I made some of this extract a couple years ago and a friend of mine from Mexico declared that it "probably wasnt even that hot" and instead of using the tip of a toothpick like I told him to, he poured it on his taco like hot sauce. Needless to say.....he took a trip to the ER that night.....
Thats funny. Bcz some people think they dont get hurt...cmon...its not that hot. Unless they try with their own tastebuds. I guess a lifetime experience.
This is due to ego and social pressure. He would probably do it with a toothpick when alone but had to show off ;) Nature has delivered yet another teachable moment. On the other hand, natural selection doesn't seem to be as efficient as it used to be ;)
Mexicans are notorious for their Macho attitude... a good thing since they are the only rescuers with enough balls to crawl under a building after collapse (from an earthquake).
@@tearsintherain6311 apparently whenever there is a natural disaster that causes a building collapse..The entire world has to wait on Mexicans to dig out....lol; dude wins idiot comment of the year award.
Nigel, just like you made bromine in your parent's garage recently, you should try going back & making some sort of extraction like this in their kitchen using basic kitchen tools & appliances😊 It would be fun to see another "vintage" NileRed video being remade years later.😁 I know you're slightly busy with the new lab and all, but maybe something to think about for the near future!😊
i just found your channel today, and i got to say that i am impressed, all the videos i have watched you have only used items anyone can get, and this makes me want to do more chemistry and different experiments. keep doing great stuff and i'll be sure to leave a like.
O H yes but it had a lower flash point and higher toxicity than ethanol and is more likely to form azeotropes during the extraction. Anhydrous ethanol is safer (less likely to flash) and less toxic than other polar solvents but will take a bit longer to evaporate
County For Questionism-Ball Yes, by about 10-1. You can reference the SDS for commercial preparations to get an idea of how the extract is blended and with what solvents. Don’t do this at home!
Looks like you did more than just "cook" those chiles. Overheating the chiles does decompose some of the capsaicin to vanillin, though I do not know the temperature rate or percentage, this can be smelled when frying chiles. For general reference limiting the oven to 300f or 150c for the majority of drying(about half the fresh weight) then reducing the temp by 75f or 30c for the last portion will prevent carmelization of the carbohydrates. Limiting temps to 150f or 65c should prevent gelatinization of most of the starches if you wish to control that variable. Proteins span a wide range but some can begin to denature at temps of 50c/120f. Fresh chiles are roughly 85% moisture by weight As a side note pure capsaicin melts around 62-65c and boils around 210-220c.
you can remove moisture using a dessicant like calcium chloride which is highly hygroscopic and pulls moisture at temperatures as low as 30 degrees celcius
I think I've found a better way to extract the capsaicin! You grind the fresh peppers up into a paste and mix the paste with an equal amount of table salt. Then, reflux with ethanol while stirring for a few hours. The salt makes the organic phase stay nice and separate from the aqueous phase, and each vesicle in the pepper can release its capsaicin better when the peppers are turned into a paste fresh. I like to pour off the mixture into a bottle and shake it vigorously a few times before returning to the heat. At the end, I pour the dark red organic phase into a fresh flask with a couple tablespoons of freshly baked anhydrous epsom salt and gently heat it for a couple hours to get rid of any water still emulsified in the mixture. Before this step, the mixture is dark but slightly cloudy with the remaining traces of the aqueous phase. After this step, the mixture is dark red and crystal clear, and a smelly white paste is left in the bottom of the flask. I haven't evaporated off the alcohol for the whole batch because I want to use it in this form, but when I did for a small amount, I got a thick red grease. It's very satisfying to see the pepper paste go from red to yellow while the alcohol turns dark red.
Two tips, Mg sulfate is only a good desiccant below 30c/85f (practically should be used much cooler) You would be better with gypsum. Just be aware it has a narrow temperature range for regenerating, too hot will permanently deactivate it, too cool won't release the moisture.
Oh my god... I thought the title said "How to extract Caprisuniods from Dr. Pepper at home" so I instaclicked it and was confused. Felt bad so i watched the video. hahaha nice video I learned a lot.
Perhaps you should take little less, or a little more drugs. If you're already on drugs, take less. If you're not on drugs, you should give them a try.
Oh my god. That moment when I just subscribed to you and I didn't realize you were the vid I followed 3 years ago for my science project. WHAT A SMALL WORLD THO.
Judging by caraline reaper pepper challeng videos, and how they will make you laugh your ass off, maybe the capsicum really is a joke, or rather the jokers who play with it.
Could you use ethanol as a solvent instead? As It's a less "industrial" and more "edible" type of solvent, if you get what I'm trying to say. For use in hot sauces.
If it got hot enough to burn, it also evaporated some of the capsan. Use lowest setting on oven or use a dehydrater. When removing acetone (or alcohol), a vaccum chamber would speed up drying. Also could use a distiller and get the acetone back (or ethyl alcohol, Vodka, Everclear. Water will dry out also).
I’m making some homemade capsaicin extract for an animal deterrent, is there a reason why you chose acetone over ethanol? I’m just using everclear and a couple pounds of dried chilis, it was super cheap and readily available. I’m wondering if there was a more efficient and cheaper method but I’m just using a super cheap budget cost me about $20 this way!
