Wildlife Expert Reviews Extinct Ivory-Billed Woodpecker Photos

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  • We review a photo and video submission of an alleged Ivory-Billed Woodpecker.
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  • @cleverusername9369
    @cleverusername9369 ปีที่แล้ว +549

    This is a brilliant idea for a segment, boys. Please make this a regular thing, I really like the interactive aspect and encouraging people to get outside and pay more attention to the wildlife that's around us. Excellent stuff, gents, and good luck to bird watchers and cryptid "hunters", I know we'd all love to see a verifiable, authenticated image of an Ivory Billed Woodpecker or a thylacine.

    • @michaelhenderson2046
      @michaelhenderson2046 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Completely agree

    • @cleverusername9369
      @cleverusername9369 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@michaelhenderson2046 how lucky are we? I grew up watching and worshiping Steve Irwin, I'm sure he'd be extremely proud of what Forrest and the crew are doing. Getting the audience engaged, that's what it's all about!

    • @jacksonbickford4783
      @jacksonbickford4783 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Brilliantly brilliant my friend from across the pond.

    • @mjnelligan7288
      @mjnelligan7288 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I seen one yesterday ill try for a picture

    • @radioraffa
      @radioraffa ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Brilliant to get Views

  • @seandewar47
    @seandewar47 ปีที่แล้ว +265

    The thing everyone is overlooking is the Pileated woodpeckers do have white on their wings, it's just not as apparent as on Ivory-billed, who have predominantly white wings essentially, to the point where the white would be far more visible regardless of wing position. The woodpecker here has predominantly black wings with white stripes, stripes that would be hidden when the wings close. the white seems to go past the underarm below the neck, unlike the Ivory bill, where the white doesn't touch the underside at all. As much as I want to believe the Ivory-Billed Woodpecker is still alive, this is likely just an Pileted Woodpecker.

    • @Ledcow
      @Ledcow ปีที่แล้ว +26

      I agree. The white on the wings is not as significant as is should be for an IBW.

    • @jp05598
      @jp05598 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      But in the side by side comparison the only bird with a black crest is the ivory billed female and the bird in the photo has a black head…? What am I missing?

    • @RedFox04190
      @RedFox04190 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Got lucky to watch a pair of pileated woodpeckers through my rifle scope for a couple minutes while hunting😍. Awesome birds.

    • @logancraig8034
      @logancraig8034 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Yeah but male and female Pileated woodpeckers both have red covering the top of their heads which isn’t visible at all in these images and videos, but I do agree that there is so little white on this bird that it’s unlikely that it could be

    • @jp05598
      @jp05598 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@logancraig8034 doesn’t the bird in the photo appear to have a black head?

  • @hyfy-tr2jy
    @hyfy-tr2jy ปีที่แล้ว +47

    My call (former ornithologist here) is that it is a juvenile Pileated. Juveniles can have all sorts of wonky patterning of feathers especially when they are molting into adult plumage

    • @robs257
      @robs257 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      isnt it too big for a juvenile pileated?

    • @hockeyrd99
      @hockeyrd99 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@robs257 Waste of time comparing size. You can't tell how big it is from a photo like this.

    • @GisherJohn24
      @GisherJohn24 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I'm ignorant and new here. Is it possible it's a Hybrid? We'd have to confirm if they interbreed

  • @taylorkinchen3936
    @taylorkinchen3936 ปีที่แล้ว +125

    Like another commenter said, at 3:35 there is a clear picture of the back of the bird. Clearly a Pileated Woodpecker. An amazing bird in of itself, but not a Ivory-billed.

    • @brightonmerrell9114
      @brightonmerrell9114 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      i agree

    • @valdivia1234567
      @valdivia1234567 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yep, I regularly have Pileateds around my house and this is one.

    • @nikgaffron
      @nikgaffron ปีที่แล้ว +2

      agreed, 100% sure its a pileated.

  • @bloodredrobot2613
    @bloodredrobot2613 ปีที่แล้ว +158

    I want so much more of these segments, especially if theyre all as close as this one

  • @PeteQuad
    @PeteQuad ปีที่แล้ว +5

    It's amazing how these animals always know to go near people with crappy cameras, and never the thousands of dedicated birders with real photography equipment.

  • @azcardguy7825
    @azcardguy7825 ปีที่แล้ว +186

    I am an Ornithologist and the photos are extremely intriguing. I would love to get in contact with JJ somehow.

    • @HUNTERS_CRACKPIPE
      @HUNTERS_CRACKPIPE ปีที่แล้ว +30

      Hey there, JJ here. I'd love to help out with this!

    • @bray633
      @bray633 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I think I've actually seen one. My parents were stationed in Guantanamo Bay, Cuba back 87-89 and swear that was same woodpecker.

