AIR RIVET GUN REVIEW - GREAT TOOL -

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  • Today is a demonstration of my new air operated rivet gun. A must have tool for the shop.
    Thanks for watching ! If you'd like to see what's happening in upcoming videos check out my instagram page.
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  • @bunyanforgings7849
    @bunyanforgings7849 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Just finished rebuilding my rusty fenders with a hand riveter. About 350 rivets later (quite a feat after years of trades work and repetitive stress injuries) and watching an Adam Savage video when he mentions a ," pneumatic pop rivet gun ". Never even thought of it although l've seen them when perusing PA's catalogue. Keep finding more and more uses for the rivets. So next project (or sale) l will be picking one up. Cheers.

  • @Patriot_Drone_Services
    @Patriot_Drone_Services 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    We fabricate Desert Race Trucks and cars. Hydraulic rivet guns are awwwwesome. Hundreds of rivets go into fabricating race cars, the ole manual lever pop riveter is useful in tight spots, but thats as far as they go for use (anymore). The instructions really suck, but you must “prime” the gun. To prime the gun, hold the gun upside down and remove the bottom cap of the piston cup, using the “do-hickey” tool. Once the bottom cap of the piston cup is removed, pull the piston and shaft out with a pair of pliers. Clean out the cup with a clean rag. Hold the gun upside down and prime the gun with hydraulic oil, yes, hydraulic oil, not 3 in one oil or other oils. Using good hydraulic oil is super important, even on cheap HF “ying yang” tools. This is an air assisted hydraulic tool. Fill the piston shaft housing up until the oil reaches where the top of the piston shaft nut, in the bottom of the cup itself (this of course is looking into the tool while it’s upside down). Do not fill to the small rectangular cutout in the piston cup that is over full and will leak. Place the piston and shaft back into the piston cup, lubricate the piston seal with hydraulic fluid and screw the cap back into place and tighten. Once the cap is firmly hand tight, use the “do-hickey” tool and snug the cap with 1/4 turn to seal the cap’s o-ring. Some times you may have to bleed the air out by cycling the tool a few times and adding oil until the air bubbles are gone and you don’t have to add anymore oil. You will periodically need to top off the fluid, depending on how much you use the tool.

  • @Longtrailside
    @Longtrailside 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Known about these for years, just never really needed one. My hand jobber has done me fine for many years. Though if i ever did need one i would definatly be getting ome of these. Thanks for the post.

    • @SteveRobReviews
      @SteveRobReviews  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      I have the manual one as well but for large rivets it's quite a workout :) Cheers

  • @reedsilvesan2197
    @reedsilvesan2197 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The oil is considered as mandatory by the manufacturer.
    Additionally, the correct amount of oil is very small, just enough to fill the tube you'll see at the bottom of the cylinder, if you read the package, it tells you that this is a "air over hydraulic" setup.
    And the brass hex and the wrench which are supplied by the manufacturer work very well, use them.

  • @BruceLyeg
    @BruceLyeg 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ha! I was planning on stopping by PA today to get one of those but didn't get the chance. We used to have a similar one from PA about 25 years ago when I worked at a Fiberglass shop. We used it hundreds of times a day and I don't recall oiling it or doing any sorts of maintenance on it at all lol. I like that this one has a cone thingy on the back to catch the rivet... rods? stems? I dunno... they used to shoot out the back of our old one with a surprising velocity.
    If you're anything like me, you'll tag the little jaws and put them in a safe place... never to be seen again.

    • @SteveRobReviews
      @SteveRobReviews  5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Now you can spend $500 on one of these for a real good one but this one is 1/4 the price so don't try hundreds of rivets a day with it :)

  • @Badgertronix
    @Badgertronix 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Looks like a handy tool. Can't say I've needed to do too much riveting but I'm sure I'll find a project where I will. Cheers buddy

    • @SteveRobReviews
      @SteveRobReviews  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      I'm surprised myself how often I do use rivets. Most times it's a 1/4 in bolt but so many spots I just fire in a rivet and Bob's your uncle .

    • @mostlymoparih5682
      @mostlymoparih5682 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@SteveRobReviews Uncle Bob that SOB
      I mean Sweet Ole Bob.

