I'm new to this channel, this is the first time I've ever clicked on it and it seems to be an excellent channel for beginners. I've been backpacking since I was 12 years old today I turn 71 and through those years I have found what this man has just taught you. It took me walking across the United States to finally figure out how to adjust a backpack. Since then I have hiked a lot on the Appalachian Trail and somewhat in the Grand Tetons and a little bit on the Pacific Crest Trail. So yeah listen to this man he makes a whole lot of sense especially if you're doing through hikes. Thanks so much I am very glad that I found this channel. I will be following this channel from time to time. Thanks for the video have a great day and stay safe and keep your pack cinched! PS I usually say keep your powder dry
Sorry, but I'm going to disappoint you here. That video is full of mistakes. If you want to know the right way to do it, then read my comment I just posted. You'll also find the same valid info with REI and various other sources.
Sorry to be a pain, but according to a store that is very very in the know, the belt should take 80% of the weight of the pack and the center of the hip belt pad should be where the iliac crest sits, not above it but centrally located within the pad... That was a revelation to me and made a huge difference
Same here. I had been wearing packs with the belt above the pelvis/crest since the mid 80s😂 I bought an Osprey Aether pro and had it fitted. The hipbelt should only be slightly above the iliac crest and should be on the hips not above. Just as you said it was a revelation and showed that I had been using packs too small for my long back.
@karlbratby4349 you are correct! Nonmedical folks often misconstrue "hips" with pelvis (particularly iliac crests) and vice versa. They are not the same. It is unrealistic to position your "hip belt" across your hips as that will be much too low. Your recommendation to place the hip belt pads midposition across the iliac crests is most correct for comfort and weight bearing. Yes, the nomenclature of backpack "hip" belts is incorrect - they should be iliac belts (but who would accept that?).
Yeah but your legs are going to be sore in no time bcs you will cut off blood to there the area around your hips has a huge amount of veins so i prefer doing 50% on the hips and even less if my backpack is heavier
Thank you SO MUCH for this. I've been hiking all summer in hot weather (Albuquerque, NM) and dealing with armpit pain. Couldn't figure it out until I watched this video. Didn't know that the front strap could be raised and lowered. This has made all the difference in the fit of my pack. Again, many thanks.
Really? He doesn’t know the name of the parts of the spine or where they are to appropriately measure, he claims a 22” torso is a “medium” despite it being the max of most large size packs, he mentions the adjustability of his pack frame and assumes “most backpacks” have something similar which is entirely false to anyone with any depth of knowledge on backpacks, and he thinks pack straps should start at the scapula area and go up and over which is completely poor direction…but this is the “absolute best” you’ve seen? Maybe watch some more videos…
agrree with ban the stupid. I stopped watching at 2:05 mark when he said c6 or something, not a medical expert. WTF this is basic and critical info which you do not need a medcial degree to know.
@@Truth-Seeker75 might be harder to search out good ones than you think. A lot of this stuff that gets learned and fine tuned over time, trial and error I honestly don’t see many dedicated vids to this when I’m looking it up. I’ve figured out how to get my cheapo Amazon daypack to fit right but it’s tiny with no frame but this big arcterx altra 65 that I fished out of the trash last year is a lot bigger and certainly much better but I just can’t get it to sit right…while the wemons gregory deva is a nice fit…since I’m a 6’ 1” MALE I’d like to fit the men’s bag they looks great rather than the sweat stained ugly orange color ladies bag🤷🏽 I hike alone anyway but dam it’s ugly and too bright… but it seems to fit
Very nice indeed. I have just come back from a 15km overnight hike and my collarbones were a bit sore. Turns out, I have been using the shoulder straps incorrectly for many years! Big gaps on the straps. Your informative video allowed me to re-adjust the frame and bring those straps to fit snugly on my shoulders. One of those Ah-Ha moments.... Cheers from Australia!
Your a lifesaver ! I'm about to go on a 17 mile hike in the Appalachians with my son. He's the (hiker) and ex military. My backpack is cheap & I knew that it needed hip support. I've been training with 45 lbs with all the weight on my shoulders, ( it was killing my neck & my arms go numb ( no blood flow) . I can't thank you enough. U Our hike is 6 days away & I'm gonna tweak my backpack. 🙏🙏🙏😌 you would be a great hiking instructor !!🌎✌
@@BackpackingTV hey we completed the hike & had a great time ! We seen 3 bears. The temperature dropped to 40 degrees(nice)We hiked for 3 days up to Gregorys bald.we camped offgrid for 2 nights. It was a brutal hike . I almost fell down 2 different cliff sides.we hiked down about 4000 feet on the last day in 5 hours . I realized that the back pack definitely does not match me, but with your advice I managed to make it work while minimizing all of the pains that I could. Thank you again for your advice because it allowed me to go on my first real memorable hiking trip.& now i can say stay safe out there.thank you🏞🏕
Thank you so mutch fer showin me whut I was doin rong...my kelty coyote 85l now fits completely differntly and with so mutch more comfort .... hike saver....
The lady in the store where i got my backpack was really helpful with all this sort of stuff but when i had to just refresh myself this video really pulled through for me, thanks a lot brother
The chest strap is for support and is not ever supposed to be tight, but just a light snug fit, not loose, but not tight at all, just support to prevent the straps from pulling apart. Let the Straps carry the weight.
This is super helpful, thank you! Not a backpacker, but got sick of destroying my shoulders trying to carry all my survey gear with random cheap backpacks, and had no idea how to properly adjust the Osprey pack I bought.
