Robinswords did a really good video showcasing the different levels of cuts. The flat slap left minor cuts like paper cuts and some bruising. Definitely something to use to attempt to stop a fight without going lethal.
In a wedding involving a naval officer, there will often be a sword arch for the recessional. It's "traditional" for the last two swordbearers to lower their swords to form a gate for the bride and groom, and to demand they kiss before passing. Then, after letting them pass, one of them will provide the bride (or, these days, the spouse of the officer) a gentle slap with the flat of the blade as seen in the beginning of the video, saying "Welcome to the Navy."
There actually was a German man who was being attacked by a drunk man, he tried to use the flat of his sword to discourage the drunk guy but it didn't work so he had to use the edge but in the end he had to grab the drunk man, the guy went to court for murder but was let go because of the bruises and small cuts on the body.(also in Germany at the time stabbing someone was illegal and inhumane)
Striking with the flat of a sword is kinda like shooting to wound with a gun. Both are less effective, harder to pull off, and the courts will still consider it deadly force anyway.
Back in '94 Cold Steel had a demo set up where you could test their blades on a cold rolled steel cuirass. The let me strike it with my Kirby bastard sword. The first strike was edge on and it shredded 9" through the steel. The second strike was with the flat and it accordioned 9" of the steel down to just over an inch. Even with armor, flat can kill. That said, never strike with the intent to injure and not end. Lawsuits follow once they get out of the hospital.
There's a Polish saying "letting someone off with a flat", meaning same as to let someone off the hook. It refers to hitting someone with the flat, instead of the edge and therefore not wounding them
Reminds me of mifune from soul eater. The whole time he first fought black star, he hit him with the dull side. Black star only beat him at the time was how not serious he took it. Granted, mifunes style is absolutely ludicrously extra. But damn its cool!
When the HEMA groups in my state get together to perform at ren faires, sometimes a few of us will spar in that old fechtschule way for the audience, mainly aiming for the shoulders and the torso with the flats of their feders.
Here’s my question. Me and bro were “sparing,” (we’re not fencers or anything, we were just kinda messing around), and I was telling him about how reverse grip is awful. He said “no there’s more control when in short range,” but I don’t buy it. Thoughts?
Would it also be useful against a somewhat armored area on your opponent if you’re concerned with maintaining your blade’s edge for a more solid cut? Especially if you’re in a situation where you’ll have to fight multiple opponents without being able to do maintenance on your sword between fights
I love the detail about self defense. It’s the same with firearms… you can hit a guy with a gun and that shit will knock you out cold 😂 every confrontation isn’t the situation for someone to be killed, mainly because most of the time you’d be jailed and because people don’t deserve to die for starting a fight. A lot of people might not know this and this was very important. The thought of jabbing an attacker with my stainless steel firearm slide and hard polymer base is just hilarious 😂 same with a sword.
I have been watching your video for quite a while now, i am a Filipino can you review our weapon based martial art Arnis (sport Arnis and combat Arnis) if it's effective and practical in actual combat
Sellswords, can't believe you missed the third scenario: disrespect If somehow you are in a fight against someone with a sizable skill gap favoring you, can you get more disrepectful than punishing a big opening with a little flat love tap? Dangerous and probably not fully recommended because if the opponent's thin skinned, this fight can become a bloody skirmish real quick, but think of the juicy flex it'd be to humiliate instead of debilitate. If that isn't a good way to flex the skill diff between you and your opponent, what is?
If that was the point then why do this at all? If I had to hurt less I'd put some fluffy gloves on and do some jiu jitsu. You'll probably just pass out... But if you try to escape too much you might sprain your neck or get cauliflower ear.
Because going unarmed vs somebody with a sword will get you killed quickly. You can still use the spanking as a distraction to go for a grapple, but it might make your opponent reconsider without you having to get into dagger range.
