-Lucifer is a narcissistic brat with violent and manipulative tendencies who throws tantrums anytime things don't go his way and abandons those who are not useful to him. This description is also applied to God as well. Lucifer resembles his Father in more ways than one.
The biblical god and Satan/Lucifer both are perfectly depicted in Supernatural. It actually makes me feel even better about being an atheist 😂
When death said that he would reap "God" too , I didn't take it seriously , but now knowing that the real Death is dead (as ironic as it sounds ) i kinda wish he was still here , it would ve been a lot more intresting to see him do it , than Billie , I like her , but the first actor would be a lot better if he himself did reap "God"
I see it has, Death being dead, makes it a shit ton harder to stop Chuck/God.
Death is not "Dead"
Billie became the New Death, Death can't died.
The forst Death was a personification of it and Billie became the new personification. So Death is still "Alive"
Reap doesn’t mean kill in this universe. It just means take souls to Heaven or Hell or the Empty too I guess.
I agree. I liked the guy who played Death. He was sassy and seemed really like how Death would act/do. I know it sounds hilarious but I loved Death (as a character obviously) 😬
I really miss Julian Ritchings as Death. I enjoyed some of the narrative beat involved in killing Death, but he was so damn iconic in the role. And honestly I miss Dean's ritual of appeasing Death's potential ire by feeding him tasty treats. Like, literally he just - pre-empts the ire by being like, "No, see, tasty food! Imagine what offering of tasty food you might get next time if you let me survive this encounter, O Death! Just focus on the tasty treats, and the potential that if you don't reap my ass there could be more tasty treats next time!"
And Death vaguely menaces that this time, he's totally done with this bullshit - while digging into the tasty treat. Did the human fetch a sufficiently tasty treat to justify this rank bullshit disrespect toward a primordial force like myself? ...yes, yes this is a tasty treat. Well, obviously the human is going to, ridiculously, summon me, The Death, again and obviously he's been trained to fetch me tasty treats so. Eh, I guess I'll go with this ridiculousness, let him live, and see what he fetches me next time. It's not like any of my reapers are fetching me tasty treats, and let's be real, none of them would have the first clue what even makes for especially tasty treats in the first place, they'd just bring me random terrible crap whereas this here is a fellow connoisseur of Tasty Treats.
I'm not the biggest fan of loosing the orginal Death, but I do love how Dean in the episode just - is like, okay, the right atmosphere, an imposingly abandoned of all actual life restaurant related to the food: check.
Choosing the menu of the right tasty treats: check.
Personally preparing said tasty treats, to ensure it's both Extra Special this time and as tasty as possible given Death seems to share his exact taste in food: check.
Time to summon Death again!
(Also, I love how after exactly one encounter Dean is like: food. Bring Death offerings of tasty food. If nothing else, I know Death is into food - his priority when forced to extinguish an entire city was getting his pizza fix before said pizza went extinct. And it was specifically pizza, not BS 5-star michellin 7 course artisinal whatever, so Death's into the tastiest samplings specifically of regular people food. We all may be less than bacteria as far as Death is concerned - but the food. When all the people vanish so does the food. If I bring Death offerings of tasty, tasty food, I will have added +1 to Death's net assessment of the encounter.
And lo, on the next encounter he nervously offers food, is menaced while Death munches said food - and survives the encounter. Dean concludes: I have found the secret lore for appeasing Death, and it's offerings of food.
I like to envision that Death is like, hmm. In the entire extremely long span of existence, no one's actually fetched the food for me. This spec of less-than-a-bacteria following (1) encounter fetched me tasty, tasty food. This - this is an amusing spec. What a novel, amusing little spec. This (1) spec can continue being a spec. It literally induces it's own death willy-nilly to arrange meet-and-greets with my hench people, and calls upon the primordial personication of Death itself with nothing but offerings of food as a vain gesture tilting at the windmill of surviving the encounter. Yes, this spec can be tolerated so long as it continues to understand that fetch had better be happening and what is fetched is sufficiently tasty.)
GDI, I'm sorry Billie but you just weren't as fun as the original flavor Death. Julian Ritchings' Death just had this menacing yet absurdist je ne sais quoi that really fit a primordial whose remit has basically been: there's a job that needs to get done, and that's ending shit. A being as old as time, dedicated essentially to a task of drudgery. Chuck was a bored sociopath with an ant farm, Amara was sealed away, and all of it was high octane drama. Chuck literally could not be bothered if he wasn't being drip fed his perfect entertainment. Death was just like, nah, I got my niche. And that niche was... being consistently neutrally involved in, like, just a basic maintenance operation for all of existence. Not endlessly seeking entertainment or an ego-fluff. Just: yep, I'm Death, gotta keep the whole death thing going.
