Lot of people are misunderstanding why i said sun was strong in the early game. Let me clarify. If Sun is jungle, he gets his level 4 faster than sidelaners, ao in that little time frame he can be strong. Especially in early game skirmishes when the enemy is still at lvl 2 or 3.
But enemy jungle also lvl 4... , sun is good at late game.. not early. Bad about sun is need alot of mana for his skill and if use damage build he fragile like markman , if use thunderbelt first he farm slower.. and thunderblet normally only hit 40 that is only 55 def each until end game therefore , thunderbelt is quite useless. Sun only good kill lord and turtle fast....
This is a good item if your enemies was soft and easy to kill, but this is a squishy item for sun, it's better if your sun has 2 defence item the core item is thunder belt, but the other defence item would be counted at the enemy for lifestealer heroes, mages, and burst
@@fraxinusdmchu2371Sun Is Easy, But Its The Item That Will Make New Sun Player Confused. Because He Has So Much Build Variation, Different Build Then Different Playstyle
eu server is better until mythic in ph the epic ranks play like warrior but in eu epic ranks play like mythic its weird but then when you get to mythic they play like the mythics who are in epic lol and ive played 100 games in ph server on 300 ping if you are wondering
@@yuandatriogary191Yeah it was pretty OP. Have been trying build and so far thunder belt+endless+demon hunter is the best since you can proc it immediately with E together with clones. Which means if you have 2 clones, each E proc 3 times with item passive. This wukong changes have been great so far.
@@marrymejisoo3413 how was it better when current belt deals more damage, a slow that almost acts like an immobile and a lot better defense while the past belt depends on ur hp and can't even be spam by hero that has long skill cd
İ was top global 1 sun, i always played solo ranked. İ always needed my team to pass early game, and only in mid to late game i could show my gameplay.becouse, if lanes lost, they immediately invade my jungle and i cant do anything in early to mid game without my teams help. For example: my team starts a fight for the creep in water(i forgot the name), my tank or mid lane die, they immediately ambush my jungle and what can i do? No stun, no burst damage etc. Thats why sun always needs a strong team for early game
My rating on 🌞 Jungling:7/10 Pushing:8/10 Baiting:8/10 Escaping:10/10 In Summary Sun is extremely annoying but squishy asf hero he's strong when he has all clones but weak to burst and sustain heroes.. How to counter sun?Use Heroes With Extreme burst or any hero with good CC.. Eudora In Bush(ambush sun when's hes roaming solo) Saber(High Burst) Clint(Good Mobility and Good Stun) Kagura(Ult Can Kill Both Sun and his clones, depends on your skill) Akai(Can stop his clones) Best Build for sun?Semi Attack speed build with Hybrid Defense..why? Coz sun is SQUISHY ASF🌞🙂.. Sun is very good against this junglers; Gusion(Sun Can make gusion useless with his ult) Karina(just exhaust her ult and she useless) And more..
Some people dont know thunder belt verry over power this patch. In the early 1 stac thunder belt is 210 true damage, skill 1 or 2 sun get 110 true damage, skill 4 get 150 true damage.
It's beter sun to have thunderbolt with brute force and dominance ice to be more tanky and deal damage...since sun is too weak now....I recommend two to three defence item for more sustain....or else sun melt too fast comparing to other exp laner
Problem with exp sun is that he can't outburst high aoe lifesteal heroes without full damage build and every high rank meta exp laners are lifesteal heroes
sun is my favorite hero In my opinion sun is better with full damage items, sun is not good for long term battles so you need to hit and run when playing sun. I often get MVP on Honor-glory with Kda 14-2-7
He's good on early when he just reaches level 4, after that he goes back to eternal farming. His kit makes ganking Very easy so when the enemy laner is still level 2, he can easily initiate 2v1 with his own laner and probably get a flicker off or a kill. Then he go back to farming cuz the enemy has outscaled him once again at level 4. Until he starts getting Thunderbelt, he'll start joining team fights again with trying to stack up as much as possible. Them Corrossion scythe and waraxe is the key. He can finally join fights and start carrying against most squishy enemy. The final touch is when he got DHS and Malefic, At this point he can fight any enemy cuz he have a lot of def and M.def from thunderbelt stack, and %health dmg + high penetration.