    • @scout3058
      @scout3058 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      ​@@HUNTERS_CRACKPIPEI moved out of Slidell two years ago. I saw one in Slidell, on Marina Dr in Eden Isles in 2020. I'll gladly show you on Google Earth the exact tree that it was in.

    • @MurderBong
      @MurderBong ปีที่แล้ว +4

      EXTINCT? THERE’S A FAM THAT LIVES ACROSS THE STREET FROM ME IN THE FOREST. WE CALL THE RED HEAD ‘WOODY’.. 3-4FT TALL WHEN HE WAS ON OUR STUMP 15FT FROM US ONE DAY. 😂 (ONTARIO CANADA)

    • @rt5arge
      @rt5arge ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@MurderBong You know there are two types that look nearly identical to the common eye? One thought to be extinct and one not? Takve vid/pics and send em in

  • @nickrighter7996
    @nickrighter7996 ปีที่แล้ว +48

    This is definitely a pileated woodpecker. I have a great video of a female that has gotten some light coloring in her wings with age. At a distance with a cellphone it would look more white when you tried to sharpen the image.

    • @eolsunder
      @eolsunder ปีที่แล้ว

      plus, i really didn't see any red that i expected.

    • @RipOffProductionsLLC
      @RipOffProductionsLLC ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@eolsunderwell, the red is a male only feature... but yeah, it is unclear.

  • @ThePseud0Legend
    @ThePseud0Legend ปีที่แล้ว +23

    Guys, PLEASE make each of these segments a public video. I LOVE this kinda stuff, and I’m sure everyone else does too!

  • @90skid97
    @90skid97 ปีที่แล้ว +52

    For some reason I thought somebody already had rediscovered it. Looks so majestic for a wooedpecker, almost like a stork bill and neck. Hope it gets found again some day

    • @Imugi007
      @Imugi007 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Alot of people think they've seen it. It's just so hard to get a good picture of it, and it's very easy to misidentify a pileated for an ivory billed.

    • @KDthunder2009
      @KDthunder2009 ปีที่แล้ว

      I thought so too because I just read an article about it like 4-5 days ago.

    • @davis4555
      @davis4555 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      People claimed to have fou d some in Arkansas back in 2004 or around that time. The photos were compelling and there were call-recordings. The issue was when ornithologists went out there, they couldn't find any trace. There was strong evidence, but no conclusive proof.

    • @earthsciteach
      @earthsciteach ปีที่แล้ว

      In the last couple of weeks I’ve been seeing reports that researchers from Penn State found one in Louisiana.

    • @Imugi007
      @Imugi007 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@earthsciteach if you're talking about the sightings from the National Aviary in Pittsburgh, it's bullshit. The pictures are so bad you can't see shit.

  • @shotbystoobot
    @shotbystoobot ปีที่แล้ว +19

    This is the best wild times segment yet, the almost candid discussion between the 3 of you guys is fantastic.
    More of this please

  • @danparish1344
    @danparish1344 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I saw a large pileated woodpecker once and I memorized exactly what the coloration of it’s wings looked like as it took flight, just in case I was miraculously witnessing an ivory billed.
    Pileated can actually become quite large and their coloring is so similar. Fade sightings will always be here, as long as pileated woodpeckers are around.

    • @danparish1344
      @danparish1344 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      *Fake sightings

  • @billiam6071
    @billiam6071 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    If you take a screen shot of the photo and zoom in as close as you can go, zoom in on where the white strip is going down it’s wing, you can actually kinda see a faint white stripe continuing down its body. The white stripe might actually be just covered up by it’s wing like Patrick said.

    • @actionmovieFXer
      @actionmovieFXer ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I agree in the side by side the pileated’s white part of the head ends quite abruptly. In the picture of the bird you can see a point in the white where there’s a corner and it changes direction to down the wing like the ivory billed

    • @billiam6071
      @billiam6071 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@actionmovieFXer yes exactly

    • @smokeymountainstoner2671
      @smokeymountainstoner2671 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@actionmovieFXerI was hoping someone else notices the difference in the white on their heads. I'm convinced

    • @billiam6071
      @billiam6071 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@smokeymountainstoner2671 yea I noticed that too, the pileated has a lot more white on its head and in this photo there isn’t much white on the head.

    • @jacobmeier19
      @jacobmeier19 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It’s important to remember that cell phone cameras (especially when using sharpening tools) lead to various shadows and light reflections that can make for a pretty convincing white color, in this case on the bird's primaries and shoulder

  • @ButterBallTheOpossum
    @ButterBallTheOpossum ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Those AI image enhancers aren't admissible in court because they add pixels that aren't there in the original photo. The software works by basically guessing what the surrounding pixels should look like and adds them

    • @deaj8450
      @deaj8450 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You would think so but I've seen AI enhanced images get put into court despite that. In the Rittenhouse case specifically, and the defense made the same argument you did. The judge didn't understand or didn't care.