Thank you! I just bought a big ass camera bag that holds a ton of equipment that has all these different adjustments and I had no idea how to set it up. I definitely would've put all the weight on my shoulders.
I like your channel it is very informative. with the chest straps you may want to add that Backpack straps typically rest on an area of the shoulders where they may compress the axillary vein which causes abnormally high blood pressure inside the veins and a subsequent decrease of blood flow in the shoulders and arms the chest straps / Sturnam straps pull the shoulder straps back away from the vein very important when carrying heavy loads.
Mod the sternum strap by sewing some elastic band (parallel) to the webbing so that the strap has a range of movement for your breathing. Sometimes you need to double up the elastic band to achieve the required force to have the strap still pull the shoulder straps to the center. [2c]
Thanks for a good explanatory video. If I should add something, it would be a simple thing like when you are pulling the straps, to make sure they are equal, so you don't put strain more on to one side. On my pack, there are small straps to adjust how tight the lower part of the pack are sitting to your lower back/hips. Helpfull too. Also, try to get a pack where the shoulder width fits you, so they are not too far between, falling out over your shoulders, and not too tight digging into your neck and throat. Finally, as I walk, I tend to adjust it a little bit ever so often, and it helps me not becoming tired of one particular position. Also helps a person iwht a bit of back problems, if need be. Just my two cents. Kind regards.
Great video! I use the top straps to adjust the weight forward and backward depedning if I go uphill or downhill also. If helps me the get better balance. Now.. habe to ad that I don’t do much hiking but have been a para ranger for many years and we iften carry up to 90 kilos ( 198lb) and then that matters a lot to have a good balance but to reduce the pressure on knees and so on but also for not.. well falling depending how steep the trail is.
Just stumbled upon this. Excellent video. I'm about to embark on my own backpacking adventures and I'm pretty sure this saved me major headaches. Thank you!
Not sure you mentioned it, but maybe worth to make sure to use the compression straps to make sure the contents of the bag dont move inside and you and the bag are completely fusioned
Hip belt should hug the hip, not sit above. 80% at least of the weight. Mine hold 90+%. Shoulder straps are there to prevent it from falling backwards or shifting from left to right. I have them angled like the top straps so the ventilation is max. My shoulder straps often move around. No sweat there. When walking down hill, release the top straps so the pack moves backwards. Uphill, pull it in close.
I was taught by an army guy that the top strap bringing the pack closer to your back should be loosen up to create a gap between your back and the backpack. This way the weight will go into your hips that can easily take the weight. Having the sucker hugging your backbone all day will fuck up your back. Going uphill it should be tighten up so you don't have to bend forwards a bit. Also having the pack as high as possible works for me. I like the belt buckles to sit atop my hipbones, this way they give additional support. Any thoughts, guys?
Considering I returned 4 packs for discomfort, this video has been very helpful. Next, waiting for the Bridger 65. Hope it works. Be well. Happy Trails!
9:40 That chest strap is important for large backpacks with bulky, heavy loads. Good fitment helps with preventing side to side shifting and keeping the backpack centered. For example when traversing over very uneven trails and side stepping over large rocks with a heavy pack. This is where the chest strap fitment becomes very helpful.
Enjoyed this video. As an older, long-time back packer I was somewhat surprised to hear you recommend 50% on your hips. I was taught to get as much as possible off your shoulders and as much as 80% on your hips, was I taught wrong or have recommendations changed over the years?
Hey I actually thing you should carry more than 50% of your weight in the belt around hips. I usually say to my friends between 70-80%. It can damage shoulders and your back if you carry that much weight talking about 50% as u said on 18-23kg load on your shoulders. What do you think?
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Other than that good and clear explanation. So many people are carrying the heavy packs not properly.. I always feel so bad for their shoulders and back.
This video is on spot... I’m currently using surplus gear... either an ILBE or an old ALICE and this video sure helped even with that gear... too bad there wasn’t you tube when I was still in... we just had trial and error method lol... be safe..
Ideally the hip belt should be moving reasonably well with your hips and not doing a lot of rubbing. Your pack might not be sitting on the right part of your hips. The buckle should be up close to your belly button, just a couple inches lower. Try playing around with the fit of the pack to get it right. Gear shops usually have helpful people working in them that can help you troubleshoot too.
And also consider the fit of your pants/how high up your waistband is. It's become more common in the past few decades that men's jeans/cargo pants/shorts are worn lower down, instead of higher like dress slacks.
Get rid of that Mystery Ranch and get an Osprey. I've used many different packs on short and long hikes. Osprey are hands down the Cadillac of backpacks especially if you get the heat molded hip belt. I currently run the Xenith 88 and 40lbs in it feels like 30lbs. Love the Adidas Terrex shirt. Adidas all the way!!!!! Great information bud!!!!
I've used all sorts of backpacks in my day, including Osprey. I do think they are nice and comfortable. But my biggest complaint with them is their zippers bust all the time. Maybe they've figured that out. But every pack of theirs I've used I've had zippers fail and my pack spills its guts. No bueno. Glad to hear your's is working nicely!
Brilliant video! Thank you for making this. Something that costs nothing* but pays huge dividends. I think it might be C7 vertebra, going by Mystery Ranch's sizing. * Assuming you bought the size for 'you'. Research thoroughly before purchasing!
Wonderful video!!! The only thing I would have to say is that that other strap that you use that goes on your chest is not really a comfort strain. That helps to keep your pack stabilized. The sternum strap. That strap is pretty important to use.