Endless battle+demon hunter is better. You dont want to wait a long time to stack Axe stacks since your clones doesnt last long(except ult). You dont need corrosion either because your clones can proc thunder passive. Meanwhile endless gives you mana regen on top of movespeed and hybrid vamp which is better than pure spell vamp. Wukong doesnt benefit from spell vamp that much since he have almost no ability dmg. And demon hunter gives you lifesteal + current hp% dmg. All of these PrO pLaYeRs seems to not understand their champ or worse never read skill description. Their macro might be good but their micro and mechanics knowledge is poor. They even build Malefic Roar on Wukong when his passive already gives him 40% armor reduction 😂
I still don’t get why would I build war axe on sun, I feel there’s so many better items like endless battle (gives mana regen + true damage + mov speed + CD) or hunter strike (gives penetration + mov speed + CD), I will use the build but without useless war axe with spellvamp.
As a person from Burmese region i think people from my region would be watching this multiple times Bc sun really is more popular than chou in my region
Yet some top PH global sun players that plays with JG Sun are immortal ranks already, and with plenty of matches and 50-60%+ winrate already... All heroes can work, its just a matter of team composition, team coordination, and the individual player's gameplay.
@@Christian-CTDCits true to some extend, but sun definitely not a good xp laner nowdays nor jungle. He lacking too many things compared to other xp lane or jungle and not fit on the meta badly
When I play solo in NA server , it only takes me 130 games to reach glory but when I play solo in SEA Server it takes me 250+ matches just for glory lol.And in NA server it only takes less than 15 min for a match but my local server usually have 20+ mins for a match and ofc it's a hard game too😂
I actually use sun as roam tank 😂 red roam ft tough boot , thunder belt , burning mask , dominance ice , Athena , last item free slot for immortal/ brute force/ antique cuirass 😂 if you can timing your doppleganger and your attack that emblem echo aoe will double 😂 means your doppleganger also trigger it .. doppleganger also carry all item unique skill like dominance, burning mask, antique cuirass effect, Athena 😂
Khaleed also has potential as tank to counter enemies that has no cc but all burst 😅 just need vengeance and max out skill2 first 😅 then buy oracle and dominance to strengthen skill2 😂 Khaleed durability nerfed right ? Dominance ice also changed 😂 guess to balance who 😂 🤣 that shit reach the "broken" point once
Met a sun with using this strat like weeks ago and he was very good he kept going away so his clone wouldn't give me gold which was very smart but unfortunately he met me a ruby user 😂(ended in 10min)
Lot of people are misunderstanding why i said sun was strong in the early game. Let me clarify.
If Sun is jungle, he gets his level 4 faster than sidelaners, ao in that little time frame he can be strong. Especially in early game skirmishes when the enemy is still at lvl 2 or 3.
But enemy jungle also lvl 4... , sun is good at late game.. not early. Bad about sun is need alot of mana for his skill and if use damage build he fragile like markman , if use thunderbelt first he farm slower.. and thunderblet normally only hit 40 that is only 55 def each until end game therefore , thunderbelt is quite useless. Sun only good kill lord and turtle fast....
U need to know to secure kills in early game without getting confident u can dominate even with sun @@barryknight
This is a good item if your enemies was soft and easy to kill, but this is a squishy item for sun, it's better if your sun has 2 defence item the core item is thunder belt, but the other defence item would be counted at the enemy for lifestealer heroes, mages, and burst
Until he met Khaleed
But... every jungle is the same... if your jungler reaches level 4 alongside everyone else, that just means they ain't jungling right.
Lava golem ❌
Ricky ✅
I hope that becomes his official name shinmen has been calling him ricky since he started playing ml and also the lizard is mark
nah bro its the bear
@@quibble9003 that's in another map not this map
Yes! Shinmen @@sosndmdkxkxmxx
No his name is fuego
Horroro Chan was right when he said "Sun is not for everyone"
Yes, because you have to memorize his skills and also tricks to avoid enemy skills
@@fraxinusdmchu2371Sun Is Easy, But Its The Item That Will Make New Sun Player Confused. Because He Has So Much Build Variation, Different Build Then Different Playstyle
@@ratsbor2555youre right. critical build (ambush playstyle), tank jungler sun, semi hybrid, attack speed, corrosion dhs windtalker heptaseas, thats just his build variation
Yeah Sun is low floor but high ceiling hero. So many possibilities
Sun good for pushing only
Winrate build👎👎
Winrate team👍👍
And we are here solo rankers united
Me trying to use sun in jungle like mobazane
Hilda enemy's in early game: Hello dear 🗿
Strongest Europe server vs average Asia server
Bro you dont know how cancer North America servers is 😭😭😭
My core was busy farming WHEN MINIONS WERE PUSHING BASE
And it was on mythic lobby.
