MF#29 Roland AIRA system 1 Teardown & a look inside

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  • @VintageMusicGearTV
    @VintageMusicGearTV 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Great video had to fix a couple of non triggering keys on my system 1 very helpful, this is possibly Roland’s worst keyboard bed!

  • @StingrayOfficial
    @StingrayOfficial 10 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You are one of the first people to get their hands on one of these. Love the fact you tear it down, thanks!

  • @muzikman2008
    @muzikman2008 10 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great Videos on all the AIRA range Markus, man after my own heart :-) i too dismantled everything i had since a kid, curiosity is a wonderful learning tool, educational and worth the effort for its rewards... im now 50 and a technician for a specialist global leading cctv company and still find this stuff satisfyingly good! :-) Subscribed!! well done my friend, and your attitude is 1st class towards hosting & presenting these videos. Brilliant!

  • @Raku777
    @Raku777 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for sharing a "tear down" of the Roland System 1. I am looking forward to getting mine soon. While I prefer pure analog synths, I like their analog emulation. What it means for me is that I get polyphony at a much lower cost (at the cost of a very good monophonic pure analog synth). I like the idea of looking under the hood to see how good something is. It takes a discerning eye to know what to look for inside.

  • @jostein6581
    @jostein6581 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    Actually, the programmable arpeggiator on the SH-101 is called the sequencer. I´m excited to hear how close it matches the SH-101..

  • @artblack01
    @artblack01 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    seeing how the black keys and white keys fit together would be nice.

  • @tubical71
    @tubical71 10 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanx for this little look inside, Markus....As expected not much in it....No need to unsolder this copper shield, as it contains just some usual multipin dark black whatever. May it´s an FPGA or a roland made custom chipset.
    So no need to peek. I think, as this unit is slighly more powerful than the previous roland devices which you already opened, the chips need some more cooling so they done a little copper heatsink....

  • @CONCERTSEC
    @CONCERTSEC 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi Mark, very entertaining as always. Keep up the good work.
    Regards Nigel& Liz

  • @gushrecords106
    @gushrecords106 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    thank you for the info..my mc 707 faders have failed i'm having to send it back to roland i wonder if other pleople have had so trouble wither aira gear faders at all it would be good to know..

  • @spacebox303
    @spacebox303 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hoi markusfuller
    Thanks for this video And the video How to repair dead keys. with that video,s I manege to repair my system 1 key
    Great job and big Thanks
    Greets John

  • @mpingo91
    @mpingo91 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    How did you remove knobs from rotary pots and faders? All you had to do was pull them off? How to do it safely?

  • @KutayYavuzMusic
    @KutayYavuzMusic 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    If only system 1 had a sequencer.

  • @ubiquitousreverser
    @ubiquitousreverser 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Well I couldn't delete my original comment, but for anyone needing to disassemble the keybed the keys slide out once the screws on top of them are removed from a set of rubber covered prongs that the keys slide over when going into the keybed, you don't need to remove the 8 screws directly under the keybed to do this as I stated in my previous comment, to remove the panel just remove the 5 screws at the top lip, the 3 recessed screws after that, and the 10 screws at the bottom of the rear panel closest to you and the top panel will come up. It seems the key was sticking b/c there is a white grease on the rubber that is on the prongs that the keys slide over and I guess there was just a bit to much on the black key that it was causing it to stick. Other than that minor hiccup I love this synth and think it was a perfect swap from my Microkorg although it doesn't have some of the features that the MK has I like the way this sounds much better and I love having all of the controls at my command!

    • @Untilben
      @Untilben 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      HI, I have the same problem. SO you just pulled out some grease and key was fixed?

  • @SyntheticFuture
    @SyntheticFuture 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Funny how it seems like the keys could do velocity but they can't. Than again is the distance the keys can travel too short anyways. So tempted to replace the leds of mine with blue and purple onces but that is probably a load of work =/

  • @mCKENIC
    @mCKENIC 10 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks for another great video Markus! Looks like another really well put together bit of gear but (your gonna get sick of me making this comment) Im not a KB player. I like to make noises and twist knobs, If I have to, I'll use my MPK mini - please Roland can we have a desktop version?

    • @partypipip
      @partypipip 9 ปีที่แล้ว

      well theres plenty of ways to make noises and twist knobs on this, its perfect

  • @KamilKisiel
    @KamilKisiel 9 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I know this is an old video, but I thought I'd ask here anyway. I've seen a lot of mention (including here) that Roland's ACB is done using FPGA chips. Is there a source that verifies that fact somewhere? How do you know they are FPGAs and not more standard DSPs? I've searched the web but I can't find any specific mention of what kind of processing technology is used other than some people repeating that's in a FPGA....

