Glad to know I wasn't the only one that thought this movie was a metaphor for coming out. I am 100% with Alonso on this one. Fantastic movie. I have a hunch this movie might resonate more with LGBTQ+ audiences-- not saying you have to be part of our community to enjoy the film, but it could be why we liked it more than Christy.
I think it is completely fair for personal life experiences to inform a viewer. There are of course universals, but having lived something will of course put a narrative choice far more on target. Once I became a parent, kids in peril/sad stuff hit me far harder. Or more humorously, when Blair Witch (98) came out, I had never camped and so when something was tapping on the tent giggling I found it odd but my buddy who was a burly outdoorsman was white-knuckling his theater seat. After I'd been camping a few times I was like ohhhhhh.
Wow, I was about to comment the same thing. I hadn't realized it till now which is on me but I do believe she is my favorite critic as well. I should've known this since her review of Phantom Thread
I’m with Christy on this one, it didn’t grab me nearly as much as the best Pixar movies. Solid but not great. My six year old son loved it though. I’d give it a 7.
@@JLamstudio Doubt it. It was wasn't a strong movie compared to recent releases.
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By Pixar's standards it's really simple. I mean they leave a lot of story points unresolved (Alberto's dad... what happened to him? What about the bad guy, what's his story?). It's probably the most "made for kids" film in Pixar's history.
I adored this movie. I think it's the best Pixar film in quite a long time - definitely better than Soul, Onward, and Toy Story 4 and probably their best since Coco. Maybe I share the same sentiments as Alonso because I am also a gay guy, but this movie was so sweet and genuine and loving. It made me misty-eyed many different times, sometimes for no other reason than just how beautiful the movie and the characters were. The Miyazaki inspiration in Luca is incredible. I get definite Kiki's Delivery Service/Spirited Away vibes at certain times, with the concept of young children on the cusp of adulthood having to go out into the real world, get a job, and experience the harsh realities of growing up.
Mmm, a simple story? I would agree if that was a problem, or it was bad or bland. But it is fast paced and it moves along beautifully towards something.. and it does it well. You can't deny that they crafted something with love here, and it doesn't disappoint. I also believe it was made with children and their spirit of adventure in mind, and it very well goes there. For grown-ups, there might be layers, which is great! Like mentioned in the news episode of this week regarding Captain America and Winter Soldier : They put something out there, and people can add a piece of them to it to make something even better. Just the fact that it can be layered.. Anyway, the ending was particularly and emotionally toned to perfection for what it is. I'm also a 8.5. Can't see it being anything below an 8 quite frankly.. specially not a 6.5! Maybe watch it when your day isn't going bad.
I did not even check Disney +. There is so MUCH streaming content out there. I just assumed Disney was going to try to wring some of that "I can't wait 2 months so I will pay $29.99 now" cash. I will check it out right after this video. Thanks! Just watched it. I loved it. It is a simple story, but it does not pander to anyone. It creates a world without using a lot of expository dialogue. Stay for the credits as the accompanying images are kind of an epilogue to this story. There is a very funny zinger at the end of the credits, especially if you recognize (or IMDb) the voice actor. There is a funny explanation towards the end of the credits regarding the creation of this movie. It was both hysterical and quite apt.
about 16 years ago, a friend of mine bought an Enrico Casarosa book along with Ronnie Del Carmen (director of inside out, up and storyboarded Finding Nemo) but bought it twice because it flipped on both ends. I only bought one, the dude has that style and pixar needed to change because it wouldn't have fit if it was all ray traced Renderman.
Luca was a beautiful film and I understand what Alonso and Matt are saying about the story, but I agree with Christy about this film being more simplistic. I enjoyed the film but I don't think it's as strong as some of Pixar's recent releases.
I agree completely. The two guys are great, but this is yet another in the many year's of her reviews that make Christy one of my two favorite critics (the other being Richard Roeper), based mainly on years of evidence showing their tastes hew closest to mine. (Though, to be fair, I loved Cruella a lot more than Christy did...but there's always going to be exceptions, of course.)
