Love all the examples Andy 👌 Just this week I managed a bronze award with an international judge (Tony Hewitt) for ICM. He said it is difficult to get a good one that makes some sense. I just love that humour coming out, it gave me a good laugh. I was watching that dude in the blue jacket watching you on the pier 🤣 I am going to try some ICM with peeps in them, thanks for the inspiration 👌👌
I really don't like filming in public like that. He wasn't the only "watcher" and having a 360 camera for this work does expose how people notice me! Anyway, like wow, a Bronze Award! That's amazing. Chuffed for you. Well done. I think ICM in busy shopping streets is a great place to start with people. There's batteries and batteries worth of shots in every street (though shopping mall management may not be happy if you shoot inside). Give them a go. Check out Kate Barclay on Insta, Vero or Faceache,, she's very good at it (and seascapes).
Hey, thanks very much. Yes, Cromer is a great place. All the coastal towns around here are worth exploring. I have holiday cottages locally if you want to visit. Two are within a few hundred yards of the beaches.
Another good video 👍 I love the first two pics you show, particularly the second one. I live across the road from the sea so will be giving this ago tomorrow. Keep the videos coming.
Hi Andrew, I preferred the images with the people in them, especially those wearing bright colours, red, yellow etc. But all the images were good mate and the tips have all been taken on board 🙂
Thanks Steve. Bright colours (especially in a sea of wishywashy pastels) will always grab the eye and this is also true of recognisable shapes. It's precisely why ICM is very hit and miss as we are typically drawn to an image that can be instantly recognised in some way. Abstract has to grab us in different ways and can be much more challenging if it's particularly abstract. Of course, with ICM, you can make almost any recognisable subject Abstract.
Excellent video Andrew, last time i did ICM was 2015 and thoroughly enjoyed it. I must be due for another session anytime soon. My subjects among many were Birch trees, black bamboo, common reed heads, all over my local nature reserve. I will look forward to the next video thank you.
Thank you. Bamboo and other objects with regular lines tend to be exceptional subjects. I have had some very interesting icms with reeds too. I think there's some in a.video from last March.
Nice captures, Andy. I've only tried this a few times but found it very difficult to get something decent, however, you've given me a few new ideas to get out there and try again. Your captures on the pier remind me of Olga Karlovac's images. Are you familiar with her work?
Like anything, getting a decent shot needs you to start with a reasonable comp. Most of the same comp rules still apply. Additionally, colour contrast can play a bigger role and, of course, understanding which way to move the camera for particular subjects and/or effects. Now, for Olga Karlovac. Err. No. Confession time. I am very uncultured when it comes to photography. I have never really followed or learned about other togs and it's a real deficiency in my knowledge. I will check her out, thank you.
Hello, my friend. You know this isn't really my thing. But I like the one of two people against the background of the sea. If you start involving buildings, I think it gets a bit too busy. But like everything, this is a matter of taste and very personal. You get very impressionistic pictures. But when I see that third photo I think again about what I'm complaining about the busy buildings in the background. This is a very nice ICM photo. I also think that the way you move the camera has a lot of influence on the result. By this I mean turning or moving up and down, this influences the result. What you do see in the work you show is that you have worked with it more and that you have experience in it. The one under the bridge turned out really well, at least I think so. What I do want to point out is that you have a creative way of editing films. Another very interesting video, Andrew. Anyway, I really enjoyed watching it. Greetings from the Netherlands, Antoine.
Hello, Antoine, I hope you are well. Yes, choosing the movement and matching it to the subject is everything. It's the difference between a blurry mess and something that can be recognised as an identifiable shape. ICM can be very difficult to get a meaningful image but like any genre, there's a lot of understanding of how shapes interact and colours contrast. Composition is important too. A lot of people may think that anyone can do this work, you just shake the camera, right? I was quite surprised how the shot under the pier turned out. Obviously, there's a certain degree of processing on it, but when we're working with abstract shapes and light, that's fine. I really quite like that one and may put a print of it in one of our holiday cottages. Stay safe. Andy
Inspiring videos. Thanks. As a confirmed pixel peeper I'll have a go at it. I'll be shifting from UCM to ICM, the non-rocket version. We have to be careful nowadays.
Funny funny video! Love the concepts you present and this was super interesting. So, in summary, you were using a fairly wide lens, nd or polarising filters, shutter priority and a fairly low shutter speed of approx 1/3 second? Did I miss anything? I’m keen to try this!