  • @stuzman52
    @stuzman52 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Never used an air version but I can see that if you had a lot of rivets to do, it would come in handy. 😀👍

    • @SteveRobReviews
      @SteveRobReviews  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Terry its mostly used for 3/16 - 1/4 steel rivets most times. They are pretty hard on the hands with a manual unit.

  • @shovelhead8
    @shovelhead8 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I think in the spring I should check if I have a rivet gun. I can't remember. Thank you for the video, Steve

    • @SteveRobReviews
      @SteveRobReviews  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      LOL Sean is it under all that snow in your backyard .....

  • @angus4202
    @angus4202 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    i bought a 3 ft whip hose to put on mine to help slow the wear on the quick coupler

  • @GrampiesWorkshop
    @GrampiesWorkshop 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    How's she goin'? That's a nice tool to have. Way better than using the older 'pliers' style. Works some slick!!! Thanks for posting!!!

    • @SteveRobReviews
      @SteveRobReviews  5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Mike I do prefer the rivet to a bolt or screw most times 1/4 in. and under. Hope the saps running today :)

  • @PAPATexas
    @PAPATexas 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Covering the hole is a good idea/tip. I don't like it when air leaks either. It did a nice job. Enjoy your new toy Steve, Steve Rob!

  • @DENicholsAutoBravado
    @DENicholsAutoBravado 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    When I worked at Pepboys for a while, the air fittings seemed okay, but when I worked at my current shop and we ordered Pep Boys air fittings...yikes. They all leak.

  • @photocontrol
    @photocontrol 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Looks like a decent rivet gun, nice tool addition for the shop.

    • @SteveRobReviews
      @SteveRobReviews  5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It's not a professional unit but neither am I so were a good match :)

  • @TheCowgirlNiamh
    @TheCowgirlNiamh 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks buddy! I don't have one, didn't know they existed but now I "need" one .... 👍😂😂😂

    • @SteveRobReviews
      @SteveRobReviews  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      This you would enjoy so much. We have to get you an air compressor first.😂

    • @DENicholsAutoBravado
      @DENicholsAutoBravado 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      I know I hate manual rivetters, but it was a cheap wing wang one so...I'm sure there are better, but that looked a whole lot easier. I've only done few rivets ever. When a boss says, "What, you don't have a rivet tool." I say what problem do you actually have that I need to solve. Not buying one, lol. But I think it's a solution to putting an extension on my under engine hood to prevent hydro-lock on my next engine. I was literally imagining how I'd build that in the middle of the night last night. Low and behold, Steve makes a rivet video. :)

  • @gatorsworld
    @gatorsworld 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Yes, those are handy....my brother in tin work has one that I borrowed once and I used it enough to now that I didn`t need to buy one....It`s more of a commercial thing when you have 100`s of pop-rivets to do....I`m not moving too much here so for the rivets I have to do....the hand job is OK....CHEERS

    • @SteveRobReviews
      @SteveRobReviews  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes a hand gun for rivets is just fine for most. Gator most people always go for a screw or bolt but I find myself using a rivet more and more. I just bought 500 1/4 in. rivets and that's the most common size of fastener I use.

    • @mostlymoparih5682
      @mostlymoparih5682 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Watch what ya say Gator. The what is OK?

    • @SteveRobReviews
      @SteveRobReviews  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      😂😂

    • @gatorsworld
      @gatorsworld 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@mostlymoparih5682 Still to early in the morning Marty....My wife does not want me to come out and play yet....have to wait a bit...I have some snow to move

    • @gatorsworld
      @gatorsworld 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@mostlymoparih5682 The HAND JOB....don`t forget Marty....a hand job is better than no job....that`s what I say

  • @nombr
    @nombr 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Good video! I was wondering where I needed to add oil! Haha

  • @senioraces
    @senioraces 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    hey so what's the product number? I'd like to check it out on the PA website. Thanks for posting!

    • @SteveRobReviews
      @SteveRobReviews  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Their products change so often so its best to just look at the 1/4 " rivet capacity if thats what your looking for.

  • @karmalord
    @karmalord ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Gonna need a swivel air fitting for that squirly thang!

