How to Pack a Rucksack
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- One Shepherd's 9-minute training video "How to Pack a Rucksack" employs the USGI Medium ALICE.
The specific focus of this training is for combat patrols in environments other than mountain warfare. Mountain warfare includes climbing and rappelling tasks that necessitate a weight distribution of placing the heaviest items closer to the center of gravity -- the spine.
That exception aside, the majority of combat environments demand a weight distribution of heaviest items placed as close to the shoulder blades as possible, and balanced left to right. Furthermore, notice that items of immediate need are intentionally placed in the outside pockets, flaps, or added onto either side of the rucksack where they can be accessed readily.
This training video makes recommendations. Your unit will, of course, develop its own Standard Operating Procedure.
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If you put the sleeping bag at the bottom of the ruck sack and the sleeping pad at the top, your legs and hips carry the weight and leaves less of a burden on your back and shoulders.
way i do it and back in day use the dry bag for sleeping bag 5 gal gas can straps hold it to the pack old belts
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Yes! The heaviest load should be in the middle of the lower back/bottom of the ruck, NOT up high. Packed like this, one slight bend over to avoid a tree branch and the ruck will either slide off or pull the wearer over onto their head-bad load plan!
the best optimal way is matching your body's axis of movement and center of gravity with the pack, making it as dense and uniform in weight as possible, in the shape of a box from top of the shoulders to the bottom of lower back. but yeah, if you have one thing heavier than anything else but for some reason you refuse to spread it evenly, which is best, but the heavy crap handles best at the top of the back, then lower. it's fine if you stack extra stuff, heavy loads as high as you want, because there will be weight at the bottom to counter act it making it impossible to fall over as long as you pack it evenly. i guess this is what tribes in africa have figured out thousands of years ago lol. and why mountain trekkers will always stack things up high before adding downward force or back pulling force coming from the middle or bottom of your pack. it throws everything off.
Very professional video, many thanks. I worked hard to properly pack my alice (large) and now laugh at what I was told..."dump that crap out and load this....02 claymores, 02 radio batteries, 04 belts 60 ammo, 02 smoke grenades, 02 CS grenades, 01 night scope. I ended up with room for a poncho liner, all of my Crats placed in my socks tube style and a towel and toothbrush/razor in the top flap. I also ended up with every 2 qt and 1 qt canteen I could attach. Water and ammo was the motto of the day. Thank you for this video.
Field stripping the MREs will take up less space, and save you from having to slice them open in the field.
RIP Eastwind.
Thank you for the information. I am doing that next time I go hunting
This was great, been searching for "jungle survival guide" for a while now, and I think this has helped. Have you ever come across - Ryanzon Survival Genie - (just google it ) ? Ive heard some pretty good things about it and my neighbour got excellent success with it.
Yeah, but don't forget that the bag is very useful they can pack anywhere empty. Armor use them as toilets
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I would try to keep the socks more easily accessible. My preference. I've always taken care of my feet. And changing socks is such an easy and overlooked way to keep your feet healthy for the hike.
1990 all over again. Thank you!
Apart from protecting gear from water, one of the best uses is for an emergency shelter.
You can make a small pup tent or a lean to with it. A lot of people I know who like to pack light when hiking will carry one or two tarps and make their shelters from nylon cord and sticks they cut in the woods.
Being in the UK. I have a Arctic sleep bag and mount it on the bottom of my pack using an alice sleep system carrier. Ive never seen the spagetti straps before, so this was informative. Thanks.
A forced road march with a loaded ALICE is an ass whoop.
Finally, a basic no frills load out. I have been looking for this for some time.
Subbed, liked, and shared on stumbleupon. Great vid!
That Pancho should be inserted into the cover of ruck so when it rains it's easy access. The sleeping bag on top prevents the head from looking forward while in the prone position. You could easily pack more... stuff, jam, cram that stuff in. That sleeping bag is twice as big as it should be.
Fantastic Video on How to properly Load an ALICE pack with all of the essentials and yet still Have room for other items. This video reminds Me of the Old style Military ones I used to watch in Boot Camp back in San Diego when I was a wee younger.
best video i have seen with dealing with a sleeping bag on the ALICE and where the shoulder straps need to be positioned.
