If you land fatal blow during the time freeze in a combo it scales significantly better than landing it after the time freeze has ended. I dont really know why this is the case exactly, but it is. This means that the: 3(sandburst), f2 - fatal blow route off of time freeze scales worse than doing 4,4, fatal blow because the former will hit after time freeze expires and the latter will hit before freeze ends. I suspect this is because some sort of scaling multiplier is applied at the end of the freeze.
You can actually tick throw off 2-1 as well. The bots are weird and wont get hit by it if they are set to auto or all-block because its frame perfect, but if you tell them to stance-hold block you can see it works. To clarify, tick throws do work based on blockstun. Throws will always whiff on someone in blockstun, so because command grab is 17 frames it will tick off anything with a cancel-advantage of 16 or less on block. This is why reiko can't tick throw off of anything, because his command grab is 10 frames and he has no moves with a cancel advantage of 9 or less on block. Sweet guide!
@@Domoralize i meant you can tick throw with 2-1 from neutral without even having motaro! I did not know about motaro triple shot tick throw at all, super cool tech!
@@Domoralize wait, even with bot set to stance hold??? Ik it whiffs on bots set to auto or all block but being a pc exclusive tick throw is mind boggling lol, thats crazy Do you have a discord btw? Im legit like always labbing and Id love to share more of my findings through a method more conventional than youtube comments. I wonder whether or not they will remove the tick throw from pc when crossplay gets added or add it to console. I feel like it must have been intentional because the last hit of 2-1-2 is -15 on flawless block
I just picked him up, my main is shao he’s the only character I’ve played and I have 480 hours in Mk1.. so you can imagine what it’s like trying to learn someone like Geras after that Thank you so much for what you upload nobody covers him like this
@@MrJeeJonah there’s just a sweet spot to it and you have to hold the kameo button, i actually have more trouble doing motaros cancels because im so used to lao
I think it’s worth considering what you lose by changing from Lao to Motaro. Lao gives the same kidnap cancels and meterless combo routes, as well as hourglass charge combos. What you lose by switching to from Lao to Motaro is: 1. Dropping low hat to charge an hourglass behind it in neutral. 2. “Get off me” reversal spin. 3. Hard-to-blockable setups. I’m just not sure it’s worth losing 1 (and 3). Against rushdown, dropping low hat to charge an hourglass is so valuable especially when rushdown is king in this game. With Motaro, if you’re being rushed down, there isnt much you can do to safely charge in neutral.
after mastering the lao teleports i was hesitant to switch but motaros teleport is much more dangerous then laos and i happen to switch back to lao depending on the matchup but geras/motaro is definitely my second go to team
Im having lots of fun with this team, only thing i need to practice more is the 1 bar breaker timing. The 900 health is a little intimidating since im not that great at the armor breaker
What makes Motaro so interisting is the low shot what +13 ob and Motaros teleport is more instant than Lao Teleport. Bothe Kameo are absolutely great for Geras and they are the only Kameos who gives him the Kidnapping Loops
@Domoralize okay thank you so much, I've been practicing most of the day and I'd say I got a 50% hit rate, tryna be like you and your goated geras gameplay
All you have to do is have motaro grab you out of the first few frames of the start up of BF1 non mb. Every string has different cancel advantages. Therefore the timing is very slightly different for every string.
@Hardxn13 it's definitely not an easy thing you can just do instantly. Every string has different cancel advantages, meaning every string into time freeze motaro cancel is ever so slightly different.
If you land fatal blow during the time freeze in a combo it scales significantly better than landing it after the time freeze has ended. I dont really know why this is the case exactly, but it is.
This means that the: 3(sandburst), f2 - fatal blow route off of time freeze scales worse than doing 4,4, fatal blow because the former will hit after time freeze expires and the latter will hit before freeze ends.
I suspect this is because some sort of scaling multiplier is applied at the end of the freeze.
Geras is an amazing character. Thank you for the details.
You can actually tick throw off 2-1 as well. The bots are weird and wont get hit by it if they are set to auto or all-block because its frame perfect, but if you tell them to stance-hold block you can see it works.
To clarify, tick throws do work based on blockstun. Throws will always whiff on someone in blockstun, so because command grab is 17 frames it will tick off anything with a cancel-advantage of 16 or less on block. This is why reiko can't tick throw off of anything, because his command grab is 10 frames and he has no moves with a cancel advantage of 9 or less on block.
Sweet guide!
All the ones I've found is 21, F24, B12 and S4 😅. But thanks for the explanation king, I knew I wasn't crazy.
@@Domoralize i meant you can tick throw with 2-1 from neutral without even having motaro! I did not know about motaro triple shot tick throw at all, super cool tech!
@@frogaroach 21 is also actually only a tick throw on PC
@@Domoralize wait, even with bot set to stance hold??? Ik it whiffs on bots set to auto or all block but being a pc exclusive tick throw is mind boggling lol, thats crazy
Do you have a discord btw? Im legit like always labbing and Id love to share more of my findings through a method more conventional than youtube comments.
I wonder whether or not they will remove the tick throw from pc when crossplay gets added or add it to console. I feel like it must have been intentional because the last hit of 2-1-2 is -15 on flawless block
With Motaro do you have to do the teleport a little later after the time stop?
Subbed based on this guide, thank you, sir. For providing this to the community.
