The Vegan Cyclist VS Cameron Jeffers RACE UP ALP DU ZWIFT (A Zwift Race Breakdown)
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 6 ต.ค. 2024
- The Vegan Cyclist (me) and Cameron Jeffers went head to head up the alp du zwift climb on Zwift. We set up a public event and we got over 1,000 people to join in on the fun. In this zwift race cycling video, I breakdown how the race was won, show you power, heart-rate, and explain how it all happened.
Ok, that above paragraph was for SEO merit, this is the truth. Cameron hit me up a week ago with the idea of a heads up race. I really didnt want too because on paper Cam is WAY STRONGER THAN ME. But I cant just show the good stuff, my channel is much more about the everyday man with hella responsibilities trying to stay fit on the bike and compete.
So I agreed and hyped up what I thought was going to be a small event that I was gonna get crushed in. But then the event got really popular and people started taking sides and I had all these vegans wanting me show the V power and all of Camerons side wanted to see bacon shoved down my throat.
So I got real serious about it, tapered my training, and went FULL SEND. I had no intention on this being another flex video, and to be honest, a ton of other guys went way faster. Like here in this live stream of the race - • Cameron Jeffers vs. Ve...
But I did my best 40 min power I have EVER DONE. I usually crack under the pressure but this time I rose to the occasion. I had a small gap for the first 10 mins, he brought me back, and then we kinda played games for a bit. I recovered enough to respond to 2 attacks and then sent my one of my own. I went so deep that I still feel weird 8 hours later.
Zwift is legit dude, and its the future wether you like it or not. And I guess one thing I would like to say is plants wont kill you. I have made huge gains on the vegan diet and not that you have to go full vegan, but proper diet is a good thing. Either way bro, thank you for following this journey with me, cant wait to see where this goes dude.
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Bigger than Logan Paul vs KSI
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Better*
Well done to the both of you, no matter who won the race the ultimate winner is cycling!
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This was super cool. I watch both of you guys and honestly didn't really know who would win. The thing I like about you is you have this raw passion that is contagious. You always go full out 100% and we can tell, and it drives us to do that as well. Keep it up dude I look forward to watching a rematch (and the race from Cam's perspective) and my Kickr Core is showing up in like 5 days so I can't wait to get in there and see what I am made of!
I did the race with you (well, for a few hair pins until I had to back it off) and this was great fun. It is pretty crazy to think that almost a thousand people on a Wednesday thought this was a good idea and did it.
So crazy lol
You need a rematch where you both race from same point, also you should also use same kit in Zwift.
Great event to put on tho!
They did agree on a spot, it was at the base of the climb!!
You came with the strong mind game. Congratulations my dude. Just made eSport history. What a time to ride! 🤙🏻
Good work on the ride Ash! Vegans representing well!!
Ash--- you were on fire..well done.. VC-- you kick butt... congratulations.. I watched all videos...what an awesome e-race
Ash Beech Funny Vegan Cyclist Novelty T-Shirt www.amazon.com/dp/B07M7PJ1KS
"5.4w/kg for over an hour. Eaaaaaukhaaaay"🤣🤣🤣
That was Chris Froome.
That was the race winner's output not VC's. Winner looks legit.
+Requiredfields2 :
Yeah, the winner 18:27 looks so legit, that he was disqualified www.zwiftpower.com/events.php?zid=125848
+L. traveler :
I watched for the profiles of the the first four places, and none of them look legit (at this level of performance).
1st : disqualified.
2nd : Cevaz pending, not an elite competitor (not any proof of having finishing one), only a solid cyclosportive.
3rd : *EX* elite racer (typically below 5w/kg FTP anyway), now supposed to be below that, practicing at a hobby (264km a week during the year, last month 292km a week. Honorable, but nothing amazing.
