this all reminds me of those old MS paint base edits where people would draw exactly like this, using the line tools to create lineart. feels really nostalgic now that i've been a digital artist for over half a decade.
Me:Sees this Me after watching video: I understood that animators and writers we're on strike, but by watching this I got a whole new angle as to how difficult animation is and that animators really need to get paid more! This is not just drawing, it's an insane proces....
Animators are not currently on strike, only SAG-AFTRA (actors) and the WGA (writers) are on strike! The Animation Guild’s contract ends next year. :] But I’m glad it gave you a new perspective nonetheless!!!
@@GalaxColor A union contract is a set of terms and conditions the company/employer and the union agreed upon. Contracts generally last around 3 years, and are negotiated again after it ends. Meaning, when the Animation Guild’s contract ends, that’s when they’ll negotiate with their employers, and if they don’t agree, there’s a chance they may strike. Hope this makes sense 👍
I’m a second year animation student and never thought of cleaning up by bending straight lines, I think I’m gonna give it a shot soon. Thanks for the idea, this video is so helpful!
Funny enough, after asking my animator boyfriend why Cotton Candy is good, he wondered if there was a breakdown video. And then I saw this was posted 3 minutes after I shared the link with him xD. Good job!
Vector lines are far easier to do with a mouse cause you can control the nodes and make precise lines easier. It's actually WAY more tedious to do vector art with a pen and manually doing line art is a fallacy. It's just not efficient to do it that way because some idiot artists on youtube tell you that's the way (and spam the undo key). When you're on a time budget, you don't have time to use the UNDO key 100 times to get the perfect stroke. that's as bad a habit as not cooking your eggs because "in Japan, the eggs are healthy for you when they're uncooked". You're not in Japan and salmonella is a real problem.
Yeah, Vector lines. mathematcially generated strokes using nodes and points. No one seriously hand draws line art cause you can't reuse the strokes for future frames, an unsteady hand means redoing the line over and over, and it's a MASSIVE waste of time with no progress. You'll see it a lot on youtube videos, but as they say, "you wouldn't listen to a doctor who's still in high school, so why would you listen to an artist who's more worried about how you make the piece than what the final piece is?"
@ i made that comment a year ago man and trust me now i had finally had my fair share of vector lines and even tho i only sketch animations for now im going to be using vector lines for clean animation
@@TamWam_ I know this is a year late, but I saw this again so I decided to pitch in. I'm 1 1/2 years in, and I don't go do a animation specific school like Scad or Ringling. I go to a a big university with the best animation program in my state. This uni has almost every major you can think of btw. Sole Animation schools allow you to pick more specific majors, while I'm only able to take a general animation major. So I need to learn all kinds of animation, such as hand drawn 2D, 2D rigs and puppeting, 3D, VFX, motion graphics, etc. You also have to take preproduction (bodies in motion) and a photography class. However this general uni is WAYYYY cheaper then even the cheapest animation schools, and you're getting the same education. It's just you can't major in a spefifc kind of animation, like 2D for example. I went to a community college first and got my Assioates of arts there. So I actually have an advantage compared to my peers, I'm definitely more towards the top in the 2D department. But in others like motion graphics I'm average, and I don't want to talk about my 3D stuff haha. My major warning is that if you aren't into 3D work, and you're going to a school that's also generalized like mine, teach yourself how to make 3D art NOW. The first thing we were told in my intro to 3D class is over HALF the students change their major, fail, or straight up drop out/quit because of how hard the learning curve is compared to 2D. And it ended up being true. Over half my class was gone by the end of the semester I managed to make it, but I struggled. Got a B, but a C is required to pass lab classes. Ive heard actual animation spefic schools promote a very, very unhealthy work ethic, so that's another pro of foing to a general uni that has animation as a major. Also, if the school has a SIGGRAPH club, JOIN. IT. It's hard to explain it here so I'd recommend googling it. Final thing, since my school doesn't require a pre made portfolio to get accepted, we have a thing called "candidacy," which is a huge deal at my school. Halfway through your 4 years, you have to apply for it. You basically get interviewed by the highest of the higher ups in the animation department, and determine if you're going to make it in the industry. If you fail this, you get one other shot, fail again, you get kicked out of the major. It's brutal and I have to apply for it next semester this Spring sooo... Im praying here lmao. Sorry if this is scary at all, but I'm having a very good time at school and I'd say keep pushing and go for your dreams!
@StainedGlassLamp tysm for the detailed reply, I'm saving this for later lol, I do appreciate the advice sm :) I'll still try to chase my goal, even if I dont up getting the major
thank you for posting this! i naively had no idea what a clean-up artist is, since im not truly deeply into art. i never knew how much hard work and patience went into it!! awesome job!!