Here I thought you'd be all "NO HITTING WITH THE FLAT IS A STUPID DUMB FICTION THING THAT'S STUPID AND DUMB AND ANYONE WHO DOES IT IS ALSO STUPID AND DUMB"
Have you guys ever seen the super advanced cottos for spears? Yeah, I like to do them but hit with the flat of the spear.I know you just don't Jack.Just cut out the jams.It's super fun.I hate swords so much.My favorite the weighted heavy bladed staff.Yeah the The sword breaker you know the one that the japanese mock and give it to women The techniques on matter unstoppable dude
That NL self defense part is a bit troublesome. 1 you could still be prosecuted for attempted Murray-der because technically that is a 0 HP weapon. Sorry. If I say the wrong thing YT makes my comment vanish. Smacking someone with the flat if they are armored might daze them to get into the cracks of their suit
We actually have some documentation of this happening. Proving that you tried to resolve the situation non-lethally could have been taken into consideration back in the day.
@@SellswordArts O i don't disagree with you about back in the day, but now-a-days if you give someone a RBF too hard you can get in trouble. It's like when people shoot to wound. Anyway. I can see this as a way to taunt opponents during training or chastise pupils too. Thanks for the videos and hard work
Don't know if you comment at this. But what you think about this movie scene? Because everyone says it's most accurate movie Sabre fight: th-cam.com/video/ljExTEPNFnM/w-d-xo.html
Good point on the katana, is that you dont need to hit with the flat, just hit with the dull side not killing either and having no chance of messing up the alignment trying to hit with the flat, also i have an theory that the dull side hurts more than the sharpened side, talking about pain not injure
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Sell sword arts getting FREAKY
Finally? Where have you been 😘
@@SellswordArts🧐🧐
@@SellswordArts ayo!
@@SellswordArts Caught in 4K 😶📸💥💥💥💥💥💥💥
@SellswordArts 😳😳
We call this the spankenhau
😭 yes
Meyer after dark.
😭
@@jesseharrold1812an interesting use of sword techniques
XDDD 😂😂😂😂😂
SellswordArts, are REALLY starting to appreciating those thick, long, blades now, huh.
🤨🏳️🌈?
Yoo???
Robinswords did a really good video showcasing the different levels of cuts. The flat slap left minor cuts like paper cuts and some bruising. Definitely something to use to attempt to stop a fight without going lethal.
If anyone hasn't seen that video yet I highly recommend. There's also a short version of it without commentary
Missed the chance to say
"Sure they're gonna wake up with a nasty headache but at least they'd wake up"
You should’ve said “at least buy me dinner first.”
I'm pretty sure he did lol
Speak for yourself
Gimme that "longsword" 👀
You're friends reactions and face gestures are so comical with every new video. He became a funny actor.
Most “your” misspellings are in the other direction… My guy, you pulled a new level of dummy lol
He’s hilarious! Best sword channel eh
@@gianlucatartaro1335 Désolé que mon anglais ne soit pas au niveau international.
Spicier swing than I expected
That ooOOO was so zesty 😂
bro really said "😠👎" and "😀👍"
In a wedding involving a naval officer, there will often be a sword arch for the recessional. It's "traditional" for the last two swordbearers to lower their swords to form a gate for the bride and groom, and to demand they kiss before passing. Then, after letting them pass, one of them will provide the bride (or, these days, the spouse of the officer) a gentle slap with the flat of the blade as seen in the beginning of the video, saying "Welcome to the Navy."
There actually was a German man who was being attacked by a drunk man, he tried to use the flat of his sword to discourage the drunk guy but it didn't work so he had to use the edge but in the end he had to grab the drunk man, the guy went to court for murder but was let go because of the bruises and small cuts on the body.(also in Germany at the time stabbing someone was illegal and inhumane)
_at the time_ ???
@klh_io like in the 16 or 1700s I think
I thought the bending/flexing of the sword was a bad thing.
I learned something new here.
I can't believe flicks are real swordfighting
"Sword" arts indeed
Striking with the flat of a sword is kinda like shooting to wound with a gun. Both are less effective, harder to pull off, and the courts will still consider it deadly force anyway.