  • @toddwebb7521
    @toddwebb7521 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Ok but if it asks for $3.50 it's not a woodpecker at all it's the Loch Ness monster

  • @DatBoiSammyP
    @DatBoiSammyP ปีที่แล้ว +32

    I live in the Ozarks of Arkansas a little south of the Buffalo River. My wife and I are about 95% certain we saw an ivory billed wood pecker on a tree on our front yard about 10 years ago.
    It was about the size of a big crow and had an ivory colored bill (obviously) as well as white running down the sides. It didn’t have a red head tho or if it did it wasn't really noticeable.
    It was pecking away at the tree until we pulled into the driveway, then it flew away and we've never seen it or a bird like it since.
    This is an extremely rural area, where the closest store is about a 30 minute drive so the fact that one hasn’t been found alive yet isn't a surprise at all.

    • @sualol101dlm
      @sualol101dlm ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you for caring for the Ozarks, one of the the best biomes in North America

    • @forkthepork
      @forkthepork ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The Buffalo is fun to run on a kayak, especially in early spring. We were down there in March, really cool cliffs and waterfalls.

  • @Sharauni
    @Sharauni ปีที่แล้ว +11

    They keep saying you can't see the beak but in the photos you can and it appears to be black. I think it would be amazing if the Ivory-bill was still alive, and it might be in very remote locations, but I honestly think it really is truly, sadly, extinct.

    • @dogtoddy
      @dogtoddy 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      The "very remote locations" aren't real. It sounds great as an idea, but if you really look, there aren't very remote locations that are appropriate habitat.

  • @zz-ko3fn
    @zz-ko3fn ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Guys you are really the best man! We literally have experiences how it is to look at some footage of any potential re-discoveries! Thank you! I hope we will see it every week! So exciting stuff

  • @zachverser9879
    @zachverser9879 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    I live in central Arkansas and after seeing the side by side comparison I’m sure I’ve seen a male ivory billed woodpecker when I was squirrel hunting maybe 10-15 years ago. This segment has made me want to start hiking again so I can try to find one of these

    • @basedkaren51
      @basedkaren51 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Do it, go out and search for the bird! 🦅

    • @dogtoddy
      @dogtoddy 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      10-15 years ago, you didn't know what you were looking at. Years later you look at some pictures and alter/overwrite your memory.

  • @mikefriend1514
    @mikefriend1514 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I’ve done enough birdwatching to know that only a great picture can help distinguish between certain types of birds and even then can be tricky. But there is a lack of the distinctive white on the lower wings which suggests its a Pileated Woodpecker. I didn’t know that Pileated is from the Latin ‘Pileatus’ meaning capped.

    • @keouine
      @keouine ปีที่แล้ว

      not just any cap. It's a pilea. a red conical cap. I think it was for freed slaves in Roman empire but I would check Wikipedia to verify. French Revolution re-introduced it .

  • @joshweaver4729
    @joshweaver4729 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    The supposedly found two back in probably like 2009 about 10 miles west of my childhood home in McCrory Arkansas. They shut down the entire wildlife refuge for 3 years because of it. Allegedly they found two during that time.

  • @kibaanddog
    @kibaanddog ปีที่แล้ว +2

    if you look at the side by side of the ivory billed and the piliated, the ivory billeds head has more of an upcurved and longer crest, and the pileated is shorter and more flat. the picture from the guy looks like the crest curves up to me, but i'm not a bird guy.

  • @wilbozz
    @wilbozz ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Not an ivory billed, but love this segment as a wildlife biologist, and one who catching raptors regularly for work.

  • @KendrickMan
    @KendrickMan ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I love this idea for community engagement!

  • @HaVoKhobo504
    @HaVoKhobo504 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I’m an avid angler down in South Louisiana, there’s a hefty reward for good info on this animal, a lot of people are looking out

    • @corydaigle1812
      @corydaigle1812 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      i just commented saying its down here. do u remember the news a few years ago when that guy had to be rescued out the lafitte preserve after getting lost following what he believed was the ivory? tons of people down here claim to have seen them after the reward was made public.

    • @HaVoKhobo504
      @HaVoKhobo504 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@corydaigle1812 I’m actually from lafitte but can’t recall the story. Personally I feel like I’ve seen them a handful of times in and around the Bayou Segnette state park, but I’m no ornithologist. We could all be confusing it with the similar bird but the next time I see one you can be sure I’ll pay close attention and take high quality pics

  • @jasonrbird5856
    @jasonrbird5856 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Such a great idea and fun to watch..Please do more of this it’s great entertainment and we can all learn stuff….Thank You

  • @hightide7662
    @hightide7662 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Good enough to go back and look for it

  • @metaloverdose
    @metaloverdose ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I feel incredibly inspired by this segment. I am determined to get a picture of the huge woodpecker that shows up in my backyard every spring so I can get a real good look at it. Its probably a pileated but it's fun to investigate.