It's not something you'd normally knew about even if you were deeply into it. I'd like to break the stereotype that rough animators do everything or do the most of the work, in reality, it's just a half. I have no idea why, but there isn't enough information about cleanup animation. I wanna change that
I'm a first year animation student and videos like these are really helpful and appreciated, especially because my school doesn't really teach any software. I'm also aspiring to be an intern for spindlehorse! Working on my portfolio
H- How... That's impressive! I still find it interesting to watch people draw and animate, animate things like this! Also watching the progress of the episode is interesting too! Keep up your work!
I want to ask a question to a professional animator, like you; especially on working on helluva Boss + using Toonboom....how Long does it take you to animate a segment of animation (persay 10 - 20 seconds)? I get complexity...but in general??😮 I hope to someday work for real! Also Lovely work your partaking into creating this gorgeous cartoon and for the team!!!!!❤❤❤
10 seconds is a lot, 20 is huge. So it'd take me 2 weeks at least. More realistic is having 5 seconds per week if you're asking about work that gives you money. Thank you and good luck!
I'm an aspiring animator and this inspires me :) I'm doing GCSE art but plan to major in animation and I'll probably start an indie project or work for one!
This is so cool! As someone interested in going into a career in animation but cannot for the life of me actually draw action, it's so cool to see alternative career options that are still in the same field of work. Cleanup animation looks like a time-consuming undertaking, but it's also so satisfying to see the finished result, and I imagine that it's even more satisfying after being the one doing the work! This was so cool to see, and I definitely enjoyed being able to see the process. Great job! This looks really good!
Yeah. I'm a trackpad user for clean-up. Thank you for showing real-time. I've been really cucked-up on my working speed thinking maybe I'm way too slow. But IRL time you showed made me realise I'd gained some unrealistic expectations from too many timelapsed videos.
@@emptyvoid_ roughly how long would you take for the clean-up of a 20-second scene (assuming the complexity of the scene is roughly the same as any typical helluva boss episode)? I'll take that as my goal for now :3
@@anonymousme3571 oh 20s is a loooong scene, I'd stop at 10s tbh! But if I had to complete it... 2 weeks at very least if we're talking about both line and colour, but it also depends for how long can you stare at the screen, I can't work for more than 6 hours per day nowadays
@anonymousme3571 at some point you start feeling your joints or even muscles ache from hypodynamia and also start prioritising your health above career or hobbies, I'd rather take a walk or sleep than draw/work like crazy (unless I absolutely FEEL like it)
I LOVE seeing stuff like this, but I could never do this. I would either have a slight panic attack, or I'd overcomplicate things. I need to figure out a way to stop drawing with 23 layers, 15 of which are invisible. lol Keep up the great work you guys!
I genuinely appreciate your insight into the use of vector brush contrasted with linetool, I've been using both but enjoy the linework via brush more, but ultimately the linetool is better because easier to work with later. You context for decisions in your process is priceless, thank you so much for this video, what a blessing
We usually pair every frame with the character design. That is why character has to be drawn front, side, and any angle in character's sheet if needed. If the dynamic action animation, keyposes of each movement must strictly look same, then the inbetween usually not as much details-it is fine. The point is the character sheet is your foundation. And yes solid drawing also the point to keep quality better.
Wait wait wait, you mean to tell me cleanup artist dont use their perfect strokes to clean, instead they use vector lines? That relieving and quite disappointing at the same time, great video! Im glad to see the process on this kind of stuff on a production for a series!
This was actually helpful because I am trying to make animations independent from a studio so now I sort of understand the process. Also it was helpful to show that clean up is better with mouse due to making lines with less points.
As someone who really wants to get into professional animation but is REALLY scared of it, what do you recommend I start off with when trying to get into the professional scene? :0
I love this video so much It really helped me get motivated to animate more !! I have a question, what toon boom pen or preset did you use to have the lines so straight and solid ?
Thank you for sharing this video! It's really hard to find a video were people show their progress when animating something for a series, I'm really curious about the process because I would like to enter in the industry someday. I'm learning on my own on how to use Toon Boom with some tutorials and your video is a really good experience on how it is done :D
Omggggggg thank u for explaining every process !! I plan to use toonboom in the future, but my godddd do i not know shit about all the buttons and secret cheats and stuff to make life easier. Explaining how to do the colouring especially is just, MUAH
i always thought artists would draw curves from scratch, good thing to know that curving a straight line just works better instead. and man i should really practice using toon boom harmony more also, mega based mouse user. i'd always prefer being able to see my cursor on the screen and where the lines start and end.