    • @markusfuller
      @markusfuller  9 ปีที่แล้ว

      Kamil Kisiel Hi Kamil, the nature of the Aira systems is that they can be redesigned via software so that the keyboard can emulate another of the roland line of synthesisers. After you have made the circuit for the synth you cannot really change it after it has been shipped to the customer (yes you can use samples and some reprogramming of DSPs etc) However FPGA's (field programmable gate arrays) use basic logical building blocks and can be reprogrammed after you have shipped the product, This is how roland will keep on producing plug-out versions of synthesisers by reprogramming the Analog circuit behaviors of the building blocks of the FPGA's inside the System-, TB-3, TR-8 & VT-3. When I took the System-1 apart there were 2 FPGA's inside though I could not confirm the exact chip used as they were marked with rolands own unique chip numbers. Yamaha and hewlett-packard also uses some standard manufactured chips but have them marked with their own unique numbers which makes them difficult to identify.

    • @KamilKisiel
      @KamilKisiel 9 ปีที่แล้ว

      I guess my question is, how do we know they are in fact FPGAs being reprogrammed to have different circuit behaviours, and not DSPs which are just reprogrammed to emulate different analog circuits? I haven't been able to find any information about the specific technology used.

    • @markusfuller
      @markusfuller  9 ปีที่แล้ว

      I think the only way you will find out for sure is to contact Roland directly through their website, you never know someone may give you the answer. ?.

  • @tomadeney8860
    @tomadeney8860 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    My System 1 just lost power whilst I was playing. It completely fails to power up and is just dead. Have tried a reset - didn't work. Any thoughts appreciated

  • @andrewverran3498
    @andrewverran3498 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hi , I bought a System 1 off ebay yesterday and waiting for delivery...after watching this video you mentioned a slot that has the copper foil , is this for an SRX type slot for the SH101, I bought this primarily for the SH2 plug out.. I don't understand this copper shielded vacant slot inside.
    Thanks in advance.

    • @markusfuller
      @markusfuller  11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Hi Andrew, the copper was just for shielding, any of the plugouts for the System 1 are purely software downloadable into the machine and there are no extra boards that can be phisically plugged into the internal board. the slot inside is likely only used by roland at the time of manufacture for programming or testing the board. I wish I had kept mine as it was a great little synth. best wishes Marlus.

    • @andrewverran3498
      @andrewverran3498 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@markusfuller thanks for the reply.

  • @BernardBossonMagic
    @BernardBossonMagic 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hello, i bought a second, second hand, System-1 but a key plays with a little delay.
    You think I can open it and just clean the black sensor ?
    Is it easy to change the sensor if he is out of order ?

  • @caktalfraktal
    @caktalfraktal 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    One of my keys failed :( It engages when I press really hard; and sometimes will start working after a bit of repeatedly press the key. I'm going to try to clean it with the help of this video.

    • @wojtek6496
      @wojtek6496 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I had the same problem and I just glued a tiny plastic under the key. Now it works as all the other keys :)

    • @SIMIXnation
      @SIMIXnation 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hi man,I have your same problem..have u a picture to know which is the specific point you have glued the tiny plastic under the key?thanks in advance

  • @BasedFrequency
    @BasedFrequency 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    Try and see if GAK would lend you a Roland GAIA SH-01 ^_^ Would be real cool to see a teardown!

    • @markusfuller
      @markusfuller  9 ปีที่แล้ว

      +Louis-andré “Based Frequency” Rousseau Hello Unfortunately GAK don't lend me these items to tear down. I do have to buy them myself though I get a small bit of discount (sometimes).

  • @giancarlolabarbera3781
    @giancarlolabarbera3781 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi Mark, I have a Roland system 1, I need to change a LPF cutoff potentiometer cause it is broken, can you tell me the model of this potentiometer I should buy? Thanks in advance

  • @ArtMacabre197
    @ArtMacabre197 9 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I think an Alesis Andromeda A6 is built familiar to this Roland

    • @andrewverran3498
      @andrewverran3498 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ANDROMEDA A6 is my dream synth, not to many came to Australia..doh

  • @jandrokirkish6629
    @jandrokirkish6629 9 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Love the videos Markus. What intrigues me is the fact that the key bed shows two switches indicating velocity sensitivity yet the synthesizer does not respond to velocity from the built in keyboard. Is this a feature that may appear in a future update?