  • @VAcreeper
    @VAcreeper 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Dont lie
    You took yours apart and couldnt figure out how to put it back together!! Lol

  • @craigmonteforte1478
    @craigmonteforte1478 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I’m thinking the metal rod is supposed to be used as a Bucking tool for certain Rivets that are used in Airplane Constructin and on some of the old Airstream Travel trailers one man would put the Rivet in and another would apply pressure on the other side of whatever was getting riveted i by doing that process it kind of gave a more finished appearance to the inside and outside of the fastener I personally have not installed those but I did own a Airstream Trailer and I read about them on some airstream Forums for your Extra Jaws one trick I’ do is put those parts in a Ziploc baggie and with packing tape attach the whole thing to the tool I may even write with a Sharpie what’s in the bag

  • @normansmith7806
    @normansmith7806 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have one but I think it is a Astro P. Really like it !

    • @SteveRobReviews
      @SteveRobReviews  5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I seem to use rivets as my days of screws falling out and bolts loosening up or rusting off are solved with a rivet. Cheers Norm

  • @briankennedy-xv3zl
    @briankennedy-xv3zl 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    why didn't you show us how to replace the rivet grippers?

    • @SteveRobReviews
      @SteveRobReviews  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Because I didn't think it was needed as most know how or if they just bought one can look at the instructions provided.

  • @leetomlee7265
    @leetomlee7265 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Can this machine tighten up two sheets of metal like the corner of a rain gutter? I have seen the two sheets of metal do not attached to each other tightly after the rivet has been applied.

    • @SteveRobReviews
      @SteveRobReviews  ปีที่แล้ว

      Hi Lee
      Rivets are used for gutters quite commonly, but you have to match the rivet to the thickness of the total metal thickness. Not all rivets are equal as the pull strength differs. A proper rivet holds the two metals real tight . This is air operated and sets a rivet the same as a manual rivet tool.

    • @leetomlee7265
      @leetomlee7265 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@SteveRobReviews Thanks for your advice. if I have a .032 aluminum, what would you suggest?

    • @SteveRobReviews
      @SteveRobReviews  ปีที่แล้ว

      @@leetomlee7265 Best to pick the one that suits your needs . www.stanleyengineeredfastening.com/en/brands/POP/POP%20Rivet%20Selection%20Factors

    • @leetomlee7265
      @leetomlee7265 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@SteveRobReviews Thanks so much for your information.

  • @CarsExposed
    @CarsExposed 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    It will save you time and hands bud, after a dozen of rivets with the manual gun your hands definitely feel it ... 😊👍

    • @SteveRobReviews
      @SteveRobReviews  5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes some 1/4 rivets are a workout :) Cheers Igor

  • @rodhawkins5037
    @rodhawkins5037 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm right their with ya on the leaky air hose connectors , they drive me nuts.

    • @SteveRobReviews
      @SteveRobReviews  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Rod It's something you will spend the whole fixing or you could never concentrate on getting anything done. LOL

  • @CarolinaChrisOutdoors
    @CarolinaChrisOutdoors 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Looks like it worked pretty good after "fixing" it.

  • @DENicholsAutoBravado
    @DENicholsAutoBravado 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    If it works well, I wonder if Harbor Freight has the same. Princess Auto sounds very similarly, but HF isn't quick to put anything 50% off, that's for sure. They're even scared of 25% now, lol.

    • @SteveRobReviews
      @SteveRobReviews  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Many times ive seen 70% off some stuff . If I was using your money with a 30% exchange I'd be buying stuff for free. 😂😂

    • @DENicholsAutoBravado
      @DENicholsAutoBravado 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes, 30 plus 70 is 100, LOL!@@SteveRobReviews

  • @joeo1352
    @joeo1352 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Looks like it works good. Now take the time to fix the old one 👍

  • @wallaceviviansadventures2095
    @wallaceviviansadventures2095 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    cool i never used one but i was always going to pick one up.take care

    • @SteveRobReviews
      @SteveRobReviews  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      I just look in my PA flyer today and their on sale next week for $40 - 50 % off. Cheers

  • @PaiviProject
    @PaiviProject 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Okay I feel uber super smart this morning ! Nice new pretty blue thingy you got there. I think the rubber plug tip is great & got to tell hubby that. Totally wing-wang heh hee. I watched this whole video and I didn't get to see the part where the...?? nail ?? goes in 'cause you put your head in the way. So what does it do ? Puts a dot on the metal ? heh hee cuts the nails off ?? omg omg I have no idea whatta What is dat :D :D Thanks Steve :) ;)