I’ve wanted todo animation since I first saw vivziepop years ago. Some ppl find these videos to seem stressful and tedious and they probably are but omg would I kill to do this as a job
keep in mind, this is the speed of cleaning up animation by computer. By hand, this would be done with a crew of 10 or more people that work day in and out. Computers are a godsend on animation
@emptyvoid_ OMG YOU RESPONDED SO QUICKLY?? 🙏😭💛 TYSM and jesus thats actually quite a lot, especially cause of how well made the whole animation is, dont be too humble on yourself! :3
Now I understand toonboom even more . Ive been using tooboom only for 2 months now . Im still new with all of the tools sonce i rarely use animation program that is vector foward. Honestly, its challenging
@emptyvoid_ honestly! Good thing I figured it out 😭. My animation production finally! And I wish to see more content like this from you ❤️❤️ I love seeing animation progress so much , it helped me improve alot
Yeah, having drawn in every possible way on the computer, Vector art is FAR easier to do with a mouse than with a pen. You can draw the line art with a pen but you really don't want to waste more time doing the whole "stroke/undo/stroke/undo" thing that amateur digital artists "learn" to do cause time is money and not making progress with every stroke is a complete waste of time as you have no evidence to show for it. Just better to be slightly slower and do vectors. This isn't the kind of place where an ego is worth the hours it takes to do one perfect frame. Plus you can reuse Vector lines in future frames by just shifting them instead of having to redo every line manually. Those time saving tricks are what makes these episodes take weeks to do instead of months. Major kudos showcasing what it looks like to be a professional line artist. A lot of people take digital art and animation for granted cause we only see the final result, but no one sees the hours/days/WEEKS/MONTHS it takes to have to do this...for EVERY frame of a 22 minute animation, let alone at 24 frames per SECOND, it adds up to doing this kind of work for over 4000 images, and that's just the line art, let alone the coloring, the sketching, the coreography, etc. Very underappreciated.
Holy crap this video is super helpful and inspiring! I know ppl have already asked questions and I’m sorry to add one, if you wouldn’t mind answering I’d be super greatful! What devices do you use in this? I know u mentioned a Wacom tablet. And also- would you possibly be able to do this on something like procreate? I’m working on my animation skills! Thanks for your time, you’re amazing!
Device doesn’t matter in my opinion, I’ve been using UGEE screen tablet for this video, then I moved and had to switch back to my old Wacom intuos. Now Huion sent me their Kamvas 13, so it’s just a matter of comfort
You can do rough animation anywhere you like, including just paper, but for cleanup animation it depends on the software requirements. In this case it’s possible to achieve the necessary result only in Harmony
Though I have large screen display pen, I'm still using lineart tool for cleanup since it has consistency weight and easy to control. If you use Clip Studio Paint, doing cleanup lineart in Vector Layer is a huge help as the lines are controllable, so the quality remains still. My standard studio is mostly 3.0, but rn I'm working on kid animation so the line weight must be 6.0-12.0 depending on hpw close/far character from camera.
Now I wonder, what chair do you use, or what do you recommend when sitting at a desk for long periods of time? I struggle just playing games for a few hours, even moreso when drawing
Amazing work!!! I'm currently starting my 3rd year in animation and I had a couple questions if you wouldn't mind... Is the cleanup made from frame-by-frame animation or tweening? I couldn't see any tween motions in the timeline, so I'm really curious how you got the "lineart" to move so smoothly
Probably weak PC? Or there are so much lines intersecting that it can't process it / there is a lack of RAM to process it You can "break" Harmony with this if you overdo and have a lot of lines on top of each other, program won't be able to do this properly because it's not supposed to process a lot of "sketchy" lines if that's the case
Hey so I have a question. How do you get the colors say like gradients on characters, to stay in that same area in the character while they’re moving still?
@@jadeestrada8727 it's simple, there is a gradient fill colour, and there's also a tool that helps in case gradient needs to be moved, otherwise it stays in place by default
What softwares progress this vector and point approach? I currently use my iPad procreate but it’s getting annoying to a point where yea it SEVERLY impacts workflow so I need to switch to this. I also have a very good custom new computer, what do you use and what are other similar programs? Ive wondered if you could do this in programs like maya and blender while still keeping it 2D. I have all adobe programs but haven’t used one yet. Tell me everything- I’m aspiring to start in industry standard practices for 2025.