If y’all want to do this I’ve learned it works better to dry them on a grill on a low setting for a few hours if you have a grill. It’s just faster and because it’s not inside in the oven it doesn’t make your house feel like it’s filled with teargas
i made this and have a newfound respect for pepperspray and the humble chilli pepper,i used 96%etanol and next im going to use acetone it vaporizes faster.... Capsaicinoids are facinating,but not for playing hurts like hell..
I use a Soxhlet extractor and now and then sell a batch of mixed scorpion and ghost pepper Everclear extract on Ebay. The extractor lets you recycle the ethanol .
Years back during my misspent youth I used to do something similar with grass and ether, end product is a clear butter that I'd absorb into a pocket of rolling tobacco that when burned smelled nothing like the raw ingredient. The effect is much mellower but the fact that I could openly smoke it in the foyer before seeing a movie made up for its lack of potency.
We make tincture for tolerance building. Food grade alcohol is used, and the peppers used are rarely below ghost level heat. We also agitate for 3-6 months before filtering and evaporating by 50% before bottling
i found that if you want an extract this was a good procedure, if u want a crystal it is not. i was going to repeat with a water extraction as the red pigment should come out primarily in h20 but not the capsaicin , then repeat this procedure on water washed powder and it should be easyier to crystallise. worth a try
I would use Ethanol in stead of acetone. That has the Advantage, that you can use it maybe for cooking. But do not use spiritus you would taste it. Maybe you get a rum with 80% or something.
Hey.... really enjoyed your video !! However, I have a question. Once you have extracted the capsaicin from the seeds, how do you preserve it?? How long will this last in a container; days, weeks, months??. Thanks for the cool vid !! Ax
+Drew Goslin Everclear is only 70% alcohol. You'd have better results if you found something that was 95%, like Graves. I wouldn't bother spending extra for anhydrous ethanol, because it naturally absorbs moisture from the air and will self-dilute to 95% when not sealed.
+Drew Goslin Huh, you're right. I just checked and Wisconsin banned 95% Everclear a few years back. The hilarious thing is it did nothing but harm Everclear's sales, as other brands are still free to sell at 95%. Edit: Oh wait no it was just discussed, it didn't pass. Well for whatever reason it's still not on store shelves. Dunno what to tell ya.
This man is a public safety hazard, that stuff was like pure demon oil. Imagine just putting that on someone’s computer keyboard or something Jesus Christ.
the first time i got capsaicin in my eyes was horrible, it felt like my eye was on fire and i thought i would go blind. but then i learned that its actually not that dangerous just painful so the next few times it happaned wasnt actually that bad
Great! btw ethyl acetate might work fine too, it also evaporates faster and GRAS, so you can use it as food grade extract. ethyl acetate is used to give fruity flavors and present in wines
Acetone is toxic to ingest. Acetone was made to use this, but it is not in the capsaicin. This is safe to eat (Aside from the extreme heat of course). Acetone has a very high vapor pressure, which means 99.99% of it will evaporate off if you just let it sit at room temp long enough. If you add it to anything while cooking, all of it would definitely evaporate very quickly. This is how a volatile solvent works. Its the same as boiling water on a stove, if you let it sit long enough, all the water will leave the pan. It doesn't get absorbed into the pan, it evaporates lol
If you are using this for food, wouldn't high proof alcohol be better, than Acetone? I see other cooks using Everclear but I don't know what I am doing... so I am asking questions.
I'm trying to get chili oil to make a mayonnaise. The seeds are 20 % fat so I just used a crap ton of seeds and ate the flesh of the pepper in a taco. I'm currently soaking the seeds in 95% ethanol. I heard you need 99% + ethanol to extract capsaicin properly, but I'm mainly just trying to get oil so I think it should work fine. I like that you used a plastic funnel with acetone, acetone breaks down plastics so you ended up with a bunch of plastic in your extract. Acetone also has a lower LEL (2%) than ethanol (3%) so it's more dangerous to use.