Chuck, again, was a bored sociopath with an ant farm. Death was just like, eh. This food innovation, that's nice. That'll be my approximation of a vice. I... like food. That's a vice, right? This is how vices work? (Meanwhile Chuck is in the background clubbing baby seals and drowning puppies for little kicks of dopamine.) Yeah, food seems like... a real wild thing me to care about. (Random brutal pipe murder in the background, orphans screaming. Chuck pauses to strum a guitar, peeks in on the Angels: ah yeah, that's it, that scratches the itch - pure adulation and worship of how awesome I am even in my total absence as they tear each other apart in a thousand terrible ways in the conviction that if they just keep beating any trace of not totally-blind-adoration-of-God out of each other, and stick to that totally awesome plan I gave them of annihilating each other and the planet, they still think I'll deffo return and reward them and tell them how much I love them back for how much they love, adore and perpetuate blind loyalty to me, a thing I literally created them to do, totes find, I'm deffo on your side, angels, and not at all exploiting you for the sweet hits of delicious poetic suffering you give me as you worship the cause of your suffering. That really hit the spot. Mmm. (brief pause) Bored now! Back to orchestrating new and tastier kinds of suffering for my amusement!)
Humans: (composing music about how awesome Chuck is while killing each other over disputes about who he loves the most) (wailing at the carnage, terrified of dying and of their loved ones dying) (decide with some angelic influence that Chuck'll grant them eternal life, freeing them from the the tyranny of Death because that's deffo the source of the suffering)
Chuck: (delicately engineers a 10 generation cycle of trauma and self-destruction, spends a little time planet-side to get to know the family so he can get a front row seat to his narrative brilliance and maybe personally make a few tragic tweaks to the story in person for that personal touch)
Amara: (trapped, pure rage at Chuck)
The Empty: (totally silent but not actually empty, filled with the totally subsumed masses of sentient feeling beings plunged into a simulation of non-existence, but only a simulation, because what it Chuck needs to resurrect one for a nice narrative beat? They could actual just not exist anymore, but what if them suffering more would make for a kickass story and so Chuck needed them? And so: untold numbers of people suspended in simulated non-existence, because nothing at all can be allowed to permanently escape Chuck's toybox)
Death: ...guess I'll just have some fried rice and void gaze for a while. Spend some time with a nice, non-sentient star cluster that's gonna be obliterated but, you know, for real. I definitely never think at all about that one day reaping God thing. No idea why that would be on my mind while talking to a spec later. Really, really into this whole rice being fried with sauce and leftovers innovation, I do love this tasty food. That is in no way dependent on Chuck not destroying all the humans in a fit of pique. My one day reaping God is just a Fun Fact I like to drop like a gumball into the rare conversation. It just randomly pops into my head in the flow of conversation and out it comes. With just a little hint of a smile. I have no real attachment to this fact, obviously. Just, eating my delicious fried rice.
I want the ending to be the original death coming back and killing chuck.
Y E S
Chop the Chuck down
@Fighter For Christ sorry but I don't try understanding what doesn't exist :-/ i read Bible , Karan and few other books of other religions and all i see are lies that are made to control others... To turn men into loyal sheep...
So , hear words of science , i hope it is not to late for lost like you to understand that there is only knowledge you can prove , no believe but fact , no miracle but merely a chance that happened but could have not .... One day all religions will be burned off like poison they are in humanities veins and all left will be memories of fools to laugh at as we will stand as rave amongst the stars knowing that we can be and will be more powerful and wise than any god we ever were to create in past it being big G , Zeus or any other... Have nice time of the day or night and let science guide human kind .
@Fighter For Christ hmm not bad but those pretty old and somewhere even fake materials are far from impressive . Cutting additional facts out of context doesn't help either.... And in addition i too can say that few concepts in other religions go well with science because first scientists appeared in religions . It did good and bad but it is lie made by men who wanted to control and those who didn't understand how things work.... In our days it is fifth will in humanities car , waste of place , resources and time , plus huge loss of human power.... So agree or not . All those videos and quotes didn't do anything but sadly wasted my time .
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Oh my God! If anybody was as evil as the Devil, this one would be his father!
Satan might be the devil but God , he is the ultimate devil , the Ultimate deceiver
Technically, the devil is the god son soooo
@@Fisinocean Exactly! :p :
I kind of miss the old Chuck, before the showrunners decided he was the bad guy.
Chuck from Season 5, or even 11. A flawed, very “human” portrayal of a divine creator, who’s as along for the ride as the rest of the characters.