It does help with stability yes. So I guess in that sense it is important. I believe it mostly serves to keep the shoulder straps at a comfortable spot on your chest, but sometimes it restricts my breathing. I often hike with it unclipped and don't notice a less stable pack. But maybe that's just me!
@@BackpackingTV i notice that i relax my shoulders more if i close the strap and kind of lean into it. when i leave it open my shoulders move forwards.
The height an frame thing makes so much more sense now. My boyfriend is 6'6" and super lanky. I'm 5'5" and much chunkier than him. We use almost the same size frame comfortably and I never understood why until now. Great video!
Thanks for the video! I always struggle with the hip belt. I'm not sure if its because I have quite pointy hips and a narrow waist, but it always wants to ride upwards. When I do manage to get it to sit over the hips, they always hurt by the end of the day where the belt has put pressure on the hipbone, even with a padded belt. Any idea what I might be doing wrong / how to fix this? The back is definitely set to the right length.
It seems like the hip belt should ride just at or above the iliac crest (that's the boney protrusions at the top of your hips). I can see if you have a really low waist to hip ratio (i.e. circumference of your waist is
How do you feel about your waist belt? I thought ideally it is supposed to sit on your hip? Why do you have it so high? Is it normal to have it why high above your hip?
Awesome video! Definitely helped me out a ton. I’m 5’11” with a 48” chest BUT my torso is only 21” long so I’m a medium! Thank you! Subscribed! Sidenote: motions at time stamp 9:20 are sus
I like to push my limits so have been hiking up rocky trails with between 80-100lbs on my back. It's hard on the shoulders and i keep rubbing the skin off the base of my lumbar. The special forces guys often do 120+ lbs at a jog so I'm wondering if there's a trick to avoiding this? Maybe it's just because I'm skinny and don't have much natural padding? Great video by the way, thanks.
Part of it's proper fitting and weight distribution in the backpack or rucksack, part of it is bringing only the bare essentials, reducing extraneous items (field stripping MREs, etc.) , and part of it is having resupply drops. I can't vouch for Special Forces, but I can speak to my experience with 50lb rucksacks plus gear plus a 30lb SICGARS radio and batteries plus 40lb Stinger Missile Field Handling Trainer or PVC Sandtube for 12 mile ruck marches through swampy muskeg in Alaska. Would not recommend. Push yourself all you want now; you're not going to have any cartilage in those knees and ankles later. And even with proper medical documentation, the military doesn't like to cover that kind of disability.
@@BackpackingTV well its actually not. although it says so everywhere. i am a doctor and i got super confused when i first wanted to buy a backpack for backpacking a while ago. the C7 vertebra is the first one you feel coming down from your head. you feel it best when tilting your head back. it is at least 3 inches higher than the point you would measure your torso length from. I have literally no idea which vertebra everyone is really referring to as i can feel each of my vertebrae in that section of my back when tilting my head forwards. there is no anatomical bump that everybody has. i wonder who started the C7 story and how it got to every backpack company's website without anybody ever correcting it.
@@robopecha Well, actually, IT IS! The first cervical vertebra (Atlas) is C-1 and difficult to feel, the 7th cervical vertebra (vertebra prominens or C-7) is the typical anatomical protrusion at the base of the neck where the measurement is taken from. The endpoint, however, should be the iliac crests or top of the pelvic girdle where the weight of the backpack rests.
FYi... that "knob" on the neck is C7... the seventh cervical vertebra. Tidbit for the day... All mammals have 7 cervical vertebra. Now what do you mean by "just above your lumbar"?
It’s gonna change based on your dimensions, so there’s no easy way to answer that. You can always take your pack into a gear shop, they’ll usually help people get their pack fitted.
Hey there! It's likely your pack size isn't quite right for your torso and my guess is that it's too small, thus not allowing the weight to sit on both your waist and shoulders. Usually your local gear shop can help you learn how to make the proper adjustments. But if your pack is just the wrong size, it might be time for an upgrade so you can be comfortable out there.
With 50l you have enough capacity for up to 5 or heck even 7 days. Part of the art is being essential or rather, smart. Difference with an Osprey is mainly durability. Ospreys are great, a bit lighter but wont last as long.
My osprey pack rubbed my hips RAW it’s very adjustable but regardless of what I didn’t on trail I ended with massive scabs on my lower hip. Bummed I can’t return it now but if anyone has some ideas I’d love to hear them.
well its actually not. although it says so everywhere. i am a doctor and i got super confused when i first wanted to buy a backpack for backpacking a while ago. the C7 vertebra is the first one you feel coming down from your head. you feel it best when tilting your head back. it is at least 3 inches higher than the point you would measure your torso length from. I have literally no idea which vertebra everyone is really referring to as i can feel each of my vertebrae in that section of my back when tilting my head forwards. there is no anatomical bump that everybody has. i wonder who started the C7 story and how it got to every backpack company's website without anybody ever correcting it.
Hi! I'm a tall hiker (6 feet 2) and have a backlength of about 20 inches. I have a backpack (Lowe Alpine Airzone Trail 25) with a back length of 18". It is a one size pack. Is it too small for me? Is this really that important considering you cant really fill it as heavy as a 65L pack?
Hey Eric, I bought a Bridger 55L, going by my torso and waist size. Torso being 51cm and waist 101cm, I went with a Large. Is this the right size? The Mystery Ranch size chart seems to think so. If not, I will have to change it. EDIT: sorry, that's 52cm torso.
Thank you very much for this video. I have the same pack and the problem I’m having is near the end of your video with the comfort strap in the front. Mine is way up at my collarbone but in order to lower it I have to take it apart and I’m not sure how. Can you please help me with that.
