The energy manhattan project that will change everything | Jeff Chamberlain | TEDxNaperville
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- This talk was given at a local TEDx event, produced independently of the TED Conferences. We’re all handcuffed by a terrible weakness in our energy system. At work, in our homes, and across all of society, this shackle constrains and consumes our lives, tightening more each year. A project is underway to combat this terrible burden - a project so profound and magnificent that, when brought to fruition, will change every aspect of our lives forever.
Jeff Chamberlain leads Argonne National Laboratory’s Energy Storage Initiative, which drives innovations in advanced batteries for vehicle and grid applications. Prior to his position in JCESR, he served as the head of Argonne’s Electrochemical Energy Storage Department for three years, during a period of growth in both government and market interest in developing new energy storage technologies. During that time, he also contributed to the management of Argonne’s Li-air battery development initiative.
Jeff has two decades of experience managing the research and development of commercial battery technologies. His combination of scientific expertise and entrepreneurial know-how makes him an ideal choice for managing the translation of scientific discovery to technology development and serving as the liaison between Argonne and entities that are interested in commercializing laboratory technologies.
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Gosh, those guys whispering are so annoying..
Nikola Petkanski ... the sound guys for this video should NOT had a feed in the audience.... 👎👎👎
Did you say something?
I thought I was going crazy
The whispering is VERY distracting. In the future, TEDx needs to address this.
Your MUMBLING is a Distraction.. did you say something?
ZakarooNetwork hah yeah I couldn't believe that was left in there
Agreed! TedX: please get Rid of it ASAP!
I was trying to work out what they were saying. I can make out parts of it.
@@blahdelablah I'm loading the audio into Audacity to isolate the whisper track
Whew! Thank God.......Im happy to see comments about the whispering. I thought I was going crazy!
There is a very irritating whisperer in this video.
Vital Statistix Yes and I just thought it was me....
LOL gives me an interesting idea. Thinking about isolating the 'whisper track'.
I am a savant and am shown new sources of energy, like hall edge state. This direction this man is talking about is too simplistic.
You're quite GENEROUS! I don't think he's talking about ANYTHING!
This guy needs to come to the point.
he made the point 9:00-9.30
"Design a Li-ion battery with five times x the storage, at 20% the [current] price" and at the same time move an ion into, and out of, a solid state electrode [many thousands of times] without structural degradation...
He made it earlier than that, he really likes talking about shoes
i couldn't finish watching because, the whisperers were too distracting
Jeff Chamberlain is a brilliant man.
Informative n interesting talk. Thank you, bless you . Àll your dreams come true.
Facebook listens and collects
everything you put into it and does not forget forever
instablaster
This is guy is all over the place, this is the most disperse TED talk ever in the history of disperse talks...
It's not just the power we need but the need to afford it.
Shame about the whispering in the background, very unprofessional.
I learned that this man is a scientist who loves football and ribs and hails from the Midwest. That’s the only thing that sticks...
I like this guy's analogies.
Whew! Glad I scrolled down to read comments.....thought the voices I was hearing were only in my head....again.....nice to know I wasn't alone this time. Comforting.
very good talk thank very much !
Very well delivered speech.
I was waiting however for a "bomb shell" idea that never seemed to arrive?
+Chris Clayburn What I got from it is his team is getting closer in finding the requirements to build a better battery.
jmitterii2 thanks for the update!
Chris Clayburn 4yl
Wishing your project great success, Jeff! Nice presentation.
My MacBook Air's 4-year-old Li-Ion Battery ain't what she used to be, that's for sure.
+Funandconsciousness Did you just call your battery a "she"
why is there an ambient mic, when he is mic'd up?
brilliant presentation & thinking Thanks amazing
What happen to the sound here:
1. at least two sound sources; input from the stage mixer and input from the camera mic, which should be muted with external input
2. the input is not split between left and right, so it's hard to be edited out
A beautiful talk. The answers to his question are given by Robert Heilbroner and William Milberg in the books: the Worldly Philosophers; and, The making of Economic Society.
it's fun to watch this video now that solid state batteries have been invented. Can't wait until they become a common production product.
Good talk
A lot of rural America doesn't have cell phone coverage and it isn't coming anytime soon. Internet is available by satellite only and it is expensive and slow.
Holy cow the whispering close to wherever the recording source was XD ...ridiculous
Play at 1.5x playback speed. ;)
Much better.
Lol, thank you.
It was actually causing me pain trying to listen to him at normal speed.