Great videos, gentlemen!
I feel more confident concerning my previous purchase of my medium ALICE pack(s).
Thanks - I enjoyed your video.
This is a very interesting and informative video. Thanks for posting it.
thank you so much for this video :) learned so much about weight distribution and comfortable using a alice :) now i really love this pack even more !!!
man my family was kinda poor where I had this kinda bag used by my grandfather as a school bag, man we're those the day's
Average Joe the best school bag ever in my opinion I had the same one, money was tight growing up and my parents went to a surplus store and bought me a bag that in my dads exact words "won't wear out and will last you until you finish school" it only just wore out about 2 months ago which is nearly 2 years after I left school
Hamish Dow dang that's really cool man
Back when a man made due with what he had.
Lol ramen noodles
Average Joe 1204 Sounds like my college days haha. That and lots of cheap, crappy beer lol. Ahhhh, good times.
Thank you for teaching the sleeping bag hitch system to the backpack. Good video.
Awesome video sir!
great video thanks for sharing always learning
This is an awesome video on packing the medium alice pack, and I will refer back to it when necessary. You guys should put out a video on packing the large alice rucksack, I just got one but it's a little tricky to pack correctly. Thanks.
And this can be yours, if the Price is right.
"Two hundred dollars, Bob!"
Great video by the way. The ruck looks good.
Outstanding informative video. Thank you sir
Outstanding video. Thank you!
You could use the compression straps of the compression sack to compress your fart sack, then it wouldn't look like you strapped your sea bag to your ruck.
Also, those spaghetti straps are all wrong. Those are used with the M-1956 web gear and carry the blanket/sleeping bag and shelter half, and those snap tab deals sure enough are an attachment point, they run under your arms and attach to the rectangular rings on the front of the M-1956 suspenders, the sewn tab at the end just keeps it from running through the adjustment buckle.
Most of your other fails have already been covered by others.
They don't care though, they probably make a mint off of training people who are not gonna question them on their explanations of things.
Well done sir, very educational!
Great stuff guys. All the way from the U.K.
Insightful and informative. Both did a fine job. Thanks.
Great video! I find myself checking back and re-watching this video every fall as I pack for bowhunting. Thanks for the great info.
Thanks Matt!
Good job matt
Pretty Spot on, aside from a couple of Squad specifics distributed, but all in all, this is a great one.
Great video, tried repacking with some of this in mind and I think it will wear much better!
Given that the weight difference between the entrenching tool and magazine pouch can vary significantly, the two canteens should be attached to the bottom of the ruck, not the top ( even though they would most likely be worn on a pistol/tactical belt or a load bearing harness).
Great video, thanks!
Thanks brother.
Great job! Thanks for this info. Anthony.
Great info....I'll keep this in mind when I repack my bug-out bag.
Awesome video, thanks from Spain.
Good vid ! Thanks for posting !
Best damn video I have seen yet. Outstanding! Keep them coming, please!
you are easily pleased.
Most unit SOPs (standard operating procedures) require your sleeping mat on the top of the ruck and require your sleep system stuff pack to be packed inside the ruck.
Straight forward information.
Awesome video. Quite informative. Gracias.
well done vide and good advice. thanks
Awesome video, thanks from the uk
Great video, man.
great video !
great video
Our 19 Delta Cavalry Scouts carried more than that PLUS a PRC -77 Squad Radio :)
Night vision equipment and optics are considered sensitive items and there for have to be carried on your person and would never be allowed to be stored in your ruck!!
I use a viet nam lg ponco liner with a fleece throw sewn onto it. It is sewn up as a bag. Note with modern liners you may need to sew a fleece strip down the bag if the liner can't fully wrap around you. Wt=2.8lbs. It will take you down to 50 with light brown Mil- poly balaclava,clothes, and heavy socks. I made a light nylon hammock. Left a small hole in bottom of the bag. Run the para cord that cinches the end of the hammock through the hole. Pull liner up around you. Don't need a bag or pad.
Awesome gear it gust looks so cool and stay cool
thanks for the video
Very good vid!! 👌🏿
Thank you😺
Really usefull! Thak you for detailed info.
good video thank for the information!
Is that John Candy narrating?