4th : *EX* pro. And this isn't ping-pong : in cycling you have to maintain a consistant training to keep a high level of performance. Typically 220km a week during the last year, 255km a week during the last month. Honorable, but no way enough to be competitive. Note : now he has a business as a coach, and perhaps pretending to be strong without training consistantly can have some advantages...
Now, 5.4w/kg during 1 hour = 5.4w/kg FTP. And that represents 5.68w/kg for a 20' test (if you have a high level of endurance, which can't be the case with that few training they have : not enough volume). With a bad level of endurance (like they all must have, excepted Sean Vintin who has enough km), the gap is bigger between 20' and 1 hour test. But even if i'm tolerant, and I would consider they've a high level of endurance, 5.68w/kg for 20' is mid div. I/II pro, and the lower limit of world class. decaironmantraining.files.wordpress.com/2013/12/power-profiling-chart.gif
Typical Continental pro is 5.19w/kg for 20' (so 4.93w/kg FTP).
That's consistant with Jasper Verkuijl and Cameron Jeffers, who can ride at this level, and develop this power (Vegan Cyclist has probably not enough endurance to do so, even if his FTP is nearly enough).
Most of these zwifters are mythoman, even zava approved. You can be approved and cheat further : approved at 5w/kg (probably by cheating), then develop more, and with less effort. Or being zava approved when you're at your top (like when you're pro), then still be considered at this level after 2 years of stoping training like a pro (like from 800km a week to 250, and being considered to have the same level for life). I've checked several zava approved, and I can easy see they cheat : their cardio doesn't fit at what is possible (way too low comparing to their max power and max heart rate) + doesn't fit at what we see at CVR races and on their further results (lower cardio for the same power compared to what we could see on live videos).
Tyler said so many words in two syllables.
at a 154 HR...
do it in real life
And it's quite similar in the game, having done both I know what I'm talking about.
I'd donate to make it happen
Awesome ride, pleasure to ride with you (albeit at the back!!!). Well done to all that rode this event!
Pleasure you ride with you FastFitness Tips. 🙏🏻
Thanks for making this event epic.
@@Cameron_Jeffers Thanks to you for sportsmanship and talent in equal measure
@@lifeafterlon thanks same to you, and thanks for the livecast, I had it on whilst i did my ride, and it helped me visualise the finish just when I wanted to die!
Between “going in dark places” and “dying a thousand deaths”, a tremendous effort that was captivating. You’re an inspiration.
Awesome race. Saw it live on chris pitchard's channel. Good work all round
he knows it! ;)
Thank you Rob
"and everyone telling me that I need to eat a steak" hahahaha, awesome video mate!
he probably had a steak, stop fooling us :D
@@boomshine7 Yeah right.
Vegan loses - should eat meat.
Vegan wins - probably ate meat in secret.
Whatever dude, keep living in denial
Awesome ride and video and it was great riding with you on the final hairpin to the sprint line!!! 🌱🚲💪🏻
jesus, you're all monsters. and naw don't worry about the "flexing", I don't see him taking offense to it. you're all having fun, and its just friendly banter.
I remember the ftp test I took last summer , the final 10 seconds I was counting down like New Year’s Eve . That my mom came outside and thought that I was insane
I'm the type of guy who screams " fuck you" to the pc
Lmao, first FTP test I did, snot was running out of my face and I was almost crying it hurt so bad lol. It's crazy how long time drags on when you're suffering.
60 seconds to go. Looks down, grits teeth, pushes on for 20 seconds, looks up, 52 seconds to go.
press [G] to remove your power colors at the bottom so you can read the names and gaps clearly. the color bars are not of any use in a RACE - they are more of a hindrance.
This was so rad! You and Cam have made history! I know people are going to try to replicate what you two started, but you guys are the first! It was exciting to watch and even better to see how much sportsmanship you both have. Mad respect. Zwift will be getting a lot of new users with content like this. Looking forward to viewing the rematch.