    • @SteveRobReviews
      @SteveRobReviews  5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      LOL puts in rivets . Ask hubby he uses them all the time to hold down cylinder heads on 12 cylinder diesel tug boat engines. I can't see you using one but now you can help Ron install cylinder heads. 👍😂

    • @PaiviProject
      @PaiviProject 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@SteveRobReviews Heh hee I have heard that word before but never seen one in action. Yeah I'm not really interested of helping him on that kinda stuff :) Might be mystery for me forever since even what you just said do not lighten up my knowledge one bit but I'm okay with that :D :D ....my emojis not working ooooh

  • @michaelmactavish1728
    @michaelmactavish1728 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    love princess auto thats where i buy tools but only one thing i wouldnt buy any more is there power sweeper because it only goes 1.8 mile an hour wich is slow and takes for ever going place to place if the get one bigger and wider and 6 speed id buy it again buy but love buying other stuff plus great service in there

    • @SteveRobReviews
      @SteveRobReviews  5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It sure is a handy store for handy items. Cheers Michael👍

    • @michaelmactavish1728
      @michaelmactavish1728 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@SteveRobReviews yeah there great guys at princess auto to help ya out finding what you want or need

  • @SouthernFoodJunkie
    @SouthernFoodJunkie 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I would really like to have one of those. I don't river much bunch that would be nice to have. That's cheap enough though.

    • @SteveRobReviews
      @SteveRobReviews  5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      In america about $5 I bet :) great addition to the toolbox bud.

  • @larryz24
    @larryz24 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Riveting Steve, just riveting! I have never used one of those.....

    • @SteveRobReviews
      @SteveRobReviews  5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Well there ya go you have something to look forward to seeing me use it more.Cheers

  • @briankennedy-xv3zl
    @briankennedy-xv3zl 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Would have been much more informative if you would have shown how to replace rivet grippers.

    • @SteveRobReviews
      @SteveRobReviews  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I could have shown so many more things , like how to attach the air line or how to hold the rivet gun properly, but overall, I only show what I feel is relevant. Cheers 👍

  • @airratchetjockey7605
    @airratchetjockey7605 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Always wanted an air riveter never got around to buying one

    • @SteveRobReviews
      @SteveRobReviews  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      For the price on sale and I have plans for a project using 100 1/4 in. steel rivets it will be a hand saver :)

  • @JoaoAmadoTV
    @JoaoAmadoTV 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you for the great video. I actually bought the same gun and it work fine with small rivets like the one you demonstrated, but I'm struggling with the bigger rivets like 3/16" (4.77 mm), and i did change the tips that come with it. Does your work fine with the 3/16" rivets ?

    • @SteveRobReviews
      @SteveRobReviews  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes but I have to change the nose tips that grip the shaft of the rivets . Mine came with two sets , small and large. Works great .

    • @JoaoAmadoTV
      @JoaoAmadoTV 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@SteveRobReviews , yes I've changed the nose tips also, but the 3/16" gets stuck inside. I'll take another look tomorrow after watching your video.
      Thank you for your time.

    • @reedsilvesan2197
      @reedsilvesan2197 ปีที่แล้ว

      Did you put oil in it? It's required for any "air over hydraulic" unit.
      Open the air can, and fill the tube at the bottom only.

    • @Robert-zx2df
      @Robert-zx2df 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      What type ​@@reedsilvesan2197

  • @builtrodewreckedit
    @builtrodewreckedit 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    id never be able to remember where i put those jaws.... i got too may places i won't forget where to put stuff. Id have to duct tape the pieces to the side of the gun. Then id put the gun somewhere and forget where the whole works are.

    • @SteveRobReviews
      @SteveRobReviews  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Oh man you have some pile of tools to get this thing lost in. LOL

  • @irieldabasol3937
    @irieldabasol3937 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    how many psi for air pressure

    • @SteveRobReviews
      @SteveRobReviews  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      90 psi does well all the way up to 1/4 " rivets. 👍

    • @irieldabasol3937
      @irieldabasol3937 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@SteveRobReviews thank u!!!

  • @ozzstars_cars
    @ozzstars_cars 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I hardly rivet. I gave it up years ago for lent.

    • @SteveRobReviews
      @SteveRobReviews  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hum Lent eh :) Just mention in a vid you would like a air rivet gun and I bet you get one sent to you. LOL

  • @protonhead1
    @protonhead1 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    How many CFM does your compressor produce ?
    I always thought about getting one of those riviters.