Hahaha 😜😈
Sure sounds like it!
@@squirreltamer2548 hahaha!!!!
Hahaha omg I never realized that.
That’s not a real gun! That’s a pellet gun!
I like your channel keep the vids coming.
Great question! The Bivy (read: Gortex water proof) bag is a cover slip that your sleeping bag is put into to make water proof. From there your simply "Stuffing" your now water proofed covered sleeping bag system into the Black Compression bag (read "Stuff bag"). Ive conducted patrolled over alot of miles in alot of weather conditions ( read rain..heavy heavy rain) and it stays perfectly dry on the out side of your Ruck..plus we are always rucking so much stuff that we need that space inside
great vid.
Thanks for guide, good stuf.
Your a hero.
wow ok thanks guys great video now know how too use my pack good too know this thanks again
Man these guys at One Shepherd are squared away!
good tutorial!
I wanna pack like this when I travel!!!
Jeepers. Its certainly a way of doing it, but it ain't too flash.
Couple of points:
1. The sleeping bag sack is effectively useless at keeping the bag dry. Biff it, and shove your sleeping bag in your pack liner, pushing it into the corners of the bottom of the pack.
2. The gigantic tarp is okay, I guess, but a poncho or hootchie will work better (or any 2x3m waterproof sheet with cords). Fold & put in the space between frame and back pad, using some thin bungie cord to hold it in.
3. Biff the spare t-shirt, accept that you're going to get smelly.
4. Biff the MRE heaters, get a gas cooker and break those suckers down into a single bag. Biff all non-essential items.
5. Gore tex trousers are wank unless static. Put them in the top flap of your pack.
6. Randomly stuff the GT jacket into the pouch, shoving it down and in with your thumbs. Leaving a big bit sticking out and cranking the pouch strap down is naff as all fuck.
7. Cut down the sleeping mat and fold, so it will fit more neatly under the top flap (or at the bottom of) your pack.
8. Remove E-tool from the outside of the pack & shove into the bottom, under or beside the sleeping bag.
9. A class kit (NVE, binos, etc.) goes in an outer pouch, not deep in your pack- your 2IC will thank you when he's doing his checks.
In general, this is how a pogue packs an ALICE. She's human as you are, treat her as such, and she'll accept anything with vigorous fisting and loving tenderness.
Very Nice!
Subbed. Great content. Thank you.
we just used the sinch straps to tie down our bivy sacks to the top and boot bands for the iso mats on the bottom.
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Nice vid... ALICE rules!!!
Awsome than.kd for the tips
Mil- brown poly thermals can take you into the 40's, because you are completely surrounded in the hammock by the fleece&liner. Ozark makes a great fleece bag @2.3lbs for same temps. I place GTex jacket in the top flap. Dry bag holds: liner,u-ware,heavy socks,tee,fleece gloves and hat,mid wt thermal, TP and hanky. Inner pouch for a 2 liter hydra-bladder. I use para cord to hang the 48x96" hammock (I'm 69"). Pcord is looped through a sleeve at each end. Use heavy duty thread-6 passes. Cold War Vet
That bit about the tie down straps is wrong. The system was meant for use with the M1956 suspenders that have an eyelet that the button fastener was supposed to loop through.
Good vid
To all those wondering about the spaghetti straps for the sleeping bag, you probably haven't seen them because they are, last I checked, Vietnam vintage from the M1956 webbing set. Not to say they aren't still produced, but just that that's when they are from, so you may not have even been issued them.
thanks much
Strip those MRE's down man. You don't need the whole damn package.
ymp5000 right?
well Mre is meant for 24 hours, breakfast lunch supper etc
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Not the US MREs. They have 1 meal per package.
what was your MOS? I've never been able to save more than a few ounces by stripping down. Best outcome is just to lose the excess packaging.
@@GruntProof It doesnt loose weight more then make the package smaller and easier to back. Ounces lead to pounds too.
Awesome, I just found a guy about 30 minutes away on craigslist with about 90 large/medium ones for $5 each.
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Yeah, I was thinking the same thing when I seen him flip that lightly loaded pack over his head.
