why not both? They know full well that they're supporting a terrorist, they just didnt think it had legal framework to allow them to do anything about it and shouted down the member of public raising the alarm, its both Ignorant and a bias simultaneously, these officers should be on adminstrative leave until they pass a test regarding the common laws of the country, focusing in on politics. If they cannot do it, they get the sack for negligence & or gross misconduct.
Not ignorance Paul,definite bias under instruction from their superiors?Mark Rowley.Not sure which site it's on maybe Wikispooks,I know not entirely reliable but they have some info on Rowley which may answer a few questions.
@@stevemcmahon100 They were sent to police that event by their superiors who do know what they are doing. We all need to be scared with that type of leadership in charge of our police forces.
They probably didn't learn Arabic at school, (like most of us Brits), and the word meant nothing to them. I have now googled it: Hezbollah means 'Party of God', and is a Lebanese Shia Islamist militant group and political party that has been designated as a terrorist group by most western nations. - Plod now please take note. It's the law.
@@SashaBaron112 Sitting there getting angry helps nothing. Better to be productive and do something about it. If you can't do anything about it, why bother getting angry and making yourself misserable in the process. Its better to have control over your emotions to stay calm and make better decisions. Most of the reason nobody talks to each other about this stuff is because of how angry it makes us.
When the police are willing to put a Facebook poster in jail of "incitement", but take no action on what is a vigil on a leader of a terrorist group, you know the country has taken a wrong turn somewhere.
If you want examples of terrorist organisations, look no further than reform uk party, IDF, shin beth, mossad, mi5, mi6, home office, uk border force, pfizer, moderna, cia, fbi, the us gubberment, the ukstan gubberment... Nuff said. The opinion of the gubberment is entirely irrelevant!
@@wordwordfulyeah I think this They (police in general) arent particularly intelligent and rarely understand the law but I think you’re right and they’re just playing dumb in this case Deny deny deny looks bad on social media BUT it looks better than saying the wrong thing and blowing up (excuse the pun 😂) on social media This is my goal now - embarrass them on social media until they start making changes 😂 Rough and ready atm but will improve as I go
These are just regular people who want to do their job of keeping peace and don't do heavy research on politics. Isn't that alright? I didn't know it either Everyone is so unfair demanding everyone must have specialist knowledge or they're evil
@wirdy1 There are 1.3 Muslims living in the Greater London area. Lets say half are female so that leaves 650K males. Let's again say only half of them are of an age to violently demonstrate as is their wont, that is 325K who may take to the streets which is far more that the total of police officers in England and Wales. This is an example of simple two fear policing where they will happily batter white folk but fear the interloper and even import more for cops to be frightened of.
@@emstirling-is4nu I was only doing my job . Who else in history used that sorry excuse . If they disagree with what they are being asked to do them they should not do it
To me they came across as genuinely ignorant. Incredible if they are ignorant; even worse if they knew what they were doing and acted dumb to ‘diffuse’ the situation.
@@PorchBassTrue, they were sent to police that event by their superiors who do know what a proscribed banned organisation is. We all need to be scared with that type of leadership in charge of our police forces.
@@PorchBass True, they were sent to police that event by their superiors who do know what a proscribed banned organisation is. We all need to be scared with that type of leadership in charge of our police forces.
@@TheElizabethashby They never did, their primary purpose is to protect the establishment and they'd throw their own children under a bus if instructed. They are utter cowards and traitors.
@@Cdr_Mansfield_Cumming you mean arrest those at the vigil? Like you did for any of the dead IRA men? You know that they are there primarily to keep the peace. We were all told to leave the Terrorism Act to the ATB. Even the lawyer is only saying that there maybe a breach of the law. There lack of knowledge on the subject would be down to a poor briefing. Despite the IRA bombing campaign going on in the 70s and 80s we got no training on Terrorism other than dealing with suspect items, cordons etc. I can understand the ignorance on display by some here but if you were really Job you are at best being disingenuous.
What is a "literal terrorist vigil". What do you think they do - throw IUDs or something? I suppose you support all the rioters that got thrown in jail after the "Nigel Fartage" riots?
Okay gammon take a seat. Ignorance of the law is not an excuse. You and all 100 likes completely misunderstand the phrase you retards 😂 That only applies if you commit a crime, the Met officers are not accused of a crime, they are accused of not doing their job, which is not a crime. Furthermore, The met are absolutely right. Mourning a person is not "support of a proscribed organisation" Otherwise we would arrest their mum and dad for burying them and their entire families and anyone who visits them in prison😂 No wonder you lot think the earth is flat 🤣🤣🤣
Excellent video Dan, you hit the nail on the head at 7:23 ... the two officers urgently need to be taken off such duties and need to attend a training course so that they know when to act and who to arrest if things go sour.
it used to, by the tennants and statutes that govern their position they are supposed to understand all laws in all forms. here is an act of gross misconduct
Indeed it should. Indeed so. I also always believed it to be a legal principle that a person who is unaware of a law may not escape liability for violating that law merely by being unaware of its content. The level of ignorance of the law amongst those who are paid to uphold should be a source of great concern. The probable truth here is that these officers, however ignorant they may be (and these two came across as probably being ignorant of many things), were ordered on this occasion, not to enforce the law in question.
It's why the bible says that "leaders" will be held to a "higher standard" at the "judgement seat". They will have no excuse when they are on their knees in front of the One True Living God.