I am so glad that I am not tied to anything electrical or superficially materialistic. I could care less if my phone went dead. The mother of invention/creation/or creating, is necessity~!~
It would have been better if your phone died halfway through your comment
This is the greatest lecture I have ever heard. Amazing.
When my cordless tools die, I just pop in another battery. If there were induction coils in the road, you could charge while you drive.
I'm so tired of people saying "Thomas Edison" invented the Light bulb. He Clearly was just the employer the Actual inventor.
imagine a low battery on your car. So exactly like being low on gas except i can charge my car overnight.
Side note if electric cars start acting like phones and jump from 20% life to 3% that could be a problem (but if i understand the battery pack correctly, it actually has a bunch of batteries so it is unlikely that they will all fail like that at the same time)
Yes, you can charge your battery overnight. I can refill my gas tank in three minutes. Did I misunderstand the intention of your first sentence?
OK, it's June 2019, where's this wonderful new battery ?
Failure is beginning too look like a reality maybe they should scrap the new cookbook and stop watching football
Three d printing in space
If you get anxiety from a low battery on your phone, you've got bigger problems.
What?
Bone Doc - Interesting point! But note that bigger problems make solving the battery issue even more important.
So what's the status on LiON batteries today? This video is about 5 years old...
inspiring ending
From Wikipedia, AA battery energy storage 9500 joules, Potato chip, 41,000 joules, Ham and cheese 1,500,000 joules. Stick a ham sandwich in your laptop.
Edit: potato chip 1.9 gram AA 25g - energy density whoops, a 25g potato chip is a bag full of batteries.
As long as you have a shopping bag, you will have to return to the market to get your food.
Whatever happened to a school girl who about two years ago invented a battery that charged a phone in seconds?
Good presentation!
4 years later - - where is the super battery ? So much for the super computer !!!
Would’ve like to hear what he had to say but couldn’t listen for more than 5 minutes. TED needs to hire professionals to record their talks - workers who have respect for the speaker and members of the audience, and for the job they’re being paid to do.
Lot of potential using "spintronics" technology. We should be using polarized or individually coherent atoms like like dominoes falling and flipping over more and more tiny atom magnets that increase the energy output as more flip over in unison.
I heard no whispering, just this guy running on and on with superfluous stories.
Why aren't mobile phones powered by kinetic devices or a solar array on the back of the case, even the screen can be modified to become light sensitive and produce power.
Did you guys see that comment about the whispering?
It’s been 5 years and did he invent or better yet bring to market this better battery or do we still have hear about magic solid state batteries of or for tomorrow that may or may not come
stopped watching, distracted till I could no longer listen.
Guy talks for twenty minutes and says absolutely nothing...
what a waste of time.
why not just socialism? You can run phones for years on Socialism. I think Socialism is the battery of the future.
the people talking in the recording area freaked me out
Nothing there.
we need to design devices which do not need charging.
The question is , are you eliminating halogenated vinyl and halogenated carbon manufacture and use as we agreed to in the chemical weapon manufacture treaty enforcement and EPA mission. These molecules convert light and heat energy to electrons. This quality is changing the composition of the atmosphere and the chemistry of the environment in serious and persistent damaging effects.
I don't think we need something that stores more energy for less money. We need something we can carry with us (or at least in our cars) that *_creates_* virtually infinite energy on demand. e = mc² means it's possible.
Following the suggestions of previous commenters, speeding this video up to 1.5X makes the Much better to listen to, if not watch!
Why do oh so many TED talks appear in the main to be marketing opportunities?
That's the point of TED talks. TED is a fundraiser platform.
Brainbuster Why the "duh"?
***** Because that's what TED is...inventors and such trying to get the billionaires in the audience to donate to their idea.
Brainbuster Yeah ok, but why the "duh"? Please.
***** I removed the "duh."
OPEN MIC ALARM!!! :P
Where is that battery now?
wtf....zero new info
I people would prevent murders of inventors (by you know who) we wouldn't have problems with energy, we wouldn't have most other problems too.
.....and sometimes (like within this video) the solution is right there but we don't see it or shuffle it around and never use it. The magical term is used in this video but in a different context. It's the same answer that was overlooked more than a century ago....."Tesla". If every phone had a Tesla Coil receiver instead of a battery, they would have constant power. We humans must like being tethered to an electrical cord and power lines.....and, your welcome, that I didn't use the phrase "Think outside the box". Now, I must get back to stripping copper wire.