    • @markusfuller
      @markusfuller  9 ปีที่แล้ว

      +Jandro Kirkish Hi Jandro , No I doubt there will be an update for velocity on this keybed. maybe on the next roland system #? they will have a better keybed with velocity.

    • @jandrokirkish6629
      @jandrokirkish6629 9 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for your reply. The newest firmware update unlocked more patch memory (64 patches instead of 8) and added 6 new waveforms; this makes the system 1 a really powerful synth engine. The memory was already there, it just needed an update to make it accessible. I'm wondering in light of this something similar might happen with velocity. Did you ever look to see if, underneath the two pads, there are two actual switches, or just one? That would at least settle the question as to whether this lies within the realm of possibility.

    • @markusfuller
      @markusfuller  9 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Hi Jandro. Sorry I did not take the actual keyboard apart. Instead I sold my system-1 and bought the System-1m module instead. It just made me a little more room, its the same thing but without the keyboard and instead has CV gates etc. if you use a midi controller keyboard you can add the use of Velocity.

  • @HERUVIMIUM
    @HERUVIMIUM 10 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    4:46 "evil" laugh :)

  • @supertypoli3859
    @supertypoli3859 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hey.. can u Tell me what Poti i need to replace the Volume Poti?

  • @StingrayOfficial
    @StingrayOfficial 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    Question about grounding. Shouldn't you be grounded to the device, since the device itself isn't grounded? I have one of those wrist grounding things, now I am confused on how I should be using it. I assumed you grounded yourself to the device.

    • @StingrayOfficial
      @StingrayOfficial 10 ปีที่แล้ว

      I think I can see now, the mat you have is also grounded?

    • @markusfuller
      @markusfuller  10 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      StingrayVEVΟ Hi StingrayVEVO yes the blue mat is an antistatic mat also. you can never to too careful when the item is someone else's :-( Best wishes

  • @terrykelling5692
    @terrykelling5692 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi markus. ok. I have to replace some of the play buttons on mine and was just wondering if it's an easy job. I'm handy with a soldering iron.

    • @markusfuller
      @markusfuller  8 ปีที่แล้ว

      +Terry Kelling Hello Terry. Im not sure what type of buttons they are in the RM1x. they feel clicky as though they are small surface mount buttons and possibly the top play button will be a plastic part that just touches the actual button on the board. Im guessing they will be those small 5mm square units with the small black circle protruding from the top, if so they are easily available. though im only guessing at the moment.

    • @terrykelling5692
      @terrykelling5692 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hi markus. Ok thanks. Seeing as the unit is getting on for 30+ years old now and a couple of the play buttons (the non clicking ones) need replacing. Would it be prudent to replace the complete set of buttons. That's 27 soft touch playing switches + 45 panel button switches.?

  • @davidndidn
    @davidndidn 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi I just got mine and I wanted to ask if it comes with the USB cable for the computer, because mi didn´t have it... thanks

  • @SPAZZOID100
    @SPAZZOID100 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    The lack of a proper pitch wheel or joystick was a deal breaker for me. And 4 notes??

  • @Coolkeys2009
    @Coolkeys2009 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ok message understood. by the way those FPGA's are way more than processors running code, you can actually implement the hardware you're copying in the FPGA.

  • @andrewverran3498
    @andrewverran3498 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    anyone needing to repar the carbon pads of the key contacts , if worn out you can purchase a carbon glue type pen and "touch up" the problematic pads.. for more info on this you will have to peeps the comments in BMR STUDIOS "Roland MC909 Teardown"
    peaceFromOZ

  • @ubiquitousreverser
    @ubiquitousreverser 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you for the video, I do however have a question. I purchased this synth used and one of the black keys is sticking. I went to take it apart and I thought it was worth mentioning for anyone else who may have any future problems with the keybed that it seems you will need to remove all of the screws from the back side in order to disassemble the keybed as I can't seem to pull the keys up from the board after removing the screws on top of the keys inside. It seems to be interlocking with the underlying circuit board.

    • @8bitwiz_
      @8bitwiz_ 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I just got a used one and high E was dead. It took about two hours of fiddling to get it working. After the initial clean did nothing, I just left it turned on with the lid propped up. I had to clean under that dome at least three times before it worked. I would have gone nuts if I had to take it apart every time to get those keys out. It was a big help that I could leave the lid connected and lift only that small bit of the contact strip.
      Anyhow, the trouble with getting the white keys out is there is a metal lip at the bottom that the white keys bump against. You just have to gently prod them up over it as you pull them downward. They are in 3 pieces, CEGB, DFA, and black. Take out upper C first so you can get used to it, but I could take out just the high octave with the others still in place.
      Also I had to be careful putting back the four corner nipples of the contact strip, they have wide bell-ends on them and I had to poke around the edge of the hole with my unbent paper clip to carefully prod them in. If only one key is causing a problem, consider lifting just around that dome.