It's refreshing for Pixar to do a more realistic, low-stakes, vibey kind of film like this. Most other Pixar films shoot for the stars with either high concept or really emotional scenes, but this was a lot more calm. It's like Miyazaki's more calm work like Kiki's Delivery Service or Whisper of the Heart. I do think Christie is right that the film is kinda simplistic. You could have done a lot more with the villain or Luca's parents to make that more interesting. But this movie is resonating with people in it's gentleness and focus on friendship.
I have to say I enjoyed the simplicity and down-to-earthness of the story. Yes, it's fantasy, it has this fairytaleish element, but at it's core, it's just a straightforward story of two friends trying to cope with being different in a world that doesn't accept them and trying to fulfil their dreams.
I totally dug this. It was very funny in many many small moments and of course it's gorgeous like everyone said. I'm not gay but the LGBTQ theme was very obvious to me, and I don't know how you could miss it. (But I've certainly missed stuff before, so I'm not casting stones.) The kids were most definitely not gay, it was the whole theme of coming out and acceptance that was an LGBTQ theme. I had a major lump in my throat for last section of the movie, probably starting at the betrayal, like Alonso said. But mainly I found this REALLY funny and entertaining. Great voice cast, and some of the artistic characterizations were hysterical, like the little girls dad. Definitely see it if you can!
The move was fine. My kids thought it was fine. I and my wife thought it fine. I do not have the life experiences of Alonso and so the narrative hitting him far harder I guess I understand, though I don't think the metaphor works as well in general as it did for him. The parent sea monsters, entire family, they're not concerned about their son as a unique/different person, but as racially the same as them so attributing it to gay didn't click for me during my viewing. As a dad I'm a super easy mark for it getting a bit too dusty in the room during emotional stuff with families involved, but this one only got me a bit at the end. I think it felt a little too easily resolved with the parents. I will give though that the betrayal moment Alonso referenced did raise my eyebrows a bit in unexpectedness. The animation felt heavily borrowing from Cloudy with a Chance of Meatballs for me. Down to a very stoic father who is a fisherman. The love of Italy felt a bit surface level with the comical leaning on pasta and Vespas, but that's fine as well. A whole lot of fine. With the biking crossed into a heartfelt story I'm reminded as well of Nasu: Summer in Andalusia. That film though feels more lovingly detailed to the region it's set in (I say unfairly having never been, though I did spend a month in Italy as a younger person.) In animation quality of course it was great. It was noticeable that when they had rain involved to wet everything down the detail seemed to pop all the more. The movie was fine.
Hi guys. can you please review the new Christian Petzold film Undine? I know you guys reviewed his previous film Transit and had slightly mixed feelings about it. This is one has its own bizarre elements, but maybe it will be more to your liking.
Let's be real this movie was average and if you compare it to movies like Coco, up, soul, it doesn't matter measure up to them. I think this movie needed some better drama that leads up to a emotional ending of some sort
I also cried during the betrayal scene. So true to life in the lives of so many lgbtq people! I also cried in the last scene when they part ways. And when Luca goes back to find Alberto dejected. And when the dad takes Alberto under his care.
I am gay and yes It's obvious that this film is about being Gay. But my word is it soooo... weak. Not only in not being brave enough to be about being gay, but also, the film is so unspectacular in every way. I'm glad Alonso liked it, but this film for me was shockingly hollow of substance.
If the director/co-writer says they aren't gay (and the story is inspired by his childhood), then that's that, just like when Rowling declared that Dumbledore was gay and he instantly was. Whoever is in charge of the imaginary world determines its realities. All art is open to interpretation . . . until it's not. If as a viewer you have decided that a film HAS TO BE about a particular thing no matter what anyone says and it was never meant to be that thing anyway, then yeah, of course you will be disappointed. Any film that wasn't meant to contain certain themes will necessarily be deficient in those themes, but as long as the film has some other meaning, it's not actually lacking substance.