Nikola Tesla was Genius personified! Edison was a hack in comparison. Apparently Jeff's schooling did not allow him to learn about and experience Tesla's over 700 patents! On the other hand, Jeff, you do experience them every day of your life.. You just don't know it!
Gets interesting about 11 minutes in
There is a very international program developing a commercial fusion plant right now. Don't tell the Donald he'll pull out! This one will probably work. That's why even the Brits are cooperating.
please make the volume lower.
We can't turn down the volume on your computer from where we are.
Call a plumber.
Brainbuster there are people that get it and then there is you
he mentions Edison having 100 engineers but why is Edison the role model? Nikola Tesla i would take over Edison any day
The point was about the need for teamwork, not who was more brilliant.
The Industrial Revolution.
3 Points. 1) great smoke and mirrors presentation. 2)Study your history Edison was not a genius, he wasn't smart enough to invent anything, he didn't invent the light bulb, he bought the patents from 2 Canadian guys.. What Edison had was money and drive to get great engineers to invent things for him, that was his gift. 3) A dry dielectric battery has already been made by a chemist that solves all the problems you mentioned . It was on the discovery channel years ago.. However, something must have gone wrong as it is 2020 and still there is no such battery in production
I don't have a cell phone or need one.
It is extremely naive to believe that a battery which has 5 times as much power, will last longer than a single day. It is axiomatic, that phone makers will find a way to consume ANY and EVERY battery in less than a day. That is the way engineers work: you give them a battery which lasts five times as long, and they don't make a phone which lasts 5 days between charges - NO WAY! They figure out what cool shit they can do with that extra power, *and they use all of it - because that extra cool shit sells phones!*
The battery is the only thing holding the phone back! Hell, it can contain barometric sensors, and accelerometers, a small laser, a powered zoom lens, a more powerful light for the camera, 3D camera lenses, and a host of other cool things we can't even imagine now.
As a historic point of accuracy; it wasn't the Wright brothers who flew first. It was Richard Pearce, in Temuka, New Zealand, whose aeroplane had ailerons, and an air-cooled alloy aero-engine of his own design and manufacture. He patented the aileron, but that patent expired before the industry got into full swing, and he died penniless and alone, and totally ignored by history. He was a true genius.
yes that´s true in the case of smartphnes, tablets and little things, but in the case of cars I hope We can one day run 800km with a single charge, and if we have 5 times more energy them use it other extra cool shit.
you are absolutely correct
I got annoyed waiting for content so I skipped ahead a few times. There isn’t any.
enzymes in the human gut convert matter into energy it is the enzyme that holds the key to quick charge long life batteries.
A better solution is being developed by MIT professor Don Sadoway (check out his TED talk). Liquid Metal Battery. Low cost, high power, long lived, scalable. Currently beta testing in Hawaii.
The Liquid Metal Battery needs 270 C to operate. That is not better at all.
So you insulate it. Not a problem. Don't dismiss a good solution because it is different..
Greg Collins I am not dismissing it because it is different. I am dismissing it because it is not practical.
> dismissing it because it is not practical
I'm sure someone said that about the internal combustion engine at some point..
One thing leads to the next. Sorry, platitudes are just so convenient. If it isn't Liquid Metal then it will be something else, like plasmatic flatulency. The smartest minds in the world are working on a energy storage solution, they'll figure something out. Probably graphene super caps but who knows. The upside is too great not to find a solution. Invest in material science...
A supercomputer is still subject to its program. Wrong programs that still work but don't give correct answers. One needs to have total confidence in the programmer ...
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I disagree that"Wrong programs that still work". My take is... a WRONG program doesn't REALLY "work" if it's doing the WRONG thing; It's just taking up time, space and resources -- much like this video, with seemingly NO REAL PURPOSEFUL REASON for running! ;-) Also, as a Computer Scientist with 35+ years of programming experience, I NEVER have TOTAL confidence in ANY programmer, including MYSELF. One thing I have learned over the years is that... BUGS EXIST! ;-) Be it from typos, errors in logic, incorrect problem or solution definition(s), etc. I prefer to have confidence that the programmer is willing and able to find and correct his or her own mistakes!
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I would like every roof tile on my house to be a solar device making the roof of my house a whole of Roof Solar Array.
MaxB6852 expensive and not scalable. If efficiency gets over 50% then maybe
"For good or for bad" race toward that end; conservation of humanity be damned.
Argonne is often not the brightest bulbs on the Christmas Tree . . . you can sort of see it in their projects and their work product from time-to-time. This is one of those times. Looks like they are trying to be on the cutting edge of about . . . 1990.