The ending was originally going to take place in Season 5. Chuck was not planned as the villain originally. Hell, the Darkness plot felt like it was going to be a pretty good ending, with God accepting his mistakes and taking action finally.
Not like this.
MrImastinker I’m pretty sure if they ended it all in season 5, God would have been revealed to be Cas, not Chuck, but alas. And yeah, even before everything, Chuck was already a major douche with the Archangels and Amara so him being a spoiled brat isn’t really out of the blue for me
@@n.k.nguyen4255 Actually Chuck was already confirmed to be God in season 5. After filming that season, it was reavealed that the writers asked Chuck's actor how it felt to play the role of God in an interview.
Aly Alice Yeah but that moment, SPN was already renewed for season 6, so they can’t make Cas God since he was gonna reappear
Aly Alice I mean if season 5 was like the definitive end, no more new season, I’m pretty sure the producers might have chosen for Cas to be God instead of Chuck
He was evil even then, it just didn’t point out in the light. Having gone back and rewatched...the times Chuck influences things. He designed the Apocalypse, I mean he literally planned it out ahead of time. He wanted people to make those choices, those bad ones that kept the danger constant.
Which means he wanted Mary to burn, Sam to drink demon blood and break the seal.
He wanted conflict and pain.
It wasn’t until his twisted shit kicked him in the ass in the form of Amara coming up that set him back.
Chuck is exactly the kind of person he looked like when they first met him. A weak willed person eaten by insecurities and covering for his faults by playing God.
Human Chucks own words were he wrote the series for entertainment. He finds all that misery entertaining.
Evil God Chuck says the exact same thing.
Dude. You just never saw it.
The fact they told us how everything ends, right from the start
I just thought about it, Uriel was right the whole time.
You hit the god nail on head with video. Great job.
Thank you :)
CHUCK IS A IDIOT TO BE THE REAL GOD
TRUTH OF THE UNIVERSE seems legit to me if you read the fabels. ;) But then agin i am atheist. So for me its easier to se.
@Fighter For Christ Honestly stop posting this. Its fictional. Every comment on here is talking about it from a fictional point of view. If it offends you so much don't watch it.
People have different beliefs so you shouldn't comment on a (amazingly edited and put together) video on something that is pure fiction. Its people's decisions to believe what they want to believe.
Take other people into consideration
@@henrikbjork5975 I'm atheist too!
“Yeah, I mean your my favorite show” gives me chills
at least we now know death wasnt lying about reaping god, not that i personally had any doubts about the validity of that statement
I agree, God represents people obsession of things that should be and or Supposed to be While dean and sam represent free will
Snore Topez Well Dean,Sam and Cas are team free will
@@madmatt3686 and then when jack came along they became team free will 2.0
I always wondered why God thought that Dean would kill Jack, when Dean has never been able to hurt his kids or those he considers his. Do questionable things to ensure their safety, sure...
But when it came to Ben, Emma, Bobby John, Claire, Jack, and especially Sam(And Sam is absolutely his kid), this Dean has never has never been that kind of person.
Chuck really never paid attention to his main character like he should.
This is just speculation, but maybe Chuck - after creating countless worlds, seeing countless of lives - just figured that - since Michael would have killed Lucifer, Cain killed Abel, Abraham was ready to kill Isaac - being close to someone wouldn't matter that much in the end. Perhaps Chuck also saw parts of himself in Dean, so he concluded that they would act similar. Chuck never really cared about his family, his solution to being mad at someone is trying to get rid of them, so why - in his mind - would Dean act different?
He really was “never on their side”...
I’m just watching the episodes chuck was in season four.. Man that actor did a good job playing a dead beat author because I never expected him to be God.
Probably that came as a surprise to the authors as well. They were "making it up as they go".
@@Tpespisa Pretty much sums up network tv.
They knew he was going to be God all along. They showed that at the end of season 5 when he wisps away into thin air.
The actor who plays Chuck knew before season 5 as the writers asked him, "how does it feel to be playing God?"
But Chuck have said "then I might be God"
THIS IS EPIC!!!
I've been thinking about God as a character lately, too. I actually started rewatching the series after the season 14 finale, because it changed the whole show and I've been writing down all of Chuck's influences and intentions on TFW. (The document has now well over 10 000 words and you managed to come to the same conclusion about God and his power and his influence in just over 10 minutes!).
Your edit just perfectly sums up and explores God's storyline and how it's woven its way through the entirety of the show. You did amazing and remarkable work showing and explaining such a complex and multifaced character! I had goosebumps all over and tears in my eyes the entire lenght of the video. You can be proud of yourself!
