The Miami Orange Bowl was owned by the City of Miami, not the University of Miami, whose main campus is in Coral Gables. Look into the story of how the Marlins finagled their way into the site after a deal was in place to renovate the stadium. That deal completely soured the use of public funds on stadiums in South Florida for the next generation. Also, the lack of renovation is why the Dolphins left in the 80's.
Miami is reaping the consequences of their decision now with no one still giving a shit about the Marlins. Would have been way better to put that money into renovating the Orange Bowl. Would have cost less and been a better overall decision because it was a great home-field advantage for U of M. Hard Rock is not a college atmosphere and just doesn't work for the Canes.
So many locals had so many awesome memories in that building and on those grounds, me included. Many grown men cried the day it was demolished for Marlins Stadium. Thanks for this video. Great channel! I never thought I cared so much about stadiums until I found your channel! Keep up all the great content!
Main problem was the stadium was 100% owned by the City. UM simply had a lease there, as they now do at Hard Rock. With only 6 games a year, it drew very little revenue to the city to pay for any upkeep, as the school kept most revenue from game days. USC's stadium in LA has same problem, as city owns it. Nearly every school in the country owns their stadium on campus and can easily fundraise for it.
As a lifelong canes fan it always bothered me what they did to the O.B & I 100% agree that open end zone w/ the palm trees & scoreboard always looked so cool to me & really what's happened to college football in general over the last decade plus is really sad & pathetic w/ all the conference changing etc, etc it'll never be as great as it used to be.
Bro great job churning out the interesting content…I mean The Orange Bowl ! Palm tree backdrop was the most Beautiful in NFL history , and that “Astro turf” they had that would literally dry as you watched the games …
i live a few blocks away form the site and tearing the OB down is a crime! people should spend life in prison for this!!! the current baseball stadium that replaced the OB is an absolute eye sore, it is TERRIBLE in every single way.... a new stadium is not being built, the donor to fund it is on his way to prison which is on fitting for this program. refurbishing the OB doesn't stroke anyone's ego and that's all miami sports fans are... if it doesn't glorify their name they don't care, they'd rather spend that money being seen with players at fancy clubs
How sad,as a South Florida sports and concert fan all my old venues are gone,the o.b.,miami stadium, ft.lauderdale stadium, the sportatorium and the sunrise musical theater is now a church 😮
I've been watching a lot of the Miami games from the 80's and 90's this offseason. I hated seeing this piece of history get demolished! I wish the stadium could've been preserved somehow. It was huge mistake tearing this down and hurt Miami football in the end.
I still have hopes John Ruiz gets that stadium built at the Tropical Park site. Yes some locals don't want it there and are fighting the sale of the land. To me it would be one of the nicest stadiums in the country. It's also projected to be 65,000 not 55,000. Ruiz said he'll pay for it all privately.
Mayor Manny Diaz told me out of his mouth, that as long as he was Mayor of Miami, the Orange Bowl would be here! That was the lie he told me on the sideline!
The Orange Bowl wasn’t a campus stadium. It was closer than Sun Life to be sure but it’s not anywhere near UM. They were just renters of the City of Miami.
Inside the bowl section. Awesome college football experience. Go to the bathroom? God no. There was what? 4 bathrooms on the lower level? About as many concessions.
Orange Bowl is best known for the Don Shula 2 Super Bowl Championships. Miami Dolphins and the perfect 17-0 season. Also Dan Marino whole career. The U is a small private university. Not for sure what the donor wealth base is. I do remember Warren Sapp complain when he was with the Bucs about the U. He use to say every year the U comes to the pro alumni players and ask for money. At the time Michael Irvin, Sapp and others were making decent contributions. If they have rich alumni they are probably not contributing. The football programs seems to be getting by since the dominate 80's. Probably the main reason so many 3 to 5 star players have left southern Florida for other states. Through the years you look at almost any speed athlete at other Universities and they came from south Florida.