Good job! If you ever do a rematch, have the race between Cam and you start at the bottom of the Alpe but still stick with the front group until then. It was a bummer to see Cam stop and wait for you because at this point you know the front pack won't stop. So you have to chose between racing the front guys or racing you. And you can't just compare times up the Alpe because you're not as fresh when you've raced from the start.
So I asked him a few days before the race what he wanted to do. He said chill ride to the alp climb. It wasn't a race from the gun, as we wanted to get the whole group to the climb if possible.
I even asked again in the staging before the start. He again said chill. So it sucked to see I was a minute down 10s into the ride. Next time we need a full in road race.
You & Cam may be onto something . . . both videos were damn entertaining. Would've been great to see them split screen. Kudos to you both!
Just wanted you to know that I was NOT feeling my indoor ride today, watched this and hearing you smash it made me lean into my workout. I came out of my apathy, gave it my all, thought of your mantra and PR'ed a hill I've been working on. Thanks for the motivation Vegan Cyclist!!!
Dude, congrats!! It has been so inspiring to follow your journey over the last couple of years. With your massive gains over the last year it would be cool to see what you've learned/changed in your approach to cycling since 2017. Maybe a three-part series w/ Nutrition, Recovery, and Training? :) Keep it up!
Its been a long time since i have been on your channel but man your fitness have gone through the roof in about a year... 😮😮🏁🏁👍👍
It has. I just did a crit where I held 350 for an hour. It's been a good year
14:04 I gave you a ride on just when you were spitting.
What a timing!!!
I think that not all of the viewers entered their true weight...
Big problem in Zwift... Only consolation: they betray themselves.
@@pureeschaap Seat sensors perhaps.
Cam was against it, but I was all for people weight doping so anyone at any level could be involved with the race.
The Vegan Cyclist you are one hell of a cool person who knows when it counts and doesn‘t take himself too serious. Keep on rocking👍🏻.
Definitely great riding from your side again 😜
Yeah it's basically like a family member running an ebike to keep up with us regular cyclists. I'm all for it. Let's everyone have fun with one another.
Excellent job, dude! Zwift events are a great idea. Now we just need to get an in-game VC cycling kit :)
You clearly could see that there was miscommunication at the beginning, and cam realized it that he mislead VC (not intentionally). I thought it was a true gesture of sportsmanship by cam but then it kinda got ruined with cam insta story saying "next time im not waiting"
It was a great race to watch, i was rooting for VC and I think he had all the good things on his side today, I'm not sure next time he will have all this: fitness, cam poor tactics, cam in no mans land (even with 1k people), motivation
I ask cam about the start 3 different times. One being on the start line. We were gonna have a nice group ride with everyone until alp du zwift. That was the plan
he did ride with the group, the front group. Great race though.
@@TheVCAdventures Dude, why would you think the group would just ride out at 150 watts. Of course the entire group was going to start riding hard.
@@ClockCutter I didnt care about the front of the group. It was Cam VS me and Cam and I had agreed via text to keep as big of a group as possible to the climb. The race WAS NOT from the gun, it was just the main climb. So I figured Cam and I would hang out in the meat of the group until the climb (as agreed apon, which I asked him and he is the one that said go chill till the climb). I think he just got caught up in the event and tried to stay with the front group. Eitherway, we will rematch from the gun.
Hey VC any chance of you coming over to Europe soon? A race up the real Alp D'Huez would be phenomenal!
One of the most entertaining cycling videos I've seen on TH-cam... I'm new to Zwift, but that just makes me want to unlock the road to the Alp asap. Chapeau to the both of you ...
Hilarious. You're trying to create an Instagram story near the end, where I'd be looking for a defibrillator. ;) Fantastic effort.
Awesome job from everyone. To do this at the beginning of Winter training is insane. Been to Cameron's site and watched this on the other dude ABeech's site as well. VC, now we need to come out to TEXAS and do HOTTERNHELL in August of this year.Great job gents!!!