    • @jacobmeier19
      @jacobmeier19 ปีที่แล้ว

      Pileateds are super cool too! They’re the largest (extant) woodpecker in North America

    • @metaloverdose
      @metaloverdose ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@jacobmeier19 I agree. They're definitely a sight to see. The sound of their pecking is incredible. It carries through the forest.

  • @ahmadnaser8192
    @ahmadnaser8192 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    What I think is that Jay Jay should now spend his entire days by that tree waiting for it to come back, with a better camera for sure.

  • @NickTheShark_
    @NickTheShark_ ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Keep doing more of these love the videos

  • @jacobroda1772
    @jacobroda1772 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This is the most intriguing 15 min of video I’ve ever watched lol I love watching you guys break this down

  • @fredhothotfred6288
    @fredhothotfred6288 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    it's a thylacine

    • @matthewwelsh294
      @matthewwelsh294 ปีที่แล้ว

      Oh really because I saw a bird not a freaking wolf like marsupial 😂 😂 😂 😂

    • @Oreosucka
      @Oreosucka 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      its a running joke on the podcast the guy isnt serious lol@@matthewwelsh294

  • @PlanetMojo
    @PlanetMojo ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wow! I'm going to have to bring my camera on my walks. We have a lot of pileated woodpeckers in the area (SW Wisconsin), and I believe they have the white stripes. I am probably mistaken, but hopefully I can get some pics.

    • @jacobmeier19
      @jacobmeier19 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Pileateds have white stripes going down their necks, as well as on the underside of their wings (in flight). I’d still definitely bring your camera to get photos of such a cool species!

    • @PlanetMojo
      @PlanetMojo ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@jacobmeier19 People who have cabins in the woods in this area need to put shutters on their windows because the Pileateds will break their windows during mating season. They see their reflection and attack it! They get pretty close (they will hide behind a tree and pop their head out) so I should be able to get some decent pix. 😊

  • @TheReviewest
    @TheReviewest ปีที่แล้ว +43

    Not all the female ivory billed have white fully on the back. It could be a genetic mutation or "morph" of a pileated. Certain mutations such as axanthic or anerythristic dampen the red pigmentation. Great segment guys!

    • @doogaloo5904
      @doogaloo5904 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I absolutely agree. Expression of color and patterns can vary for each species, but it is just as likely that in their photo, the woodpecker is tucking its wing counter-clockwise so we can only see a tiny strip of white. The band of white across the wing seals it for me that it is an ivory billed.

    • @seandewar47
      @seandewar47 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @horace sheffield In that same podcast he acknowledges he has to take claim like that with a grain of salt. he even used that "Dogs that play with thylacines" line as an example. Hate him all you like but don't take what he says out of context

    • @coreyhamby2989
      @coreyhamby2989 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      ​@@seandewar47He ne er said it was a friend that said that. He was mentioning it as an example like you said. He basically said he gets all kinds of stories like the guy that claims his dogs were playing with a thylacine. But it just so happened he was always either without a camera or it was "too dark" to take a picture.

    • @seandewar47
      @seandewar47 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@coreyhamby2989 i know, never mentioned the friend bit, that was the guy I was replying to. And the rest of your comments was more or less what my comments was saying

  • @trackman174
    @trackman174 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Several years ago a duck hunter here in Arkansas captured a ivory billed on video. The bird was flying away from him and the white markings on the wings were clearly visible. Several organizations did extensive search’s in the swampy area where it was videoed but couldn’t locate it. Arkansas has some very remote areas that are difficult to access. The Pileated is also a very elusive bird.

    • @hockeyrd99
      @hockeyrd99 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Pileated not at all elusive. Very common where I live in PA. In some areas they seem to follow you around.

  • @bundymccain2642
    @bundymccain2642 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Great segment idea. That was some pretty good footage but not clear enough to be definitive. I would keep a close lookout in that area though. I believe there have been other alleged sightings near there so, here's to hope.

    • @Just_shush_now
      @Just_shush_now ปีที่แล้ว

      It’s not even close to being an ivory billed… people don’t realise how much white is on the wing. It would not have black towards the tip of the wings… primaries would be fully white.
      In the pic it’s clear that the primaries are black. It’s a pileated. He’s an expert on animals but not on birds.