Thank you so much!! It means a lot to me. It was a very hard video to make. 💕
@Fighter For Christ I think what you see today is a cultural shift towards authority figures. Go back fifty years and authority figures were to be trusted implicitly, never questioned or doubted. Look at the world today and you the expectation is that authority figures are not to be trusted, selfish, indifferent and corrupt. Government scandals, money hungry corporations, celebrity affairs, children entertainers being revealed as pedeophiles, embezellment ,fraud and corruption. This isn't about "God" this is about how in our world we assume any human with power is abusing it.
@Fighter For Christ hehe blasphemy.
@Fighter For Christ You are the hypocrite Jesus was talking about when he said, "And when thou prayest, thou shalt not be as the hypocrites. are: for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and. in the corners of the streets, that they may be seen of men."
You don't care about spreading the message or converting sinners. You care about being righteous and telling other people they are wrong for not being like you. Go away.
Edit: I just wanted to add a couple things. People aren't more anything now than they were at any other time. The difference is information. We have the ability to learn about any and everything that happens in the world within seconds. We have information fed to us from the time we wake up to the time we go to bed. In the 1950's, as mattwho81 says, they got news from the paper, the radio, and some from TV. As well as just general information from talking to one another.
Go back 100 years and the printed word is what tells people things. Anytime before that and it's all word of mouth basically. Some of the more educated were able to get info from letters and books but unless you were a king you weren't getting anything in a timely way. Wars were still be fought after they had ended, for example. People could only be told things at the speed of the fastest horse or messenger pigeon.
Now? You know everything as quickly as you want to know it. There's a fire on the other side of the country? Someone has filmed it on their phone and posted it on Facebook or Twitter. News travels faster than you can take it in. There's nothing new about human behavior. Nothing. It's only that we get to see that behavior more quickly and more often. With this many people in the world versus how many there were in the past, of course, there is going to be more of every type of behavior. That's how statistics work.
Every group of Christians since Jesus died has said it's the end days. Every single one. They've none been right. It's also stated in the bible, clear as day, that no one knows when the end of days is but the Father. "But about that day or hour no one knows, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father. So, if even Jesus doesn't know when the world will end, I'm guessing that you don't know either. So, umm, relax. Quit trying to be special and righteous. You're neither. You're a sinner just like the rest of us. No better no worse.
@Fighter For Christ "But about that day or hour no one knows, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father."
I know exactly what you're doing. I'm sorry if you don't. Maybe do some self-reflection if it's not clear as day.
🤔 Jack killed Mary just by saying "leave me alone" and flashing his yellow eyes? There has to be more to that scene.
Or nephilim are essentially basilisks.
THE EMPTY IS THE REAL ,,CHUCK IS A IDIOT TO BE GOD
He smote her. If you go back and watch the episode where Jack was standing, the ground was scorched. Jack accidentally blasted her away.
@@truthoftheuniverse4179 EXACTLY. Existence is nothing but a mutation. "Let there be light". Also the reason THE DESTROYER exist. Yin and Yang. All that.
@@bomcstoots1 is chuck god because he acts like an idiot,, THIS SHOW TRYING TO DESTROY GOD NAME..YEAH GOD IS LUCIFER
I have to say, this take on God is one of the best and most clever interpretations of (Christian)
mythology
Emma Gross Emmma idk but this show is Demonic it potrays God as evil when he’s not God is Good that’s why he died for us on the cross. If there’s one thing you take from this is that God loves you that’s why your alive breathing rn.... and turn to him before it’s to late and he destroys you for your evil ways. Pray and repent accept Jesus as lord and you will be saved from the punishment we all deserve for sins
I would not call it an interpretation of the Christian concept of God. SPN takes a story like the Bible's stories and puts a dark twist on them. Also, any character or creature that is more powerful than humans are often monsters or can become monsters. God-Chuck being the ultimate powerful being would naturally turn dark in SPN world. It was just a matter of time and this being the last season for SPN, it was appropriate that God-Chuck would create the final Apocolypse.
@@syndicate2ify Its a clever take on mythology, not a Christian vision of God. And didnt jesus die on the cross, not God? And what evil ways are you talking about lmao. And about accepting God into my heart, no thanks, im good.
@@emnm144 Jesus is God. It's confusing I know. I don't really believe in God but we discussed this a lot in my religion class.
@@syndicate2ify umm....sorry but saying god is loving and then threatening he would destroy us does not help your case lol
You did an AMAZING JOB you put all the Easter eggs 🥚 on chuck actually being the villain.