Congratulations to you,Cameron,and everybody who put in the work on this climb 👏👌We have a small but active group of Zwifters in Hungary,but lots of us grabbed the mobile phone,launched the browser and our Discord was on fire during the event 👍
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Solid effort on the mountain 👏👏 I’ve watched both videos & u both went all out. Would be interesting if wahoo sent u both a kickr & a climb next time to race up alp de Zwift. 👍
Dude your commentary is so entertaining, it's hilarious at times. Great job and good win.
Excellent storytelling and editing. I watched Cam’s video and the quality of your video was shockingly better (considering he had a few other helpers too).
Congratulations VC. Good battle man. I definitely have to get in on this Zwift thing.
Vegan cyclist Vs durian rider?
Vegan Cyclist appears to be a much nicer guy, and much less jaded. He wins any comparison with D.R. in my book.
Ian Ffield Younger doesn’t equate to greater physical fitness. Younger rider might recover more quickly from hard efforts, but that is a completely different thing from being more fit. Doesn’t matter anyway. The original comment is silly.
@Ian Ffield That's good to hear from someone who knows him off-camera, because in his videos he often appears to be angry with the world and overly opinionated. Maybe it's all part of an online persona or something.
Dereck Warner Grow up.
@@prestachuck2867 I need to? Maybe you shouldn't care about what other people do unless they hurt or put your family in danger.
Dude, that is so awesome! I've been following you both for ages. Great race man. You both would have deserved to win.
Thanks Max
That was so epic! I was only able to follow you guys to the start of the climb but boy it was great to be there too!
Fun to watch my two fav TH-camr's going at it. I say we do it again. I wasn't about to participate this time. Maybe a more traditional road race instead of the Alpe? Super cool event!
@15:44 "there's this huge gap" -- random dude: "He's got a small gap" :D
Mad props to you both and everyone else who rode the event. Watching back your guys' efforts is super inspiring!
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18:44 I check half the people and most are listed between 130 to 136 pounds....Things that make you go Mmmmmm.
Really well done Tyler! Valiant effort! Great inspiration for the rest of us family men
Great ride lads, Cams a nice guy and will be gutted but will also acknowledge a brilliant effect from yourself. It's a great spring board for you to keep believing in what you are doing and can achieve, well done.
Great result and excellent video. I watched the event live on Casey Schumm's channel, after bottling out of participating!
Was Cam using power ups? I didn’t see if he was, but I kind of feel if you race just race on equal terms and don’t use that junk. Anyway well done, very respectable effort. Look forward to seeing how the rematch goes.
cam got caught by the classic group ride trap.
"nice chill group ride today"
Brain: *STAY WITH THE FRONT GROUP AT ALL COSTS*
Great seeing the two of you go at it...you are so genuine and open and you are just hilarious
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Well done, it would be good to see a rematch on an equal footing with similar equipment and no magic helmet boost bonuses.
I just watched Cams vid. Fair play ! Was a genuine race between the 2 of you. Cam actually graceful in defeat. 👍
I thought you had no chance, and that you were just a big fish in a small pond in your low population density area of California. You proved me so wrong, good one! :-) Epic race, this esports thing is great to watch in the winter.
I mean he has shown us his power through his whole journey. Did you not believe his numbers?
@@mitchellsteindler Yeah, I saw his numbers, but I've also been looking at other people's numbers. I'm saying I've been proven wrong, not trying to be down on Tyler, he did really well. You read my whole comment or just the first sentence?
@@plantfuelled8912 I dont see what the rest of your comment has to do with your original perception.
I am 100% in agreement lol. I was SOOOO worried about just getting shit on instantly, that it might make all my other accomplishments less...worthy I guess. I know what your saying and I went DEEEEEP to not let it happen
@@mitchellsteindler Cameron is a neo-pro. He's coached by Steve Lampier, who is a serious professional, from a country which currently produces some of the best riders in the world. Tyler is an excellent cat 1 rider in his 30's with family commitments from an area with much lower population density. On paper you'd expect Cameron to win, but such credit to Tyler his ability to go so deep is very impressive. It also shows how being vegan makes no difference to ability, or might even help your riding. I'm 100% proud of, and impressed by Tyler, nothing else. I really don't see your point Mitchell other than you seem to be unable to see things objectively.