You obviously aren't from Miami because everything you said is BS. We all know the Orange Bowl from the Hurricanes not from the Dolphins. The Orange Bowl is where Miami set the NCAA record for longest home winning streak of 58 games that still stands today. It was always louder for big Miami Hurricanes games than any Dolphins game. Yes it was a piece of s*** but it was our piece of s*** especially after the Dolphins left in 86. However I am truly happy with the Hard Rock arrangement because they have made that stadium feel like our own whenever we play there we even have our own wing of the stadium dedicated to the school. Hats off to the Dolphins organization, They have shown us nothing but love And it makes it easily the best college/pro marriage in a stadium in the country unlike some other places like Pittsburgh.
@@ChrisWilliams-gw6qm I never said the Hurricanes had a disadvantage at the Orange Bowl. All I said is Dan Marino played more years and Joe Robbie, Hard Rock, whatever stadium than the Orange Bowl.
I've been to both many times. The OB doesn't even come close to Hard Rock as a football stadium. I prefer Hard Rock but the OB was a great place to be for Dolphins and Cane games way back when.
That rendering of a potential stadium at Tropical Park was horrible. Disgusting FLAT lower bowl with the first rows FAR away from the field. What is it with the anti-fan agenda in newer stadiums? It can feel like you're sitting in a parking lot having to look horizontally through a long distance to see the game. Want to see how close fans should be to the field? Check out Oklahoma State.
The truth isn’t that the University of Miami is too far from campus. A 45 minute drive is not that much time for a football game. Florida State has 50% of their fans travel more than 2 hours one way for football games. That is the farthest of any FBS Program. We have a new generation that is less interested in tailgating & actually going to games overall. FSU’s Doak Campbell Stadium actually has less official seating; which now is down to 79,000+. However, the Florida vs Florida State game last year was the most ever attended football game in Doak Campbell Stadium’s history. With an attendance of 87,000+ people at the game. Currently, FSU has lots of sky boxes & the Champions Club in the South End Zone. Which, allows FSU to put people & at the end of this (2023) season: The Westside Stands will be torn down & not available for the 2024 season. The Concourse will look extraordinarily different when the 2025 season starts & FSU will offer 5 different types of seatings in the stadium. FSU Westside would be more reflective of a NFL Stadium. The Eastside Stands will get a facelift & allow 2 more inches to each seat. The Concourse will change throughout the stadium to reflect the same changes in the underbelly to match the Westside concourse. Doak Campbell is a 75 years old Stadium. The official seating will drop to 70,000+, but that does not mean FSU will not be capable of exceeding 80,000+. There will be a Wow! Factor to the old girl. The Sky boxes will also see significant upgrades with unique changes to that South End Zone that had mass changes after the 2013 National Championship. FSU brought Morgan Chase in due to Seminole Boosters Inc. being brought into the Athletic Department. In 2021 FSU athletics generated $87 million before Conference & tv revenue is added. That revenue was not being completely tapped into & Morgan Chase will utilize their skills brining additional funds online. While financing the project that will be completely paid off in 5 years. There will not be a roof over the stadium, but the roof will be installed in the underbelly. 🏈
If the City of Miami Had atleast 20-30× More Surface Area Than it Currently does, U.M. Could Easily Build 90-110k Câpacity Stadium ! With No Problems or With No Traffic Issues . WHY! BECAUSE a City Like Miami Being Limited of Land and Set Around Water makes things Very Hard ! Miami is 55 Square Miles Surface Area 42nd Biggest City in the Country ! Had Miami Been about 350-380 Square Miles, They Could Build The Hurricanes a Massive Stadium With No Issues Around Miami-Dade County With No Problems,More Surface Area=More Land and Space Wider+Bigger Roads&Streets.
because refurbishing was no option? sure the hard rock stadium looks like shit but sometime its more suitable to run a new stadium instead of renovating the old one
You definitely need to research Miami’s infrastructure was horrible, the county owned the OB, and the local government didn’t send the money to renovate it and the Dolphins moved to Miami Gardens to own their own stadium only for the county to spend taxpayers money to build marlins stadium it’s was smart in the long run because traffic would be even worse than it is now.