    • @SteveRobReviews
      @SteveRobReviews  5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      About 5cfm on a 20 gallon tank . It does not turn on for at least after I have installed 10 rivets. It does not use a lot of air. Cheers 👍

    • @protonhead1
      @protonhead1 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thats good to know, thanks Steve. Stay warm.

    • @Patriot_Drone_Services
      @Patriot_Drone_Services 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      protonhead1 - 3-5 CFM @ 90 PSI. I use Milton hi-flow fittings on all my pneumatic tools. They ain’t cheap, but they make a world of difference in performance of high speed tools and other such things, like HVLP spray guns. Regulating the operating air pressure is more consistent too.

  • @PinetreeLine
    @PinetreeLine 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    A riveting expose my friend! 😂

    • @SteveRobReviews
      @SteveRobReviews  5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It was gripping wasn't it 😂😂

    • @PinetreeLine
      @PinetreeLine 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      STEVE ROB REVIEWS It was! 🤣

    • @DENicholsAutoBravado
      @DENicholsAutoBravado 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Expose? Oh my! I don't think it was gripping though, I think it was riveting. LOL :)

  • @juiced71
    @juiced71 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Cool man ! I never used one ..

    • @SteveRobReviews
      @SteveRobReviews  5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hi buddy. Well now you have to show this vid to your lovely and wait for your birthday 🎂😂😂

    • @juiced71
      @juiced71 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      STEVE ROB REVIEWS you got that right Steve!

  • @Frogcreek1938
    @Frogcreek1938 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Read the instructions Lol!

  • @buzzsah
    @buzzsah 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I still use the manual style

    • @SteveRobReviews
      @SteveRobReviews  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      I always did too untill I started to use 1/4 inch steel rivets. They pretty tough. Cheers bud.

  • @txsviking
    @txsviking 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I used to have one but it grew legs and walked out. :/

    • @SteveRobReviews
      @SteveRobReviews  5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      HAHA yes I've had that happen too😂😂

  • @Bigdaddy1992.
    @Bigdaddy1992. 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    They are nice

    • @SteveRobReviews
      @SteveRobReviews  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes sir and pullin a 1/4 steel rivet is real hard on the hands . Cheers bud.

  • @mostlymoparih5682
    @mostlymoparih5682 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice.

  • @patcb829
    @patcb829 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    My complete guess is that if you were oiling the air line before use, and I bet you do, it was getting to that big part but who knows.

    • @SteveRobReviews
      @SteveRobReviews  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      I dont have an inline oiler so its at the tool for now. Cheers Pat.

  • @woodstream6137
    @woodstream6137 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Buddy takes his spare parts and keeps them in a ziplock with the manual so he knows what they are.

  • @67697072
    @67697072 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    So did ya have to put oil in and if so how much?? I bought one years ago and could not get it to work.Maybe it needs oil !!

    • @SteveRobReviews
      @SteveRobReviews  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      I always put 2 drops of air tool oil in it every time I use it.

    • @DENicholsAutoBravado
      @DENicholsAutoBravado 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      One of mine feels ridiculous to do that for. My air hammer aerolizes it all into my breathing air in the first blow.@@SteveRobReviews

  • @norcoauctions
    @norcoauctions 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    You HAVE to be Canadian

    • @SteveRobReviews
      @SteveRobReviews  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yes Canadian , American and British .

    • @MisoJuice
      @MisoJuice 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Will a 6gal pancake compressor work for this?

    • @SteveRobReviews
      @SteveRobReviews  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@MisoJuice Absolutely, no problem at all.

  • @diymisfit_Mechanic_UDX404
    @diymisfit_Mechanic_UDX404 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    5:52 c'mon Steve, hit the hole

  • @wyattoneable
    @wyattoneable 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Now you just getting lazy. (ha ha) But I don't blame you. If there is a tool out there that can make the task at hand more easy to complete, I'll have one please.

    • @SteveRobReviews
      @SteveRobReviews  5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Wyatt in america their $5 😂😂

  • @patrickholmes7521
    @patrickholmes7521 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    If all else fails READ THE DIRECTIONS COWBOY !!!!!

  • @WallysPlace66
    @WallysPlace66 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Last thing I want is to be driven right squirrelly I tell ya!

    • @SteveRobReviews
      @SteveRobReviews  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hum and i'm thinking I just might try it .LOL