@@Felix-do7ix nonsense, you need to be careful not to smoke or do anything to cause a spark, when I smoked weed I used this method to extract thc for years with no problem, you just need to remember you have highly flammable gas around you😁
@@againstallodds6508 the thing is you were only extracting a tiny bit off thc compared to the amount off capsaicinoids in a pepper so your butane would evaporate before it dissolves the capsaicin
“I was in a rush, and the furnace was too hot, witch cooked a little the peppers” Proceed to take out the peppers COMPLETELY black, this made me laugh ngl
Certainly not pure capsacin. The Syrup would be sugars. The dark red would be Beta-Caretene. One method to remove the sugars & many other impurities would be to wash the syrup with very cold water (refrigerated @ 4-8 degrees will do) Capsacin is virtually insoluble in the cold water whilst the sugars and other impurities would dissolve. Mixture would be shaken well, placed in the fridge or freezer until just over freezing point - then filter (probably keeping the entire filter process in the fridge) The Beta Carotene & other flavenoids would not be separated, but whatever remains on the filter paper can then be washed with 100% Ethanol and then left to evaporate. I used ethanol, so it can still be edible. (acetone certainly not a bright idea, but harder to get 100% "food grade" ethanol.) In this case - you may get crystals of pure capscain or at least make a powder/dry mixture (or crystals stained red)- not a sticky sugary messy syrup. (it is still red due to flavenoids/beta-carotene not being separated) However, I have tried this and consider it somewhat pointless (but fun chemistry) due to the loss of other complex flavors i.e - chilli's are best used FRESH !!! Doing this extraction just makes it extremely hot but not taste like food, more like a chemical burn. (I just used a pin head on my tongue - and its just a sharp pain, no not the pin head pricking my tongue - but hardly tell the difference if it was) I dont know how to separate the flavenoids/beta-carotene - any ideas ? One method would be via chromotography ? - but the hassle is far too great & quantities unreliable on a large scale. (although for those with an interest in chemisty, chromotography would be an interesting tool - you would get red, yellows and orange bands as various parts separate - however, another method is required to separate and grow PURE capsacin crystals ??? How ???.
I'd like to see this revisited with a soxelate extractor and ethanol. Also jolokia peppers are hotter, but not as accessable. Would be nkce to see if theres a way to remlve the beta-carritines.
the highest level of capsaicin is in cayenne powder 8x more than any chillies , chillies 500 - 1500 on.the scoville scale compared to cayenne's 30.000 - 50.000
I did this about a decade ago, but used isopropanol. I did some research on how much isopropanol you'd have to consume to start experiencing health issues, and it was a considerable amount, far more than the amount of capsaicin oil a normal person could consume. Since a few microliters is enough to feel the heat, I didn't think it would be worth it to spend the extra money on Everclear, and it's probably safer than using denatured ethanol. I did boil away the alcohol, and since alcohol fumes are rather flammable, it had to be a slow boil so the fumes didn't make their way to the flame.
@@eminusipi I don't know what country _that_ would be in, but certainly not here. The idea is to make it unpalatable: you take a swig, you puke it right up... if you can swallow it at all. People used to ethanol can swallow methyl alcohol without hardly even noticing. That's why so many are blinded, and even killed, by bootleg alcohol cut with cheap methanol. Governments aren't going to be party to culpable _homicide_ .
+Gon Freecs most of it evaporated , also if you add it to a sauce and cook it or heat it a bit the traces left will evaporate, there are plenty of solvents you can use but probably not so safe
+Javzael arson And acetone isn't all that toxic anyway. It's GRAS up to 5-8 mg/l, depending on what it's in. Might be worth determining the actual concentration left, I'm thinking haloform (can be done with household bleach) and then weighing the produced sodium acetate, perhaps supplemented with a titration, if you're sufficiently sure there's no other bases.
Javzael arson there's a difference between arguing that the dose is too low to matter and arguing that the stuff isn't really all that toxic anyway, but it is effectivelt the same of course. Thinking about it, how might various "non-toxic" volatile solvents stack up? Water would of course be number one if considered sufficiently volatile. Ethanol would surely come second, or would ethyl acetate? Is n-propanol more toxic than ethanol somehow? Is isopropanol more toxic than the acetone it is metabolized into? Maybe I should ask a toxicologist while I am rattling off questions you might not be interested in and I am not sure I really want answered.
actually if its from un-concentrated capsaicin its ok to get on your skin but not eyes, its very therapeutic to me the burn. Plus when i eat ghost pepper it really feels good to the throat and look at the bright side, it clears your sinuses and if you have stuffy nose after eating super hots your nose would be watery but clear.
I don’t know what the white residue in the filtration flask is but if you collect a sample and run it through a GC/MS you should be able to identify it.
I mean, technically you probably could. I think burning it though would destroy some of the capsaicinoids and also, you would need a way to put it out before you get too little solvent, otherwise you might burn your product. In general, I really don't suggest burning solvents to get rid of them. It is not only not very efficient, but dangerous to have a large volume of ignited solvent.
I can't help but wonder if any neighbors questioned the burning fumes coming from your home. A friend once dried chili peppers for sauce and I had to get out of the house. I could still pick up the smell away from the home so I'd figure a project like this would create a more concentrated effect.
It should be noted *use pure acetone, do an evaporation test on a glass plate and make sure no additives are in the acetone* Additives will be left behind on the plate, any white or other residue means it is not safe to consume, or use for pepper spray.
You should do a video on doing extractions on Kratom. I've read that an acid (vinegar) and ethanol extraction yield different results. I tried once, and it seemed to be ok, but I didn't use a high enough proof of ethanol (just 80 proof vodka) and I rushed my vinegar evap.
If using nearly ethanol instead, I guess it is necessary to boil it off (~80°C). The final solution will be "diluted" in the small amount of water in the ethanol solution I think and might precipitate.
does changing for ethanol require more time for extracting the liquid after the soaking? And how much was trapped at the bottom of that large 1st container in the heavy solids?
I'm planing to use the capsaicinoids I make for a homemade pepper spray, for self-defense. So, what is the best way to make this capsaicinoid to a pepper spray? Please help.