Extend your straps with another set in between the shoulder straps and where they connect to the bottom of the backpack? Depending on the straps and adjustable buckles, that might require undoing the stitches from the bottom portion, just knotting them off in the short term, and then sewing them back after you're sure of the fit with your new extensions. I'm sitting here at a Burger King, looking at my backpack, and considering just that, since this one likes to cut off the blood flow to my arms.
Is there anyway I can make my backpack still comfortable? I had recently purchased a backpack online which is unfortunately bigger than my size and the torso length is non adjustable. There's a slight gap between my shoulders and the strap on the outer side. Is there anything I can do to make my backpack still useful and comfortable?
Hi! Nice video! Might I ask you to add some text to the video with Metric System when you talks about quality metrics in Imperial Systems. Your audience outside the US would be happy! I have to pause and convert pound to a units that peope usualy use ))
Can you give me your guidance? I am a slender, small framed 5'5 woman with narrow sloping shoulders and my collarbone and the top bone of my rib cage are easily seen. I have been fitted several times (mostly for Osprey packs & a few Gregory) and for every pack I wear (about 35-38L), I feel pressure on the front of both shoulder straps, right below my collarbone. It is actually painful and I have tried everything... adjusting the size, the waist belt, all of the straps you have shown with a professional. I'm wondering if it is due to the fact that the Osprey pack has a different design (forgot what it's called) and my frame doesn't work with that. I don't sweat a lot so I'm fine with the pack being closer to my back if that's what I need. Can you recommend what other brands may work for me? I have already spent 6 hours at REI trying on packs so I want to try to do research at home before heading back again. This doesn't happen at all on my Osprey 20L but of course that is much lighter and I only put water & food in it. Thank you!
Hi Linda! Your experience is unfortunate, and typical of slender women. The backpacking industry has not done a great job of designing packs to properly fit the wonderful diversity of women's bodies. Gregory and Osprey tend to make packs that have a lot of padding on the straps, which typically means more comfort. But if that hasn't worked for you, I might suggest trying a different style altogether. Hyperlite and Granite Gear make minimalistic, lightweight packs that will sit differently than the Ospreys and Gregories and are geared towards ultralight backpackers. You might need to be on the aggressive side of pack-weight management and go really light in order to have a pleasant experience. Maybe try those, and let me know how it goes!
@@BackpackingTV Wow, thank you so much for your guidance! Our hiking trip will be from village to village anyway so I do not carry any camping gear. So those brands could very well work for me - I will check them out! I plan to carry about 18 pounds and I weigh 128, but I may be able to get that down to 15 pounds. Appreciate it!
Standing at my railway station
5 min before departure
Learning how to fit my 65L bag
Thanks man! Saved my day
How you doing?
Still on the trail?
@@swayback7375i guess so.. poor dude
@@Threat_LvL he never made it back, he missed the load straps :(
I'm new to this channel, this is the first time I've ever clicked on it and it seems to be an excellent channel for beginners. I've been backpacking since I was 12 years old today I turn 71 and through those years I have found what this man has just taught you. It took me walking across the United States to finally figure out how to adjust a backpack. Since then I have hiked a lot on the Appalachian Trail and somewhat in the Grand Tetons and a little bit on the Pacific Crest Trail. So yeah listen to this man he makes a whole lot of sense especially if you're doing through hikes. Thanks so much I am very glad that I found this channel. I will be following this channel from time to time. Thanks for the video have a great day and stay safe and keep your pack cinched! PS I usually say keep your powder dry
Sorry, but I'm going to disappoint you here. That video is full of mistakes. If you want to know the right way to do it, then read my comment I just posted. You'll also find the same valid info with REI and various other sources.
Sorry to be a pain, but according to a store that is very very in the know, the belt should take 80% of the weight of the pack and the center of the hip belt pad should be where the iliac crest sits, not above it but centrally located within the pad... That was a revelation to me and made a huge difference
Same here. I had been wearing packs with the belt above the pelvis/crest since the mid 80s😂
I bought an Osprey Aether pro and had it fitted. The hipbelt should only be slightly above the iliac crest and should be on the hips not above.
Just as you said it was a revelation and showed that I had been using packs too small for my long back.
I was told the same at REI
@karlbratby4349 you are correct! Nonmedical folks often misconstrue "hips" with pelvis (particularly iliac crests) and vice versa. They are not the same. It is unrealistic to position your "hip belt" across your hips as that will be much too low. Your recommendation to place the hip belt pads midposition across the iliac crests is most correct for comfort and weight bearing. Yes, the nomenclature of backpack "hip" belts is incorrect - they should be iliac belts (but who would accept that?).
Yeah but your legs are going to be sore in no time bcs you will cut off blood to there the area around your hips has a huge amount of veins so i prefer doing 50% on the hips and even less if my backpack is heavier
You're right because I ALREADY did research on it all afternoon because I just got My first pack AND IT'S GORGEOUS BLUE COLOUR! 💙
Thank you SO MUCH for this. I've been hiking all summer in hot weather (Albuquerque, NM) and dealing with armpit pain. Couldn't figure it out until I watched this video. Didn't know that the front strap could be raised and lowered. This has made all the difference in the fit of my pack. Again, many thanks.
The absolute best video on this subject. Thank you and please take a bow, Eric. Your entire channel is fantastic.