  • @leapfrogger2198
    @leapfrogger2198 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I think one of the most impactful things someone can do for American Ornithology is to buy everyone in southern Louisiana a decent camera

  • @jeffwindham9851
    @jeffwindham9851 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    This was awesome. I hope we get more of this content. As far as the Woodpecker is concerned. There doesn't seem to be any red on it's head. Im calling Ivory Bill.😊

  • @jethrolionheart182
    @jethrolionheart182 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    About a week few years ago before the news had found an ivory-billed woodpecker me and my friend was at a local Creek shooting birds with our shotguns and the ivory-billed woodpecker flew over I knew immediately it was something special and told my friend not to shoot

  • @jet110810
    @jet110810 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I absolutely love this as a segment gentlemen!! But for this one unfortunately I think we are missing white at the tip (bottom or end) of the wings no?? It seemed like the white would have been way more obvious at the tip of the feathers based on the comparison photos you showed. But I’m no expert at all!! Love this!!!

  • @chrismuratore7084
    @chrismuratore7084 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    There's a place I hunt that I see large woodpeckers. I didn't know about this Ivory bill woodpecker but now I'll start trying to get pics just in case!

  • @theflanman1986
    @theflanman1986 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Holy balls what a good capture

  • @willywonkabrah314
    @willywonkabrah314 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    INCREDIBLE CONTENT!! I'd watch a whole Playlist of this for hours on end.

  • @WongCharoen
    @WongCharoen ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I'm leaning towards a no-go on this one. Cautious optimism is always a good thing in the science world. Great fun, guys, keep it up 👍

  • @crashalexander7232
    @crashalexander7232 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have a remote hunting farm in southern AR about the same situation when i found what i believe was an ivory billed woodpecker living in my attic .no red head just jet black and white the space was an old loft area that we no longer use and she had one hell of a nest.....Did not think to get photos at the time until i got home here to WI and looked it up i shit bricks..... cant wait to see her again this fall and confirm with photos ... i should have put a trail cam up there to get her on cam.

  • @danielbush
    @danielbush ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I do not care about birds at all, and this was one of the more exciting podcast clips I’ve watched. Very excited for more of this series!!

  • @danielward2130
    @danielward2130 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    Unless it’s some weird morph, it’s not a Pileated. I don’t see a red head. After watching enough of Extinct or Alive I know to be skeptical as well. Can’t wait to see follow ups.

    • @firecracka94
      @firecracka94 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      It is at 9:23 you can see the dark red crest. It's darker due to the shadow. However, you can see the different shade. Or at least I can

    • @brandonvanleeuwen1832
      @brandonvanleeuwen1832 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@firecracka94 I'm pretty sure I see red as well

    • @andrewhelmer9721
      @andrewhelmer9721 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      The shadows can easily make the red head look black. I think this is a Pileated. It's interesting to see this, but I think we'd see way more white on the body if it was an ivory billed.

  • @Fumo-Deus
    @Fumo-Deus ปีที่แล้ว +1

    "and it's pecking" like bruh what. Even the other guys was like yea its a woodpecker that's what woodpeckers do. 😂😂

  • @Rg628-sd9oz
    @Rg628-sd9oz ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I feel like they missed the fact that the Pileated Woodpecker has more stripes on its face than the Ivory-Billed, and the stripe goes over the eye. Contrarily, the single stripe on the Ivory-Billed Woodpecker starts on the cheek. This looks like an Ivory-Billed Woodpecker to me! 👍

  • @davidwindell
    @davidwindell ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I think it’s literally impossible to tell either way. Odds would say that it’s pillared given the data we have suggests it could be either. Whichever it is, great idea for a segment.

  • @kevindefluri9273
    @kevindefluri9273 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is definitely a series I would love to follow being able to hear thoughts and reasonings on alot of these mystery footage/photos

  • @GpetersonG
    @GpetersonG ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Hey guys, this is a great content idea. Might also be cool if you can scrub the meta-data off the pictures and what not so the guy who sent them to you is protected but then post the photos and stuff for us to see, who knows there might be a photographer watching who has a more advanced version of the rendering software.

    • @bbllaakkeeee
      @bbllaakkeeee ปีที่แล้ว

      I have pretty advanced software that I can use. Provided that the formatting isn’t severely compressed since this was taken with an iPhone

  • @jaketews938
    @jaketews938 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The fact that the beak blends into the shadows, is because it's black. The ivory bill would be bright and visible.

  • @alebubu101
    @alebubu101 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    What are the chances the Pileated and Ivory-billed bred together?

  • @WILD__THINGS
    @WILD__THINGS ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You know how many damn Pileateds I've seen hiking in The Everglades? I get all excited each time, hoping it's an Ivory.