+First Last I have a video on that actually, but I don't think that is the best way. You need to pressurize it somehow in a smaller container. I'm not sure how to do that
Would pressurized cooking of the peppers in the alcohol achieve a similar result? Like, habeneros and everclear in a pressure-cooker? Never tried anything like that. Seems like it would either extract really fast or make a fireball out of a pressure cooker.
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I made some of this extract a couple years ago and a friend of mine from Mexico declared that it "probably wasnt even that hot" and instead of using the tip of a toothpick like I told him to, he poured it on his taco like hot sauce. Needless to say.....he took a trip to the ER that night.....
Thats funny. Bcz some people think they dont get hurt...cmon...its not that hot.
Unless they try with their own tastebuds.
I guess a lifetime experience.
This is due to ego and social pressure. He would probably do it with a toothpick when alone but had to show off ;) Nature has delivered yet another teachable moment. On the other hand, natural selection doesn't seem to be as efficient as it used to be ;)
Mexicans are notorious for their Macho attitude... a good thing since they are the only rescuers with enough balls to crawl under a building after collapse (from an earthquake).
@@rmx4087 wait y’all don’t do that in other countries?
@@tearsintherain6311 apparently whenever there is a natural disaster that causes a building collapse..The entire world has to wait on Mexicans to dig out....lol; dude wins idiot comment of the year award.
1:58 "The peppers did get cooked a little" 2:10 *literally scorched in a volcano*
Killing me
Darth Vader's skin.
It's funny whenever Nile Red is doing chem there are hardly mistakes and when it's food it's completely inedible
will the betacarotene improve my vision at night if i rub it in my eyes?
Lol finally a good comment to read.
of course it will
yes
It will also give you "heat" vision.
it will also give you some good effects like thermal vision
First time I've heard the sentence; "make sure it's crispy and crunchy" half-way through a chemistry instruction.
TheMrVengeance
Made me laugh
Best way to know if its crispy enoug his to taste it...
Don't open the blender until the dust settles or you will mace yourself!
Judging from experience, it will not mace you, but will provoke a long sneezing session.
Artem Borisovskiy them nose hairs saved your ass 👀
Thats part of the fun
*Will It Blend channel:* "Habanero dust...don't breathe that!"
I used a straw to snort it... Much more efficient delivery
"a little cooked" hahaha
Alexander Valera laughed so hard at that
Yeh that’s hilarious 😂💦💦
Yeh that’s hilarious 🍆💦💦
It's got beta-carotene? Must be good for the eyes.
+AnotherGlenn
Apply liberally.
+Maximus Minimus Ohgod
Hahaha
Beta CARROT ene
no ill leave
Well that how you get heat vision
The vision of a sun in your eyes burning them a way.
Nigel, just like you made bromine in your parent's garage recently, you should try going back & making some sort of extraction like this in their kitchen using basic kitchen tools & appliances😊 It would be fun to see another "vintage" NileRed video being remade years later.😁 I know you're slightly busy with the new lab and all, but maybe something to think about for the near future!😊
This aged well
@@camandthecrew5567 what are you even talking about😂
i just found your channel today, and i got to say that i am impressed, all the videos i have watched you have only used items anyone can get, and this makes me want to do more chemistry and different experiments. keep doing great stuff and i'll be sure to leave a like.
Making videos from home because university is out for the summer ? ;)
actually its because I don't work there anymore :(. my contract expired
@County For Questionism-Ball yes it's pretty strange, we are some special selected people XD
Psywriter this is strange
Strange indeed
@@ytivarg5371 im so late
I replaced the Acetone with Everclear (190 proof grain alcohol) purified with salt.
Doom2pro I love salt concentration
This makes more sense.
Update please
O H yes but it had a lower flash point and higher toxicity than ethanol and is more likely to form azeotropes during the extraction. Anhydrous ethanol is safer (less likely to flash) and less toxic than other polar solvents but will take a bit longer to evaporate
County For Questionism-Ball Yes, by about 10-1. You can reference the SDS for commercial preparations to get an idea of how the extract is blended and with what solvents. Don’t do this at home!
Sounds like a good recipe for some homemade justice.
Justice is a dish best served with a hot sauce?
Just what I was thinking. Make a bunch and spray it in rioters faces
@@thegreygamers8440 true. Our response to Molotov cocktails.
It's an awesome bug repellent for the garden. If potent enough it keeps the cats from shitting in your gardens too.
Does this method work with ricin @@NeonGen2000
I have those glass Voss bottles. I wiped the lettering off with a little mineral spirits and fine steel wool. they look great as just clear cylinders
Looks like you did more than just "cook" those chiles. Overheating the chiles does decompose some of the capsaicin to vanillin, though I do not know the temperature rate or percentage, this can be smelled when frying chiles.
For general reference limiting the oven to 300f or 150c for the majority of drying(about half the fresh weight) then reducing the temp by 75f or 30c for the last portion will prevent carmelization of the carbohydrates. Limiting temps to 150f or 65c should prevent gelatinization of most of the starches if you wish to control that variable. Proteins span a wide range but some can begin to denature at temps of 50c/120f. Fresh chiles are roughly 85% moisture by weight
As a side note pure capsaicin melts around 62-65c and boils around 210-220c.