I could see Ed Laverack riding to tempo, awesome rider for JLT Condor.
6:08 I was in the chat taking shit Hahahaha. I finished the climb in 50 min. Good riding VC.
The guy who won this did it in 55. Which e-bike were you riding? ;)
That was super. Well done VC. I'd love to see a rematch outdoors on the road!
Really great to watch mate from over in the UK,well done
There should of been more information about just racing the mountain... would of preferred that 👍 next hey lol 🙏 Anyway brilliant fun loved it, got do more of them .. many thanks for organising the event 👍👍👍👍
Just every now and then you smash it with some great content. I really enjoyed this 🤙🏻
Awesome to both of you, great to see you both made it a race.
You guys should meet up and do a ride together sometime along with Lawrence
Man! Tyler you communicate so well and I learned a ton.Great job.
funny to see those guys getting so excited and analyzing races that for a pro would be routines
Congrats to You, I enjoyed the race, even when I only finshed 230th or so... next time I hope to be able to stay the "warmup" in Your group :-)
How could You open this race for everyone? I want to have a up and down race at the Alp... every week on saturdays
Great effort, Tyler. I think that CJ made a mistake in agreeing to start off slowly, but getting caught up in the excitement of a fast start. Unfortunately, that creates lots of noise and debate, but you definitely worked hard and earned your win.
Congratulations!
Great job bro!!! I'm loving the zwift scene more and more as it continues to evolve. I don't have it due to the beautiful outdoors that we have hear in California. But, I may have to look into it... Maybe... Race season in three weeks away. 😎 Ride don't and smart in 2019. 🤙🏽yutttt
Fan of both of you, so even as a Englishman living close to Cam, I didn’t mind who won. Great race, made me think about rejoining Zwift, to join in the fun.
Better get back on for the rematch!
Good Job, Tyler. Fun to watch. I was at work, but my wife gave me play by play text to how the race was going. We were really looking forward to this video.
We also enjoy Cam’s channel!
That's amazing Jerry. Thanks for your support 👊
Cameron Jeffers watch your video over lunch, well done!
Thats was fantastic!!! 💚We need more of this. Great job Bro!!👍🤙💪
Its good that vc explaining the details in the game. Cause u know not everyone got a zwift.
Fantastic ride man. You guys are fun to watch and inspiring to keep pushing
Both riders brilliant race. So inspired that I bet myself before the race that I'd try a veggie diet for the next couple of months if VC won. So, the black beans are bubbling on the hob! Can't wait for the rematch with the mis-understandings ironed out . I got a feeling it might be the best of three! But once again, so inspiring!
Thats awesome to hear bro! My advice to maybe just add in more plants over time. No need to 100% cut out everything, but when you eat more plants, you will feel good, when you feel good, you will want to keep it going. By no time, you may very well be 95% plants. Which is a win in my book.
Concrats for winning. Nice race, watched both videos. Different perspectives. Thumbs up.
Fantastic!
Come over to Europe and try some Belgium Races
This was such a great event and I'm glad I was there. Please do it again!!!
It was so cool to watch the race live on pritchard´s channel and dying up the alpe at the same time! Congratulations, you both rode a very good race and remember, itˋs just a game! 😁🤙
Wow bruh, that was a sea of dudes. Way to smash that climb. Tried this same climb last week and it crushed me. Congrats.
This climb is no joke. I did it just spinning and it took me an hour and twenty minutes. Almost easier to smash and get it over with sooner lol.
I really think this was the event that led to Jeffers’ downfall. Made him want that Tron bike, got it by using an App, and that caught up to him. And no, he shouldn’t have been DQd; he won that race fair and square.