Grew up in that place. The OB was truly magical
Definitely legendary!
Same my cousin played in the 80’s and my dad worked the concessions
😢😢😢
The Miami Orange Bowl was owned by the City of Miami, not the University of Miami, whose main campus is in Coral Gables. Look into the story of how the Marlins finagled their way into the site after a deal was in place to renovate the stadium.
That deal completely soured the use of public funds on stadiums in South Florida for the next generation.
Also, the lack of renovation is why the Dolphins left in the 80's.
Miami is reaping the consequences of their decision now with no one still giving a shit about the Marlins. Would have been way better to put that money into renovating the Orange Bowl. Would have cost less and been a better overall decision because it was a great home-field advantage for U of M. Hard Rock is not a college atmosphere and just doesn't work for the Canes.
@@TobiasSmith-u9bcorrect, but most people don’t know about the details that you mentioned
City of Miami should've rebuilt the Orange Bowl..💯
Such a Classic Stadium!
I wish they just rebuilt it exactly the same way ! I miss the canes playing here. What I would do to have it back. Hard rock doesn’t come close
So many locals had so many awesome memories in that building and on those grounds, me included. Many grown men cried the day it was demolished for Marlins Stadium. Thanks for this video. Great channel! I never thought I cared so much about stadiums until I found your channel! Keep up all the great content!
The City of Miami Welcomes You to the Orange Bowl.
I worked there for a couple of seasons. Miss the old lady.
Main problem was the stadium was 100% owned by the City. UM simply had a lease there, as they now do at Hard Rock. With only 6 games a year, it drew very little revenue to the city to pay for any upkeep, as the school kept most revenue from game days. USC's stadium in LA has same problem, as city owns it. Nearly every school in the country owns their stadium on campus and can easily fundraise for it.
My question is why didn’t UM buy the Orange Bowl from the city
@@brandonblanco8379The Orange Bowl was a dumpy old rust bucket. Renovations wouldn't have been worth it.
As a lifelong canes fan it always bothered me what they did to the O.B & I 100% agree that open end zone w/ the palm trees & scoreboard always looked so cool to me & really what's happened to college football in general over the last decade plus is really sad & pathetic w/ all the conference changing etc, etc it'll never be as great as it used to be.
The loudest, most rocking dump in all of college football. It's a mecca who should still be around.
R.I.P. to the OB!
If I were in charge I would've had a major renovation to it. It would be close to what some of the other classic college stadiums are.
Love the history lesson DG. Keep ‘em coming 🙂
So many great memories and games there! 🙌🏼
Bro great job churning out the interesting content…I mean The Orange Bowl !
Palm tree backdrop was the most Beautiful in NFL history , and that “Astro turf” they had that would literally dry as you watched the games …
i live a few blocks away form the site and tearing the OB down is a crime! people should spend life in prison for this!!! the current baseball stadium that replaced the OB is an absolute eye sore, it is TERRIBLE in every single way.... a new stadium is not being built, the donor to fund it is on his way to prison which is on fitting for this program. refurbishing the OB doesn't stroke anyone's ego and that's all miami sports fans are... if it doesn't glorify their name they don't care, they'd rather spend that money being seen with players at fancy clubs
The football program struggled because of rules violations and punishment from the NCAA. Not because of the stadium
The city messed that up
As a life 🧬 long Canes fan they ripped our hearts out for a f... Baseball field that Marlin's suck at baseball every since.
How sad,as a South Florida sports and concert fan all my old venues are gone,the o.b.,miami stadium, ft.lauderdale stadium, the sportatorium and the sunrise musical theater is now a church 😮
Black Sunday 1977 had the Goodyear blimp crash down on to the field.
Sun life is a soulless pile of steel and plastic.