It is complete bullshit that those two officers didn't know what was going on. Surely they would have had a briefing about the event they were protecting, what it was about, the possible response to the event, and who by. I bet they are all told to plead ignorance and neutrality if confronted or questioned by a member of the public. If the Police are lying and misleading (or intimidating and threatening members of the public with arrest/prosecution to keep them quiet), for fear of the response from a particular group, then it is proof that the group in question is a HUGE problem in the country.
The met are absolutely right. Mourning a person is not "support of a proscribed organisation" Otherwise we would arrest their mum and dad for burying them 😂 Surely you know the difference between supporting a proscribed organisation and mourning the death of your friend or family member, no?
@@TheGreatoutdoorsAndGourmetVic No it's not a strawman you fool. Is obvious that its not illegal to mourn a criminal. You lot are just making things up because you don't like it. Facts dont care about your feelings
and that has become very obvious over the last few months..but what is really scary is that they are siding with the others..your country is in big trouble and it is only going to get worse,,you guys need to do something other than turning your heads...Canada
As an ex member of the Met, I absolutely despair at the moronic stupidity of an organisation that is no longer fit for purpose. The total lack of decent leadership is astounding.
Okay member of the MET lol. Answer 1 question. Is it a crime to go to the funeral of your own child if they was a terrorist and mourn them? Or are you calling that support for a terror organisation too. Because its the exact same thing. Mourning a person, is not support of a terror organisation you fool, that fact you don't know that is alarming. Please resign.
@@TheInsida1 Vigil is when people stay up at night. Since this event happened in day light, it means you don't know what you're talking about. Not only families attend funerals, friends go too. Im sorry, but where does it say, only family members can mourn a terrorist? you're just making things up. haha Also what is fallacious in what is said? do you actually understand the words you are using?
A religious vigil is normally held at night but not entirely. However it’s common for people to enact a vigil over the death of someone during daylight hours too.
Top-man does a 'top- job' once again, excellent work. Your analysis and to those who view the video is a strikingly straightforward one in light of the amount media coverage of the events taking place in the Middle East. Shame on these young ignorant bobbies. I hope their superiors take them to task. As is often pointed out- ignorance of the law is no excuse.
To me this represents an abject failure of leadership of the MET! The fact that these officers do not know the basic politics/sensitivities/law with regards to a very controversial meeting that they are responsible for policing is unforgivable! Having served in Northern Ireland we were constantly briefed with the political nuance of a particular march/protest/demonstration for very obvious reasons. Why is the MET not doing the same for all of its officers?
Tks for yr service Sir. You would think since they are 1st responders so-to-speak that they would not be briefed ?after education. Why are they not responding to this as it is a terrorist organization? There needs to be a very deep dive into this mess.
People get the policing that they deserve. As a nation, Britain has not backed police. It has stood by over the last 15-20 years, policing has been degraded away. People continue to consume anti-police media (almost all of the media) and do not make any demands on local or national politicians nor media for the last decades. People stood by and allowed police powers to be rolled back and police to be labelled racists as an entire group. People did nothing when public order policing was scaled back to an almost entirely passive role. When the 2012 riots happened, no-one questioned why they occurred and was policed as they were. People were happy to simply call the police "useless" and carry on. There is no other group in the country that works under the threat from both within and without that police do. In no other career field (except the armed forces) do you give up all your employment rights, legal rights and human rights. In no other career field is there the expectation that you will be subjected to daily criminal threat - but also threatened with criminal sanction for doing your job exactly as you were trained to do.
Just frightening and disgusting that our police do not know that they are a terrorist organisation. What hope do we have of a law abiding country zero?
This is very easy to say from the comfort of a computer. Very few other people have jobs where they are scrutinised as to the minutae of a very wide ranging subject matter, and expected to know the answer immediately on the street. If you walked up to a doctor in the street, showed him a boil on your leg and demanded that he tell you what it is - if he was not able to immediately tell you, would you say that is "frightening and disgusting"?
How many ordinary citizens know all the proscribed organisations? Do you? Did you even know Hezbollah was before reading this post? Care to list all the others; without looking them up?
Because being a police officer is about know the right skin tones your allowed to arrest now rather that actually policing without fear or favour they are scared to have their families targeted because that’s what these savages do and because we are civilised they know we wouldn’t so we now live in a world of white ain’t right
In the world of law enforcement, one might expect a certain level of competence and professionalism. However, there are days when it feels like the police force has taken on a group of work experience students who are just trying to figure out which end of the baton to hold.
I'm not suprised this has happened last time it was a nazi flag. As long as the grouping is leftist they are immune to criticism and wholly protected by the police.
As an ex-police officer They’re unbelievable They should know the law. No excuses. That’s the quality of persons being recruited these last 10 years or so.
This religious/terrorist/freedom/lsl*mofas**st fighter and nutter was DEAD. Corpses can't be members of anything. So "performing a vigil for the late Mr X" cannot be understood to be supporting the organisation of which he was a member ... before he was killed. Mr "Black Belt" perhaps needs a little schooling in certain aspects of the law himself. Jus sayin.
🇺🇸 As an American, I have ZERO RESPECT for the Met Police and Sadiq Khan. I have watched London just become a horrible city in the past 10 years. Sad !!! It used to be a lovely city.
As a fellow American I must say that *a few of our big cities* have turned into *unbelievable, nightmarish CHAOS* ; so we're not much better. 🙄 😳 (No shade to you, Roxanne - the shade is directed fully at our government!) #MAGA2024 BABY!
The people are peaceful and want peace, remember in northern Ireland when the Government of the time interned all Catholics in case they were going to cause trouble, how well did that go!