@@WaitingtoHit First off death of the author so... "That's that." Also you know people can lie? Or be forced to lie due to what the overseeing mouse tells them to say, and are forced to make a public statement that this film is not about being gay. The fact that they had to make a statement shows that they of course intended it to be gay, and Disney being homophobic as always forced them to put out the flames.
How come Alonso got the lgbt subtext while Chris Stuckman didn't 🤔 I'll watch the movie later with that in mind. Also, bracing myself for some italian stereotype cringe (being italian myself) 😅
Well, just a reminder that a good movie about character will speak to all people regardless of gender preferences. We all need and go through degrees of struggle to connect with each other even if the obstacles are unique to us individually. But that need is shared by us all.
@@diegom6053 The two characters don't have to be gay for the metaphor to work. The metaphor was the relationship between living in secret in the ocean vs being openly comfortable around everyone outside the ocean. Keep up!
My name is Luca. I live on the ocean floor.
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😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
I wished they sung Suzanne Vega's Luka
Glad to know I wasn't the only one that thought this movie was a metaphor for coming out. I am 100% with Alonso on this one. Fantastic movie. I have a hunch this movie might resonate more with LGBTQ+ audiences-- not saying you have to be part of our community to enjoy the film, but it could be why we liked it more than Christy.
I think it is completely fair for personal life experiences to inform a viewer. There are of course universals, but having lived something will of course put a narrative choice far more on target. Once I became a parent, kids in peril/sad stuff hit me far harder. Or more humorously, when Blair Witch (98) came out, I had never camped and so when something was tapping on the tent giggling I found it odd but my buddy who was a burly outdoorsman was white-knuckling his theater seat. After I'd been camping a few times I was like ohhhhhh.
Christy has become my favorite critic, love her stuff.
Wow, I was about to comment the same thing. I hadn't realized it till now which is on me but I do believe she is my favorite critic as well. I should've known this since her review of Phantom Thread
I loved this movie. The simplicity, everything 💜💜💜✨
I’m with Christy on this one, it didn’t grab me nearly as much as the best Pixar movies. Solid but not great. My six year old son loved it though. I’d give it a 7.
I felt the vibe 🌈
That’s why Pixar isn’t releasing it in theaters. They probably think it’s too much for kids! 🙄
@@JLamstudio Doubt it. It was wasn't a strong movie compared to recent releases.
By Pixar's standards it's really simple. I mean they leave a lot of story points unresolved (Alberto's dad... what happened to him? What about the bad guy, what's his story?). It's probably the most "made for kids" film in Pixar's history.
I adored this movie. I think it's the best Pixar film in quite a long time - definitely better than Soul, Onward, and Toy Story 4 and probably their best since Coco.
Maybe I share the same sentiments as Alonso because I am also a gay guy, but this movie was so sweet and genuine and loving. It made me misty-eyed many different times, sometimes for no other reason than just how beautiful the movie and the characters were. The Miyazaki inspiration in Luca is incredible. I get definite Kiki's Delivery Service/Spirited Away vibes at certain times, with the concept of young children on the cusp of adulthood having to go out into the real world, get a job, and experience the harsh realities of growing up.
Mmm, a simple story? I would agree if that was a problem, or it was bad or bland.
But it is fast paced and it moves along beautifully towards something.. and it does it well. You can't deny that they crafted something with love here, and it doesn't disappoint. I also believe it was made with children and their spirit of adventure in mind, and it very well goes there. For grown-ups, there might be layers, which is great! Like mentioned in the news episode of this week regarding Captain America and Winter Soldier : They put something out there, and people can add a piece of them to it to make something even better. Just the fact that it can be layered..
Anyway, the ending was particularly and emotionally toned to perfection for what it is.
I'm also a 8.5. Can't see it being anything below an 8 quite frankly.. specially not a 6.5! Maybe watch it when your day isn't going bad.