  • @dachunde
    @dachunde ปีที่แล้ว +7

    In Struthers, Ohio is a deep lake called Lake Hamilton. It is 197 feet deep at its deepest. Growing up nearby, I did a lot of fishing there as a kid.
    I saw a lot of huge fish and turtles there, but one day, when I was 8 years old, I saw something I would never forget.
    Fishing in the backwaters there, I saw a huge turtle that was NOT a snapping turtle or a soft shell turtle. I would guess that on the smallest estimate, it was over 20 feet across, and it didn't have feet. Nor flippers. It had a weird combination of both. I watched it swim underwater from where I was sitting in crystal clear water.
    It was moving really fast, and it was green, yellow, and black. I would have thought that I was seeing things, but 30 years later. 2 years ago, I saw it again while I was driving by the lake. It was just the head, but it was enormous. I think that it could be a new species or possibly an extinct species that is not extinct. The lake is closed, and there's no trespassing signs everywhere. There is something huge there.

  • @laattardo
    @laattardo ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I get to enjoy pilliated (sorry for spelling) in my area all the time. I would love to see an ivory woodpecker show up. The only things that has me scratching my head is that cap looked very dark, not red at all. I've seen both the male and female pilliated and they both have distinct red caps.

    • @jamesa8851
      @jamesa8851 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I know the the easiest determining factor is a lack of red head.

    • @laattardo
      @laattardo ปีที่แล้ว

      @jamesa8851 I'm in the northeast and will never see an ivory bill even if they are miraculously making a come back and I sure as bleep hope so!

  • @parkerkleusch8453
    @parkerkleusch8453 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    God I hope this bird is still out there, i LOVE woodpeckers!

  • @hairiestwizard
    @hairiestwizard ปีที่แล้ว +1

    As someone who has spent serious time working in areas where they still could be alive, and has actively looked for them for years, thats a Pileated Woodpecker. Also I'd need to see a loose location of this sighting, as the IBW has a very specific havitat.
    I thought I heard a double knock once in 2019 after I waded out to an abandoned oil rig in Louisiana in duck waders where a local hunter had made a sighting. Spent hours looking and found no good evidence like peeled off bark.

  • @stupidminotaur9735
    @stupidminotaur9735 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Be warned the AI app thing might make the photos more similar to the present living bird.

  • @austinherrington7049
    @austinherrington7049 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Bros
    You’ve been talking about this forever. Put something together. It’s close, you believe they might still be out there. It’s a trip to another US state, some cameras, etc. it’ll cost you $10k tops to do a TH-cam special hunting the thing.
    This is close enough to check out. Monetize the video, but try to do a TH-cam thing. You’ve got friends making crazy money on TH-cam. Extinct-or-Alive-style TH-cam specials could be an awesome way to grow the channel. Shit, partner with Brave Wilderness. They do stuff like this all the time, I bet they’d be down to co-fund and cross-promote.

  • @FinalAffliction
    @FinalAffliction ปีที่แล้ว

    This was so cool. Imagine someone finds a dodo.

  • @NickTheShark_
    @NickTheShark_ ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I bet you that you will find some extinct animal doing this

  • @rticle15
    @rticle15 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This was a very interesting segment. I do think that scientifically, the default has to be Pileated until there is definitive evidence otherwise. If only those photos were a bit closer.

  • @Lostpoet24
    @Lostpoet24 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Clearly white on the wing and no red on the head

  • @steves6767
    @steves6767 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Uhg! Perfect example of why there are SO many false sightings of the Ivory Billed.

  • @scout3058
    @scout3058 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I moved out of Slidell LA 2 years ago, the exact area they had been to while looking for it on the show. I saw an Ivory Billed woodpecker in the tree next to my house on Marina Dr, in the Eden Isles neighborhood of Slidell, in 2020. I said this in a comment about a year ago and I was immediately ridiculed for saying so (not by Forest or his crew but by idiot internet know it alls).

  • @missourimongoose8858
    @missourimongoose8858 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I've started bringing my camera out walkin with me because I'm like 65% sure I saw one, my families land is next to over 5000 acres of wilderness that hasn't been touched since the 1940s and not many folks go there

  • @davemathis4215
    @davemathis4215 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    My great grandfather was born in 1879 and died in 1983 when I was about 12 years old he said that their were green parrots that was a big problem on their farm and all around the country he said when he was my age about 13 years old they all just disappeared like they never existed…. I remember he said everyone hated them because they would eat entire crops of apples and other fruit he said you couldn’t even pick one ripe strawberry because the green devils always got there first

  • @dcpack
    @dcpack ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I like how the "expert" is using information that can be learned in 5 minutes.

  • @SphenForTheWin
    @SphenForTheWin ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great stinking content idea. And thanks for the Louisana man for sending this in

  • @TucoDog-ho6fw
    @TucoDog-ho6fw หลายเดือนก่อน

    I got a real good look at a pair of Pileated woodpecker‘s in McCall Idaho which is 100 miles north of the capital city Boise. That is out of their range so I don’t know if they were lost or just exploring. It was a big deal for me because I always wanted to see some. They’re very large, so I can see how they would be mistaken for Ivory’s.

  • @Atreus21
    @Atreus21 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    That pattern on the bag of the ivory bill is so distinctive that it should have everyone looking for that, and not profile shots.