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you can remove moisture using a dessicant like calcium chloride which is highly hygroscopic and pulls moisture at temperatures as low as 30 degrees celcius
Is there any way to recover calcium chloride? Like boiling?
I think I've found a better way to extract the capsaicin! You grind the fresh peppers up into a paste and mix the paste with an equal amount of table salt. Then, reflux with ethanol while stirring for a few hours. The salt makes the organic phase stay nice and separate from the aqueous phase, and each vesicle in the pepper can release its capsaicin better when the peppers are turned into a paste fresh. I like to pour off the mixture into a bottle and shake it vigorously a few times before returning to the heat.
At the end, I pour the dark red organic phase into a fresh flask with a couple tablespoons of freshly baked anhydrous epsom salt and gently heat it for a couple hours to get rid of any water still emulsified in the mixture. Before this step, the mixture is dark but slightly cloudy with the remaining traces of the aqueous phase. After this step, the mixture is dark red and crystal clear, and a smelly white paste is left in the bottom of the flask.
I haven't evaporated off the alcohol for the whole batch because I want to use it in this form, but when I did for a small amount, I got a thick red grease. It's very satisfying to see the pepper paste go from red to yellow while the alcohol turns dark red.
Could you please make a step by step instructional video for this?
About how much capcaicin would you say that you produced from one pepper?
@@julietteholzworth2198 this would vary vastly based off the type of pepper and size.
Any video for these procedures? Please help👍
Two tips, Mg sulfate is only a good desiccant below 30c/85f (practically should be used much cooler)
You would be better with gypsum. Just be aware it has a narrow temperature range for regenerating, too hot will permanently deactivate it, too cool won't release the moisture.
Oh my god... I thought the title said "How to extract Caprisuniods from Dr. Pepper at home" so I instaclicked it and was confused. Felt bad so i watched the video. hahaha nice video I learned a lot.
Perhaps you should take little less, or a little more drugs.
If you're already on drugs, take less.
If you're not on drugs, you should give them a try.
Oh my god. That moment when I just subscribed to you and I didn't realize you were the vid I followed 3 years ago for my science project. WHAT A SMALL WORLD THO.
capsicum: *creates substance to hurt who eat it*
humans: *eats it anyway*
capsicum: am I a joke to you?
Fabio Vieira capsaicin*
Capsaicin is the chemical that the peppers (capsicum spp.) produce, not the peppers themselves.
“Jokes on you im into that shit”
Not to mention foolish hoomans selectively breed hot peppers to get higher concentrations of capsaicin ;)
Judging by caraline reaper pepper challeng videos, and how they will make you laugh your ass off, maybe the capsicum really is a joke, or rather the jokers who play with it.
I feel so comfortable watching a similar clumsy human at work... 😊😊😊
The TH-cam algorithm has blessed me with a seven year old NileRed video
Could you use ethanol as a solvent instead? As It's a less "industrial" and more "edible" type of solvent, if you get what I'm trying to say. For use in hot sauces.
Gaming with Mikey! Yes
Both Acetone and Ethanol are polar solvets, so it doesnt matter. Ethanol works perfect
@@user-ft3jq5vi2l i Hope he's diluting it, a lot
If it got hot enough to burn, it also evaporated some of the capsan. Use lowest setting on oven or use a dehydrater. When removing acetone (or alcohol), a vaccum chamber would speed up drying. Also could use a distiller and get the acetone back (or ethyl alcohol, Vodka, Everclear. Water will dry out also).
Either way, GREAT VIDEO ! It was exactly what I was looking for I wish I had found it sooner . And your other ones were excellent as well.
+Maxamillion Headroom Thanks, I am glad i was able to help!
+Nile Red That was an abrupt ending. No further purification steps?
dropped the mic
Nope
He drunk it and now in the bathroom
I’m making some homemade capsaicin extract for an animal deterrent, is there a reason why you chose acetone over ethanol? I’m just using everclear and a couple pounds of dried chilis, it was super cheap and readily available.
I’m wondering if there was a more efficient and cheaper method but I’m just using a super cheap budget cost me about $20 this way!
where im from only 75% ethanol is legal so there would be tons of water which would be hard to evaporate
Acetone is safe for this experment
I'm trying to remember this for whenever I need revenge on someone
If y’all want to do this I’ve learned it works better to dry them on a grill on a low setting for a few hours if you have a grill. It’s just faster and because it’s not inside in the oven it doesn’t make your house feel like it’s filled with teargas
When you start cussing at your internet for freezing - only to realize that was just how the video ends.....🤦♀️
i made this and have a newfound respect for pepperspray and the humble chilli pepper,i used 96%etanol and next im going to use acetone it vaporizes faster.... Capsaicinoids are facinating,but not for playing hurts like hell..
You used acetone as solvent. Is this a safe method to use if you plan to use it as a base for a hot sauce? Is there a solvent which is safer to use?