@@ranciid any software that has a bezier curve tool, but it still functions differently, Clip Studio is different from Harmony or Blender for example, you just have to try it out and see how it's different. I used an ok PC, but my 2012 laptop still can pull most things off (except for heavy render). I'm currently learning how to do 2d animation in Blender and the principle how software analyzes vector information is similar to Harmony, however it does take a bit of a toll on a weak machine 😔 I wouldn't recommend photoshop for animation for weak pc too, it eats a lot of memory & there are already a ton of programs that do it better anyway.
I use Toon Boom Harmony 21 and 22 Premium!
I feel like I answered most frequently asked questions, so I won't be replying a lot
Which version?
@@dinoreina 21 and 22 premium
Broo
why do you use both versions tho? xD
@@Carmiineh hard to constantly pay for license, I switch to trials and back
i wouldnt be on the cleanup team if not for your cleanup timelapses!! you're a godsend lol
... wait, really?? i'm glad that it helped you :D
I love your fan animations . They are soo cool
@thelivingzombie8403 I think zan works on the official Heluva boss animations 😅 don't take my word for it tho, I'm not 100% sure.
@@TheGstaeta I know she is
@@TheGstaetathey are referring to the fan animations on their channel
this all reminds me of those old MS paint base edits where people would draw exactly like this, using the line tools to create lineart. feels really nostalgic now that i've been a digital artist for over half a decade.
SO TRUE
Ahhhh *hair turns gray* 2006-2009 deviantart era.....
@@emptyvoid_ guh- what's happening to me?!
*my body slowly morphs into one of those 2000s emo hair characters*
@@Sappysappster i wish that were me
I wonder how it felt, Unfortunately, I wasn't there 😞.
Me:Sees this
Me after watching video: I understood that animators and writers we're on strike, but by watching this I got a whole new angle as to how difficult animation is and that animators really need to get paid more!
This is not just drawing, it's an insane proces....
Animators are not currently on strike, only SAG-AFTRA (actors) and the WGA (writers) are on strike! The Animation Guild’s contract ends next year. :]
But I’m glad it gave you a new perspective nonetheless!!!
@@wolfieolfiesorry to bother but what does it mean that their contract ends next year?
@@GalaxColor A union contract is a set of terms and conditions the company/employer and the union agreed upon. Contracts generally last around 3 years, and are negotiated again after it ends. Meaning, when the Animation Guild’s contract ends, that’s when they’ll negotiate with their employers, and if they don’t agree, there’s a chance they may strike. Hope this makes sense 👍
@@wolfieolfie yes, thank you so much! It would be good for them to strike
I'm confused, What does strike mean in terms of Animations? Looking it up on Google is not showing it.
I’m a second year animation student and never thought of cleaning up by bending straight lines, I think I’m gonna give it a shot soon. Thanks for the idea, this video is so helpful!
It's called "Vector art". It's very good to know the different ways you can create digital art to broaden your resume.
"hey bli- OH PISS ON A"
Actually I think this is when luna say "A massive B-" possibly?
@@Starvazeno.
@@Weedzyproo ok-
if you are drawing the lines manually, the simplify tool is a life saver for cutting down on the number of points and getting a smooth line
Funny enough, after asking my animator boyfriend why Cotton Candy is good, he wondered if there was a breakdown video. And then I saw this was posted 3 minutes after I shared the link with him xD. Good job!
Please do more of these cleanup time lapses they’re so cool
I’ll try, thank you
I have laptop now, so it has become a bit harder :0 also, I have another one about Clip Studio if you’re interested :D
The way I gasped so loud when you said you drew with a freaking mouse. You are an absolutely mad lad, thats amazing bro 😭
That's how it was before the touch pads! It's how we learned :) I am 30. I wonder if they are around the same age as me.
Vector lines are far easier to do with a mouse cause you can control the nodes and make precise lines easier. It's actually WAY more tedious to do vector art with a pen and manually doing line art is a fallacy. It's just not efficient to do it that way because some idiot artists on youtube tell you that's the way (and spam the undo key). When you're on a time budget, you don't have time to use the UNDO key 100 times to get the perfect stroke. that's as bad a habit as not cooking your eggs because "in Japan, the eggs are healthy for you when they're uncooked". You're not in Japan and salmonella is a real problem.
@@MarioMastar okay i just tried this YOU WERENT KIDDING BRO
actually such a life saver
NOW I GET IT HOW PEOPLE MAKE SÚCH CLEAN ANIMATIONS. I WAS SO CURIOUS
*patiently waits for procreate dreams*
Yeah, Vector lines. mathematcially generated strokes using nodes and points. No one seriously hand draws line art cause you can't reuse the strokes for future frames, an unsteady hand means redoing the line over and over, and it's a MASSIVE waste of time with no progress. You'll see it a lot on youtube videos, but as they say, "you wouldn't listen to a doctor who's still in high school, so why would you listen to an artist who's more worried about how you make the piece than what the final piece is?"