  • @karabothwell6120
    @karabothwell6120 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    As much as I want to believe this is an ivory-billed, I definitely think this is a pileated woodpecker. It's hard to tell because of the distance and image quality but I feel like you can see vaguely see red on its head, decreasing the chance it's an ivory-billed. Plus, I watched the video segment in slow-motion in which the woodpecker moves around a lot more and I am not seeing any prominent white on its wings that you would clearly see on the ivory-billed. Loved this segment though and I hope I'm proven wrong! :)

  • @66bigbuds
    @66bigbuds ปีที่แล้ว

    I have seen the Ivory billed wood pecker a few times in Mecosta County, Michigan. We also have the pilliated wood pecker.

  • @charlesmarshall2697
    @charlesmarshall2697 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The bill looks black. Not an Ivory Bill as much as I want it to be! There have been several reported sightings in Jasper and Hampton Counties in South Carolina as recently as 2023.We are investigating them now.

  • @davek4547
    @davek4547 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have a picture of this woodpecker on my phone. I’m going to send it to this guy.

  • @johnsducks9816
    @johnsducks9816 ปีที่แล้ว

    Good thing the zoom on phone cameras keeps getting better and better, soon people will actually be able to take good pictures of things like this

  • @hillbillyartscrafts4367
    @hillbillyartscrafts4367 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    how can you not tell thats a pileated woodpecker? like is everyone in that room blind LMAO

  • @Laserman99
    @Laserman99 ปีที่แล้ว

    Believe saw one this morning. It flew over me in Harbinger NC. Of course I did have my phone. It had white feathers on bottom of his black wings and looked smaller than Pilates we have here.

  • @AllenArt64
    @AllenArt64 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What I like about this image is that for the white on the head, the spike of white that goes across the head toward the bill does not appear to continue and extend under the eye and up to the bill or under the bill like it would on a pileated woodpecker and I'm seeing no red on the crest like I would on a female pileated. Conversely, if we were viewing the wing edge-on, you might also see some white on the underside of the front part of the wing, but you would on a pileated as well. Because white goes down the underside of the wings on both the ivory-billed and pileated (except on the latter it's only on the front part of the underwing and not the back also like on the ivory-billed), the white that appears to be at the bottom of this bird's wing does not convince me one way or the other. It's just too far away and too grainy and the two birds are too similar to identify which it is. Shame.

  • @xkingreaprx5710
    @xkingreaprx5710 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    masssssive fan and think this is such a great idea! i however do believe that is just a pileated woodpecker, if you get a pic of one and do side by side they are more comparable. the ivory beak would have had i feel a bit more white on them then this one did, which leads me to believe its a pileated and not ivory...none the less a great bird and awesome segment!

  • @dougsmith1622
    @dougsmith1622 ปีที่แล้ว

    I saw an ivory billed woodpecker about 35 years ago. I was camping at Beaver Bend State Park in Oklahoma. For two days I was hearing a carpenter occasionally hammering on a board. The hammering was always in two or three beats, the way I had been taught to drive a 16 penny nail. The weird thing was the hammering would come from different parts of the park. For two days I was looking for new cabin construction, but never found any. By the way, I grew up as a falconer, and had worked in the avian center of the Fort Worth Zoo, and was an avid bird student. On the third day, I was lying on my back on a picnic table in a tall dense forest looking into the tree tops, when a very large bird swooped from one tree to another directly above me. Woodpeckers have a swooping manner of flight. Unfortunately the sun was directly above me, so I only saw the bird’s black silhouette. The pileated woodpecker is large, but nowhere near the size of an ivory billed, and this was a very large bird with the very broad wings, and chiseled tail of a woodpecker. In my heart, I knew the bird was an ivory bill, but never allowed myself to truly believe it. Many years later, through the magic of the internet, I saw a historical film of an ivory billed woodpecker along with the sound of it’s pecking, and it very distinctly sounds like a carpenter hammering 16 penny nails in two or three strikes each. From that day I have known that it was an ivory bill. Beaver Bend is also quite near where the Dutch ornithologists team caught their disputed, but very convincing film of an ivory bill.