"That's your opinion that it's not an opinion" were the female police officer's exact words. I had to listen to it going on for 6 or 7 times to transcribe it. Absolutely shocking.
From the responses the Met police give to questioning at these kinds of events I suspect that they have been advised by their superiors to plead ignorance and deflect.
It so obviously is. If there was any conspiracy at work, they would surely have a plausible cover story. This is just muppetry by v young, very inexperienced, badly led police staff who are way out of their depth.
As a waiter we would spend 20 minutes before events for briefing on a number of things we should know for said event. These were usually weddings but in cases of orgs hosting we were forced to learn their titles, names and mission statements of the organizations. Why are waiting staff more informed than the police?
@@tubthump My point is just that the police are incompetent and I think it is by design. I just cannot figure out for the life of me, why? The only thing that makes sense is an extreme ideology from the 1850's that was warped by American politics. Maybe it's just the opposite of a right-wing totalitarian state where the church would call pokemon evil and try ban them, Now it's Christians are evil? Either way it's not right to govern this way.
How can the government blame the non existing EDL for things and say justice will be quick on them but let this go with nothing said, 2 tier all the way.
U got that wrong,Edl blames immigrants for everything not everyone blames EDL for everything,maybe if spend some time with people whom you hate and got to know them u would find out but ignorant cunts love company
You ain’t seen nothin yet .. With Labour at the helm you have got much to look forward to:- Socialist, Globalist, Corporatist true believers, Social Governance, Diversity Equity and Inclusion. A woke moral order. Radical, progressive ideology. Mainstream, state controlled, media propaganda. Neo-Malthusianism. Sexual fetishism. Transsexual sexualisation of our children. Poisonous toxic hyper processed foods and pharmaceuticals. Social credit scores, Digital identities. Surveillance capitalism. Central bank digital currency. Globalist techno-totalitarianism. Lawfair. Activist judges. Never ending wars. Thought police. State 'ownership' of our kids. Debanking of political opposition. Technocratic theocracy. A Therapeutic state. Disease imperialism, A censorship industrial complex, information control, gaslighting, pathological lying, permacrisis, behavioural change units, sustainable development goals, ‘leaving none behind’, collective well-being-duty, Universal Basic Income, financial surveillance, tokenisation, perception management, anarchical tyranny, people as fungible economic units and Net f’ing Zero. You definitely wouldn’t want to miss any of that.
I feel like most police time is wasted on marches, vigils, protests & counter protests nowadays. These gatherings should be banned entirely in my opinion. Something happens on the other side of the world nowadays & a British police officer gets something chucked at him due to it.
The 2 coppers sounded completely clueless. This is the fault of senior officers , the coppers on the ground should have been given a brief of what’s going on.
Their attitude is deplorable as they made no attempt to check what he said, but ultimately their senior officer who deployed them needs holding to account.
@@JM-dm3qk to be fair this is not opposing genocide this is mourning the leader of a terrorist organisation. i am against what is happening in gaza but this is not the same
Either the ignorance is astounding or the bias is frightening...
Hard to choose…..🥸
Or both ?
They can barely name the organization Paul, that tells us everything.
why not both? They know full well that they're supporting a terrorist, they just didnt think it had legal framework to allow them to do anything about it and shouted down the member of public raising the alarm, its both Ignorant and a bias simultaneously, these officers should be on adminstrative leave until they pass a test regarding the common laws of the country, focusing in on politics. If they cannot do it, they get the sack for negligence & or gross misconduct.
Not ignorance Paul,definite bias under instruction from their superiors?Mark Rowley.Not sure which site it's on maybe Wikispooks,I know not entirely reliable but they have some info on Rowley which may answer a few questions.
Sir Mark Rowley, the Commissioner of the Metropolitan Police is unfit for the job. He has made some appalling decisions.
Stamer ,khan and Rowley are the three people who are destroying London
The Laughable Policeman.
@@Daisyworld743. Ah Ha, Ha, Ha, Ha, Ha , Ha, Ha, Ha Ha ha.😂
He is also an arrogant hypocrite.
It’s done by design , do you honestly not realise he is taking orders from higher authority
Ignorance of the law is no defence.
Hear, hear, well said.
@@stevemcmahon100 They were sent to police that event by their superiors who do know what they are doing. We all need to be scared with that type of leadership in charge of our police forces.
@@williamsykes7803And,”I was only following orders” never bodes well as history suggests!
Ignorance of the law is no defence - unless you're a policeman. That's unfortunately been a saying for decades.
They probably didn't learn Arabic at school, (like most of us Brits), and the word meant nothing to them.
I have now googled it: Hezbollah means 'Party of God', and is a Lebanese Shia Islamist militant group and political party that has been designated as a terrorist group by most western nations. - Plod now please take note. It's the law.
Police ignorance of the law is no excuse, they would nick us stating this
Two clueless muppets.Obviously a fairly low standard required to join the Met.
These two have degrees.... It's an entry requirement
Says it all then...paper pushers...we need real live honest working class coppers!@@PorchBass
IQ bigger than shoe size, you're in!
@@PorchBassdegrees in woodwork and macrami.
@@PorchBassdegrees in wokism
Why is anyone surprised ?
We are not surprised...we are outraged!
@@paradoxicalcat7173 Not even outraged, waste of energy.
@@Sython6waste? It starts with awareness that turns into anger and I let you figure the rest out
When the BBC are calling terrorists 'fighters', I'm not surprised.