I watch both of your channels and thought Cam would win. Nice job Tyler, your fitness is amazing right now, esp for January. Gonna have a good season.
100% shouldn't have been able to put in that effort. 340 for 20min is where I am right now. But went so deep and squeezed the juice from my soul
Soooo good! Great sportsmanship from both of you, pushing pushing pushing. Thanks.
Thank you Craig 👊
No matter the result. Super duper dope effort from both of you guys. Good job.
That was so freaking fun yet so hard! Ready to do it again. Next time I won’t do a race before the event. 🤔
Way to go VC! This looked like so much fun! Proud of ya bruh!
great video and awesome effort . thumbs up for Tyler and Cameron ,Greetings from Italy !!!
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I didn't comment the first time I watched this but, I have to say well done! My guess is that you have a couple of years on Cameron. He seems to lead a pro rider lifestyle. He does not have two kids and a wife. All of those things are a handicap in performance. Yet you hung on to win! I am very impressed!
Al, I went so deep in this effort. I am confident that I achieved 100% of my current physical ability on this ride. I mean I went into a dark place for sure.
You should put together a 4-6 week “VC lockdown” group workouts on Zwift, like what GCN are doing. I’m sure that would be very popular, like your 100+1s . After all you the “one man” GCN, with the workouts you describe in your channel, include the “VC Epic workout”, that would be real killer indoors!
Steak or no steak, that was awesome for sure, my hands were sweating just watching lol :-)
Cycling is tops folks!!!
VC Kit for Zwift - Hell Yeah Let’s Go! I would loooooove to ride that kit on zwift 🙏
really cool race and video! I'm going to have to get into this zwift thing
YES TYLER!!!!! I TOLD YOU YOU HAD IT!!!
You did, but I didn't believe you 😁
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Great ride man...way to represent. Interested to see his video too. Can't wait to see the rematch...although you just gave him a ton of info (in this video) about how you were doing during the ride. With all his in the ear coaching and whatnot I'm guessing he's able to use that against you next time.
We'll see! Rematch should be really fun, my video is up now if you want to see my suffering.
1:07 I‘m in a VC Video! That was totally on my bucket list! 💪🏻
Brilliant race, in my eyes your both legends 👍 looking forward to the re-match 💪
Thanks Mark! 👊
No need to eat a steak, bruh. You've done awesome. Going from 300+ watts for 20 minutes to the same over 40 minutes is absolutely awesome. I'm late to the comments game, but you've done really good.
Huge congratulations VC! I must admit, on paper, I thought Cameron would smash it, so a brilliant effort and a great race by the both of you! Were there other Pro's riding in this race, some of the leaders watts per Kilo's were very impressive?
Im with you Tyler - Cam said to keep it chilled. Cant help but think the cyclinghub chaps should of laid down the rules. Great event tho...
great effort very impressive - you have supreme fitness bro; I'd almost consider buying an indoor trainer after watching this, .... almost. well done.
Man, you were "recovering" while doing between 4-5 watts/kg. Wow! Interesting video. Well done.
This was not a typical performance for me man, this was achieving 100% of my physical ability. But being able to recover under stress is very important. I recommend doing over under efforts to help your recovering ability.
Wow, I didn't realize how hype this race was! Great job VC and for Cam being a good sport about the race!
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Ukulele mike tutorial
Ed laverack just casually watching from the sidelines
What about a rematch, that’s the best time right now, isn’t it? I’ve seen another comment to bring Jasper in. Great idea!!!!
I’m down. Let’s get it going
@@TheVCAdventures want me to arrange everything? in an impartial country like Germany 🇩🇪?
Great race, although you looked well pikey in that padded gilet at the beginning. Just missing a Staffy on a piece of rope... 🤣
Looking for the rematch, include Ash and Durian with you.
But set a date so we can join.
Thanks for both of you.