@ i made that comment a year ago man and trust me now i had finally had my fair share of vector lines and even tho i only sketch animations for now im going to be using vector lines for clean animation
Thank you for sharing this! I just started uni as an animation major and seeing this really motivates me to keep presuing my degree.
You got this!
Good luck:) going to uni in 4 yrs and I plan to major in animating, how is it?
@@TamWam_ I know this is a year late, but I saw this again so I decided to pitch in.
I'm 1 1/2 years in, and I don't go do a animation specific school like Scad or Ringling. I go to a a big university with the best animation program in my state. This uni has almost every major you can think of btw.
Sole Animation schools allow you to pick more specific majors, while I'm only able to take a general animation major. So I need to learn all kinds of animation, such as hand drawn 2D, 2D rigs and puppeting, 3D, VFX, motion graphics, etc. You also have to take preproduction (bodies in motion) and a photography class.
However this general uni is WAYYYY cheaper then even the cheapest animation schools, and you're getting the same education. It's just you can't major in a spefifc kind of animation, like 2D for example.
I went to a community college first and got my Assioates of arts there. So I actually have an advantage compared to my peers, I'm definitely more towards the top in the 2D department. But in others like motion graphics I'm average, and I don't want to talk about my 3D stuff haha.
My major warning is that if you aren't into 3D work, and you're going to a school that's also generalized like mine, teach yourself how to make 3D art NOW. The first thing we were told in my intro to 3D class is over HALF the students change their major, fail, or straight up drop out/quit because of how hard the learning curve is compared to 2D. And it ended up being true. Over half my class was gone by the end of the semester I managed to make it, but I struggled. Got a B, but a C is required to pass lab classes.
Ive heard actual animation spefic schools promote a very, very unhealthy work ethic, so that's another pro of foing to a general uni that has animation as a major.
Also, if the school has a SIGGRAPH club, JOIN. IT. It's hard to explain it here so I'd recommend googling it.
Final thing, since my school doesn't require a pre made portfolio to get accepted, we have a thing called "candidacy," which is a huge deal at my school. Halfway through your 4 years, you have to apply for it. You basically get interviewed by the highest of the higher ups in the animation department, and determine if you're going to make it in the industry. If you fail this, you get one other shot, fail again, you get kicked out of the major. It's brutal and I have to apply for it next semester this Spring sooo... Im praying here lmao.
Sorry if this is scary at all, but I'm having a very good time at school and I'd say keep pushing and go for your dreams!
@StainedGlassLamp tysm for the detailed reply, I'm saving this for later lol, I do appreciate the advice sm :) I'll still try to chase my goal, even if I dont up getting the major
thank you for posting this! i naively had no idea what a clean-up artist is, since im not truly deeply into art. i never knew how much hard work and patience went into it!! awesome job!!
It's not something you'd normally knew about even if you were deeply into it. I'd like to break the stereotype that rough animators do everything or do the most of the work, in reality, it's just a half.
I have no idea why, but there isn't enough information about cleanup animation. I wanna change that
I'm a first year animation student and videos like these are really helpful and appreciated, especially because my school doesn't really teach any software. I'm also aspiring to be an intern for spindlehorse! Working on my portfolio
Damn this must’ve taken forever
it felt like forever yes
H- How... That's impressive! I still find it interesting to watch people draw and animate, animate things like this! Also watching the progress of the episode is interesting too! Keep up your work!
I want to ask a question to a professional animator, like you; especially on working on helluva Boss + using Toonboom....how Long does it take you to animate a segment of animation (persay 10 - 20 seconds)? I get complexity...but in general??😮
I hope to someday work for real!
Also Lovely work your partaking into creating this gorgeous cartoon and for the team!!!!!❤❤❤
10 seconds is a lot, 20 is huge. So it'd take me 2 weeks at least. More realistic is having 5 seconds per week if you're asking about work that gives you money.
Thank you and good luck!
@@emptyvoid_ thank you very much!!! Thats good info to know!
@@emptyvoid_ as someone from the industry, that sound really reasonable
I'm an aspiring animator and this inspires me :) I'm doing GCSE art but plan to major in animation and I'll probably start an indie project or work for one!
damn that looks like it takes forever, good work love this series.
It does take forever every time….
Damn... Animating must be hell especially with really detailed characters
This is so cool! As someone interested in going into a career in animation but cannot for the life of me actually draw action, it's so cool to see alternative career options that are still in the same field of work. Cleanup animation looks like a time-consuming undertaking, but it's also so satisfying to see the finished result, and I imagine that it's even more satisfying after being the one doing the work! This was so cool to see, and I definitely enjoyed being able to see the process. Great job! This looks really good!