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Really? He doesn’t know the name of the parts of the spine or where they are to appropriately measure, he claims a 22” torso is a “medium” despite it being the max of most large size packs, he mentions the adjustability of his pack frame and assumes “most backpacks” have something similar which is entirely false to anyone with any depth of knowledge on backpacks, and he thinks pack straps should start at the scapula area and go up and over which is completely poor direction…but this is the “absolute best” you’ve seen? Maybe watch some more videos…
agrree with ban the stupid. I stopped watching at 2:05 mark when he said c6 or something, not a medical expert. WTF this is basic and critical info which you do not need a medcial degree to know.
@@Truth-Seeker75 might be harder to search out good ones than you think. A lot of this stuff that gets learned and fine tuned over time, trial and error I honestly don’t see many dedicated vids to this when I’m looking it up. I’ve figured out how to get my cheapo Amazon daypack to fit right but it’s tiny with no frame but this big arcterx altra 65 that I fished out of the trash last year is a lot bigger and certainly much better but I just can’t get it to sit right…while the wemons gregory deva is a nice fit…since I’m a 6’ 1” MALE I’d like to fit the men’s bag they looks great rather than the sweat stained ugly orange color ladies bag🤷🏽 I hike alone anyway but dam it’s ugly and too bright… but it seems to fit
Very nice indeed. I have just come back from a 15km overnight hike and my collarbones were a bit sore. Turns out, I have been using the shoulder straps incorrectly for many years! Big gaps on the straps. Your informative video allowed me to re-adjust the frame and bring those straps to fit snugly on my shoulders. One of those Ah-Ha moments.... Cheers from Australia!
Your a lifesaver ! I'm about to go on a 17 mile hike in the Appalachians with my son. He's the (hiker) and ex military. My backpack is cheap & I knew that it needed hip support. I've been training with 45 lbs with all the weight on my shoulders, ( it was killing my neck & my arms go numb ( no blood flow) . I can't thank you enough. U
Our hike is 6 days away & I'm gonna tweak my backpack. 🙏🙏🙏😌 you would be a great hiking instructor !!🌎✌
Thanks so much Glenn! Let me know how your trip went!
@@BackpackingTV hey we completed the hike & had a great time ! We seen 3 bears. The temperature dropped to 40 degrees(nice)We hiked for 3 days up to Gregorys bald.we camped offgrid for 2 nights. It was a brutal hike . I almost fell down 2 different cliff sides.we hiked down about 4000 feet on the last day in 5 hours . I realized that the back pack definitely does not match me, but with your advice I managed to make it work while minimizing all of the pains that I could. Thank you again for your advice because it allowed me to go on my first real memorable hiking trip.& now i can say stay safe out there.thank you🏞🏕
Thank you so mutch fer showin me whut I was doin rong...my kelty coyote 85l now fits completely differntly and with so mutch more comfort .... hike saver....
The lady in the store where i got my backpack was really helpful with all this sort of stuff but when i had to just refresh myself this video really pulled through for me, thanks a lot brother
The chest strap is for support and is not ever supposed to be tight, but just a light snug fit, not loose, but not tight at all, just support to prevent the straps from pulling apart. Let the Straps carry the weight.
Been backpacking for a few years now and your tutorial is spot on!
Thankyou, just found out about that velcro part from you on my backpack. Shoulder saver!!!!
Constant adjustment! Also never keep going with issues always stop and correct right away to avoid any pain or injury.
This is super helpful, thank you! Not a backpacker, but got sick of destroying my shoulders trying to carry all my survey gear with random cheap backpacks, and had no idea how to properly adjust the Osprey pack I bought.
Me and my son and a good friend do alot of hunting and hiking together and this tips are good to know thanks
The sternum strap pulls the shoulder straps inwards so the load pulls back on your chest instead of your shoulders.
Thank you! I just bought a big ass camera bag that holds a ton of equipment that has all these different adjustments and I had no idea how to set it up. I definitely would've put all the weight on my shoulders.
Glad I could help!
I like your channel it is very informative. with the chest straps you may want to add that Backpack straps typically rest on an area of the shoulders where they may compress the axillary vein which causes abnormally high blood pressure inside the veins and a subsequent decrease of blood flow in the shoulders and arms the chest straps / Sturnam straps pull the shoulder straps back away from the vein very important when carrying heavy loads.
Mod the sternum strap by sewing some elastic band (parallel) to the webbing so that the strap has a range of movement for your breathing. Sometimes you need to double up the elastic band to achieve the required force to have the strap still pull the shoulder straps to the center. [2c]
solid recommendation!
Thanks for a good explanatory video. If I should add something, it would be a simple thing like when you are pulling the straps, to make sure they are equal, so you don't put strain more on to one side. On my pack, there are small straps to adjust how tight the lower part of the pack are sitting to your lower back/hips. Helpfull too.
Also, try to get a pack where the shoulder width fits you, so they are not too far between, falling out over your shoulders, and not too tight digging into your neck and throat.
Finally, as I walk, I tend to adjust it a little bit ever so often, and it helps me not becoming tired of one particular position. Also helps a person iwht a bit of back problems, if need be.
Just my two cents.
Kind regards.
Yes! Absolutely, great recommendations!
Great video! I use the top straps to adjust the weight forward and backward depedning if I go uphill or downhill also. If helps me the get better balance. Now.. habe to ad that I don’t do much hiking but have been a para ranger for many years and we iften carry up to 90 kilos ( 198lb) and then that matters a lot to have a good balance but to reduce the pressure on knees and so on but also for not.. well falling depending how steep the trail is.
200 pounds?! That’s bonkers!
Thanks for this video I just did 10 km with a 50lb pack and my shoulders are killing me lol all in all a good hike.