@@SashaBaron112 Sitting there getting angry helps nothing. Better to be productive and do something about it. If you can't do anything about it, why bother getting angry and making yourself misserable in the process. Its better to have control over your emotions to stay calm and make better decisions.
Most of the reason nobody talks to each other about this stuff is because of how angry it makes us.
When the police are willing to put a Facebook poster in jail of "incitement", but take no action on what is a vigil on a leader of a terrorist group, you know the country has taken a wrong turn somewhere.
Agree.
About 120 years ago when we let the Fabians dictate politics.
The road this country is going down is quite scary!
But but but the facebook poster was clearly "posting while white"
@@LibertarianGalt this law indicates the Fabians are still in power. if i was British I'd be pooping my pants round about now.
And this is just another example of why people have lost faith in the British police.
Daniel, the pure ignorance of these Met officers is mind-boggling. As you say, one would be hard put to make this stuff up!
Absolutely incredible!
Don't believe they are that thick. They are not allowed. Therefore, they are trying to change the perspective. A deniel of truth.
If you want examples of terrorist organisations, look no further than reform uk party, IDF, shin beth, mossad, mi5, mi6, home office, uk border force, pfizer, moderna, cia, fbi, the us gubberment, the ukstan gubberment... Nuff said.
The opinion of the gubberment is entirely irrelevant!
@@wordwordfulyeah I think this
They (police in general) arent particularly intelligent and rarely understand the law but I think you’re right and they’re just playing dumb in this case
Deny deny deny looks bad on social media BUT it looks better than saying the wrong thing and blowing up (excuse the pun 😂) on social media
This is my goal now - embarrass them on social media until they start making changes 😂
Rough and ready atm but will improve as I go
These are just regular people who want to do their job of keeping peace and don't do heavy research on politics.
Isn't that alright?
I didn't know it either
Everyone is so unfair demanding everyone must have specialist knowledge or they're evil
@@BCrossing No, it's absolutely not alright.
How quick would they arrest Tommy Robinson if he did anything like this?
Our Police are clueless automatons.
Took the words right out my mouth hahah but it’s shocking they are allowing this and that’s what they are doing ALLOWING them this to happen
Poor old Tommy.🤪
Tommy is a white British native, aka public enemy no 1
@wirdy1
There are 1.3 Muslims living in the Greater London area. Lets say half are female so that leaves 650K males. Let's again say only half of them are of an age to violently demonstrate as is their wont, that is 325K who may take to the streets which is far more that the total of police officers in England and Wales. This is an example of simple two fear policing where they will happily batter white folk but fear the interloper and even import more for cops to be frightened of.
@@Mitch-l5uyou’re on the wrong side of fair, common sense and logic.
The police are not fit for purpose ..
They are only as good as their superiors who are responsible.
@@emstirling-is4nu I was only doing my job . Who else in history used that sorry excuse . If they disagree with what they are being asked to do them they should not do it
@@emstirling-is4nu Exactly, and whoever they are, they are clearly not doing their job properly.
Embarrassing. We have become a laughing stock of the world.
The is the result of shrinking the police force then rapid re-expansion to meet figures to band about in the media.
We should not be surprised - two tier policing is a reality.
Ex senior police officer is devastated as to how low my former job has sunk. Thanks BB Barrister.
Thank you for your service. Can only imagine how much more this must strike you. One can only pray that things will turn around shortly.
Can you not give you old pals a call who are still in and ask what the hell is going on
Pension a third of your salary ?
@@HolyGhost825. The force will have been purged of anyone with an ounce of common sense. 🤪 Too late matey.
It was a pretty low bar in your time too.
Those police knew what was going on 100%.
Yeah I don't buy it for a second, it's a de-escalation tactic, they knew exactly why they were there.
To me they came across as genuinely ignorant. Incredible if they are ignorant; even worse if they knew what they were doing and acted dumb to ‘diffuse’ the situation.
Nah, ignorant. No clue and no interest.
@@rodneyfungus8249 It's plain as day, "I'm not allowed a political opinion" come on bro...
Nah. They didn't have a clue.
How dumb can these police really be , frightening!
They are scared.
@@PorchBassthey're complicit!!
@@PorchBassthey are low iq individuals specifically employed by the police.
@@PorchBassTrue, they were sent to police that event by their superiors who do know what a proscribed banned organisation is. We all need to be scared with that type of leadership in charge of our police forces.
@@PorchBass True, they were sent to police that event by their superiors who do know what a proscribed banned organisation is. We all need to be scared with that type of leadership in charge of our police forces.
Our PM, being a former DPP should be making sure our Police are upholding the law.
He should do something about those industrial goggles he wears first. He's the F**king PM, FFS, get something less embarrassing to the nation.
Hopefully the police will be prosecuted for this.
Do you not need a minimum number of brain cells in order to be prosecuted ?
Don't you need to commit an offence to be prosecuted of one?
THEY DONT WORK FOR US ANYMORE
Don’t hold your breath
@@TheElizabethashby
They never did, their primary purpose is to protect the establishment and they'd throw their own children under a bus if instructed. They are utter cowards and traitors.
They should've had a briefing before going on this vigil / demonstration
They will have been and they will have been told to behave like this, worrying isn't it.
Their cultural sensitivity imam was probably busy buying fertiliser and acids so couldnt brief them in the correct 2 teir policy
@@ddoherty5956 100% correct!
They should have been ordered to disperse the demonstrators and/or make arrests.
They are told everyday to not upset the Terrorist sympathisers,I’m just surprised they weren’t handing out warm drinks.🤮
These officers would have been ordered to attend. Lock up their shift manager/ sergeant.
