Great videos! I just picked up my 470 last week and can’t wait for spring! I think you should do a video showing your motor placement, jet foot alignment in relation to the transom and tunnel. Might help us newbies with initial ball park set up. Keep the videos coming! You are part of the reason I got this boat! Thanks
Hey! Thanks for the tour of the boat, I've been watching your vids for a while and learning a bit here and there while thinking about maybe building a boat of my own one day. It's nice to get to see what goes into a build like that. I gotta say though, even if I built a dream jetboat I don't think I could ever beat some of those vistas you've got over there in NZ, some of the most beautiful landscapes in the entire world, I reckon.
Howdy Goat, I'm not sure comparing inflatable boats to alloy is fair. They are two very different animals. Low top speed, crap in the wind, handles like a bus. I like them but I also love my 3.1 jetboat. Its just what suits you at the time. Great vid, thanks.
Excellent video very informative I always thought I would get a tinny. but I am certainly changing my mind. And I’m impressed with the seat adaption cheers Bb🐄
Cooler air is more dense and the density changes inside the hull as well. In cooler wind the hull will get blown around more. Wind turbines work better in cooler air as well. Great stuff and keep the videos coming!!!!!!!!!!!
Regarding the wind problem - the boat in video is not loaded. This boat can easily take extra 700-800 kilo of useful load with a 50hp outboard. Under full load shallow water capabilities dont suffer much, speed takes a hit from around 50 to 30 km/h.
just my humble opinion as port captain of a jet boat tourist company that runs glacial rivers approx 4.5-6 hrs daily on dual yamaha 150/115 jet drives our maintenance is much different than a prop lower unit. 1. pre season. lower unit removed, water pump rebuild, reverse gate gets a rebuild as well. pivot pins, eccentric, all bushings, sleeves, bumpers. reinstall unit and correctly shim impeller before inspecting boot and install. This size boat more than likely has no reverse gate because its so light. the glacial silt is so hard on the water pumps that we actually have to rebuild them mid season or at least inspect them (usually if were that far if they dont need ,they will so we just do it since were there). as the cones wear the tolerances between the impeller and cone increase and power is noticeably lost. Shimming is a relatively easy process of removing the boot or shoe, then cone. inspect and if there have been too many rocks go through because no matter what anybody says if you go through shallows you WILL suck rocks. you can actually hear the difference between silt and small rocks as they/it passes through. also, carry a giant flathead to pry out the rocks the get wedged in the grate. if one rock gets stuck you have a power loss.. adjust the shims and slip a feeler gauge between impeller and cone. if its too tight it will lock up at start and you will have to do it again and move 1 shim. last thing is a grease gun. there is a zurk on the lower unit that feed grease into the main shaft bearing. HIGHLY recommended to shoot it full before a days use. when you do you will see the old stuff with a high water content work its way out. all i all, do it twice and you're an expert, not rocket surgery . hope all this is informative check it th-cam.com/video/SFLF7G1i_Bk/w-d-xo.html old youtube doesn't show but we touch bottom regularly. all the footage is at high water
Great videos mate! Enjoy your work. My two boxes are due to arrive next week! Just wondering if you still have measurements/drawings for your trailer? Need to whip one up and yours looks very user friendly. Looking forward to your next mission 👌🏻
Yes, great video. I'm a jet boater from Canada and am looking for a light weight alternative to tow on holidays. I've had 6 river boats over the years and am familiar with having to pound out dents as you show in your video, my main concern is how resistant the bottom of the boat is to getting cut from rocks? Sliding over rocks with a fabric bottom makes me very nervous. How did you pick this boat vs any other inflatables?
This boat was designed as a jet boat with a jet outboard to do this sort of bouncing around all day, its got the xtra layer of polyurathne that no other boats have on the bottom. After all the time Ive had it there is a couple of scuff marks on the bottom of it and thats it.99% of the rocks in the river are worn smooth with no sharp edges, it the rocks on the side of the river banks that are the sharp ones.I wasnt looking for an inflatable as I have been jetboating for years, however I stumbled across this video th-cam.com/video/RFCDQHvJcYA/w-d-xo.html and saw how they would just repetedly hammer up rapids and around rocks all day long with no damage , and to find there was an agent for them in the country that was it , sold the jetboat and havent looked back , for the boating that I can now do its a much better option
I use the Solar 470 SJT for my job, and it seems to handle wind very well, but then again, it is always loaded. I wonder if it is the difference in hull design or the weight that makes the difference. The supplier says to keep the motor supported while trailered because it wasn't designed to support the motor while trailered, but my employer doesn't care to do so. I want to get one for myself and am torn between the standard Strela and the SJT. I want to use both prop and jet with a jack plate. I take 1,000 mile trips up and down the Yukon River, so prop is desired for that. Also, the Yukon River can have huge white caps with high frequency. I think the standard Strela will be great for that. The SJT is very capable in shallow water, but that Strela looks like it is just as capable. The manufacturer says that the SJT is more capable in shallow water, but I'm starting to question that logic. The manufacturer says that both can use prop/jet combo. I was originally considering the SJT, but I'm not so sure, anymore.