Why so much stuff? I wouldn't even be able to stand up let alone hike lol
This is probably the best video i've ever seen about this subject, thank you
Just stumbled upon this. Excellent video. I'm about to embark on my own backpacking adventures and I'm pretty sure this saved me major headaches. Thank you!
Heading to Ponds Arkansas. Goat trail, big bluff and Granny Henderson's cabin this weekend
Not sure you mentioned it, but maybe worth to make sure to use the compression straps to make sure the contents of the bag dont move inside and you and the bag are completely fusioned
Thank you for this, helped me get my pack adjusted before my first hike. Appreciate it
Great video! I'm a newbie and just got my osprey aether backpack. Your info was incredibly helpful, thanks a lot!
Love the clear and informative explaination, thank you!
You're welcome! Hope it's helpful.
Thanks for recommending mystery Ranch. I just got mystery ranch marchell s/m size today
wonderful! Enjoy it!
Hip belt should hug the hip, not sit above. 80% at least of the weight. Mine hold 90+%. Shoulder straps are there to prevent it from falling backwards or shifting from left to right. I have them angled like the top straps so the ventilation is max. My shoulder straps often move around. No sweat there. When walking down hill, release the top straps so the pack moves backwards. Uphill, pull it in close.
Great video, super informative. I usually only use the sternum strap when I'm going uphill for a whole. I guess o swing my arms more
I was taught by an army guy that the top strap bringing the pack closer to your back should be loosen up to create a gap between your back and the backpack. This way the weight will go into your hips that can easily take the weight. Having the sucker hugging your backbone all day will fuck up your back. Going uphill it should be tighten up so you don't have to bend forwards a bit. Also having the pack as high as possible works for me. I like the belt buckles to sit atop my hipbones, this way they give additional support. Any thoughts, guys?
Considering I returned 4 packs for discomfort, this video has been very helpful. Next, waiting for the Bridger 65. Hope it works. Be well. Happy Trails!
This video deserves more views. Thank for the tips
What's those glasses 🕶️ from?
Just bought a MR Terraframe 50. Perfect companion video.
Excellent choice!
Nicely done. Eric, fit is critical. Can not emphasize the importance. Well done.
9:40 That chest strap is important for large backpacks with bulky, heavy loads. Good fitment helps with preventing side to side shifting and keeping the backpack centered.
For example when traversing over very uneven trails and side stepping over large rocks with a heavy pack. This is where the chest strap fitment becomes very helpful.
Also they ease shoulder stress when configured corectly.. so.. I can't believe he said it's just for mobility
Nice! Did this at Air Cadets but learnt new things here 😁
Great video, I was assuming I wanted it down by my belt. Thank you.
God bless for making this video.
P.S.. what’re those shades?
Enjoyed this video. As an older, long-time back packer I was somewhat surprised to hear you recommend 50% on your hips. I was taught to get as much as possible off your shoulders and as much as 80% on your hips, was I taught wrong or have recommendations changed over the years?
You are right
Hey I actually thing you should carry more than 50% of your weight in the belt around hips. I usually say to my friends between 70-80%. It can damage shoulders and your back if you carry that much weight talking about 50% as u said on 18-23kg load on your shoulders. What do you think?
Other than that good and clear explanation. So many people are carrying the heavy packs not properly.. I always feel so bad for their shoulders and back.
I feel the same way. 50/50 is too much for the shoulders.
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This video is on spot... I’m currently using surplus gear... either an ILBE or an old ALICE and this video sure helped even with that gear... too bad there wasn’t you tube when I was still in... we just had trial and error method lol... be safe..
Any tips for hip belt rubbing hip bone? Also shoulder straps leaving some decent marks as well
Ideally the hip belt should be moving reasonably well with your hips and not doing a lot of rubbing. Your pack might not be sitting on the right part of your hips. The buckle should be up close to your belly button, just a couple inches lower. Try playing around with the fit of the pack to get it right. Gear shops usually have helpful people working in them that can help you troubleshoot too.
And also consider the fit of your pants/how high up your waistband is.
It's become more common in the past few decades that men's jeans/cargo pants/shorts are worn lower down, instead of higher like dress slacks.
great video. I am just about to go on a hike around UK for a few years, so was good to be reminded that my pack setup is all good. Thanks
Get rid of that Mystery Ranch and get an Osprey. I've used many different packs on short and long hikes. Osprey are hands down the Cadillac of backpacks especially if you get the heat molded hip belt. I currently run the Xenith 88 and 40lbs in it feels like 30lbs.
Love the Adidas Terrex shirt. Adidas all the way!!!!!
Great information bud!!!!
I've used all sorts of backpacks in my day, including Osprey. I do think they are nice and comfortable. But my biggest complaint with them is their zippers bust all the time. Maybe they've figured that out. But every pack of theirs I've used I've had zippers fail and my pack spills its guts. No bueno. Glad to hear your's is working nicely!
literally he know who he talking to, he know who's watching he's videos
Brilliant video! Thank you for making this. Something that costs nothing* but pays huge dividends.
I think it might be C7 vertebra, going by Mystery Ranch's sizing.
* Assuming you bought the size for 'you'. Research thoroughly before purchasing!
thank you! we just got eagle creek 65L global packs. thank you!
Heck yeah! Enjoy!
Great video. Clear tips, sharp reasoning and awesome instructions! Thanks for sharing 😍 Happy Hiking Y'all
Wonderful video!!! The only thing I would have to say is that that other strap that you use that goes on your chest is not really a comfort strain. That helps to keep your pack stabilized. The sternum strap. That strap is pretty important to use.