If you've drawn a sword and someone still comes at you...
He really hit the "YEEEOOOWCH!"
Back in '94 Cold Steel had a demo set up where you could test their blades on a cold rolled steel cuirass. The let me strike it with my Kirby bastard sword. The first strike was edge on and it shredded 9" through the steel. The second strike was with the flat and it accordioned 9" of the steel down to just over an inch.
Even with armor, flat can kill. That said, never strike with the intent to injure and not end. Lawsuits follow once they get out of the hospital.
That last one was an awesome demonstration. It looked painful
I love these videos. I learn new things while also getting in a few laughs
Get ready for sellfreakarts
You guys have great comedic timing
Jeans & singlet is an awesome looking fit , suits you
another reason is you're raiden in 2009 and turn the sword around is the only way you won't kill someone with it
There's a Polish saying "letting someone off with a flat", meaning same as to let someone off the hook. It refers to hitting someone with the flat, instead of the edge and therefore not wounding them
Reminds me of mifune from soul eater. The whole time he first fought black star, he hit him with the dull side. Black star only beat him at the time was how not serious he took it.
Granted, mifunes style is absolutely ludicrously extra. But damn its cool!
WooOOooooo got my eyes open 👀
When the HEMA groups in my state get together to perform at ren faires, sometimes a few of us will spar in that old fechtschule way for the audience, mainly aiming for the shoulders and the torso with the flats of their feders.
Man, I love swords
That "woo" was alittle to eager
Gotta be real hard to convince a cop i defended myself using a medival weapon againts squatters
Here’s my question. Me and bro were “sparing,” (we’re not fencers or anything, we were just kinda messing around), and I was telling him about how reverse grip is awful. He said “no there’s more control when in short range,” but I don’t buy it. Thoughts?
I was about to say rebound stab is a thing 😂
How are two muscular grown men so adorable? The little thumbs up/thumbs down melted my heart 😭
The flat is for warning, the edge is the last warning and a thrust is to kill the opponent
my sister says they way your stand makes her think you are gay
me: nah, he probably isnt
*sword slap* "WOO"
me: nevermind xD
Fighting stance is gay now
Would it also be useful against a somewhat armored area on your opponent if you’re concerned with maintaining your blade’s edge for a more solid cut? Especially if you’re in a situation where you’ll have to fight multiple opponents without being able to do maintenance on your sword between fights
Waiting for the crossover event with the bow and arrow youtube shorts guy
Freaky Swords on the loose
Man they preparing me for reincarnation into the medieval ages or smthn
I love the detail about self defense. It’s the same with firearms… you can hit a guy with a gun and that shit will knock you out cold 😂 every confrontation isn’t the situation for someone to be killed, mainly because most of the time you’d be jailed and because people don’t deserve to die for starting a fight. A lot of people might not know this and this was very important. The thought of jabbing an attacker with my stainless steel firearm slide and hard polymer base is just hilarious 😂 same with a sword.
Pretty good idea but I'd rather have something that touches someone 10 meters away than having them within running distance.
These guys definitely sword fight if you know what I mean.
How many takes did you do for that intro
You became Michael Jackson for an instant 😂😂
Sell sword arts < freaky sword arts🥵
Glad to see representation of the average british man's daily self defense carry.
What about if you're trying to inflict bludgeoning damage on a skeleton?
*gets hit by the edge* D: *hit by the flat* :D
head shot risk skull fracture even with padded coif and chainmail without brain bucket to protect you risk is high
I have been watching your video for quite a while now, i am a Filipino can you review our weapon based martial art Arnis (sport Arnis and combat Arnis) if it's effective and practical in actual combat
What if instead of SellSwordArts it was FREAKSwordArts
Yes finally a way to keep them alive i
That 0-100 reference was sly. I have no idea how i got subbed to this channel. No point leaving now.😅
+1 interaction
The best way to fight with a sword is Dual wielding Zweihanders in reverse grip. Change my mind.