One more if u go back to swan song ending with chuck writing it shows him disappearing in that light blue dust
No commentary, no trying to convince the viewers, no dialog other that editing scenes from the series for us to see the path of the character (Chuck/God) thru several viewpoints from the other players....Well Done, WELL DONE INDEED 🤙🏾
"At the end I'll reap him too." Well, we know what's gonna happen at 15x20
You sure know your stuff by combining all these older clips together...i do not know if the writters always intented for god to turn out a villain or if they made it up along the way but either way when you watch this older clips it makes sense
Why thank you! And I totally agree with you. That's why I needed to make this video. Everything makes sense and that's crazy 🤯
You know, I never even noticed this "mistake" that you mention up above. This video illustrates a perfect vision of this imperfect God. I never fully grasped Chuck's character as a whole because of His absences, (which is part of the role I'm sure) but this truly revealed the nature of God. Its my favorite SPN video on TH-cam 💯
Oh my God, thank you so much 🥰
@@fabiolaspn You're very welcome! Thank you for this great video! 👍
What if God had a soul and it was destroyed when Amara almost killed him in season 11? That would explain why Chuck is evil
Ooooooh, interesting theory!
I really REALLY hope that the show ends with God turning out to just be playing a role in his own story as the final villain. I hope he grants them all either a place in Heaven or the whole family back alive with the show ending on all 4 of them in the shot of the car trunk with Sam saying "We got work to do"
I really like that this God feels like the same God the blible talks about, crapicious, that would turn people into salt and stuff like that.
MUST update when Season 15 concludes.
I can't promise, but that's a great idea!
The souls are complicated even for me is a really bad lie, what he should have said was something like,
"Because Jack is on the level of a Cosmic Entity, I can't restore his soul without serious consequences." He would then go on to say something like, "I use part of my energy to keep the Universe running, but if I where to restore Jacks soul, I couldn't keep the Universe running." Or really any excuse to back it up, or saying, "I would be too exhausted, and Death, Amaura, or the Empty would take the chance to kill me."
Really for God being confirmed to be able to literally grant himself pretty much any ability he wants, (French, Guitar, Singing, etc.) he's pretty bad at lying.
Still not as bad as the BS in how he was actually defeated.
I've been watching criminal minds a lot recently and they always say that serial killers tend to inject themselves into the investigation. It always reminds me of Chuck writing himself into supernatural :/
Also, this edit is sO COOL!! Good job!!!
Perfectly explains the entire plot of the story this is perfect
Chuck may be the most complex interpretation of "God" as a character. Chuck is a "God" character who didnt want to be God anymore. It would have been interesting to see a flashback of Chuck/God at key points of Genesis: creating everything, the fall of Lucifer, the disobedience of Adam and Eve ect. It would be interesting to see when he truly gave up and decided to become "Chuck". That clip of Chuck before we knew he was God and he "discovered his gifts" he literally talks about himself, where he calls himself a "cruel and capricious God". I know the direction of the show didnt originally have Chuck go this way, but its an interesting circle of Chuck describing "God" as someone who must be horrible, and he ends up being horrible. You could write an entire thesis on Chuck/God.
Its because of free will. Being omnipotent is boring so he writes stories to pass the time. A narcissist created something he can't control to take part in and see if he can control anyways. He doesn't care about the results, it's just one of his many stories. This is the one instance, the one story.. that he hasn't been able to control. It fascinates and frustrates him.
Thanks for this long clip down memory lane. Very well put together.
One thing I dont really like is how they brought Jack back, and how he's gonna be the key to deafeating God. Jack has been used as a get out of jail free card ever since he first arrived. I would have liked to see their final test be without their big crutch. Just Sam, Dean, and Cas, who have been together since season 4
Thank you so much for that "We have guns and we'll find you" juxtaposition.
that moment at 2.00 is the best
it sum it up so well just in his looks there haha
dude I just wanna say, this is a masterpiece!
THIS IS SO GOOOOD
Thank you :)
Chuck is just being a Real God.
When you live so long like a planet you won't care how human live their life.
Whatever they suffer , it doesn't really matter to a god who borned before the sun formed.
"Because he doesn't care!" -Micheal
God is definitely an older version of Lucifer.
Tbh, I wouldn't be surprised if God is actually like this in real life, if he actually exists. Either he created us and is either disappointed at us and he left in response to that, or he simply lost interest in us, and then moved on to do something else, or he is just manipulating people's lives for his own amusement. Sure, you can talk all day about all the good things that happened supposedly because of God, but in the end, there is a long history of truely evil stuff that happened on this earth, and God either did nothing to stop them, or he intentionally caused them, and whatever "lessons" he is trying to teach us through these horrible stuff? It's not worth it. Every good parent should actively intervene when his children are acting in a bad way, and I'm not talking about working through other people, I mean taking a personal action, that leaves no doubt that God is involved.