It does help with stability yes. So I guess in that sense it is important. I believe it mostly serves to keep the shoulder straps at a comfortable spot on your chest, but sometimes it restricts my breathing. I often hike with it unclipped and don't notice a less stable pack. But maybe that's just me!
@@BackpackingTV i notice that i relax my shoulders more if i close the strap and kind of lean into it. when i leave it open my shoulders move forwards.
The height an frame thing makes so much more sense now. My boyfriend is 6'6" and super lanky. I'm 5'5" and much chunkier than him. We use almost the same size frame comfortably and I never understood why until now.
Great video!
Best vedio on how to adjust your pack. Mystery ranch needs this vedio on their website..
Thanks Eric. Your video is my favorite backpack fitting video. I really learned some stuff from you.
Excellent Daniel glad to hear it!
useful even for experienced hikers, very well explained.
Great introductory video for a newbie like me 👍
Thanks for the video! I always struggle with the hip belt. I'm not sure if its because I have quite pointy hips and a narrow waist, but it always wants to ride upwards. When I do manage to get it to sit over the hips, they always hurt by the end of the day where the belt has put pressure on the hipbone, even with a padded belt. Any idea what I might be doing wrong / how to fix this? The back is definitely set to the right length.
It seems like the hip belt should ride just at or above the iliac crest (that's the boney protrusions at the top of your hips). I can see if you have a really low waist to hip ratio (i.e. circumference of your waist is
Such a helpful video, thanks so much! I subscribed and liked! Keep the videos coming!
Wish I seen your video before I bought my first "real" backpack. Would have reduced the uncertainty. Great information and well presented.
I appreciate that!
Thanks man, this is awesome. Helped me to get the perfect fit
Great
Explained with very simple instructions.
Best I've seen
👍👍👍
Glad it was helpful!
3 bar slider that attaches to the shoulder strap needs to be moved forward so sits around collar bone
Great video... I made the mistake of purchasing a gently used backpack without asking about the size. It's a large and I need a small..
Thank you really help me to see what was my mistake.
How do you feel about your waist belt? I thought ideally it is supposed to sit on your hip? Why do you have it so high? Is it normal to have it why high above your hip?
Awesome video! Definitely helped me out a ton. I’m 5’11” with a 48” chest BUT my torso is only 21” long so I’m a medium! Thank you! Subscribed!
Sidenote: motions at time stamp 9:20 are sus
Only if you make it
I like to push my limits so have been hiking up rocky trails with between 80-100lbs on my back. It's hard on the shoulders and i keep rubbing the skin off the base of my lumbar. The special forces guys often do 120+ lbs at a jog so I'm wondering if there's a trick to avoiding this? Maybe it's just because I'm skinny and don't have much natural padding? Great video by the way, thanks.
Part of it's proper fitting and weight distribution in the backpack or rucksack, part of it is bringing only the bare essentials, reducing extraneous items (field stripping MREs, etc.) , and part of it is having resupply drops.
I can't vouch for Special Forces, but I can speak to my experience with 50lb rucksacks plus gear plus a 30lb SICGARS radio and batteries plus 40lb Stinger Missile Field Handling Trainer or PVC Sandtube for 12 mile ruck marches through swampy muskeg in Alaska.
Would not recommend.
Push yourself all you want now; you're not going to have any cartilage in those knees and ankles later.
And even with proper medical documentation, the military doesn't like to cover that kind of disability.
The blog post you refer to at 11:06 isn't in the description
Hmm.. I'll take a look.
What´s your approach on one size fits all backcpacks? Thanks!
Hey Eric, Great video! It’s the C7 that you measure to btw. That’s the bump on the back of your neck.
Thanks! I needed a reminder.
@@BackpackingTV well its actually not. although it says so everywhere. i am a doctor and i got super confused when i first wanted to buy a backpack for backpacking a while ago.
the C7 vertebra is the first one you feel coming down from your head. you feel it best when tilting your head back. it is at least 3 inches higher than the point you would measure your torso length from. I have literally no idea which vertebra everyone is really referring to as i can feel each of my vertebrae in that section of my back when tilting my head forwards. there is no anatomical bump that everybody has. i wonder who started the C7 story and how it got to every backpack company's website without anybody ever correcting it.
@@robopecha Well, actually, IT IS! The first cervical vertebra (Atlas) is C-1 and difficult to feel, the 7th cervical vertebra (vertebra prominens or C-7) is the typical anatomical protrusion at the base of the neck where the measurement is taken from. The endpoint, however, should be the iliac crests or top of the pelvic girdle where the weight of the backpack rests.
@@medicus5565 no. C7 is not at the base of the neck. it is just a fact. whether you want it or not.
FYi... that "knob" on the neck is C7... the seventh cervical vertebra. Tidbit for the day... All mammals have 7 cervical vertebra. Now what do you mean by "just above your lumbar"?
Thank you for this video. Could you tell me where is the correct place of the buccle fixed just above the shoulder straps?
It’s gonna change based on your dimensions, so there’s no easy way to answer that. You can always take your pack into a gear shop, they’ll usually help people get their pack fitted.
What causes me to feel like all the weight is on my shoulder and not distributed to my waste belt even I tighten down my belt
Hey there! It's likely your pack size isn't quite right for your torso and my guess is that it's too small, thus not allowing the weight to sit on both your waist and shoulders. Usually your local gear shop can help you learn how to make the proper adjustments. But if your pack is just the wrong size, it might be time for an upgrade so you can be comfortable out there.
Yeah bro so good from Costa Rica 🇨🇷
What do you think about Thule Guidepost?
Thanks for the help!
What sunglasses are you wearing?