Great video. I have the Strela 450 and just got my hands on the same 2 stroke Tohatsu as you. I have one question. I see you have the ability of your motor tilting way up when you hit a rock and then dropping right back down. On mine, there seems to be a "shallow water position" where it catches when you lift it up and locks in about half way, not allowing it to drop back down. Since our motors look like the exact same models, Im wondering if you had this same problem and figured a way around it? Or did yours not have this shallow water lock?
mine has a lever that says lock on it, if its down the motor stays locked in place,however I leave the locked lever up and the motor can jump around as much as it needs
Thanks for the video! having recently had a parachute fail and i hit the deck pretty hard, that ended that hobbie. Now im nearly recovered im looking for a new hobbie the inflatable jet boat looks so good, your videos are the best. im in NZ , i was wonder about getting a 420 or a 470 could you please share your thoughts ? im after a quick and nibble would that mean 420?
every one that I know who started with the 420 has gone to the 470, its not much longer but it is quite a bit wider and will handle the shallows /raipids better
Phenomenal as always Goat! I'm busy reinforcing the bottom of my aluminium jonboat I use for gold mining on my channel and can definitely see the advantages to the inflatable boat! If all I have is aluminium for now, is plastic the only way to go for hull protection, or would a non slip paint do anything at all to help?
plastic on the bottom is the best option 10-18mm thick, its like putting another layer of armour on the bottom and will brace the hull up and its permanent , the non slip paint just wears off all the time
never heard of that brand at all,unless its been designed to be a jet boat with a tunnel in the back of it to feed water into the outboard jet , it wont do the shallow water - its just a normal boat
awesome vid once again. So how much ist it worth roughly and how long is it and how short could it be or what is the shortest length it can be purchased in to support the same power?
Gday mate! I’m looking at buying one of these in the next few weeks! Have you had any issues with the glued seams? I understand they are glued rather than welded.
Havent had any problems at all with any of the seams or any part of the boat being faulty or poorly made.I have had it for over two years now, its been the first boat that I've owned that I have never had to work on, it doesent dent,break engine mounts or need constant maintance, all I do is top up the air before i go out as I let it down a bit when its sitting in the shed, highly recommend them to anyone
Love your videos man! My 470 comes in next month! I’m stoked to say the least. Where did you get your cover? I need one and was going to have to one custom built if I can’t find one for it
Hi goat I have been waiting for this vid since you got it. Two questions hows it like with the impeller for the cooling with it jumping out the water have you needed to replace water pump? And how does the jet impeller handle it? Cheers
havnt noticed any change of the cooling when its bouncing out of the water, its only out for a fraction of a second, havent had to look at the water pump. The impellers just like new, due to the angle of the foot it doesnt seen to suck up the stones like a jetboat does
@@johnflys1 picked it up this week. Frozen up here in alaska. My buddy has one and it’s incredible, it’s why I sold mine. Me and another friend both picked them up.
no probblems with the water pump clogging up, has not happened yet. The impellers just like new, due to the angle of the foot it doesnt seen to suck up the stones like a jetboat does, no stator in these units to repair, its complety different than a jetski /jetboat pump . If you look at the jet outboard website ,there are some good diagrams to see how it all works outboardjets.com/
as a port captain of a jet boat tourist company that runs glacial rivers approx 4.5-6 hrs daily on dual yamaha 150/115, our maintenance is much different than a prop lower unit. 1. pre season. lower unit removed, water pump rebuild, reverse gate gets a rebuild as well. pivot pins, eccentric, all bushings, sleeves, bumpers. reinstall unit and correctly shim impeller before inspecting boot and install. the glacial silt is so hard on the water pumps that we actually have to rebuild them mid season or at least inspect them (usually if were that far if they dont need ,they will so we just do it since were there). as the cones wear the tolerances between the impeller and cone increase and power is noticeably lost. Shimming is a relatively easy process of removing the boot or shoe, then cone. inspect and if there have been too many rocks go through...replace. adjust the shims and check with a feeler guage. if its too tight it will lock up at start and you will have to do it again and move 1 shim. all i all, do it twice and uour an expert, not rocket surgery . hope all this is informative
Havnt had to touch the impeller since ive had it , the shoe hasnt broken/split/damaged yet, the plastic appears to be unbreakable. Due to the angle of the shoe behind the boat its only the very back of it - the last 30mm -that catchs on the rocks.The impellers survived due to the angle of the shoe and the motor doesnt have enough power to vaccum up the stones into the pump
Would it be worthwhile fitting a decent paper air filter to the car/engine cover inlets? Gravel road dust is not a good thing inside your engine.... Possibly for transport only?