Ethanol, Alcohol, Vodka
I use a Soxhlet extractor and now and then sell a batch of mixed scorpion and ghost pepper Everclear extract on Ebay. The extractor lets you recycle the ethanol .
Years back during my misspent youth I used to do something similar with grass and ether, end product is a clear butter that I'd absorb into a pocket of rolling tobacco that when burned smelled nothing like the raw ingredient. The effect is much mellower but the fact that I could openly smoke it in the foyer before seeing a movie made up for its lack of potency.
Interesting.
Fantastic video! This I searched for 😃...
However, do anyone know how to make a powder from this extract? Or is any video about it?
Love your channel bro!
We make tincture for tolerance building. Food grade alcohol is used, and the peppers used are rarely below ghost level heat. We also agitate for 3-6 months before filtering and evaporating by 50% before bottling
i found that if you want an extract this was a good procedure, if u want a crystal it is not. i was going to repeat with a water extraction as the red pigment should come out primarily in h20 but not the capsaicin , then repeat this procedure on water washed powder and it should be easyier to crystallise. worth a try
Does the acetone used here is the same acetone used for erasing nail polish?
Extract the stuff that makes poison oak itchy plz😘
can essential oils be extracted the same way?
I would use Ethanol in stead of acetone. That has the Advantage, that you can use it maybe for cooking. But do not use spiritus you would taste it. Maybe you get a rum with 80% or something.
Hey.... really enjoyed your video !! However, I have a question. Once you have extracted the capsaicin from the seeds, how do you preserve it?? How long will this last in a container; days, weeks, months??. Thanks for the cool vid !! Ax
Cap is not from seeds
Probably forever, at that point it's not really an organic thing anymore, just a chemical compound
I'm going to make this to spray on my lawn on deter dogs pooping on it.
It taste funny when using it as a hot pepper sauce. Do I have to use the acetone?
+nattsurfaren You should cooking it a bit before you use it to get rid of any remaining acetone. Or make it with ethanol (I recommend Everclear).
+Drew Goslin Everclear is only 70% alcohol. You'd have better results if you found something that was 95%, like Graves. I wouldn't bother spending extra for anhydrous ethanol, because it naturally absorbs moisture from the air and will self-dilute to 95% when not sealed.
+Adam Berry you can buy it in either 70 or 95 depending on the state.
+Drew Goslin but personally I use anhydrous isopropyl alcohol, a soxhlet and a cheese cloth covered cookie sheet.
+Drew Goslin Huh, you're right. I just checked and Wisconsin banned 95% Everclear a few years back. The hilarious thing is it did nothing but harm Everclear's sales, as other brands are still free to sell at 95%.
Edit: Oh wait no it was just discussed, it didn't pass. Well for whatever reason it's still not on store shelves. Dunno what to tell ya.
What you will also need: Protective eye wear
This man is a public safety hazard, that stuff was like pure demon oil.
Imagine just putting that on someone’s computer keyboard or something Jesus Christ.
the first time i got capsaicin in my eyes was horrible, it felt like my eye was on fire and i thought i would go blind. but then i learned that its actually not that dangerous just painful so the next few times it happaned wasnt actually that bad
Great! btw ethyl acetate might work fine too, it also evaporates faster and GRAS, so you can use it as food grade extract. ethyl acetate is used to give fruity flavors and present in wines
Thank you, God, for peppers.
I see that capsaicin is used as a pain reliever... makes sense
I think its because it destroys pain receptors
Acetone is toxic to ingest. Acetone was made to use this, but it is not in the capsaicin. This is safe to eat (Aside from the extreme heat of course). Acetone has a very high vapor pressure, which means 99.99% of it will evaporate off if you just let it sit at room temp long enough. If you add it to anything while cooking, all of it would definitely evaporate very quickly. This is how a volatile solvent works. Its the same as boiling water on a stove, if you let it sit long enough, all the water will leave the pan. It doesn't get absorbed into the pan, it evaporates lol
Some people just cant figure shit out I guess.
It's also not like you're gonna use more than a few mL of this stuff at a time
Andy I guess even a few drops are enough.
As the description says; "Using acetone is likely okay, but you never really know what contaminants there are in it."
Just a heads up, the faster you dry your peppers, the more heat the lose. Even in a dehydrator. In general, it is best to let them air dry.
Would it work to use a dehydrator instead of an oven?
If you are using this for food, wouldn't high proof alcohol be better, than Acetone? I see other cooks using Everclear but I don't know what I am doing... so I am asking questions.
I'm trying to get chili oil to make a mayonnaise. The seeds are 20 % fat so I just used a crap ton of seeds and ate the flesh of the pepper in a taco. I'm currently soaking the seeds in 95% ethanol. I heard you need 99% + ethanol to extract capsaicin properly, but I'm mainly just trying to get oil so I think it should work fine.
I like that you used a plastic funnel with acetone, acetone breaks down plastics so you ended up with a bunch of plastic in your extract. Acetone also has a lower LEL (2%) than ethanol (3%) so it's more dangerous to use.
Is acetone safe to use in a hot sauce?
have you find the answer to that?
Hottest ones possible? Carolina Reaper here I come!