I did not even check Disney +. There is so MUCH streaming content out there. I just assumed Disney was going to try to wring some of that "I can't wait 2 months so I will pay $29.99 now" cash. I will check it out right after this video. Thanks!
Just watched it. I loved it. It is a simple story, but it does not pander to anyone. It creates a world without using a lot of expository dialogue. Stay for the credits as the accompanying images are kind of an epilogue to this story. There is a very funny zinger at the end of the credits, especially if you recognize (or IMDb) the voice actor. There is a funny explanation towards the end of the credits regarding the creation of this movie. It was both hysterical and quite apt.
about 16 years ago, a friend of mine bought an Enrico Casarosa book along with Ronnie Del Carmen (director of inside out, up and storyboarded Finding Nemo) but bought it twice because it flipped on both ends. I only bought one, the dude has that style and pixar needed to change because it wouldn't have fit if it was all ray traced Renderman.
Luca was a beautiful film and I understand what Alonso and Matt are saying about the story, but I agree with Christy about this film being more simplistic. I enjoyed the film but I don't think it's as strong as some of Pixar's recent releases.
I agree completely. The two guys are great, but this is yet another in the many year's of her reviews that make Christy one of my two favorite critics (the other being Richard Roeper), based mainly on years of evidence showing their tastes hew closest to mine. (Though, to be fair, I loved Cruella a lot more than Christy did...but there's always going to be exceptions, of course.)
It's refreshing for Pixar to do a more realistic, low-stakes, vibey kind of film like this. Most other Pixar films shoot for the stars with either high concept or really emotional scenes, but this was a lot more calm. It's like Miyazaki's more calm work like Kiki's Delivery Service or Whisper of the Heart.
I do think Christie is right that the film is kinda simplistic. You could have done a lot more with the villain or Luca's parents to make that more interesting. But this movie is resonating with people in it's gentleness and focus on friendship.
Finally! Yes I loved this movie and it gave me all the feels, fabulous 💗
I have to say I enjoyed the simplicity and down-to-earthness of the story. Yes, it's fantasy, it has this fairytaleish element, but at it's core, it's just a straightforward story of two friends trying to cope with being different in a world that doesn't accept them and trying to fulfil their dreams.
Ferdinand made me cry and now one else did. Also a simple story. I understand alonso
I totally dug this. It was very funny in many many small moments and of course it's gorgeous like everyone said. I'm not gay but the LGBTQ theme was very obvious to me, and I don't know how you could miss it. (But I've certainly missed stuff before, so I'm not casting stones.) The kids were most definitely not gay, it was the whole theme of coming out and acceptance that was an LGBTQ theme. I had a major lump in my throat for last section of the movie, probably starting at the betrayal, like Alonso said. But mainly I found this REALLY funny and entertaining. Great voice cast, and some of the artistic characterizations were hysterical, like the little girls dad. Definitely see it if you can!
it's set in the same universe as Amarcord
Call me by your Name for Pixar😉😉
Or as A.O. Scott called it "Calamari by Your Name"
The move was fine. My kids thought it was fine. I and my wife thought it fine. I do not have the life experiences of Alonso and so the narrative hitting him far harder I guess I understand, though I don't think the metaphor works as well in general as it did for him. The parent sea monsters, entire family, they're not concerned about their son as a unique/different person, but as racially the same as them so attributing it to gay didn't click for me during my viewing. As a dad I'm a super easy mark for it getting a bit too dusty in the room during emotional stuff with families involved, but this one only got me a bit at the end. I think it felt a little too easily resolved with the parents. I will give though that the betrayal moment Alonso referenced did raise my eyebrows a bit in unexpectedness.
The animation felt heavily borrowing from Cloudy with a Chance of Meatballs for me. Down to a very stoic father who is a fisherman. The love of Italy felt a bit surface level with the comical leaning on pasta and Vespas, but that's fine as well. A whole lot of fine. With the biking crossed into a heartfelt story I'm reminded as well of Nasu: Summer in Andalusia. That film though feels more lovingly detailed to the region it's set in (I say unfairly having never been, though I did spend a month in Italy as a younger person.) In animation quality of course it was great. It was noticeable that when they had rain involved to wet everything down the detail seemed to pop all the more.