Yeah. I'm a trackpad user for clean-up. Thank you for showing real-time. I've been really cucked-up on my working speed thinking maybe I'm way too slow. But IRL time you showed made me realise I'd gained some unrealistic expectations from too many timelapsed videos.
@@anonymousme3571 It's a normal speed, yeah! Being in a hurry never helps with stuff like that
@@emptyvoid_ roughly how long would you take for the clean-up of a 20-second scene (assuming the complexity of the scene is roughly the same as any typical helluva boss episode)? I'll take that as my goal for now :3
@@anonymousme3571 oh 20s is a loooong scene, I'd stop at 10s tbh! But if I had to complete it... 2 weeks at very least if we're talking about both line and colour, but it also depends for how long can you stare at the screen, I can't work for more than 6 hours per day nowadays
@@emptyvoid_ oh- so fair. Feeling age hit is crazy :') but thank you for the benchmark!! Noted on 10s being a long scene, too 🤔
@anonymousme3571 at some point you start feeling your joints or even muscles ache from hypodynamia and also start prioritising your health above career or hobbies, I'd rather take a walk or sleep than draw/work like crazy (unless I absolutely FEEL like it)
I LOVE seeing stuff like this, but I could never do this. I would either have a slight panic attack, or I'd overcomplicate things. I need to figure out a way to stop drawing with 23 layers, 15 of which are invisible. lol
Keep up the great work you guys!
HAH! The team did an absolutely amazing job and I love how loona called blitzø dad!
Thank you so much for your work, its just amazing to see how lines become Loona, and it reminds how hard it is to draw an animation. Just awesome! ❤
I do animation myself and this shows how difficult it can be 😭
I genuinely appreciate your insight into the use of vector brush contrasted with linetool, I've been using both but enjoy the linework via brush more, but ultimately the linetool is better because easier to work with later. You context for decisions in your process is priceless, thank you so much for this video, what a blessing
0:29 i can't escape the jojo references
REAL😭🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼😭
I THOUGHT Y’ALL JUST USED A NORMAL BRUSH BUT ITS VECTORS ???
Thanks for sharing it and showing the real time speed ! That is really interesting. Nice job by the way =D
This makes the animation process look so much less complicated. If only I had a powerful monitor or the newest one, I’d be animating my ass off. 😂
If your screen doesn't strain your eyes, then you're good to go :D
Can i ask how do you make the animation look solid? Like how do you make the character proportion looks the same in every frame?
Solid drawing skills - there's probably some info on that, it's an essential skill imo
We usually pair every frame with the character design. That is why character has to be drawn front, side, and any angle in character's sheet if needed. If the dynamic action animation, keyposes of each movement must strictly look same, then the inbetween usually not as much details-it is fine.
The point is the character sheet is your foundation. And yes solid drawing also the point to keep quality better.
I love how clean the show's animation is. Thank you for all your work
I was wondering how they made the line art so smooth, this is fascinating
Such a welcoming video, I'm a intermediate animator and never really worked with line-art like this. I love the final product!
Wait wait wait, you mean to tell me cleanup artist dont use their perfect strokes to clean, instead they use vector lines? That relieving and quite disappointing at the same time, great video! Im glad to see the process on this kind of stuff on a production for a series!
Massive respect for you. I would not be able to that even if i knew how to, I would literally go insane.
Your work had a huge impact on me. Thank you!
This made me think a lot about just how different cleanup art really is from the rough animation.
wow this is so cool it looks so authentic✨️
I wish I can animate like this, the whole team that animates the episodes puts so much effort into it
This was actually helpful because I am trying to make animations independent from a studio so now I sort of understand the process. Also it was helpful to show that clean up is better with mouse due to making lines with less points.
You made me want to learn how to animate professionaly
Wow, I didn't know this is how it's made, really cool!!
I can imagine how much hard work it is for the sake of a few shots.
As someone who really wants to get into professional animation but is REALLY scared of it, what do you recommend I start off with when trying to get into the professional scene? :0
I would advise not to be scared first of all. You'd need a portfolio to get any job like this - so the next step is to make one :0
This was soo cool to see and learn. I don't draw, but I love seeing and understanding the process of animation
... i learned something today.
Thats pretty good
this motivates me to learn toonboom i am sick of not being able to work with proper vector lines LOOKING AT YOU CSPEX GUHHH
I didn't realize that clean up did so much work. You might as well be ink and paint as well as cleanup.
This is weirdly satisfying to watch
so you worked on that gem of a scene
6:18 well that’s a strange spot to zoom in
I love this video so much It really helped me get motivated to animate more !!