Key word. Clueless! Sums up the police generally.
And many people...
@@justinengland9814but if you are a serving police officer surely you should know the law.. that's the difference here
Another example of 2 Tier Policing, the new norm in TTKs Britain.
@@SandraMorrison-eb7tq It seems many police officers are either breaking the law or simply bodies with no clue... It is worrying!
The two coppers need the sack. The Met needs to uphold the law. As a copper of nearly 30 years, I am embarrassed and shocked.
Embarrassed it was highlighted no doubt
Part of the problem
They are not fully trained police officers, just CPS on secondment
That's why they don't uphold the law. They'd be sacked instantly.
Well said Sir.
@@Cdr_Mansfield_Cumming you mean arrest those at the vigil? Like you did for any of the dead IRA men? You know that they are there primarily to keep the peace. We were all told to leave the Terrorism Act to the ATB. Even the lawyer is only saying that there maybe a breach of the law. There lack of knowledge on the subject would be down to a poor briefing. Despite the IRA bombing campaign going on in the 70s and 80s we got no training on Terrorism other than dealing with suspect items, cordons etc.
I can understand the ignorance on display by some here but if you were really Job you are at best being disingenuous.
Our own police are protecting a literal terrorist vigil. This is unreal.
Not really police should protect everyones rights. Even people who agree with terrorists.
What is a "literal terrorist vigil". What do you think they do - throw IUDs or something? I suppose you support all the rioters that got thrown in jail after the "Nigel Fartage" riots?
@Jisei13 they are preventing a breach of the peace, or worse. So I agree with you.
@@Jisei13 that's what's wrong with the world and our country in particular.
@@Jisei13I think you may be wrong when they are supporting a terrorist organisation. Which he goes into in this video
Thank you BBB, this is very educational
Support of these organisations is allowed; support for the British people is not. Weird that.
There quick at approaching Christian Speakers just reading a passage from the Bible
Hail Odin!
And arrested then appearing in court and asked to swear an oath on the bible
@@nickcoppard5335that is shocking, I hadn't thought of that
@@nickcoppard5335Wow,you are right haha,never thought of that one😂
@@bettywhiting7699you are brainwashed not to think so not surprised
The madness continues
The police will always back whoever they are told too!
arrest those officers... as we're always told, ignorance of the law is no excuse...
Okay gammon take a seat.
Ignorance of the law is not an excuse.
You and all 100 likes completely misunderstand the phrase you retards 😂
That only applies if you commit a crime, the Met officers are not accused of a crime, they are accused of not doing their job, which is not a crime.
Furthermore, The met are absolutely right.
Mourning a person is not "support of a proscribed organisation"
Otherwise we would arrest their mum and dad for burying them and their entire families and anyone who visits them in prison😂
No wonder you lot think the earth is flat 🤣🤣🤣
Yes!! 😂😂
The Met Police appear to be trained to the highest standard of incompetence! Regards
Like the current govt
They stay by the rule "don't touch sh*te, so it won't smell", the problem is, if you don't clean the sh*te will fill the entire house eventually.
@@SusanDean-n7x Like any govt!
Well said. It's the police's job to enforce the law. IGNORANCE IS NO EXCUSE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
thats what we are told, but their real job is to support the state. the law comes 2nd.
You are so dumb its actually funny 😂
Excellent video Dan, you hit the nail on the head at 7:23 ... the two officers urgently need to be taken off such duties and need to attend a training course so that they know when to act and who to arrest if things go sour.
There is an old saying, "Ignorance is no excuse for the law!" It should apply to police officers doubly.
it used to, by the tennants and statutes that govern their position they are supposed to understand all laws in all forms. here is an act of gross misconduct
No. The old saying is "ignorance of the law is no excuse".
And the word is "tenets", not "tennants". Two completely different nouns.
Indeed it should. Indeed so. I also always believed it to be a legal principle that a person who is unaware of a law may not escape liability for violating that law merely by being unaware of its content.
The level of ignorance of the law amongst those who are paid to uphold should be a source of great concern. The probable truth here is that these officers, however ignorant they may be (and these two came across as probably being ignorant of many things), were ordered on this occasion, not to enforce the law in question.
It's why the bible says that "leaders" will be held to a "higher standard" at the "judgement seat".
They will have no excuse when they are on their knees in front of the One True Living God.
@@dizwell It's also a very dumb saying. The law changes daily and none of these changes are published anywhere your average Joe would ever find it.
It feels like this country has fallen. Beyond all hope now I’m afraid. Makes me sad seeing it this way now.
I'm afraid sad is an understatement.
Late stage Usury.
Never say never....Stand together. They are trying to divide the patriots.
When you’ve finished being sad i hope you’ll help us fight this tyranny.
Three weeks wet work will get it back on track . I would need a section D notice on it and the keys to a lot of Crematoriums
Sadique Khan and the Chief of the Metropolitan police need to be sacked.
Prosecuted for treason more like
Or better yet: arrested for supporting a proscribed terror organization.
Thats the problem, we know where Khan's priorities lie - wouldn't have happened under Boris
They need to be arrested for allowing support .
He needs to be prosecuted.
Well done, Rowley and Khan . Showing your true colours!
It is complete bullshit that those two officers didn't know what was going on. Surely they would have had a briefing about the event they were protecting, what it was about, the possible response to the event, and who by. I bet they are all told to plead ignorance and neutrality if confronted or questioned by a member of the public. If the Police are lying and misleading (or intimidating and threatening members of the public with arrest/prosecution to keep them quiet), for fear of the response from a particular group, then it is proof that the group in question is a HUGE problem in the country.