The movie was fine.
I'm still made at Disney for not releasing this movie in theaters.
Hi guys. can you please review the new Christian Petzold film Undine? I know you guys reviewed his previous film Transit and had slightly mixed feelings about it. This is one has its own bizarre elements, but maybe it will be more to your liking.
Luca Doncic?
Nowadays your plot summary description takes 4 minutes.. could have been short
Could have been longer . . .
"I hate pre-teens" Lol WTF Christy hope Nic doesn't watch the video lol
That's exactly what I thought lmao her kid will become a teenager soon.
@@diegom6053 Haha yes, she has a podcast with her son Nic actually, it's on Spotify.
Let's be real this movie was average and if you compare it to movies like Coco, up, soul, it doesn't matter measure up to them. I think this movie needed some better drama that leads up to a emotional ending of some sort
ya all better then luca.
luca is good but not great onward and toy story 4 are far better.
Five solid 🌈🌈🌈🌈🌈
I also cried during the betrayal scene. So true to life in the lives of so many lgbtq people! I also cried in the last scene when they part ways. And when Luca goes back to find Alberto dejected. And when the dad takes Alberto under his care.
I don't think the movie was really about LGBTQ issues at all to, be honest - it was much more about racial tolerance.
Could be that too! Thanks for your thoughts.
I don't see any lgbtqrstu there.....
I am gay and yes It's obvious that this film is about being Gay. But my word is it soooo... weak. Not only in not being brave enough to be about being gay, but also, the film is so unspectacular in every way. I'm glad Alonso liked it, but this film for me was shockingly hollow of substance.
If the director/co-writer says they aren't gay (and the story is inspired by his childhood), then that's that, just like when Rowling declared that Dumbledore was gay and he instantly was. Whoever is in charge of the imaginary world determines its realities. All art is open to interpretation . . . until it's not. If as a viewer you have decided that a film HAS TO BE about a particular thing no matter what anyone says and it was never meant to be that thing anyway, then yeah, of course you will be disappointed. Any film that wasn't meant to contain certain themes will necessarily be deficient in those themes, but as long as the film has some other meaning, it's not actually lacking substance.
@@WaitingtoHit First off death of the author so... "That's that." Also you know people can lie? Or be forced to lie due to what the overseeing mouse tells them to say, and are forced to make a public statement that this film is not about being gay. The fact that they had to make a statement shows that they of course intended it to be gay, and Disney being homophobic as always forced them to put out the flames.
I fell asleep watching this. Something about the accents is very odd.
How come Alonso got the lgbt subtext while Chris Stuckman didn't 🤔 I'll watch the movie later with that in mind. Also, bracing myself for some italian stereotype cringe (being italian myself) 😅
There isnt any subtext ....alonzo clearly has made it up in his mind
Well, just a reminder that a good movie about character will speak to all people regardless of gender preferences. We all need and go through degrees of struggle to connect with each other even if the obstacles are unique to us individually. But that need is shared by us all.
@@digontozahid Totally agree. He totally projected all that onto the movie and I don't think it was there at all.
Haven’t seen the film yet but i noticed the gay theme from watching the trailer. It was pretty obvious and tbh unnecessary for a kids film.
There was no gay metaphor at all, if you see it then you have issues.
Art, bro
The theme was flexible enough for multiple interpretations.
@@wolflarson71 No it wasn't, it was just a friendship.
@@diegom6053 The two characters don't have to be gay for the metaphor to work. The metaphor was the relationship between living in secret in the ocean vs being openly comfortable around everyone outside the ocean. Keep up!
@@wolflarson71 True but there has to be something. This was the friendship of two 12 yo. Nothing sexual about that.