Well he would be imposing on free will if he intervened, he wouldn’t be letting us create our own path and make our own choices. He actively intervened many times if we go by the Bible even gave us a whole book on how not to be jerks, it’s not his fault that we don’t listen. So now he’s letting us do our own thing because obviously him intervening has not changed anyone’s attitude. Also every bad things that happened was because of humans not God, and we don’t know to what extent he may have intervened since we don’t know what his intervention would look like, like he can be the reason why the Nazis lost the war.
Exactly. This is actually one of my favorite depictions of God. I'm also non religious and other people have a right to disagree.
masterpiece.
This is genius! I love this so much ❤
Apart from all of this I kind’ve love chuck’s one liners 😂
Very well done, this struck a cord with me personally too with feelings I've been going through
Uriel and Lucifer were on the right track.
Alternate Michael too in his own way
Lol I love the plot twist. The previous villains were right at 100 %
The foreshadowing!
Amazing job
oh god tihs is amazing;D goodjob, it is first time i see spn edit with 11 min:D
Thank you! Hope it's not too long 😉
I remember back in season 6 thinking how crazy it would be if after all these years God was the true villain of the story, now look at us, who would’ve thought
Hes like the god from the Spawn comics
Adding to what Scythe papa and Fera Flauna commented, here is my interpretation, just a little change to what they mentioned.. what if chuck locked away the “real god” but he didn’t destroy the world real god created(or he couldn’t), so he is trying to mess with things in that world(i think our sam and dean’s world is that world, hence they are special compared to other worlds) like introducing plots and starting dominoes (like cupid causing john and mary’s relationship) and the trigger points for apocalypse after apocalypse so that this world destroys itself but even with chuck’s involvement, humanity(basically boys and co) still has real god’s charm(charm/gift/recipe/specialty whatever you wanna call it) and is overcoming his plans for end of world... I think when he said “welcome to the end” in season 14 finale, this is him finally deciding to use his deadliest weapon(he probably saved it for the last coz it also has some unknown or wild consequences), whatever that maybe which we will see by series finale... another thought of mine is chuck keeps trying to build all those other world after worlds to satisfy his ego that he can do as good a job, if not better, as “real god” in creating a special world like our sam and dean’s, but he keeps failing, which i think also intrigues him to observe our sam and dean’s world, hence his “favorite show”.... I also think thats one of the reasons he could destroy those other worlds easily like we saw in S15 but not ours (exception is he mentioned some worlds take longer time than others, and that’s probably coz his observations helped him get somewhat closer to original world while creating those other worlds but still failures and hence take some more effort and time than others to end them)... Also, I like the idea of Empty being the real god- like chuck locking him away means making him sleep somehow forever and avoid him being an obstacle, but while trying to bring back Castiel from empty, he messed with it too much somehow unknowingly causing Empty to wake up and thats where the Death and Empty’s union and their attempt to end God comes in... before I end, I also thought of something while writing this comment, which is again just a theory, that Death is also one of the siblings (or Chuck somehow separated real god in to two entities- Empty and Death as part of his locking away), hence Death has the capacity to reap God at the end & the split caused mask some of his memories and so, death didn’t remember who is older- him or chuck, which could also be the reason why he doesn’t remember the split, and Empty waking up triggered the dominoes for the union and Chuck’s end and Jack is their/his (death+empty or real god) ultimate weapon which could also be the reason why chuck was afraid of Jack in S14 and tried to make Dean kill him or why he killed him at the end.. woah.. a long one 😄. Edit: writing this comment, I forgot what I actually wanted to say, @Fabiola SPN- that was an awesome edit and sums up Chuck perfectly 👌🏻👏🏻🙌🏻 you got yourself another subscriber
Or this is all my Atheist brain still trying to make sense of the myth that “real God” is all loving and good.. 🤪 May be Chuck is just a case of God being similar to Dr.Manhattan like @Travis Touchdown mentioned in one of the comments 😉
Another observation, Chuck probably despises real “God” (in my interpretation )or his old self when he was all loving God/creator(which he probably thought was naive and weak, in Travis Touchdown’s interpretation) so much so that’s why he said “DON’T USE THE G WORD” when he was addressed as God..
Bloody brilliant edit - well done 👏👏👏👏🌈💐🌞🇬🇧
I don't think Chuck is God. Lol.... I think Chuck is a powerful entity but NOT God. Exhibit A: Chuck feared Jacks existence. Why would God fear anything when he could just write it out of the story. Exhibit B: The REAPER SAID HE WOULD REAP GOD AS WELL eventually so if God can die then he's not really God... So I'm thinking... Maybe Chuck is a vessel of God just like the reapers are vessels of Death.