They are just Starmers Cannon Fodder. They are on a need to know basis and they dont need to know.
Dreadful policing. The mindset of these constables is thoroughly disturbing
Their superiors need a wake-up call. THEY are definitely not doing their jobs.
Their mindset is commendable - do your job, keep the peace. Brave officers - would you do their job?
@@Zoid22 No, police have other important functions than keeping the peace. O)therwise bullies of all kinds would reign supreme.
@@Zoid22 oh dear, I take it you haven’t watched many of these then
Two tier Britain at its finest.
Thank heavens we have you speaking up so everyone understands their rights and when there’s an abuse of the law by other.
One of the most common rebukes from an authority figure is saying “that’s your opinion” when confronted by facts which they want to deny.
They don't care about laws, only opinions. Theirs, actually.
Well done foe exposing the Met's wilful ignorance
The met are absolutely right.
Mourning a person is not "support of a proscribed organisation"
Otherwise we would arrest their mum and dad for burying them 😂
Surely you know the difference between supporting a proscribed organisation and mourning the death of your friend or family member, no?
@@hiyorisarugaki1830 Strawman.
@@TheGreatoutdoorsAndGourmetVic No it's not a strawman you fool.
Is obvious that its not illegal to mourn a criminal. You lot are just making things up because you don't like it.
Facts dont care about your feelings
Well done BBB thank you for your enlightenment.
They aren't there to police the event, they are there to protect the event!
and that has become very obvious over the last few months..but what is really scary is that they are siding with the others..your country is in big trouble and it is only going to get worse,,you guys need to do something other than turning your heads...Canada
The MET are great at limbo. No matter how low the bar is set for them they seem to slide under it.
Snakes...Slither slither.....
As an ex member of the Met, I absolutely despair at the moronic stupidity of an organisation that is no longer fit for purpose. The total lack of decent leadership is astounding.
And that is why people are leaving!
Okay member of the MET lol.
Answer 1 question. Is it a crime to go to the funeral of your own child if they was a terrorist and mourn them?
Or are you calling that support for a terror organisation too. Because its the exact same thing.
Mourning a person, is not support of a terror organisation you fool, that fact you don't know that is alarming. Please resign.
@hiyorisarugaki1830 No its not- this was not a family funeral. Stop using fallacious arguments to try and justify a terrorist vigil.
@@TheInsida1 Vigil is when people stay up at night. Since this event happened in day light, it means you don't know what you're talking about.
Not only families attend funerals, friends go too.
Im sorry, but where does it say, only family members can mourn a terrorist? you're just making things up. haha
Also what is fallacious in what is said? do you actually understand the words you are using?
A religious vigil is normally held at night but not entirely. However it’s common for people to enact a vigil over the death of someone during daylight hours too.
I thought there was an adage which goes, “Ignorance of the law is no defence.”
The problem is the ignorance of the law enforcement
Yes, I thought a responsible adult should keep themselves informed of the law. Part of living in a law abiding society.
Depends on who you are.
That only applies to the Peasants, The police are clearly above the law look at past evidence of that.
There is, THEY are ignorant.
Top-man does a 'top- job' once again, excellent work.
Your analysis and to those who view the video is a strikingly straightforward one in light of the amount media coverage of the events taking place in the Middle East. Shame on these young ignorant bobbies. I hope their superiors take them to task. As is often pointed out- ignorance of the law is no excuse.
To me this represents an abject failure of leadership of the MET! The fact that these officers do not know the basic politics/sensitivities/law with regards to a very controversial meeting that they are responsible for policing is unforgivable! Having served in Northern Ireland we were constantly briefed with the political nuance of a particular march/protest/demonstration for very obvious reasons. Why is the MET not doing the same for all of its officers?
You answered it in the first sentence Doug: abject failure in leadership! 👍
Tks for yr service Sir. You would think since they are 1st responders so-to-speak that they would not be briefed ?after education. Why are they not responding to this as it is a terrorist organization? There needs to be a very deep dive into this mess.
Leadership of the Met as in Sadiq Khan 😂
They're indoctrinated.
They dont care, clearly.
Surely we deserve better than the Police Farce we have now...
sadly, I'm not sure that we do
We deserve everything we tolerate.
People get the policing that they deserve. As a nation, Britain has not backed police. It has stood by over the last 15-20 years, policing has been degraded away. People continue to consume anti-police media (almost all of the media) and do not make any demands on local or national politicians nor media for the last decades. People stood by and allowed police powers to be rolled back and police to be labelled racists as an entire group. People did nothing when public order policing was scaled back to an almost entirely passive role. When the 2012 riots happened, no-one questioned why they occurred and was policed as they were. People were happy to simply call the police "useless" and carry on. There is no other group in the country that works under the threat from both within and without that police do. In no other career field (except the armed forces) do you give up all your employment rights, legal rights and human rights. In no other career field is there the expectation that you will be subjected to daily criminal threat - but also threatened with criminal sanction for doing your job exactly as you were trained to do.
Who would have thought Britain would become the ultimate Monty Python show in real life! RIP Britain!
Nope just keep paying your taxes and move along citizen
It's a pretty sad day when our police don't know the laws they are supposed to know!! Supporting terrorism? I hope not!
They have obviously been told to act like this.
They are de facto supporting terrorism by allowing terrorist supporters to hold a vigil!?!
Absolutely
They're basically the sharia arm for is l am
They know
I'm sure I am not alone in the conviction that I now live in a country (England) that I don't recognise and I have not moved.