@@TheQuietKidAmerican😂😂
eu server is better until mythic
in ph the epic ranks play like warrior but in eu epic ranks play like mythic its weird but then when you get to mythic they play like the mythics who are in epic lol
and ive played 100 games in ph server on 300 ping if you are wondering
@@TheQuietKidAmerican At least Eu and Na server show afford. Asia server is something. Especially lndo server
Thats NA server dog not Eu, every server is garbage in its own way
Meanwhile Golden Staff his original item but most of players didn't use it
Didn't know thunderbelt could be used like that! Keep it up!💗
it's bc of the revamp that you doesn't need to cast skill anymore
You'd be surprised to know that the red roam buff can be applied by his clones too
@@yuandatriogary191Yeah it was pretty OP. Have been trying build and so far thunder belt+endless+demon hunter is the best since you can proc it immediately with E together with clones. Which means if you have 2 clones, each E proc 3 times with item passive. This wukong changes have been great so far.
@@kalliope36 imo old belt was better
@@marrymejisoo3413 how was it better when current belt deals more damage, a slow that almost acts like an immobile and a lot better defense while the past belt depends on ur hp and can't even be spam by hero that has long skill cd
When enemy team all attack at sun and don’t let him get his buff😍
Time to push those lanes~
@@xyz6542
The very happy Helcurt and Hilda:
@@sanstheskeleton679The ban section
Thunderbelt on sun is so underrated op, so glad not a lot of people know that
lol once i reached like 50stacks,i always purchase it as my first item even before boots
Make him play with random he will know the pain
Lol he plays solo alot .
@@tiklester5378 and then his teammates feed when he plays 5 man😂
@@tiklester5378because he play in an easy server thats why
Watch my Silvanna gameplay, your skills will definitely grow
İ was top global 1 sun, i always played solo ranked. İ always needed my team to pass early game, and only in mid to late game i could show my gameplay.becouse, if lanes lost, they immediately invade my jungle and i cant do anything in early to mid game without my teams help. For example: my team starts a fight for the creep in water(i forgot the name), my tank or mid lane die, they immediately ambush my jungle and what can i do? No stun, no burst damage etc. Thats why sun always needs a strong team for early game
My rating on 🌞
Jungling:7/10
Pushing:8/10
Baiting:8/10
Escaping:10/10
In Summary
Sun is extremely annoying but squishy asf hero he's strong when he has all clones but weak to burst and sustain heroes..
How to counter sun?Use Heroes With Extreme burst or any hero with good CC..
Eudora In Bush(ambush sun when's hes roaming solo)
Saber(High Burst)
Clint(Good Mobility and Good Stun)
Kagura(Ult Can Kill Both Sun and his clones, depends on your skill)
Akai(Can stop his clones)
Best Build for sun?Semi Attack speed build with Hybrid Defense..why? Coz sun is SQUISHY ASF🌞🙂..
Sun is very good against this junglers;
Gusion(Sun Can make gusion useless with his ult)
Karina(just exhaust her ult and she useless)
And more..
silvana can counter sun pretty easy . try it
@@sitimurni7547 nah bro sun can use ult and silvanna gets demolished by sun and clones,😂
YZ beats the crap out of him, in a 1v1 his clones help heal YZ lol
@@bored_gamer419 demon hunter sword+Corrosion scythe+sea halberd= slow,anti-heal,HP damage=dead yuzhong😂
@@bored_gamer419 yuzhong is useless if you know how to counter him..
Thank you for the tutor, maybe i can use this for some jungler, thanks again!
Born another dark system
Sun still needs revamp
Some people dont know thunder belt verry over power this patch. In the early 1 stac thunder belt is 210 true damage, skill 1 or 2 sun get 110 true damage, skill 4 get 150 true damage.