I don 't really know about the reap god part cause maybe death had it wrong but god isn't really scared of jack I think I think it would be more accurate to say he is scared that Jack destroys his world's like some virus in his computer which he wishes go get rid of.
NerdGirl72 these are just your preconceptions about “God” and the nature of omnipotence. Has it occurred to you that on some level maybe god “ Wants” to die? If he can really do anything that should include killing himself as well. And outside of that hes not really written to be truly omnipotent in the show anyways, just really close to it
'Preconceptions about God'. Exactly. This recurring 'Chuck isn't God' argument seems to me to be based on people's idea that the being who created the universe can't be morally fallible because the universe isn't. But the truth is that any being, even the creator of the universe, has subjective morality and can do evil things. The indifferent universe and its creator are different things.
He feared Jack because if Jack came to terms with his power, as a nephilim, he would be one to rule his power as a writer. If Jack could control his powers, he would become an equal existence.
Yeah, but as Billy said, to create perfect story, he had to "WRITE HIMSELF INTO THE STORY". That means, that even if he is a god, then he is subjected to the story and that was his own choice. That means, that change of the story can and will affect him. Billie also said, it was his only weakness. And Jack was part of his story, till he killed him. That means, he was removed from the story and he was returned to that world(not story, cause these beings "cover" him) by beings equally if not more powerfull than him. Also Jack was returned after god departed and, as Sam and Dean discovered in apocalypse world, if he departs, it means he "ended your story", he essentialy stop watching your world(story).
Billie also said, that his book, in the death's library, where everyone has each variation of death, god's book "showed" only after he created this story. So it means, that, by his own choice, by choice to write himself story, created an only possible way how to kill him.
My mom is super religious and finds this version of God offensive. I'm like, "Mom, this it pretty much taken straight out of the Bible, which is a book you believe in and live your life by." lol
Awesome vid. Can't say I personally like God/Chuck because he's kind of an ass, but I still think he's an 'interesting' character.
I am waiting for a big reveal in the upcoming episodes. Even I am not convinced that they are going to kill God. They are making us feel that they are going to but I am sure that would just be stupid and anti climatic.
Plot twist OG Death is the real God
Imagine if they could've read deaths book about chuck and it just said he had a heart attack or something, but it didn't mention him turning mortal
This was such an amazing video. Good job!.
coming here after 15*19 is much much different
Wow this editing is just amazing
I think the reason why Sam and Dean are God favorite is because Chuck look at Sam and Dean on image that he and sister Amara should be. Instead his true image that he does see of himself and maybe Amara is that of Jack. This is why he created so many earth's, so many different universes. Those universe are phases that God might saw himself but in the end were "failed" experiments universes. I wouldn't be surprise that the Original death as been with God in the very beginning. Seeing God create and then gets bored of his own toys that he create because he saw a small single flaw. A great example of that Leviathan. He made countless of other worlds. Even worlds where Sam and Dean are not even born. Look how he left that universe too. Until he create world with two extraordinary brothers that would do anything to lived there life with freedom and fight against not only Lucifer and his demons but the other angels themselves. Even rebel against him. Which makes God like the boys even more.
And He didn't take responsibility for Lucifer's fall because Lucifer is the embodiment of the things God doesn't like about Himself.
I really hope that they introduce the likes of Erebus, Nyx, and Gaia/Gaea siblings who are also believed to be the first beings in the universe, Erebus, Darkness, Nyx, the Night, a shadow figure, and Gaea/Gaia, Earth, and Life.
Though I do have a theory, Ereubus was described as "Born out of the primeval void", so perhaps he was already introduced as The Empty, but he is also the complete personification of Darkness, so it can also be argued that Amara was based upon him or based upon Nyx "Nyx is the Greek goddess (or personification) of the night. A shadowy figure, Nyx stood at or near the beginning of creation" It would be awesome to see those three if there is a Season 16 as they are as old as God, Amara, and Death so they can be explained as just as powerful. They could be the next big bads, or one could show to help fight Chuck.
So god or no god, you go to hell! Best line ever XD
Nice job putting all of this together!
I liked old Chuck, loved him even, The moment it was revealed he WAS God I checked out
Everyone knows Dean and Sam are the ultimate villains. Lucifer knew it from the beginning.
This video is really well made!