Thx for that great Guide Domoralize and Merry Christmas for you and your Family
As a geras mataro main, this was really helpful 🙏
Yessir thanks been waiting on this! Great video as usual
Appreciate it a ton 🙏
I just picked him up, my main is shao he’s the only character I’ve played and I have 480 hours in Mk1.. so you can imagine what it’s like trying to learn someone like Geras after that
Thank you so much for what you upload nobody covers him like this
Thank you for watching 🤝
I've never been able to hot the time freeze combo with kung lao, bit always with motaro..so gooood
Kinda picking up motaro just for this reason. Been trying 2 days to hit it with kung lao but I have a skill issue i guess
@mohamedgamalelnagar9972 it's so easy with motaro lol changed everything
@@MrJeeJonah there’s just a sweet spot to it and you have to hold the kameo button, i actually have more trouble doing motaros cancels because im so used to lao
Came back to this vid after grr almost won lcq with this team bro had to work so hard
It's literally comical how hard Geras is at a high level lmao
Awesome guides!
This the new testament
Facts
I think it’s worth considering what you lose by changing from Lao to Motaro.
Lao gives the same kidnap cancels and meterless combo routes, as well as hourglass charge combos.
What you lose by switching to from Lao to Motaro is:
1. Dropping low hat to charge an hourglass behind it in neutral.
2. “Get off me” reversal spin.
3. Hard-to-blockable setups.
I’m just not sure it’s worth losing 1 (and 3). Against rushdown, dropping low hat to charge an hourglass is so valuable especially when rushdown is king in this game. With Motaro, if you’re being rushed down, there isnt much you can do to safely charge in neutral.
after mastering the lao teleports i was hesitant to switch but motaros teleport is much more dangerous then laos and i happen to switch back to lao depending on the matchup but geras/motaro is definitely my second go to team
You do very good advanced tutorials 💯 motaro looks fun but I got to comfortable with kung lao
That's a good setup. Good timing.
Im having lots of fun with this team, only thing i need to practice more is the 1 bar breaker timing. The 900 health is a little intimidating since im not that great at the armor breaker
Why are you so good at this?
Awesome video!
I don't understand why I don't see anyone online using this team, I'm the only person in my area using it
Because the kung Lao cameo is still best pick. Once u master the cameo resets your doing 40 - 50 damage easy
@@realfacts1021 I'd say motaro has more utility
I started using him after the patch immediately.
@@realfacts1021 This combo seems stronger as Geras looses on zoning with Lao.
What makes Motaro so interisting is the low shot what +13 ob and Motaros teleport is more instant than Lao Teleport.
Bothe Kameo are absolutely great for Geras and they are the only Kameos who gives him the Kidnapping Loops
2,1 also tick throws normally for geras, even tho the practice dummy can be buggy with it
21 only tick throws on stance hold AI in practice mode
I cant seem to get the reset combo at the beginning. Everytine i try to tick throw it whiffs. Someone help.
You need to be frame perfect on the f24 before the command grab. Immediately on recovery from motaro call
How do u do the grab and smash unto the hour glass move on ps5
@@sethhagger8982 122 1+3
Are there any tips on how to get the BF1 Into Motaro warp consistently? Haven't hit it once yet
@magmichellee just practice the timings for each string, try to focus on having the ambush hit you as the BF1 is about to connect
@Domoralize okay thank you so much, I've been practicing most of the day and I'd say I got a 50% hit rate, tryna be like you and your goated geras gameplay
Awesome!
I dont know why you don't enable the moves set that shows what buttons are you pressing?
in the first combo how does the command grab hit after forward 24 can’t ever get this in practice tool
To make F24 tick throw is has to be timed perfect off of the motaro shot hitting them on block.
what is the timing ? as it’s hitting them, slightly before or after ?
@@mlosiii as it's hitting.
appreciate the reply and the content, learned most of my geras from u bout to reach elder god 1st time w geras/motaro
@ahmedmosli9642 love to see it, thanks for the love king 🫡
Not sure if you still can but I seen a combo where he does a double teleport with motaro how do you do this?
All you have to do is have motaro grab you out of the first few frames of the start up of BF1 non mb. Every string has different cancel advantages. Therefore the timing is very slightly different for every string.
Ahh thanks I just figured it @@Domoralize
The sauce
Anyone else struggling to cancel bf1 into motaro cancel ? I’m pressing r1 right after the bf1 but I’m still getting the elbow drop
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Sheesh
Ty wm, dude. None Except, pick Geras
very nice, only thing i dont like about geras is his armor move which gets crushed by all other armor moves and his fatal blow scaling is dog shit-
I lost
How do you time the time stop into the Motaro teleport? I’m currently learning Geras and I’m struggling timing it
@Hardxn13 have to have him grab you out of the start up frames of your time freeze
@@Domoralize thanks. Rn sometimes I get it and sometimes I mess it up. I think I need to lab more. I also tried Geras with Ferra recently
@Hardxn13 it's definitely not an easy thing you can just do instantly. Every string has different cancel advantages, meaning every string into time freeze motaro cancel is ever so slightly different.
@@Domoralizeso far I’m liking Ferra mainly because of the extra health. Should I go Ferra or Motaro?
@@Hardxn13 whatever you think is gonna secure the Ws