The idea that the Grid stays (or must stay) perfectly balanced is rather silly (starts at 3:45). In actual practice local grids float up and down all day, some areas as much as 20%, and things work fine. And with newer equipment (such as computers, phones, most electronics) which tend to come with their own internal power supply and controls - the grid voltage can float even much further.
There is little to no Grid Level "Storage" needed to continue to add Solar and Wind. We will still be bankrupting existing Coal and Nukes (baseload) off line for the next decade or two. Beyond that, regional and international HVDC (High Voltage DC) will connect across 1000s of miles and stabilize the background levels across continents. No Storage Required.
Batteries are fine for remote -- beyond the grid - applications, but those level of storage largely already exists, and Electric Vehicles are already heading towards being directly Grid Powered from the Roadway, so their need for Batteries will fade, as well. Again, little to no Batteries required.
RUDE people chatting is so insulting to the speaker. However, it really sounds like there was a mic left on,
I have just wasted 20 minutes.
6 years later, and we have not heard anything from Jeff Chamberlain.
Has he been bowling all this time?
Look up Troy Reed.
Magnet Motors are the future. There are two magnet motor devices on the market now, an in home and a hand held charger with an USB port. Always running, always working. A miniature magnet motor in every device keeping it changed continuously. Electricity on demand anywhere in the world,...free.
He's over thinking it!
BIGGER IS ALLWAYS BETTER (for now, only considering batteries;-)!!! We have dense enough power storage devices, fahr from perfect, but WAAAY more than good enough, the Li-Ion and Li-Ion-Polymer batteries!!!
They (manufacturers/designers/whoever) just use, in oppinion of most customers, waaaay too small batteries in phones/tablets/laptops (and whatever hybrid devices) and similar products.
Most people would not mind 15%-30% increase in size and volume, and slight increase in price of their battery powered products, if all that space was taken by larger(or additional cells) battery. Very large, and growing, market for powerbanks shows this is true for pretty large percentage of users...
Batteries of any sort are obsolete! Look up Troy Reed to see why.
water ?
The Industry, not singled out persons, not small or medium buisnesses, but the big corporations do the motherlaod of patents every year. If a small company does an important one, normaly it is sold out not much later. Can you imagine what happens next? The big corporations look at their production lines and calculate if it would be more profitable to change the production line or keep the same shit they are already producing, only in the case that another corporation would bring something new to the market which would eat up the first companies market shares, only then they would use that new patent. That leads to a ton of unused pattents.
Before we invest all our tax money in something which later on corrporations buy and then do not use, perhaps we should think about some sort of pressure point so we make sure pattents are at least used once and if not successfully used, the patent would become public domain and if not used at all for like a year it also would become public domain.
also, the name you were looking for is "The Dude"
kinn grimm, that would be amazing.
Patents expire in 17 years, becoming, as you say, public domain. Bringing a new technology to market normally takes many years, not one year.
19:25 For bad as it turns out because click bait profit 'trumps' facts and ethics...
TED needs a competent sound engineer......... we can control the volume at our end.
...now take your supercomputer and calculate how many trees you cut to build that peace of you know what...are you exciteing.OK,now check this:every single tree is a supercomputer you don't know how to use it.What on Earth you think you(and your father,your grand father,...)been doing,who's ...ing who...
Will our government be able to stop this revolution you are talking about? Since it would be a very serious threat to coal?
@2:20 they start whispering subliminal messages
Crazy; I hear other voices talking, trying to be quiet.
All the fuss and controversy when we already have a working solution that can cover the base loads, the nuclear genie is out of the bottle, why not put him to work?
Is Ted becoming a soapbox for shills?
...That's how it started.
TEDx seems to be attracting that.
He mentions the possibility of failure - well, apparently they did. I can't find anything usefull that have come out of that misterious project.
The cameraman was so annoying with that whispering 😒
Advanced Nuclear is the future not the hope of creating giant batteries...
The race is up for energy storage, batteries or gravity field storage for big and small cities. Some science is trying to get energy out of carbon dioxide how cool would it be to change carbon dioxide back in to oxygen to produce energy, so far only plants have the know how making their existence and ours one single process.
There's this thing called thermodynamics. You should check it out.
WHAT DOES THAT MEAN?!
Worst TED talk ever; 20 minutes of blather and I learned nothing
God has given us the perfect solar storage medium - water - it can store the kind of energy battery people dream about as H202
Track record ? powered the worlds fastest and quickest cars - safely
It can return 02 to our air- can any battery do that ?