Given your mind is gonna be spattered across the back wall, that would make it pretty easy to change XD
@Rachel-fi4sc go on then change it
This is pretty dang 90s
do people carry swords for self defense? That sounds really fun ngl
if someone tried fighting me with a medieval sword I would infact, not fight them
That intro 😂
I do really like long blades
Meyer approves.
I'm sorry, was that sword a little... flacid, David?
Sellswords, can't believe you missed the third scenario: disrespect
If somehow you are in a fight against someone with a sizable skill gap favoring you, can you get more disrepectful than punishing a big opening with a little flat love tap? Dangerous and probably not fully recommended because if the opponent's thin skinned, this fight can become a bloody skirmish real quick, but think of the juicy flex it'd be to humiliate instead of debilitate. If that isn't a good way to flex the skill diff between you and your opponent, what is?
That thumbs up😂
Is that Witcher theme in the background
What if they were called Freaksword arts and got freaky
On the second one,wouldn’t that be self defence?
If that was the point then why do this at all?
If I had to hurt less I'd put some fluffy gloves on and do some jiu jitsu.
You'll probably just pass out... But if you try to escape too much you might sprain your neck or get cauliflower ear.
Because going unarmed vs somebody with a sword will get you killed quickly. You can still use the spanking as a distraction to go for a grapple, but it might make your opponent reconsider without you having to get into dagger range.
Here I thought you'd be all "NO HITTING WITH THE FLAT IS A STUPID DUMB FICTION THING THAT'S STUPID AND DUMB AND ANYONE WHO DOES IT IS ALSO STUPID AND DUMB"
Woo!
What if I want to go from 0 to 2000?
Day 3 of asking for a video on dual wield warglaives of Azzinoth
Wooooh got backshot
Have you guys ever seen the super advanced cottos for spears? Yeah, I like to do them but hit with the flat of the spear.I know you just don't Jack.Just cut out the jams.It's super fun.I hate swords so much.My favorite the weighted heavy bladed staff.Yeah the The sword breaker you know the one that the japanese mock and give it to women The techniques on matter unstoppable dude
Smackenhau
Bros talking about sword Auto safety
My brother WHAT is that shirt? 😭
Tips for Brits right here
I go 0 to 1000 go full god of war on them
In my dreams
But isn't hitting someone in the head in self defense also dangerous? You can get seriously hurt just falling
Or if you're fighting black sp_rm.
That NL self defense part is a bit troublesome. 1 you could still be prosecuted for attempted Murray-der because technically that is a 0 HP weapon.
Sorry. If I say the wrong thing YT makes my comment vanish.
Smacking someone with the flat if they are armored might daze them to get into the cracks of their suit
We actually have some documentation of this happening. Proving that you tried to resolve the situation non-lethally could have been taken into consideration back in the day.
@@SellswordArts O i don't disagree with you about back in the day, but now-a-days if you give someone a RBF too hard you can get in trouble. It's like when people shoot to wound.
Anyway. I can see this as a way to taunt opponents during training or chastise pupils too.
Thanks for the videos and hard work
How foes half swording not hurt your hand
Don't know if you comment at this. But what you think about this movie scene? Because everyone says it's most accurate movie Sabre fight: th-cam.com/video/ljExTEPNFnM/w-d-xo.html
Katana!
Are these guys dating?
Weird flex, but okay.
Hmmmm flat…
or run
Are they yaoi?
I hope they kiss
Or, you just have such a bad aim that you hit them with the flat side.
prellhau! :D
5th also woo
Obligatory comment
You’re* ;)
Y’all are 100% gay, Kiss already!
Why r yall so sus?
Good point on the katana, is that you dont need to hit with the flat, just hit with the dull side not killing either and having no chance of messing up the alignment trying to hit with the flat, also i have an theory that the dull side hurts more than the sharpened side, talking about pain not injure