Great videos! I just picked up my 470 last week and can’t wait for spring! I think you should do a video showing your motor placement, jet foot alignment in relation to the transom and tunnel. Might help us newbies with initial ball park set up. Keep the videos coming! You are part of the reason I got this boat! Thanks
I went from green to purple with envy. What a beautiful place you have access to.
Picking up my Solar 500 in July. Dropping a 60/40 Honda Jet on the back. Can't wait to put it in the water! Thanks for posting the review.
picked up my 500 yesterday can't wait to get her in the water.
Hey! Thanks for the tour of the boat, I've been watching your vids for a while and learning a bit here and there while thinking about maybe building a boat of my own one day. It's nice to get to see what goes into a build like that. I gotta say though, even if I built a dream jetboat I don't think I could ever beat some of those vistas you've got over there in NZ, some of the most beautiful landscapes in the entire world, I reckon.
Howdy Goat, I'm not sure comparing inflatable boats to alloy is fair. They are two very different animals. Low top speed, crap in the wind, handles like a bus. I like them but I also love my 3.1 jetboat. Its just what suits you at the time. Great vid, thanks.
Strela 470 + engine 50 hp is best solution to get anywhere! 👍
Very good review!
Picked up my 470 today! So excited to take it out moose hunting soon. Thanks for posting these videos
Thank you for goin out and showing what this boat can do sir🍺🍺
Excellent video very informative I always thought I would get a tinny. but I am certainly changing my mind. And I’m impressed with the seat adaption cheers Bb🐄
Thanks goat I gotta have one. The best video by far on inflatables and jets.
Cooler air is more dense and the density changes inside the hull as well. In cooler wind the hull will get blown around more. Wind turbines work better in cooler air as well. Great stuff and keep the videos coming!!!!!!!!!!!
Very interesting and for so much Psi make huge different and going out on no winding day!
Great vid. I wish we could buy 2 stroke 50 hp jet outboaRds here in canada.
I have one on order, can't wait for it to get here. Thanks for the review, great stuff!
Great review. Good as gold. Thanks for sharing.
Brilliant video! Very informative. Thanks!
Thanks Goat, as always your insight is always a tremendous help.
Regarding the wind problem - the boat in video is not loaded. This boat can easily take extra 700-800 kilo of useful load with a 50hp outboard. Under full load shallow water capabilities dont suffer much, speed takes a hit from around 50 to 30 km/h.
best review period
Looks like such an awesome rig
just my humble opinion
as port captain of a jet boat tourist company that runs glacial rivers approx 4.5-6 hrs daily on dual yamaha 150/115 jet drives our maintenance is much different than a prop lower unit. 1. pre season. lower unit removed, water pump rebuild, reverse gate gets a rebuild as well. pivot pins, eccentric, all bushings, sleeves, bumpers. reinstall unit and correctly shim impeller before inspecting boot and install. This size boat more than likely has no reverse gate because its so light. the glacial silt is so hard on the water pumps that we actually have to rebuild them mid season or at least inspect them (usually if were that far if they dont need ,they will so we just do it since were there). as the cones wear the tolerances between the impeller and cone increase and power is noticeably lost. Shimming is a relatively easy process of removing the boot or shoe, then cone. inspect and if there have been too many rocks go through because no matter what anybody says if you go through shallows you WILL suck rocks. you can actually hear the difference between silt and small rocks as they/it passes through. also, carry a giant flathead to pry out the rocks the get wedged in the grate. if one rock gets stuck you have a power loss.. adjust the shims and slip a feeler gauge between impeller and cone. if its too tight it will lock up at start and you will have to do it again and move 1 shim. last thing is a grease gun. there is a zurk on the lower unit that feed grease into the main shaft bearing. HIGHLY recommended to shoot it full before a days use. when you do you will see the old stuff with a high water content work its way out. all i all, do it twice and you're an expert, not rocket surgery . hope all this is informative
check it
th-cam.com/video/SFLF7G1i_Bk/w-d-xo.html
old youtube
doesn't show but we touch bottom regularly. all the footage is at high water
Never knew outboard jets existed. Confused the hell out of me for a while haha..