So why wasn't relevant action taken?. Ignoring it isn't going to make it disappear. This isn't going to end well.
All this two tiering only leads to one singular point and it's never good.
I'm truly sick to death of this country, neither the Government or Police know what they are doing
@MrBeats44 They know exactly what they are doing.
They know exactly what they are doing.
They know exactly what they are doing.
But you trust them when they proscribe Hizbollah?
An organisation I am absolutely certain you know nothing about.
At least all the bots agree with you 😂
Just frightening and disgusting that our police do not know that they are a terrorist organisation. What hope do we have of a law abiding country zero?
They police do know Hezbollah is a proscribed terrorist organization. Every one of them knows!
Husks, just how the tyrants like 'em.
This is very easy to say from the comfort of a computer. Very few other people have jobs where they are scrutinised as to the minutae of a very wide ranging subject matter, and expected to know the answer immediately on the street. If you walked up to a doctor in the street, showed him a boil on your leg and demanded that he tell you what it is - if he was not able to immediately tell you, would you say that is "frightening and disgusting"?
How many ordinary citizens know all the proscribed organisations? Do you? Did you even know Hezbollah was before reading this post? Care to list all the others; without looking them up?
@@garrym5682 They could at least know the basics or a quick call to their advisors when needed but no just blatantly do what they like.
Those two "dummy's" WERE supporting a terrorist meeting!!!!
dummies.
If you want to know who your masters are ask who it is you cannot question or criticize.
dhimmis, not dummies!
It’s all about bowing down & taking the knee
As we used to say “ You can always tell a Met Officer…… but never very much” Their ignorance is astounding ,
These people are utterly vacuous. Why do they wear that uniform?
UTube will not allow my reply...sry.
Because being a police officer is about know the right skin tones your allowed to arrest now rather that actually policing without fear or favour they are scared to have their families targeted because that’s what these savages do and because we are civilised they know we wouldn’t so we now live in a world of white ain’t right
For the power it enables them to wield.
In the world of law enforcement, one might expect a certain level of competence and professionalism. However, there are days when it feels like the police force has taken on a group of work experience students who are just trying to figure out which end of the baton to hold.
This crap is happening everyday.
The police get taught about diversity not laws anymore.
Oh don't worry, they'll be revamping the euthanasia laws for us all soon.
they should not have been dispersing it but arresting people for supporting the terrorists.
"ignorance is no excuse"
The Police management should have briefed the officers properly before assigning them.
As a serving officer…this blows my mind…but then the quality of current recruiting supports this outcome!
I'm not suprised this has happened last time it was a nazi flag. As long as the grouping is leftist they are immune to criticism and wholly protected by the police.
As an ex-police officer They’re unbelievable They should know the law. No excuses. That’s the quality of persons being recruited these last 10 years or so.
This religious/terrorist/freedom/lsl*mofas**st fighter and nutter was DEAD. Corpses can't be members of anything. So "performing a vigil for the late Mr X" cannot be understood to be supporting the organisation of which he was a member ... before he was killed. Mr "Black Belt" perhaps needs a little schooling in certain aspects of the law himself. Jus sayin.
This is my experience with younger police officers; they are not very bright at all.
It's beyond shocking
Who runs this ridiculous police "show"....these police unbelievable!!!
Saddick can't
🇺🇸 As an American, I have ZERO RESPECT for the Met Police and Sadiq Khan. I have watched London just become a horrible city in the past 10 years. Sad !!! It used to be a lovely city.
Yep, I agree 👍🏻
People in glass houses.......
The Dem○cr@ts are pushing America to this exact thing!!
The whole of the West is under attack and we're all going downhill very quickly...
As a fellow American I must say that *a few of our big cities* have turned into *unbelievable, nightmarish CHAOS* ; so we're not much better. 🙄 😳
(No shade to you, Roxanne - the shade is directed fully at our government!)
#MAGA2024 BABY!
The Police and the Met in particular are a disgrace. This is outrageous and the head of the Met should resign or better be sacked.
Is it wrong to want those who seek to harm us out of our society?
NO. Stop guilt tripping yourself. Thats what got britain (at broad the west) in this whole hell hole in the first place
Yea, apparently its racist..
The people are peaceful and want peace, remember in northern Ireland when the Government of the time interned all Catholics in case they were going to cause trouble, how well did that go!
Ith Waythithth 😅
@@equaliser2265 There’s surely a whole continuum between breaking up an illegal protest and internment without trial. Shall we perhaps get a grip.
Not only the police but the justice system,not fit for purpose,🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡
There are many people in prison when at trial were told ignorance is no excuse for breaking the law then frond guilty and sentenced.
"That's your opinion that it's not an opinion" were the female police officer's exact words. I had to listen to it going on for 6 or 7 times to transcribe it. Absolutely shocking.
shreks are made of layers
Then these police officers should be prosecuted for at the very least dereliction of duty.
We have an uneducated police force who doesn't know what a crime is. How bad can they get our Police are they trained or just thick.
The police policing Terrorists organisations can you believe it
Yet more evidence of 2-tier policing !
From the responses the Met police give to questioning at these kinds of events I suspect that they have been advised by their superiors to plead ignorance and deflect.
Standards of British policing at the moment is in the toilet.
The senior officer that put those two officers on that duty should be sacked!
Police training involves so much diversity and equality, they just haven’t the time to train officers regarding the law.
Who have had extra training by the iof.
Got it in one.⛳
It hasn't worked in the slightest.