You are the besttt😊😊😊
Informative😮
Looks like bro been never invaded from blue side while he clears green buff. 😂😂😂
Mobazane has extra love and affection for war axe.
Thats why my favorite hero is sun
It's beter sun to have thunderbolt with brute force and dominance ice to be more tanky and deal damage...since sun is too weak now....I recommend two to three defence item for more sustain....or else sun melt too fast comparing to other exp laner
As a sun jungle
I highly recommend sun pure crit build
Problem with exp sun is that he can't outburst high aoe lifesteal heroes without full damage build and every high rank meta exp laners are lifesteal heroes
sun is my favorite hero
In my opinion sun is better with full damage items, sun is not good for long term battles so you need to hit and run when playing sun.
I often get MVP on Honor-glory with Kda 14-2-7
He's good on early when he just reaches level 4, after that he goes back to eternal farming. His kit makes ganking Very easy so when the enemy laner is still level 2, he can easily initiate 2v1 with his own laner and probably get a flicker off or a kill. Then he go back to farming cuz the enemy has outscaled him once again at level 4.
Until he starts getting Thunderbelt, he'll start joining team fights again with trying to stack up as much as possible. Them Corrossion scythe and waraxe is the key. He can finally join fights and start carrying against most squishy enemy.
The final touch is when he got DHS and Malefic, At this point he can fight any enemy cuz he have a lot of def and M.def from thunderbelt stack, and %health dmg + high penetration.
Endless battle+demon hunter is better. You dont want to wait a long time to stack Axe stacks since your clones doesnt last long(except ult). You dont need corrosion either because your clones can proc thunder passive.
Meanwhile endless gives you mana regen on top of movespeed and hybrid vamp which is better than pure spell vamp. Wukong doesnt benefit from spell vamp that much since he have almost no ability dmg. And demon hunter gives you lifesteal + current hp% dmg.
All of these PrO pLaYeRs seems to not understand their champ or worse never read skill description. Their macro might be good but their micro and mechanics knowledge is poor. They even build Malefic Roar on Wukong when his passive already gives him 40% armor reduction 😂
if i reached endgame i will switch my boots to windtalker
Mobazane more like miracle dota in mobile legend, his gpm is too good , he can even control the map like miracle too, brave to invade enemy jungle.
I still don’t get why would I build war axe on sun, I feel there’s so many better items like endless battle (gives mana regen + true damage + mov speed + CD) or hunter strike (gives penetration + mov speed + CD), I will use the build but without useless war axe with spellvamp.
Ahhh the easy server dude who didn't make it to the finals lol
He played alright, it was the goated side laners that couldn’t do much
@@valiantwarrior1988 I guess karma hits you hard when your mouth has no warranty
Average gameplay from some easy server region.
@@hfzj.Where are u from
God why do you guys have to be so egotistical? I too belong in a server considered to be hardest but i don't rub it on other people's faces.
I liked zane when he had played aov.... Too sad it died
Moba zane when he played against Philippines server: wth🤯 there way too strong 😂
That's skin kinda cool 🤤
True dmg and hp scaling
They have good team that's why win rate is 76%
Man I also build thunder belt 1st after discovering that clones can trigger it with/without skill 2 😁
I very recommend the hand rubbing coz it’s very tingly, Keep this up sadie!
Bro forgot golden staff 💀
Part 2 mana dukkk🔥🔥🔥
I challenge u to play in indian server solo ull know the pain for sure
As a person from Burmese region i think people from my region would be watching this multiple times
Bc sun really is more popular than chou in my region
It's depends upon the team😢😢
The game black myth wukong made me went back to playing sun 😂
same lmao
Hey! That's my build! Good eye Zane!
Only easy server you can use sun jungle 😂😂😂
Yet some top PH global sun players that plays with JG Sun are immortal ranks already, and with plenty of matches and 50-60%+ winrate already...
All heroes can work, its just a matter of team composition, team coordination, and the individual player's gameplay.
@@Christian-CTDC I really want to say this on any person bro there's a zilong user who global and mythic immortal insane 🔥
Yes they play Sun a lot in Malaysia
I mean it depends on who the enemy jungler is and their roamer
@@Christian-CTDCits true to some extend, but sun definitely not a good xp laner nowdays nor jungle. He lacking too many things compared to other xp lane or jungle and not fit on the meta badly
Can I use this for exp lane ?