Really enjoyed this. I’m curious about your pack and why that model vs something larger (65L). I’m looking at that model vs an Osprey pack
With 50l you have enough capacity for up to 5 or heck even 7 days. Part of the art is being essential or rather, smart.
Difference with an Osprey is mainly durability. Ospreys are great, a bit lighter but wont last as long.
Great stuff! Best video on subject. Much appreciated, thank you very much,
well thank you very much! Glad it was helpful.
My osprey pack rubbed my hips RAW it’s very adjustable but regardless of what I didn’t on trail I ended with massive scabs on my lower hip. Bummed I can’t return it now but if anyone has some ideas I’d love to hear them.
C7 spine neck is correct answer; good video
Any sling pack videos ?
I pulled the top-most straps (What are they called?) and the pack pushed my head forward. 😕
It is c7 vertebrae
well its actually not. although it says so everywhere. i am a doctor and i got super confused when i first wanted to buy a backpack for backpacking a while ago.
the C7 vertebra is the first one you feel coming down from your head. you feel it best when tilting your head back. it is at least 3 inches higher than the point you would measure your torso length from. I have literally no idea which vertebra everyone is really referring to as i can feel each of my vertebrae in that section of my back when tilting my head forwards. there is no anatomical bump that everybody has. i wonder who started the C7 story and how it got to every backpack company's website without anybody ever correcting it.
Hi! I'm a tall hiker (6 feet 2) and have a backlength of about 20 inches. I have a backpack (Lowe Alpine Airzone Trail 25) with a back length of 18". It is a one size pack. Is it too small for me? Is this really that important considering you cant really fill it as heavy as a 65L pack?
Hey Eric, I bought a Bridger 55L, going by my torso and waist size. Torso being 51cm and waist 101cm, I went with a Large. Is this the right size? The Mystery Ranch size chart seems to think so. If not, I will have to change it.
EDIT: sorry, that's 52cm torso.
Thank you very much for this video. I have the same pack and the problem I’m having is near the end of your video with the comfort strap in the front. Mine is way up at my collarbone but in order to lower it I have to take it apart and I’m not sure how. Can you please help me with that.
Great video super helpful tips, thank you!
Any backpack brand or model suggestions for shoulder straps rubbing under arms ? I'm 6ft6 and cant find long enough padded straps.
Modify some camera bag/laptop strap pads onto your pack straps to sit where you need?
Extend your straps with another set in between the shoulder straps and where they connect to the bottom of the backpack?
Depending on the straps and adjustable buckles, that might require undoing the stitches from the bottom portion, just knotting them off in the short term, and then sewing them back after you're sure of the fit with your new extensions.
I'm sitting here at a Burger King, looking at my backpack, and considering just that, since this one likes to cut off the blood flow to my arms.
Is there anyway I can make my backpack still comfortable? I had recently purchased a backpack online which is unfortunately bigger than my size and the torso length is non adjustable. There's a slight gap between my shoulders and the strap on the outer side. Is there anything I can do to make my backpack still useful and comfortable?
I'm sure there are ways, but it might be easier to replace it with a better fitting one, whether through returning it, selling it, or trading it.
Quality backpack recommendations?
been really enjoying these videos! keep them coming!
Say what u may but that chest strap takes off at least a couple lbs 🤣 I can feel it lol. Great video btw love the vibes and content.
Thanks for vibin' with me!
Really helpful - thank you very much! 😊
Great video.. Greetings from Denmark.
Thank you so much and hello!
Hi! Nice video! Might I ask you to add some text to the video with Metric System when you talks about quality metrics in Imperial Systems. Your audience outside the US would be happy! I have to pause and convert pound to a units that peope usualy use ))
You're not the first person to ask this. I've tried incorporating that into my newer videos.
the chest strap brings the weight off your pecs which definitely helps lighten the load and make your bag less fatiguing.
Can you give me your guidance? I am a slender, small framed 5'5 woman with narrow sloping shoulders and my collarbone and the top bone of my rib cage are easily seen. I have been fitted several times (mostly for Osprey packs & a few Gregory) and for every pack I wear (about 35-38L), I feel pressure on the front of both shoulder straps, right below my collarbone. It is actually painful and I have tried everything... adjusting the size, the waist belt, all of the straps you have shown with a professional. I'm wondering if it is due to the fact that the Osprey pack has a different design (forgot what it's called) and my frame doesn't work with that. I don't sweat a lot so I'm fine with the pack being closer to my back if that's what I need. Can you recommend what other brands may work for me? I have already spent 6 hours at REI trying on packs so I want to try to do research at home before heading back again. This doesn't happen at all on my Osprey 20L but of course that is much lighter and I only put water & food in it. Thank you!
Hi Linda! Your experience is unfortunate, and typical of slender women. The backpacking industry has not done a great job of designing packs to properly fit the wonderful diversity of women's bodies. Gregory and Osprey tend to make packs that have a lot of padding on the straps, which typically means more comfort. But if that hasn't worked for you, I might suggest trying a different style altogether. Hyperlite and Granite Gear make minimalistic, lightweight packs that will sit differently than the Ospreys and Gregories and are geared towards ultralight backpackers. You might need to be on the aggressive side of pack-weight management and go really light in order to have a pleasant experience. Maybe try those, and let me know how it goes!
@@BackpackingTV Wow, thank you so much for your guidance! Our hiking trip will be from village to village anyway so I do not carry any camping gear. So those brands could very well work for me - I will check them out! I plan to carry about 18 pounds and I weigh 128, but I may be able to get that down to 15 pounds. Appreciate it!