You can use any shutter speed that will help you capture movement in fairness. 1/4 - 1 second work well, but it really depends on what you're shooting and how complicated your movement is. For example, if you're trying to trace the shape of something, 1 second is probably not long enough. The only camera setting that matters really is the shutter speed, DOF is unimportant; just get an exposure.
I use whatever mode is most suitable for my needs at the time. Why would i make my task more challenging by using manual where apperture priority (pr sometimes shutter priority) make the job easier? There are a number of false beliefs about photography and one is that you're not a "pro" if you don't use Manual. Why? Is the camera making the composition, choosing the location, time of day, finding the decisive moment? No. Never does it do this. But it has within it a meter that can determine the most appropriate exposure settings which is something our brains cannot do (at least not with the same speed or accuracy). So, I use the tools that my expensive peice of kit has had designed into it. A man dressed in black driving a grieving family to a grave will use automatic gears because of the smoothness of the ride. It's the best option for the task in hand. This man is professional driver using his tool to the do the job in the most efficient manner.
@@AndyBanner I'm certainly no pro photographer and I often use shutter control when I'm strolling with the camera, but when I'm doing landscapes I want total control over what's going on. That's because for me, with landscapes, every aspect of the image has equal value. Each to their own, I was only asking.
Hi thx for the video and advice but for someone who are just starting with icm and that’s on a tight budget which filter would you recommend as first filter. Is it polarizing or ND and would it be for example Nisi VN 1-5 and 5-9 or just a fixed 3, 6, 10 stop. Thx
Yes, I would recommend turning off all stabilisation. There's no point in having the camera fight against you. I have actually had my Olympus em1mk2 stabilise some small intentional movements when I have left it on.
@@AndyBanner Thanks! I thought this would be the case. You and others have definitely inspired my creative side again so thanks. Also I binged a few of your vids yesterday and found them very entertaining. You have a unique style not replicated by most other photographers so keep making them. Hopefully fame and fortune will follow. I also watched your serious one, to that I say dwelling does no good, cherish the present. Thank this from someone who went though 10 years of chemo trials and a bone marrow transplant… seize the day!
Love this video….very, very helpful! Love the images you’ve captured and seeing & hearing you speak about the types of movement and then seeing the final results - I learned so much. THX 😊
Liked especially photos 6: 48, 16: 03 and my favorite at 20:26 😍 But 8:05 and 12: 40 give me positive nostalgic feelings ! So I like them all ! Thank you Andrew 🌞
It not a good idea to use iBIS as it's going to fight against you and this will be particularly troublesome with small movements and jitters. Check out some of my ICM tips videos, they may help you.
Thanks for your helpful tips. You got some good pics. It would be nice to see (on the pics) the mm, shutter speed and iso. Your image presentation is nice but I really like how you show the different movements you use to capture the shots.
Thank you. Why do you think would it help you to know the technical data of any given image? I have totally stopped providing this on my videos because I don't think it's of any use at all as you cannot hope to recreate any image given that information anyway. Knowing the technical data won't take you any further. Of course, you can emphasise movement by using a longer focal length and using a slower shutter speen too. The ISO will impact the shutter speed of course so use the lowest you can to get a .5 second or so so. The most important thing for ICM in bright light is an ND filter and I would recommend a VND to get the greatest control. Other than that, the.technical stuff of any given shot is mostly useless information.
So far one of the best channel about photography.
Don't be silly! :-)
Thanks for making me laugh Andy.. fabulous images too.
My pleasure. Glad you enjoyed it!
Love all the examples Andy 👌 Just this week I managed a bronze award with an international judge (Tony Hewitt) for ICM. He said it is difficult to get a good one that makes some sense. I just love that humour coming out, it gave me a good laugh. I was watching that dude in the blue jacket watching you on the pier 🤣 I am going to try some ICM with peeps in them, thanks for the inspiration 👌👌
I really don't like filming in public like that. He wasn't the only "watcher" and having a 360 camera for this work does expose how people notice me! Anyway, like wow, a Bronze Award! That's amazing. Chuffed for you. Well done. I think ICM in busy shopping streets is a great place to start with people. There's batteries and batteries worth of shots in every street (though shopping mall management may not be happy if you shoot inside). Give them a go. Check out Kate Barclay on Insta, Vero or Faceache,, she's very good at it (and seascapes).