And to think Bruce Dern almost wiped the place out with his Goodyear Blimp at Super Bowl 10.
In an alternate universe, the Marlins leave Miami and the Hurricanes get major overhaul of the Orange Bowl...
The Orange Bowl was also used as "Joe Robbie Stadium" in Ace Ventura: Pet Detective
I've been watching a lot of the Miami games from the 80's and 90's this offseason. I hated seeing this piece of history get demolished! I wish the stadium could've been preserved somehow. It was huge mistake tearing this down and hurt Miami football in the end.
No it didn't. Donna Shalala hurt Miami football. Had nothing to do with the stadium.
I grew up down the street from the OB lots of memories . The Marlins aint doing shit why not buy them out !
I still have hopes John Ruiz gets that stadium built at the Tropical Park site. Yes some locals don't want it there and are fighting the sale of the land. To me it would be one of the nicest stadiums in the country. It's also projected to be 65,000 not 55,000. Ruiz said he'll pay for it all privately.
They should have put that money towards a new football stadium. Because they'll sell out games better than baseball.
I would have tried to give this college football venue a massive overhaul.
And what powers or influence do you hold? lmao
Mayor Manny Diaz told me out of his mouth, that as long as he was Mayor of Miami, the Orange Bowl would be here!
That was the lie he told me on the sideline!
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305 Checkin in 🙌🏾
The next governor of Florida who pledges for a new football stadium for Miami will have my vote
The Orange Bowl wasn’t a campus stadium. It was closer than Sun Life to be sure but it’s not anywhere near UM. They were just renters of the City of Miami.
Miami orange Bowl damage from Hurricane Wilma in 2005
Hard to go to games when tickets are expensive
Dallas lost three SB's there. Good riddance.
The rock played for the Miami hurricanes and h’e played in the orange bowl
Problem is the stadium wasn't on campus even the orange bowl
Why couldn’t the city of Miami update the Orange Bowl to present day standards at the least?
Inside the bowl section. Awesome college football experience. Go to the bathroom? God no. There was what? 4 bathrooms on the lower level? About as many concessions.
Hard Rock was awesome for the canes in terms of aesthetics, orange seats etc
-Hard rock is too far for the students.
-marlins don't even get sold out attendance until they go to the playoffs, which they hardly do
Orange Bowl is best known for the Don Shula 2 Super Bowl Championships. Miami Dolphins and the perfect 17-0 season. Also Dan Marino whole career. The U is a small private university. Not for sure what the donor wealth base is. I do remember Warren Sapp complain when he was with the Bucs about the U. He use to say every year the U comes to the pro alumni players and ask for money. At the time Michael Irvin, Sapp and others were making decent contributions. If they have rich alumni they are probably not contributing. The football programs seems to be getting by since the dominate 80's. Probably the main reason so many 3 to 5 star players have left southern Florida for other states. Through the years you look at almost any speed athlete at other Universities and they came from south Florida.
Dan Marino played more years at Joe Robbie Stadium (as it was called when he played) then the Miami Orange Bowl.
You obviously aren't from Miami because everything you said is BS. We all know the Orange Bowl from the Hurricanes not from the Dolphins. The Orange Bowl is where Miami set the NCAA record for longest home winning streak of 58 games that still stands today. It was always louder for big Miami Hurricanes games than any Dolphins game. Yes it was a piece of s*** but it was our piece of s*** especially after the Dolphins left in 86. However I am truly happy with the Hard Rock arrangement because they have made that stadium feel like our own whenever we play there we even have our own wing of the stadium dedicated to the school. Hats off to the Dolphins organization, They have shown us nothing but love And it makes it easily the best college/pro marriage in a stadium in the country unlike some other places like Pittsburgh.
@@ChrisWilliams-gw6qm I never said the Hurricanes had a disadvantage at the Orange Bowl. All I said is Dan Marino played more years and Joe Robbie, Hard Rock, whatever stadium than the Orange Bowl.