+Ilovelazers trin scorps...
Reapers are hotter by a long shot
moruga scorps can be up to 2.5m scoville whilst reapers are only about 1.5m... learn your facts
+douchebag transvestite Reapers are an upwards of 3 million.
Look it up. They aren't haha
'Insoluble stuff precipitates out' but if it's precipitating, doesn't that mean it was dissolved, meaning its soluble?
Could you use butane, as a solvent? To extract it Iike extracting cannabinoids from cannabis?
I know I'm responding to a year old comment, but please don't do this this is how you burn a house down
@@Felix-do7ix nonsense, you need to be careful not to smoke or do anything to cause a spark, when I smoked weed I used this method to extract thc for years with no problem, you just need to remember you have highly flammable gas around you😁
@@againstallodds6508 the thing is you were only extracting a tiny bit off thc compared to the amount off capsaicinoids in a pepper so your butane would evaporate before it dissolves the capsaicin
@@Felix-do7ix I do agree, it is not a very advisable solvent to use especially if it is an edible product, works great for thc though
But still not impossible
So, if you want the product to be edible, what percentage of ethanol should you use? Would something like Everclear (~95% pure spirit) work?
I used ever clear and it worked fine
so.. what if i plan to eat it.. same process?
A Nile classic.
“I was in a rush, and the furnace was too hot, witch cooked a little the peppers”
Proceed to take out the peppers COMPLETELY black, this made me laugh ngl
hi can i use alcohol 99 isopropyl
Nop, but you can use ethanol
@@NikkMinn thank you
@@video4all100 ur welcome!
The way this video ended made me think my phone died.
Certainly not pure capsacin. The Syrup would be sugars. The dark red would be Beta-Caretene. One method to remove the sugars & many other impurities would be to wash the syrup with very cold water (refrigerated @ 4-8 degrees will do) Capsacin is virtually insoluble in the cold water whilst the sugars and other impurities would dissolve.
Mixture would be shaken well, placed in the fridge or freezer until just over freezing point - then filter (probably keeping the entire filter process in the fridge) The Beta Carotene & other flavenoids would not be separated, but whatever remains on the filter paper can then be washed with 100% Ethanol and then left to evaporate. I used ethanol, so it can still be edible. (acetone certainly not a bright idea, but harder to get 100% "food grade" ethanol.)
In this case - you may get crystals of pure capscain or at least make a powder/dry mixture (or crystals stained red)- not a sticky sugary messy syrup. (it is still red due to flavenoids/beta-carotene not being separated)
However, I have tried this and consider it somewhat pointless (but fun chemistry) due to the loss of other complex flavors i.e - chilli's are best used FRESH !!!
Doing this extraction just makes it extremely hot but not taste like food, more like a chemical burn. (I just used a pin head on my tongue - and its just a sharp pain, no not the pin head pricking my tongue - but hardly tell the difference if it was)
I dont know how to separate the flavenoids/beta-carotene - any ideas ? One method would be via chromotography ? - but the hassle is far too great & quantities unreliable on a large scale. (although for those with an interest in chemisty, chromotography would be an interesting tool - you would get red, yellows and orange bands as various parts separate - however, another method is required to separate and grow PURE capsacin crystals ??? How ???.
@nilered I'd love to see a revised version of this
I'm going to have to try this, as I have access to extremely hot peppers.
I'd like to see this revisited with a soxelate extractor and ethanol. Also jolokia peppers are hotter, but not as accessable. Would be nkce to see if theres a way to remlve the beta-carritines.
Thank you so much!
How can you use this?
Can I consume it and it not be hot??
I'm an instant fan!
does 96deg. ethanol work fine as well?
Yes it should, but your final product might contain a little bit of water, but 96% ethanol should evaporate azeotropically.
thank you
any organic solvent would do the job but best is if they edible or drinkable in this case :D
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Very nice video, cheers!
would piperine extraction be the same??
Why did you choosed acetone instead of methanol for polar solvent or gasoline for organic solvent ?
the highest level of capsaicin is in cayenne powder 8x more than any chillies , chillies 500 - 1500 on.the scoville scale compared to cayenne's 30.000 - 50.000
I did this about a decade ago, but used isopropanol. I did some research on how much isopropanol you'd have to consume to start experiencing health issues, and it was a considerable amount, far more than the amount of capsaicin oil a normal person could consume. Since a few microliters is enough to feel the heat, I didn't think it would be worth it to spend the extra money on Everclear, and it's probably safer than using denatured ethanol. I did boil away the alcohol, and since alcohol fumes are rather flammable, it had to be a slow boil so the fumes didn't make their way to the flame.
But can you use it in food if extracted with acetone? Could you do this with ethanol instead to make it food safe?
can i use denatured ethanol (93% ethanol) i don't know if its okay to digest it, a quick response would be helpful
***** ok thanks for the answer. have an awesome day
Denatured alcohol has methanol added to it to make it toxic to avoid a liquor tax. For a repellent it should be fine.