Love your relaxed approach to ICM 😁
Is there any other way? Life's way too frenetic to not slow down when you have a camera in your hand.
Brilliant, as always Andrew. Cromer looks like a great place to gets some snaps 💥
Hey, thanks very much. Yes, Cromer is a great place. All the coastal towns around here are worth exploring. I have holiday cottages locally if you want to visit. Two are within a few hundred yards of the beaches.
Another good video 👍 I love the first two pics you show, particularly the second one. I live across the road from the sea so will be giving this ago tomorrow. Keep the videos coming.
Thanks, Gary. I hope you get some bangers.
Really nice. I think sea horizons have scope for both horizontal and vertical movement.
Yes, you are probably right, BUT, I think you need to have continuous movement rather than linger at any point and burn a line in the image.
Hi Andrew, I preferred the images with the people in them, especially those wearing bright colours, red, yellow etc. But all the images were good mate and the tips have all been taken on board 🙂
Thanks Steve. Bright colours (especially in a sea of wishywashy pastels) will always grab the eye and this is also true of recognisable shapes. It's precisely why ICM is very hit and miss as we are typically drawn to an image that can be instantly recognised in some way. Abstract has to grab us in different ways and can be much more challenging if it's particularly abstract. Of course, with ICM, you can make almost any recognisable subject Abstract.
Excellent video Andrew, last time i did ICM was 2015 and thoroughly enjoyed it. I must be due for another session anytime soon. My subjects among many were Birch trees, black bamboo, common reed heads, all over my local nature reserve. I will look forward to the next video thank you.
Thank you. Bamboo and other objects with regular lines tend to be exceptional subjects. I have had some very interesting icms with reeds too. I think there's some in a.video from last March.
@@AndyBanner will check it out.
Nice captures, Andy. I've only tried this a few times but found it very difficult to get something decent, however, you've given me a few new ideas to get out there and try again. Your captures on the pier remind me of Olga Karlovac's images. Are you familiar with her work?
Like anything, getting a decent shot needs you to start with a reasonable comp. Most of the same comp rules still apply. Additionally, colour contrast can play a bigger role and, of course, understanding which way to move the camera for particular subjects and/or effects.
Now, for Olga Karlovac. Err. No. Confession time. I am very uncultured when it comes to photography. I have never really followed or learned about other togs and it's a real deficiency in my knowledge. I will check her out, thank you.
Great!
Thanks
Hello, my friend.
You know this isn't really my thing.
But I like the one of two people against the background of the sea.
If you start involving buildings, I think it gets a bit too busy.
But like everything, this is a matter of taste and very personal.
You get very impressionistic pictures.
But when I see that third photo I think again about what I'm complaining about the busy buildings in the background.
This is a very nice ICM photo.
I also think that the way you move the camera has a lot of influence on the result.
By this I mean turning or moving up and down, this influences the result.
What you do see in the work you show is that you have worked with it more and that you have experience in it.
The one under the bridge turned out really well, at least I think so.
What I do want to point out is that you have a creative way of editing films.
Another very interesting video, Andrew.
Anyway, I really enjoyed watching it.
Greetings from the Netherlands,
Antoine.
Hello, Antoine, I hope you are well.
Yes, choosing the movement and matching it to the subject is everything. It's the difference between a blurry mess and something that can be recognised as an identifiable shape. ICM can be very difficult to get a meaningful image but like any genre, there's a lot of understanding of how shapes interact and colours contrast. Composition is important too. A lot of people may think that anyone can do this work, you just shake the camera, right?
I was quite surprised how the shot under the pier turned out. Obviously, there's a certain degree of processing on it, but when we're working with abstract shapes and light, that's fine. I really quite like that one and may put a print of it in one of our holiday cottages.
Stay safe. Andy
@@AndyBanner Thank you for the reaction, my friend. I going next week photograph again. Little steps and it will be okay.
Inspiring videos. Thanks. As a confirmed pixel peeper I'll have a go at it. I'll be shifting from UCM to ICM, the non-rocket version. We have to be careful nowadays.
haha. hope you get some amazing images
I like your videos. I was wondering do you switch off the IBIS for ICM?
Yes, turn of all stabilisation. There's no point in having your camera fight against you.