Great videos mate! Enjoy your work. My two boxes are due to arrive next week! Just wondering if you still have measurements/drawings for your trailer? Need to whip one up and yours looks very user friendly. Looking forward to your next mission 👌🏻
Just baught one pick it up tommrow!
Great video, I was wanting a better look at one… great job 👍
Yes, great video. I'm a jet boater from Canada and am looking for a light weight alternative to tow on holidays. I've had 6 river boats over the years and am familiar with having to pound out dents as you show in your video, my main concern is how resistant the bottom of the boat is to getting cut from rocks? Sliding over rocks with a fabric bottom makes me very nervous. How did you pick this boat vs any other inflatables?
This boat was designed as a jet boat with a jet outboard to do this sort of bouncing around all day, its got the xtra layer of polyurathne that no other boats have on the bottom. After all the time Ive had it there is a couple of scuff marks on the bottom of it and thats it.99% of the rocks in the river are worn smooth with no sharp edges, it the rocks on the side of the river banks that are the sharp ones.I wasnt looking for an inflatable as I have been jetboating for years, however I stumbled across this video th-cam.com/video/RFCDQHvJcYA/w-d-xo.html and saw how they would just repetedly hammer up rapids and around rocks all day long with no damage , and to find there was an agent for them in the country that was it , sold the jetboat and havent looked back , for the boating that I can now do its a much better option
Awesome stuff mate, what a great product. Cheers
Fantastic review. Thanks.
I use the Solar 470 SJT for my job, and it seems to handle wind very well, but then again, it is always loaded. I wonder if it is the difference in hull design or the weight that makes the difference. The supplier says to keep the motor supported while trailered because it wasn't designed to support the motor while trailered, but my employer doesn't care to do so. I want to get one for myself and am torn between the standard Strela and the SJT. I want to use both prop and jet with a jack plate. I take 1,000 mile trips up and down the Yukon River, so prop is desired for that. Also, the Yukon River can have huge white caps with high frequency. I think the standard Strela will be great for that. The SJT is very capable in shallow water, but that Strela looks like it is just as capable. The manufacturer says that the SJT is more capable in shallow water, but I'm starting to question that logic. The manufacturer says that both can use prop/jet combo. I was originally considering the SJT, but I'm not so sure, anymore.
FRICKIN EPIC!
Thanks, l looks amazing
Great video!!
Great video. I have the Strela 450 and just got my hands on the same 2 stroke Tohatsu as you. I have one question. I see you have the ability of your motor tilting way up when you hit a rock and then dropping right back down. On mine, there seems to be a "shallow water position" where it catches when you lift it up and locks in about half way, not allowing it to drop back down. Since our motors look like the exact same models, Im wondering if you had this same problem and figured a way around it? Or did yours not have this shallow water lock?
mine has a lever that says lock on it, if its down the motor stays locked in place,however I leave the locked lever up and the motor can jump around as much as it needs
Thanks for the video! having recently had a parachute fail and i hit the deck pretty hard, that ended that hobbie. Now im nearly recovered im looking for a new hobbie the inflatable jet boat looks so good, your videos are the best. im in NZ , i was wonder about getting a 420 or a 470 could you please share your thoughts ? im after a quick and nibble would that mean 420?
every one that I know who started with the 420 has gone to the 470, its not much longer but it is quite a bit wider and will handle the shallows /raipids better
@goatracing610 nice 🙂 thank you
Phenomenal as always Goat! I'm busy reinforcing the bottom of my aluminium jonboat I use for gold mining on my channel and can definitely see the advantages to the inflatable boat! If all I have is aluminium for now, is plastic the only way to go for hull protection, or would a non slip paint do anything at all to help?
plastic on the bottom is the best option 10-18mm thick, its like putting another layer of armour on the bottom and will brace the hull up and its permanent , the non slip paint just wears off all the time
@@goatracing610 Plastic is definitely the way to go
Hi do you like the outback boat better For shallow water ?
Getting a good deal on a Zodiac 470 military boat. Are you familiar with them do you know of it will run skinny like that?
never heard of that brand at all,unless its been designed to be a jet boat with a tunnel in the back of it to feed water into the outboard jet , it wont do the shallow water - its just a normal boat
awesome vid once again. So how much ist it worth roughly and how long is it and how short could it be or what is the shortest length it can be purchased in to support the same power?
heres all the specs and prices of my boat www.outbackboats.nz/product/44-Solar-470-Strela-50hp-2stroke-Jet-Package
@@goatracing610 thank you my good man
Gday mate! I’m looking at buying one of these in the next few weeks! Have you had any issues with the glued seams? I understand they are glued rather than welded.