I have a question, what toon boom pen or preset did you use to have the lines so straight and solid ?
Probably "fixed thickness" or others, but for more clean line majority used fixed thickness, at least that's what I use T T
This is actually super similar to how I do cleanup in Adobe Animate, so as someone who plans on learning ToonBoom this was really good to see 🤣
Thank you for sharing this video! It's really hard to find a video were people show their progress when animating something for a series, I'm really curious about the process because I would like to enter in the industry someday. I'm learning on my own on how to use Toon Boom with some tutorials and your video is a really good experience on how it is done :D
Omggggggg thank u for explaining every process !! I plan to use toonboom in the future, but my godddd do i not know shit about all the buttons and secret cheats and stuff to make life easier. Explaining how to do the colouring especially is just, MUAH
The way they do lines is so interesting to me
This is oddly satisfying
1:29 ohmagad Vika doesn't press Y to color!!
yes because i press X to win
This was fascinating to watch ❤️
Yeah, I see where you all are rewatching most. Sickos.
I guess luckily for you, Dennis is probably still available.
You're telling me my skills with the Microsoft Paint curve line tool can be put to use?
absolutely yes
i always thought artists would draw curves from scratch, good thing to know that curving a straight line just works better instead. and man i should really practice using toon boom harmony more
also, mega based mouse user. i'd always prefer being able to see my cursor on the screen and where the lines start and end.
I’ve wanted todo animation since I first saw vivziepop years ago. Some ppl find these videos to seem stressful and tedious and they probably are but omg would I kill to do this as a job
5:44 "ofcoruse you would be a Dennis! }:
keep in mind, this is the speed of cleaning up animation by computer. By hand, this would be done with a crew of 10 or more people that work day in and out. Computers are a godsend on animation
@@andmos1001 yes, it's very painful to do by hand, especially on paper...
wow looks like a pretty grinding work!! Huge respect for the dedication, how many frames per day did you have to make?
yea very grinding, usually I can't do more than 1-2 sec per day, no matter how much I have to do
@emptyvoid_ OMG YOU RESPONDED SO QUICKLY?? 🙏😭💛 TYSM and jesus thats actually quite a lot, especially cause of how well made the whole animation is, dont be too humble on yourself! :3
4:45 now that answerw my question on how they divide it into parts but still are able to color it
:D
THATS SO AMAZING, How long does this all take to do????
this shot took me less than a week if I remember correctly
Now I understand toonboom even more . Ive been using tooboom only for 2 months now . Im still new with all of the tools sonce i rarely use animation program that is vector foward. Honestly, its challenging
@@RandomPerson-lw7zm I feel you, any time I have to learn new programs, I feel like a toddler learning how to walk
@emptyvoid_ honestly! Good thing I figured it out 😭. My animation production finally! And I wish to see more content like this from you ❤️❤️ I love seeing animation progress so much , it helped me improve alot
Yeah, having drawn in every possible way on the computer, Vector art is FAR easier to do with a mouse than with a pen. You can draw the line art with a pen but you really don't want to waste more time doing the whole "stroke/undo/stroke/undo" thing that amateur digital artists "learn" to do cause time is money and not making progress with every stroke is a complete waste of time as you have no evidence to show for it. Just better to be slightly slower and do vectors. This isn't the kind of place where an ego is worth the hours it takes to do one perfect frame. Plus you can reuse Vector lines in future frames by just shifting them instead of having to redo every line manually. Those time saving tricks are what makes these episodes take weeks to do instead of months.
Major kudos showcasing what it looks like to be a professional line artist. A lot of people take digital art and animation for granted cause we only see the final result, but no one sees the hours/days/WEEKS/MONTHS it takes to have to do this...for EVERY frame of a 22 minute animation, let alone at 24 frames per SECOND, it adds up to doing this kind of work for over 4000 images, and that's just the line art, let alone the coloring, the sketching, the coreography, etc. Very underappreciated.
Holy crap this video is super helpful and inspiring! I know ppl have already asked questions and I’m sorry to add one, if you wouldn’t mind answering I’d be super greatful!
What devices do you use in this? I know u mentioned a Wacom tablet. And also- would you possibly be able to do this on something like procreate? I’m working on my animation skills! Thanks for your time, you’re amazing!