Funny funny video! Love the concepts you present and this was super interesting. So, in summary, you were using a fairly wide lens, nd or polarising filters, shutter priority and a fairly low shutter speed of approx 1/3 second? Did I miss anything? I’m keen to try this!
You can use any shutter speed that will help you capture movement in fairness. 1/4 - 1 second work well, but it really depends on what you're shooting and how complicated your movement is. For example, if you're trying to trace the shape of something, 1 second is probably not long enough. The only camera setting that matters really is the shutter speed, DOF is unimportant; just get an exposure.
Always compared ICM with drippy paint, but it seems like fun
It's SO much more.
Question: why do you not use full manual for landscapes?
I use whatever mode is most suitable for my needs at the time. Why would i make my task more challenging by using manual where apperture priority (pr sometimes shutter priority) make the job easier? There are a number of false beliefs about photography and one is that you're not a "pro" if you don't use Manual. Why? Is the camera making the composition, choosing the location, time of day, finding the decisive moment? No. Never does it do this. But it has within it a meter that can determine the most appropriate exposure settings which is something our brains cannot do (at least not with the same speed or accuracy). So, I use the tools that my expensive peice of kit has had designed into it.
A man dressed in black driving a grieving family to a grave will use automatic gears because of the smoothness of the ride. It's the best option for the task in hand. This man is professional driver using his tool to the do the job in the most efficient manner.
@@AndyBanner I'm certainly no pro photographer and I often use shutter control when I'm strolling with the camera, but when I'm doing landscapes I want total control over what's going on. That's because for me, with landscapes, every aspect of the image has equal value. Each to their own, I was only asking.
Hi thx for the video and advice but for someone who are just starting with icm and that’s on a tight budget which filter would you recommend as first filter. Is it polarizing or ND and would it be for example Nisi VN 1-5 and 5-9 or just a fixed 3, 6, 10 stop. Thx
I would recommend any of the K&F Concept filters. Best you get a variable ND.
Andrew, do you have IBIS off when doing ICM?
Yes, I would recommend turning off all stabilisation. There's no point in having the camera fight against you. I have actually had my Olympus em1mk2 stabilise some small intentional movements when I have left it on.
@@AndyBanner Thanks! I thought this would be the case. You and others have definitely inspired my creative side again so thanks. Also I binged a few of your vids yesterday and found them very entertaining. You have a unique style not replicated by most other photographers so keep making them. Hopefully fame and fortune will follow. I also watched your serious one, to that I say dwelling does no good, cherish the present. Thank this from someone who went though 10 years of chemo trials and a bone marrow transplant… seize the day!
Thank you. Sage advice, I am sure. Difficult to implement though.
Love this video….very, very helpful! Love the images you’ve captured and seeing & hearing you speak about the types of movement and then seeing the final results - I learned so much. THX 😊
Thanks for watching and for taking the trouble to comment.
Liked especially photos 6: 48, 16: 03 and my favorite at 20:26 😍 But 8:05 and 12: 40 give me positive nostalgic feelings ! So I like them all ! Thank you Andrew 🌞
Glad you enjoyed it! Thanks so much for your continued support.
Have you tried the bridge up side down? It looks like an abstract mountain.
You mean the pier? Heck, with ICM, you can make it look like so many things.
Dear Andrew, do you use IBIS during ICM?
It not a good idea to use iBIS as it's going to fight against you and this will be particularly troublesome with small movements and jitters. Check out some of my ICM tips videos, they may help you.
Thanks for your helpful tips. You got some good pics. It would be nice to see (on the pics) the mm, shutter speed and iso. Your image presentation is nice but I really like how you show the different movements you use to capture the shots.
Thank you.
Why do you think would it help you to know the technical data of any given image? I have totally stopped providing this on my videos because I don't think it's of any use at all as you cannot hope to recreate any image given that information anyway. Knowing the technical data won't take you any further. Of course, you can emphasise movement by using a longer focal length and using a slower shutter speen too. The ISO will impact the shutter speed of course so use the lowest you can to get a .5 second or so so. The most important thing for ICM in bright light is an ND filter and I would recommend a VND to get the greatest control. Other than that, the.technical stuff of any given shot is mostly useless information.
@@AndyBanner thank you for the follow up reply. As I think about what you said it makes perfect sense👍🏽
16:01 that's 'very effective' mate
Cheers, Ian
Thank you so much
You're most welcome
I love the triangle shape pier shot. Thank you!