  • @allison0411
    @allison0411 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I don't mean to sound negative, but I simply had to comment because this video felt so unbelievably insulting. No one here is even remotely entitled to call themselves an expert in this field. It took me about half a nanosecond to tell this is a Pileated Woodpecker. ANYONE who birds can immediately tell that is a Pileated Woodpecker. This is absolutely insulting to the people that have spent YEARS in the Pearl River and other hard to access habitat trying to obtain pictures of this bird, and of the tiny bit they've been able to get, they have produced full research papers and multiple hours of documentary footage detailing why they believe the horrible photos they've gotten COULD show the bird. Please don't comment on this and call yourself an expert if you're not in this specific field. People put lots of work into trying to find this bird and claiming every blurry photo of a Pileated Woodpecker is the Ivory-bill is absolutely insulting to those actually researching it. It's good to encourage people to get out there and photograph wildlife, but no average person is ever going to encounter an Ivory-bill if they still exist, given their remote habitat and skittish behavior. Don't undermine the extensive hours and ridiculous field labor some of these researches have had to do by making the Ivory-bill hunt look like hunting bigfoot to birdwatchers, because this is clearly a Pileated Woodpecker and every actual birdwatcher will know that and immediately think other potential Ivory-bill photos are also people who don't know what they're doing. Respect for what you're trying to do, but please don't touch an issue like this that you know NOTHING about.

    • @nonothingnever
      @nonothingnever 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I agree that the bird in the picture is definitely a Pileated woodpecker. However, how can you claim that Ivory-bills were skittish birds when you have high quality photos from the 1930s showing an Ivory-bill woodpecker chilling on JJ Kuhn?

  • @user-fh1fv8lk2i
    @user-fh1fv8lk2i ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I thing it is an ivary-biled Woodpecker because if you see in the photo jj took at the head the white doesn't continue like a Pileated Woodpecker

  • @nathancottrill1363
    @nathancottrill1363 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ft Polk Louisiana…. May 2020. I was spending a month training there with my unit. We was way out in the sticks. I have seen one, and my fellow mates seen it as well. NO DOUBT BRO!

  • @KingofKarnies
    @KingofKarnies ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Love the new segment. I can't confirm the woodpecker. I'm an expert in people, former Paramedic, not animals and see an odd white marking not associated with either woodpecker. Honestly this picture is just proof of how little we know and much more research, amateur and professional, still needs to be done.

    • @larsonfamilyhouse
      @larsonfamilyhouse ปีที่แล้ว

      I feel like it’s a cross breed of the two! That was also the main thing I noticed and I’m a third generation birder:)

  • @michaelplurad8670
    @michaelplurad8670 ปีที่แล้ว

    “Can you go back to the photo before.” Imagine what you could accomplish with a dual monitor set up…

  • @JimJWalker
    @JimJWalker 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    If the video showed it in flight we would know for sure. Ivory-bills fly more like a hawk/eagle while a Pileated flies more in a thrusting/jolting up and down motion.

  • @applechomper6514
    @applechomper6514 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I know they only lived in Mexico, but the bird in the pictures and videos looks a lot like an Imperial woodpecker, which is also considered extinct as was very closely related to the ivory billed woodpecker

  • @shawnkangas7272
    @shawnkangas7272 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I agree with what pat said it looks like it’s wing is lifted up. I think it’s and ivory billed woodpecker. But maybe I’m just being hopeful.

  • @StarvieCarvie
    @StarvieCarvie ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I live in Central Louisiana. I have pictures of these birds from my back yard almost 5 years ago. I called a couple times to LWFG and they didn’t seem to care. So I forgot about it. When this story started circulating last week. I found the old phone with the pictures

  • @VTPSTTU
    @VTPSTTU ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I vote for Pileated Woodpecker. I'm not sure that what you are calling white on the wings is really feathers at all. I think it could be a very reflective leaf behind the bird.

  • @taylor9371
    @taylor9371 ปีที่แล้ว

    3:30 😂 "Can you go back to the actual one again Kyle" as they show a picture from the backside of the bird. Great video though!

  • @Vertabreaker3
    @Vertabreaker3 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is my new favorite segment. Fantastic idea! Great content. Great engagement!

  • @TheMrVikingGamer
    @TheMrVikingGamer ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I agree that it is most likely the pileated woodpecker. On another note this idea for a series is amazing to me.

  • @erictheplumber9516
    @erictheplumber9516 ปีที่แล้ว

    Legitimately this segment will cause viral wild times clips. Genius

  • @markchlan
    @markchlan ปีที่แล้ว

    Brilliant segment! This gets me excited as heck! Love watching y'all's reaction

  • @rev.jonathanwint6038
    @rev.jonathanwint6038 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    You should break the video down into stills then you can blow them up. I don't think it's the ivory but that would be the only way to actually know Conclusively

  • @arklat
    @arklat ปีที่แล้ว

    I saw an ivory bill in Brinkley, Arkansas.
    I never told anyone, because who would believe me?
    That was around 1998.
    I was travelling by myself on
    I 40, from Tennessee to California. I stopped to sleep a bit. It's tapping woke me up. I didn't realize I had parked on a pullout next to a swamp. It was on a tree, pretty close to my car. I got a real good look at it. It had a beige bill, not dark.
    Where I grew up n Southern California, we had a few different woodpeckers. And the red breasted woodpecker had red on it's head, but more than the one I saw.
    It also had like a white stripe going down from it's head, and down it's side.