@@mikevanriel7573 I wasn't replying to you, I agree with what you said homie.
@@mikevanriel7573 My comment was towards kenneththegolden
It was old. It made Soldier Field look good
You seem to hate hard rock yet you haven’t even been to it.
I've been to both many times. The OB doesn't even come close to Hard Rock as a football stadium. I prefer Hard Rock but the OB was a great place to be for Dolphins and Cane games way back when.
You know they are building a new stadium in coral gables right????
It had turned into a dump.
Games there were so fun!
With inflation and housing crisis the only way florida teams will get a stadium is private funding.
They built the baseball stadium for Marlins
No the downfall was when we got cheated out of back to back nattys in 02 😡🤬
That rendering of a potential stadium at Tropical Park was horrible. Disgusting FLAT lower bowl with the first rows FAR away from the field. What is it with the anti-fan agenda in newer stadiums? It can feel like you're sitting in a parking lot having to look horizontally through a long distance to see the game. Want to see how close fans should be to the field? Check out Oklahoma State.
The truth isn’t that the University of Miami is too far from campus. A 45 minute drive is not that much time for a football game. Florida State has 50% of their fans travel more than 2 hours one way for football games. That is the farthest of any FBS Program. We have a new generation that is less interested in tailgating & actually going to games overall. FSU’s Doak Campbell Stadium actually has less official seating; which now is down to 79,000+. However, the Florida vs Florida State game last year was the most ever attended football game in Doak Campbell Stadium’s history. With an attendance of 87,000+ people at the game. Currently, FSU has lots of sky boxes & the Champions Club in the South End Zone. Which, allows FSU to put people & at the end of this (2023) season: The Westside Stands will be torn down & not available for the 2024 season. The Concourse will look extraordinarily different when the 2025 season starts & FSU will offer 5 different types of seatings in the stadium. FSU Westside would be more reflective of a NFL Stadium. The Eastside Stands will get a facelift & allow 2 more inches to each seat. The Concourse will change throughout the stadium to reflect the same changes in the underbelly to match the Westside concourse. Doak Campbell is a 75 years old Stadium. The official seating will drop to 70,000+, but that does not mean FSU will not be capable of exceeding 80,000+. There will be a Wow! Factor to the old girl. The Sky boxes will also see significant upgrades with unique changes to that South End Zone that had mass changes after the 2013 National Championship. FSU brought Morgan Chase in due to Seminole Boosters Inc. being brought into the Athletic Department. In 2021 FSU athletics generated $87 million before Conference & tv revenue is added. That revenue was not being completely tapped into & Morgan Chase will utilize their skills brining additional funds online. While financing the project that will be completely paid off in 5 years. There will not be a roof over the stadium, but the roof will be installed in the underbelly. 🏈
Where Are Ventura started his search for snowflake
As i said for the last few years O.B. Should've just gotten Renuvated.
Not they play in a stadium owned by the Seminole casino
The Orange Bowl was the best!
If the City of Miami Had atleast 20-30× More Surface Area Than it Currently does, U.M. Could Easily Build 90-110k Câpacity Stadium ! With No Problems or With No Traffic Issues . WHY! BECAUSE a City Like Miami Being Limited of Land and Set Around Water makes things Very Hard ! Miami is 55 Square Miles Surface Area 42nd Biggest City in the Country ! Had Miami Been about 350-380 Square Miles, They Could Build The Hurricanes a Massive Stadium With No Issues Around Miami-Dade County With No Problems,More Surface Area=More Land and Space Wider+Bigger Roads&Streets.
because refurbishing was no option? sure the hard rock stadium looks like shit but sometime its more suitable to run a new stadium instead of renovating the old one
No parking
You definitely need to research Miami’s infrastructure was horrible, the county owned the OB, and the local government didn’t send the money to renovate it and the Dolphins moved to Miami Gardens to own their own stadium only for the county to spend taxpayers money to build marlins stadium it’s was smart in the long run because traffic would be even worse than it is now.