You can tell police recruitment standards has dropped.
Who briefed these coppers prior to being deployed?
The true incompetence lies there.
Probably a grad entry fast track superintendent with pink hair.
This isn't accidental ignorance and incompetence. Two-tier Kier is hard at work behind all this.
As is Khan. They have to go
Who up the chain instructed these officers??? More to the point as they would have a better understanding and should of known better?
It so obviously is. If there was any conspiracy at work, they would surely have a plausible cover story. This is just muppetry by v young, very inexperienced, badly led police staff who are way out of their depth.
Absolutely
@@ks-hg5vo Our worst fears have come true we have woke people in the civil service they most likely infiltrated every political branch at this point.
As a waiter we would spend 20 minutes before events for briefing on a number of things we should know for said event. These were usually weddings but in cases of orgs hosting we were forced to learn their titles, names and mission statements of the organizations. Why are waiting staff more informed than the police?
Well said.
Because you are in a private company...
@@kylemenos maybe if someone had alleged that a crime was taking place the police would have done something about it?
@@tubthump My point is just that the police are incompetent and I think it is by design. I just cannot figure out for the life of me, why? The only thing that makes sense is an extreme ideology from the 1850's that was warped by American politics. Maybe it's just the opposite of a right-wing totalitarian state where the church would call pokemon evil and try ban them, Now it's Christians are evil? Either way it's not right to govern this way.
... because you are acting as hosts?
I hope that those officers will be held to the same standard as the ordinary citizen.
How can the government blame the non existing EDL for things and say justice will be quick on them but let this go with nothing said, 2 tier all the way.
U got that wrong,Edl blames immigrants for everything not everyone blames EDL for everything,maybe if spend some time with people whom you hate and got to know them u would find out but ignorant cunts love company
Those officers were both ignorant and arrogant.
No, just applying Tier two, of Sir Two-Tiers Justice in the UK?
@@del_boy_trotter They seemed too stupid for that.
I don't think that they should deal with things beyond a mop, bucket and a toilet
@@keithfreeman7725 Even for the Met, that sounds too technical.
@@YootubeUK Can't argue with common sense mate?👍
Just how stupid and how much of a liar , and how criminal , and how much do you have to betray your own nation and people
to become a police officer ?
Present requirement is not to have a moral compass.
And yet you were rejected when you tried to join, so you remain on benefits staring at mouldy walls.
What a mess, best thing anyone can do is get out of this country asap. Especially before they introduce the leaving tax!!
I cant deal with any more of this BS. 70 years is enough.
You ain’t seen nothin yet .. With Labour at the helm you have got much to look forward to:-
Socialist, Globalist, Corporatist true believers, Social Governance, Diversity Equity and Inclusion. A woke moral order. Radical, progressive ideology. Mainstream, state controlled, media propaganda. Neo-Malthusianism. Sexual fetishism. Transsexual sexualisation of our children. Poisonous toxic hyper processed foods and pharmaceuticals. Social credit scores, Digital identities. Surveillance capitalism. Central bank digital currency. Globalist techno-totalitarianism. Lawfair. Activist judges. Never ending wars. Thought police. State 'ownership' of our kids. Debanking of political opposition. Technocratic theocracy. A Therapeutic state. Disease imperialism, A censorship industrial complex, information control, gaslighting, pathological lying, permacrisis, behavioural change units, sustainable development goals, ‘leaving none behind’, collective well-being-duty, Universal Basic Income, financial surveillance, tokenisation, perception management, anarchical tyranny, people as fungible economic units and Net f’ing Zero.
You definitely wouldn’t want to miss any of that.
Its not a crime to mourn a terrorist,
Otherwise we would arrest everyone at the funeral.
You just dont like people who hate Israel.
Free Palestine
Effing ridiculous
I feel like most police time is wasted on marches, vigils, protests & counter protests nowadays. These gatherings should be banned entirely in my opinion.
Something happens on the other side of the world nowadays & a British police officer gets something chucked at him due to it.
Well, this is what happens when police are recruited for DEI postulating.
As I understand it, ignorance of the law is no defence. Therefore they should be prosecuted.
Who will arrest them?
It's now a moral obligation that we resist the state goons.
The officers were probably there on the direction of their superiors. It is the hierarchy that is to blame.
There's tons of video out there show these so-called LEO's are complicit as well!!
That was my thought too. Its higher up than them that needs to be blamed. They were just following orders
@@susiel9612 and here I thought the British were so intelligent and educated themselves on factual information. 🤔🤔😒😒🙄🙄
Same excuse the brownshirts of 1930s germany said
@@SMichaelDeHart Not plod...
It still amazes me that the terrorism act is put on the back shelf
The 2 coppers sounded completely clueless. This is the fault of senior officers , the coppers on the ground should have been given a brief of what’s going on.
The Met has gone so far downhill he cannot be salvaged.
What the hell has become of our country? The majority of us feel the same yet we are pushed aside for the MINORITIES! RESET OVERDUE!!!!
Go to Gaza and see what your country caused in 1948.
Their attitude is deplorable as they made no attempt to check what he said, but ultimately their senior officer who deployed them needs holding to account.
Absolutely disgusting! The way Labour keep defending the wrong side says a lot.
All very worrying for the future of our children!
Are you talking about the opposing genocide side?
Labour are the wrong side.
it doesn't matter what the situatioin is, the jews are ALWAYS the wrong side.
@@JM-dm3qk to be fair this is not opposing genocide this is mourning the leader of a terrorist organisation. i am against what is happening in gaza but this is not the same