Device doesn’t matter in my opinion, I’ve been using UGEE screen tablet for this video, then I moved and had to switch back to my old Wacom intuos. Now Huion sent me their Kamvas 13, so it’s just a matter of comfort
You can do rough animation anywhere you like, including just paper, but for cleanup animation it depends on the software requirements. In this case it’s possible to achieve the necessary result only in Harmony
@@emptyvoid_ Thank you so much for the help! I hope you have a great day! :D
this is so cool even tho i dunno wuts helluva boss
vivzie giving loonas dress a gradient feels insanely evil 🙏🙏
This gave me Adobe illustrator pen tool war flashbacks
I never thought about using different colored line art
Though I have large screen display pen, I'm still using lineart tool for cleanup since it has consistency weight and easy to control. If you use Clip Studio Paint, doing cleanup lineart in Vector Layer is a huge help as the lines are controllable, so the quality remains still. My standard studio is mostly 3.0, but rn I'm working on kid animation so the line weight must be 6.0-12.0 depending on hpw close/far character from camera.
i noticed that you do clean up on seperate files. Is that necessary for clean up or you can just do cleanups on just one animation layer?
People call me mad for using a mouse too.... but it's more accurate.
Awesome!
heey may I ask you something
Did you just deleted the blue lines here? 8:07
I don't know how to make this kind of details faster...
Select by color > apply to all frames > hit delete :D
@@emptyvoid_ oh thank you so much!! I love your content btw
I would like to know what program was used to do the cleanup °-°
But, it's interesting saw this video and know how the cleanup make! ^^
6:28 LOL 🤣
Now I wonder, what chair do you use, or what do you recommend when sitting at a desk for long periods of time? I struggle just playing games for a few hours, even moreso when drawing
Omg frfr. Tag me if they answer
tbh the one that doesn't hurt my back; i'm small and all chairs are too big for me, I still have to sacrifice some of my comfort
As vivzie's background artist it does take a lot of patience and skills. I do draw on mouse
what animation software is this
Amazing work!!! I'm currently starting my 3rd year in animation and I had a couple questions if you wouldn't mind...
Is the cleanup made from frame-by-frame animation or tweening? I couldn't see any tween motions in the timeline, so I'm really curious how you got the "lineart" to move so smoothly
usually I don't use tweening unless there's no other way, but I wouldn't say it's a prohibited thing to do
So, what app use viv?
toonboom
Amazing
The clean up looks simple, but by curiosity, how is it exactly?
the key word - "looks"
average shot like this takes me 3-7 days on average
@@emptyvoid_How long do you work each day and what brush are you using here? Love your work so much!! 💖
@@Finnerroo it's not a brush but a pencil tool, just an average smooth vector line. I work 4-12 hours every day and it's different every time.
@@emptyvoid_ wow, that really shows how long an average shot will take! Thank you so much for replying
Cleanup with a mouse?!- no no, I've been there... viruses don't care if that shot is due today or on Monday. 😂
You can save your wrist by switching to tablet, doing taps on the tablet instead of mouse clicks...
What program are u using ? 😮
What app do you use, if i may ask?
see pinned message
what program is this
toonboom
Question, how long does it take ro make a 1sec clip?
@@TheZixOriginal 2-3 days
@emptyvoid_ thats crazy! I wanted to start animating but right now i dont have that much time on me...
6:44 what do I do if it crashes everytime I try it
Probably weak PC? Or there are so much lines intersecting that it can't process it / there is a lack of RAM to process it
You can "break" Harmony with this if you overdo and have a lot of lines on top of each other, program won't be able to do this properly because it's not supposed to process a lot of "sketchy" lines if that's the case
I would like to draw like this, I hope to be an animator
Hey so I have a question. How do you get the colors say like gradients on characters, to stay in that same area in the character while they’re moving still?
@@jadeestrada8727 it's simple, there is a gradient fill colour, and there's also a tool that helps in case gradient needs to be moved, otherwise it stays in place by default
What softwares progress this vector and point approach? I currently use my iPad procreate but it’s getting annoying to a point where yea it SEVERLY impacts workflow so I need to switch to this. I also have a very good custom new computer, what do you use and what are other similar programs? Ive wondered if you could do this in programs like maya and blender while still keeping it 2D. I have all adobe programs but haven’t used one yet. Tell me everything- I’m aspiring to start in industry standard practices for 2025.
@@ranciid any software that has a bezier curve tool, but it still functions differently, Clip Studio is different from Harmony or Blender for example, you just have to try it out and see how it's different. I used an ok PC, but my 2012 laptop still can pull most things off (except for heavy render). I'm currently learning how to do 2d animation in Blender and the principle how software analyzes vector information is similar to Harmony, however it does take a bit of a toll on a weak machine 😔 I wouldn't recommend photoshop for animation for weak pc too, it eats a lot of memory & there are already a ton of programs that do it better anyway.
i feel so bad for this person lmao the complex designs of this show destroy me