I thought i was the only one buying thunder belt of sun.
After the update I've been buying thunder belt and war axe on Leomord, sun and roger
Why thunderbolt on Leo the others are fine
@@waleedabdullahkhan5706 it's just a really good item
just need corrosion scyte and tanky build. tank sun is fun
Meanwhile mobazane strugle fighting PH server 😂
He might play in epic ranks where no enimies have a tendency to steal ur buff 🐧
Thunder belt for clones ❌
Thunder belt for the item unique passive ✅
When I play solo in NA server , it only takes me 130 games to reach glory but when I play solo in SEA Server it takes me 250+ matches just for glory lol.And in NA server it only takes less than 15 min for a match but my local server usually have 20+ mins for a match and ofc it's a hard game too😂
Hilda roam : hold my beer
Ban Section: Hello there🗿
you should review my ruby jungle
i have videos posted here on youtube
I miss that old terizla.
What if mm and mage got killed in early game and your hyper sun still farming by seeing your tips 😊
Sun is strong in early game💀
No matter what hero he use,jungler his role😂
You should review @General Sun
Malakas talaga sa classic tapos may Kasama 😅😂😂
Mobazane knows perfectly that he’s trolling whenever he picks sun
Uchiha Mobazane😂
Lithowanderer❌
Walkie Grass✅
Mini Grock✅
I do that for yin jungle but the build is different
New subscriber🎉
XD I always use thunder belt with tenacity as long the hero is sustained
Moral of story :Hav a pro team
Nah moral of story play at na server
Sometimes lose with mage😅😅😅😅
Dhs switch golden staff very good
lithowanderer? me and the bros called it "bulbasaur"
This build is only for those of mythical people. In legend, it won't work because of feeder mia
dam how good is mobazane
Bro lived in epical immortal in asian server.
doesn't immediately upgrade swift crossbow, then what about the corrosion scythe ....
Julian: im sorry?
MobaZane❌ MagaZane✅
what if the enemy core invades and takes your blue?
Because of this video I got Phillipines number 24 sun
If war axe also have life steal i would actually use it on sun(His only skill shot that is a skill dmg is the throwing part of his staff)
I actually use sun as roam tank 😂 red roam ft tough boot , thunder belt , burning mask , dominance ice , Athena , last item free slot for immortal/ brute force/ antique cuirass 😂 if you can timing your doppleganger and your attack that emblem echo aoe will double 😂 means your doppleganger also trigger it .. doppleganger also carry all item unique skill like dominance, burning mask, antique cuirass effect, Athena 😂
Sun with no dominance is mad
I call that green animal a water pokemon
War axe and malefic roar on sun💀
I also have 70% winning rate 😅
Sun is just no skill character cuz every player I've seen play sun they always spawn his type of 2-3more and keep spamming that until I die :/
Mobazane bullied 100000% when playing in PH server
Mobazane ❌
Magazine ✔
Khaleed also has potential as tank to counter enemies that has no cc but all burst 😅 just need vengeance and max out skill2 first 😅 then buy oracle and dominance to strengthen skill2 😂 Khaleed durability nerfed right ? Dominance ice also changed 😂 guess to balance who 😂 🤣 that shit reach the "broken" point once
Mobazane... Mi Hero
Me who plays sun roam with thunderbelt
When im juggling level 4 40 second before the turtle
Sun es el heroe definitivo
Thank you i have now top global 46 sun now because of you❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
Lithowandered ❌️ pokemon ✅️
bro look like sun himself💀💀💀💀
76 is a good wr, but not rlly high
Damnn and He only used Alpha during MSC?🤣
lithowander ❌
cabbage ✅
Maga zane is wild 😂😂 see ign lol💀😂
I tried this it's op☠️💀
Bro please make fanny one vidio I am ur sub plz😢
Yeah.. but still losing in big tournaments...😂😂
At least he got to join a big tournament(m)
Wait wait wait I was in his stream when he's playing this, he didn't know what to buy, he's randomly just buying items.
Met a sun with using this strat like weeks ago and he was very good he kept going away so his clone wouldn't give me gold which was very smart but unfortunately he met me a ruby user 😂(ended in 10min)