One addition. The foraging bag is common throughout NATO and can be seen as a bread bag on most WWII shows. Note that it has a shoulder strap and attached to the belt. It would contain stove, mess kit, canteen, water treatment, and a days rations. It was called a foraging bag as the soldiers would carry it to go to villagers in search of food they were to supply.
In the US military was moved to the rear as a fanny or butt pack or now called a patrol pack.Itvis carried center rear low on the alice or MOLLE.
It was often not used as it was in the way of the rucksack. That was due today Sergeant negligence. The same utility strap or the two quart canteen is a disposable item intended for the patrol pack.
In Alice webbing a patrol pack can be worn at the bottom on the belt, a additional higher up on the back, or with imagination worn on the front as a chest pack. But the most logical place is worn with the shoulder strap on the right hip so the soldier has access to water, food, and other items throughout the day.
So that's where the patrol - butt pack goes! Utility strap missing! What were you thinking?
For local foraging the mess kit may be carried in the patrol bag.
The steel pot was also useful for team potato,carrot,onion,and corn fresh stew. It's a vegetable or cooking pot. Water bucket, etc.
Finally they had a mess kit pouch that fit on Alice harness or earlier
systems. It could also be attached to the pack. ( Due to poisoning of food by partisans in occupied countries foraging or local fodder is replaced by packaged meals.)
Patrol bag utility strap. ( With 2 at canteen #) Correct side wear. Mess kit pouch.
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Used both the small and LRRP size great carriers , the small one is great for 24 hrs
glad I came across this video. been trying to figure out what to pack in my A.L.I.C.E. pack for Airsoft games. thanks
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Airsoft seems like a good way to practice tactics in my opinion. If your ex military or law enforcement
(or even current), seems like a good way to stay sharp in a non-lethal way. Especially if you carry real GI loads.
It is. There are events that are 48 hours long which require both a rucksack and your A bag on top of your 1st and 2nd line stuff. They are very fun and veteran owned/operated/veteran played.
is it just me i love the way he says rucksack :D
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@James . Not you.
Principal.
man, I'm glad we had large rucks during Basic/AIT, can't imagine trying to mess around with those spaghetti straps in the field.
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What do you mean by "The Field"?
Going out to train in the woods. Aka 'field problems' or just the field. We'd go out for a week or two at a time. Do they not do that anymore? Of course almost everyone is Stryker or mech these days. Ain't about that light infantry lifestyle no more.
I think you saw way to much into this considering my name...... I was hoping it would have made you laugh.
I would have the opening for the case containing the entrenching tool facing the other way so that it can be accessed without removing the backpack.
Trying to get the most out of my ALICE mid-size.
Great video, I just have a few questions. What size tarp is that? And what does the military use traps like that for? Thanks.
that's is one thing I love about my ALICE pack is all the I guess MOLLE straps?
I'd like to see your ruck and the improvments you've made.
Now have a Kevlar on your head with that sleeping bag right there. Not going to be an enjoyable patrol. If you take the MRE outa the bag it packs much nicer. I never had a tarp on my packing list. Depending on your environment you don't need both bags and cover for the sleep system it packs much smaller that way. this is good in principal but falls a little short IMO. Mortars are HUNG!!
I have a 40L combat molle pack from the australian army :) very good
Have you seen the hip/belt/suspension technology on backpacks like the osprey argon and gregory baltoro 75 or any of the kelty/rei/arc'teyrex backpacks? Modern packs are fitted to your body size(go to a good outdoor store and get fitted for a pack), most have independent suspension for the shoulder harness, and hip belts. The hip belt,shoulder straps and frame are much more ergonomically designed and padded. The cost is worth the comfort. I use a Gregory Baltoro 75 myself with 55+ lb in gear
Trey, the poncho liner (woobie) is at the bottom, there is no poncho but there is a gortex parka and pants. for rain and cold. Wtach the vid again
The wet weather bag should be turned inside out and all items placed in it. The inside pocket is for a PRC-77 radio. I would find a military issue shovel and case. I will hang better on your military ruck. O designers like to make up numbers. You can't use the same space twice, if you fill that inside pocket, your taking up space on the inside of the ruck. My family has a big military history. Anyway, I found an old FM that showed how to pack your ruck. I have one uncle that went to ROTC. He didn't finish. Funny story there. Not a bad video in general.