Jeez, how come I never watched this before? This is one the best videos on Supernatural. Such an elaborate and precise editing on Chuck/God. Loved it. Anyone who has missed or forgotten pr couldn't understand Chuck's role must watch it. Kudos to you girl.❤️
Thanks ☺️
this is FANTASTIC, have to say..amazing work..very high level quality..shows you how much God is the main villain in this show..has me rooting for original DEATH to come and reap him
This show makes you think
It's so clear to anyone watching this that Chuck is the unsung hero of this show. Maligned and hated, everyone wants him to just snap his fingers and give them what they want... but no one understands WHY he's done this or what it means. He's said it plain as day.. "it's about free will and choice."
Anyone who thinks he's a bad guy has never written anything before. As a writer, I totally understand him and the whole Supernatural narrative.... and it's beautiful.
I like the idea of the characters rebelling against their own writer for making them suffer because we humans would do the same.
Chuck could of just left and never intervene again but instead decided to destroy and start From scratch which is a perfect analogy for how writings works
@Al3xh413 I don't think anyone mentioned morality. We are not dealing with our own world... we are dealing with a world in which GOD actually exists. HE decides what is moral. He created it all. He has that right.
In our world, the real world, you are correct though. However, I will point out that taking a step back, the lamb population needs to be kept under control or disease would run rampant, they'd eat all available food sources or whatever... so man does help the lamb by eating it. We also keep them from going extinct by keeping them as a food source. So yes, you are totally correct bout morality being relative.
@Al3xh413 I don't think you understand the difference. In the real world, nature is the guiding force. There is no one responsible for the creation and formation of the universe. The only true things are mathematics.
But in a universe literally created by a God (and NO, I do not believe in one) that god is supreme in all things. He writes the very code of reality, the forces of nature and the nature of free will. It is almost unimaginable to people who have working brains... but in that world, morality and the word to describe it are all HIS creations. So he does have final say in what is good. It's not about waving a gun around. It's that he created it.
Let's put it this way... in comic books, Superman gets his strength from the sun and can fly and shoot lasers. This isn't possible in reality. But in that comic book universe people can also have rings that let them make green holograms. They have gods who do all manner of nonsense and a man dressing up like a Bat, defying the laws of physics with his gadgets. That's because they created that world and they say what goes.
Same in a god created world. NOT ours. A god created one. I believe you were thinking of our reality with god inserted... not what a reality would be like if it were actually created by god. Logic is what HE says it is there.
@Al3xh413 you have a great point and you may be correct after all. If their creation can conceive of a type of morality that defies their creator's, then that is a kind of "multiversal" standard of morality... from our perspective.
But I think of it this way: If you decorate your house with penises and shag carpeting on the walls, who is to tell you that you are wrong? Chuck created his own worlds, his own people and his own system. That's HIS house. He is GOD there. Who is to tell him that he is wrong?
He could be performing an experiment to get Sam and Dean to finally take responsibility for humanity and walk their own moral path. He may be trying to make great television. Who knows? It's HIS creation.
If I make a child, it isn't really my property. I didn't really "make" it. I just helped bring it into life. Chuck literally made Same and Dean's whole universe. They're his property. So if you're playing with your toys, who is to tell you that GiJoe can't play with Skeletor? You make those decisions as god of your playroom.
This is the only TV show I can watch.. the only TV show that gives me goosebumps.
Hey! This is a really GREAT compilation. Thank you for taking time to edit and put together.
He did turn out to be a dick. Lucifer was right all along.
It's the fact that he ends up losing and having his powers stripped away by Lucifer's son. I would have love to see Lucifer's reaction to that.
Yeah, out of everything that happened in the finale, Chuck's ending is poetic.
He loses his power and control and has to live as a nobody mortal. Perfect end for a narcissist like him.
I started watching SN on TNT and eventually started watching on Netflix. Have watch every season 4 times now and still cant get enough. Love the story line and characters, especially Rowena and Charlie. I also love the fact that I have lived in Sioux Falls, SD for almost 50 years so Jodi and Bobby have a special place in my heart. Also the car "baby" is a '67 which is the year i was born. I was born in Wichita, KS and Sam and Dean are from Lawrence, KS. If it would be possible to be a part of the last few episodes to be made in the final season, i would find that to be an ultimate life experience to watch that happen. Are you reading Eric Kripke or Robert Singer?
Nice montage! Got me going there.
OMG Thank you so much for this awesome experience!!!♡♡♡♡
Chuck is not only a villian,
Hes in fact:
"the monster at the end of the book"
Ironic enough that he appears in the end of Fanfiction whichs core story is about a monster that consumes good storys..just think about it.....
Maybe Chuck has made this out to be a self-ironic-reference
Or hes in fact living from the story:
Maybe epic storys are the only thing keeping him focused on who he is,
because without them he would be lost in delirium of being everything and everyone at the same time
but he couldnt contain himself anymore.
You love it so much
I love it so much
GOLD.