@@eminusipi
I don't know what country _that_ would be in, but certainly not here. The idea is to make it unpalatable: you take a swig, you puke it right up... if you can swallow it at all. People used to ethanol can swallow methyl alcohol without hardly even noticing. That's why so many are blinded, and even killed, by bootleg alcohol cut with cheap methanol. Governments aren't going to be party to culpable _homicide_ .
Is it safe to eat? with the acetone
+Gon Freecs most of it evaporated , also if you add it to a sauce and cook it or heat it a bit the traces left will evaporate, there are plenty of solvents you can use but probably not so safe
+Javzael arson
And acetone isn't all that toxic anyway. It's GRAS up to 5-8 mg/l, depending on what it's in. Might be worth determining the actual concentration left, I'm thinking haloform (can be done with household bleach) and then weighing the produced sodium acetate, perhaps supplemented with a titration, if you're sufficiently sure there's no other bases.
thats my point, anyway acetone is one of the least toxic volatile solvents
Javzael arson there's a difference between arguing that the dose is too low to matter and arguing that the stuff isn't really all that toxic anyway, but it is effectivelt the same of course.
Thinking about it, how might various "non-toxic" volatile solvents stack up? Water would of course be number one if considered sufficiently volatile. Ethanol would surely come second, or would ethyl acetate? Is n-propanol more toxic than ethanol somehow? Is isopropanol more toxic than the acetone it is metabolized into? Maybe I should ask a toxicologist while I am rattling off questions you might not be interested in and I am not sure I really want answered.
+Joseph Stalin Yea, if you want to poop lava.
😱😱😱 The potency of capsaicin is mind-blowing and rediculous
actually if its from un-concentrated capsaicin its ok to get on your skin but not eyes, its very therapeutic to me the burn. Plus when i eat ghost pepper it really feels good to the throat and look at the bright side, it clears your sinuses and if you have stuffy nose after eating super hots your nose would be watery but clear.
+okpapereat You've never had really bad hunan hands
lol no really the burns feels good... its a good high
I don’t know what the white residue in the filtration flask is but if you collect a sample and run it through a GC/MS you should be able to identify it.
Thanksgiving gonna be lit this year!
hi amazing thanks for sharing, can you advise how much this extract is need for 100 gm/ml final product medicated oil/cream
Only.025 to 0.75 gm in 100 ml
Mmmmm, acetone. Delicious.
If I used ethanol would it be possible to just burn the alcohol off instead of evaporating or would that affect the final product in anyway?
I mean, technically you probably could. I think burning it though would destroy some of the capsaicinoids and also, you would need a way to put it out before you get too little solvent, otherwise you might burn your product.
In general, I really don't suggest burning solvents to get rid of them. It is not only not very efficient, but dangerous to have a large volume of ignited solvent.
Ok thank you!
I can't help but wonder if any neighbors questioned the burning fumes coming from your home. A friend once dried chili peppers for sauce and I had to get out of the house. I could still pick up the smell away from the home so I'd figure a project like this would create a more concentrated effect.
Hi how did you get this type of ideas please tell?
Super interesting video`s ! keep up the good work :) i was wandering if the oil can be made colorless
+Maarten smit Well the color is due to beta carotene. If we were to separate it out, we would be left with powdered capsaicinoids.
That's in your next vid, right?
i think you can...use active carbon coal to suck out that color.
I wouldnt consume acetone no matter what, but for making pepper spray its great
It should be noted *use pure acetone, do an evaporation test on a glass plate and make sure no additives are in the acetone*
Additives will be left behind on the plate, any white or other residue means it is not safe to consume, or use for pepper spray.
This basically just makes pepper essential oil.. Great for oil diffusers!
This makes actually an extract. This is not oil.
My Carolina Reapers just sprouted. I should have the world's hottest peppers growing by summer. I may have to try this...
Mark Speir by the time I reply, you should have them! Enjoy 😉
So odd question. If I were to make this. If I wanted to make a 10% oil. Would it be as easy as adding in the appropriate amount of alternative oil?
You should do a video on doing extractions on Kratom. I've read that an acid (vinegar) and ethanol extraction yield different results.
I tried once, and it seemed to be ok, but I didn't use a high enough proof of ethanol (just 80 proof vodka) and I rushed my vinegar evap.
How many of y'all came here to know how to make Pepper Spray😂
nah i just watch nile red for fun
If using nearly ethanol instead, I guess it is necessary to boil it off (~80°C). The final solution will be "diluted" in the small amount of water in the ethanol solution I think and might precipitate.
does changing for ethanol require more time for extracting the liquid after the soaking? And how much was trapped at the bottom of that large 1st container in the heavy solids?
I'm planing to use the capsaicinoids I make for a homemade pepper spray, for self-defense. So, what is the best way to make this capsaicinoid to a pepper spray? Please help.
+First Last I have a video on that actually, but I don't think that is the best way. You need to pressurize it somehow in a smaller container. I'm not sure how to do that
Need to work more on that conclusion. Ended off without warning
Would pressurized cooking of the peppers in the alcohol achieve a similar result? Like, habeneros and everclear in a pressure-cooker? Never tried anything like that. Seems like it would either extract really fast or make a fireball out of a pressure cooker.