Havent had any problems at all with any of the seams or any part of the boat being faulty or poorly made.I have had it for over two years now, its been the first boat that I've owned that I have never had to work on, it doesent dent,break engine mounts or need constant maintance, all I do is top up the air before i go out as I let it down a bit when its sitting in the shed, highly recommend them to anyone
Love your videos man! My 470 comes in next month! I’m stoked to say the least. Where did you get your cover? I need one and was going to have to one custom built if I can’t find one for it
Ask any boat shops about the covers, my one was for a 5m inflatable, all their catalogs should have a listing for them , get one for the motor as well
Do you have the trailer plans? I have the 470 SJ.......Appreciate any help you can provide....Thank you C
What kind of top speeds are you seeing with this setup?
Where did you purchase the motor
Hi goat I have been waiting for this vid since you got it. Two questions hows it like with the impeller for the cooling with it jumping out the water have you needed to replace water pump? And how does the jet impeller handle it? Cheers
havnt noticed any change of the cooling when its bouncing out of the water, its only out for a fraction of a second, havent had to look at the water pump. The impellers just like new, due to the angle of the foot it doesnt seen to suck up the stones like a jetboat does
@@goatracing610 Oh well looks like I'm selling my ally boat cheers man
@@johnflys1 i sold my aluminum jet just picked up a 500
@@aaronglaser any good?
@@johnflys1 picked it up this week. Frozen up here in alaska. My buddy has one and it’s incredible, it’s why I sold mine. Me and another friend both picked them up.
How heavy do you think a guys could load this. I’m thinking primarily hunting or a wife dog and camping gear for a weekend
Ive just had a look on the plate inside the boat, its rated to hold 800kg
Any issues with silt or debris blocking the outboard water pump? how regularly do you have to get the impellor built up/stator vanes sharpened?
no probblems with the water pump clogging up, has not happened yet. The impellers just like new, due to the angle of the foot it doesnt seen to suck up the stones like a jetboat does, no stator in these units to repair, its complety different than a jetski /jetboat pump . If you look at the jet outboard website ,there are some good diagrams to see how it all works outboardjets.com/
as a port captain of a jet boat tourist company that runs glacial rivers approx 4.5-6 hrs daily on dual yamaha 150/115, our maintenance is much different than a prop lower unit. 1. pre season. lower unit removed, water pump rebuild, reverse gate gets a rebuild as well. pivot pins, eccentric, all bushings, sleeves, bumpers. reinstall unit and correctly shim impeller before inspecting boot and install. the glacial silt is so hard on the water pumps that we actually have to rebuild them mid season or at least inspect them (usually if were that far if they dont need ,they will so we just do it since were there). as the cones wear the tolerances between the impeller and cone increase and power is noticeably lost. Shimming is a relatively easy process of removing the boot or shoe, then cone. inspect and if there have been too many rocks go through...replace. adjust the shims and check with a feeler guage. if its too tight it will lock up at start and you will have to do it again and move 1 shim. all i all, do it twice and uour an expert, not rocket surgery . hope all this is informative
What did you use for the attachment on that ryobi pump?
Its the fitting that came with the boat, just adapted to to fit the compresser
whats your impeller an shoe look like after a day of bashing?
Havnt had to touch the impeller since ive had it , the shoe hasnt broken/split/damaged yet, the plastic appears to be unbreakable. Due to the angle of the shoe behind the boat its only the very back of it - the last 30mm -that catchs on the rocks.The impellers survived due to the angle of the shoe and the motor doesnt have enough power to vaccum up the stones into the pump
Still looks like new, its made out of HDPE plastic and is ubreakable
How do you find it not having reverse
Im not used to having reverse, the jetboat never had it either. The reverse bucket hangs 3' lower than the motor, thats why it was taken off
@@goatracing610 great point!!! no need for a reverse gate.. super review BTW
Would it be worthwhile fitting a decent paper air filter to the car/engine cover inlets?
Gravel road dust is not a good thing inside your engine....
Possibly for transport only?
What size motor
50hp tohatsu
@@goatracing610 this video is dope! Thanks for showing us the ropes. I have a seaark mvjt that I love but this looks like so much more fun!
Engines going to break if you hit things on a regular basis.
OMG 😲 Love THIS Video... totally like if we were there