    • @stereodelay6601
      @stereodelay6601 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@8bitwiz_ Hi! I can’t seem to put back in the four rubber nipples on the edge of the strip. How did you do that exactly?

    • @andrewverran3498
      @andrewverran3498 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@stereodelay6601 i used a match stick and put a little vaseline Petroleum jelly on the 2 end rubber spikes , you have to be patient and continue to work them in perpendicular ..theyb are a PITA

  • @kielanlee7323
    @kielanlee7323 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    am I able to just plug the Roland AIRA system 1 into an amplifier without having to plug it into a computer? could I just take it out the box when it arrives and plug it straight into an amplifier and would it work?

    • @markusfuller
      @markusfuller  8 ปีที่แล้ว

      +Kielan Lee Hi Kielan. Yes the System-1 works straight from the box. linking to the computer is just for registering and loading the SH-101plug-out that you should get a card with the serial number in the box. but you do not have to use that as you can make your own sounds and save them directly in the system-1 without the need for a computer.

    • @kielanlee7323
      @kielanlee7323 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ok thank you for your reply, it really helps.

  • @terrykelling5692
    @terrykelling5692 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Have you done a tear down of the yamaha rm1x ?

    • @markusfuller
      @markusfuller  8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      +Terry Kelling Hi Terry. I do have the RM1x but have not had time to do a teardown yet. I am hoping to replace the floppy drive with a USB. It is on my list Im just trying to get spare time tome to make more video's as soon as i can. best wishes from Markus

  • @AlainHubert
    @AlainHubert 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    Anyway, even if you had taken off the copper cover, there is most probably an FPGA and a proprietary Roland DSP under there with numbers that don't tell you anything unless you're a Roland engineer.
    Synth technology hasn't evolved much since the year 2000 at Roland. This looks very much like the insides of their JP8000 VA synth from that era, granted with a much more compact PCB with less chips, but the technology is the same old virtual analog crap.

    • @markusfuller
      @markusfuller  10 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hi Alain. Im looking forward to the new series of Korg analog remakes. it can't be that difficult to machine and remake synthesisers in the good old analog style and Im sure there is a big market of people waiting to part with their money for something truly analog. time will tell.

    • @dvamateur
      @dvamateur 9 ปีที่แล้ว

      I'd far much prefer the JP-8000. In fact, let me look for one on eBay right now...

    • @SPAZZOID100
      @SPAZZOID100 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      Andrew Piatek i have one. It's nothing to write home about.

    • @dvamateur
      @dvamateur 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      James Reeno
      I thought you were talking about System-1. Then I would agree. JP-8000 is several leagues of higher class than the System-1. It's like Emulator II vs. Casio MT-series. I'd love to have the JP-8000. I saw one MINT once, didn't buy because of only 4-octave keyboard and no aftertouch. But seeing the products that are coming out nowadays, I want JP-8000 badly right now. It's incomparably better than anything Roland has currently on offer.

    • @AlainHubert
      @AlainHubert 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      Andrew Piatek You might want to consider the new Roland System-8. From what I've seen and heard so far, it might outshine the JP-8000.

  • @guitarvibe75
    @guitarvibe75 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    is there any way to replace the LEDs?

    • @markusfuller
      @markusfuller  8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yes you could replace the LEDS but they are very tiny surface mount LEDs

  • @dvamateur
    @dvamateur 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    5.5 lbs is quite a lot. I have a very hard time to drop 5.5 lbs.

    • @dvamateur
      @dvamateur 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      *****
      Rather unfriendly dimensions to me. I went to a lesbian bar once, ordered a soda, they spiked it up with very strong liquor. Then they asked me to leave. I am not into feminism since.

  • @THATHATSALLFOLKS
    @THATHATSALLFOLKS 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    now i know where to shove some felt so the damn keys don't clunk like a horse walking on concrete

  • @Rhythmicons
    @Rhythmicons 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    I was expecting valves also.

    • @tubical71
      @tubical71 10 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Are you kidding..?;) As one single tiny 12AX7 (ECC83) operating inside would be able to melt down this plastik green enclosure right away....

  • @MarcoAsam
    @MarcoAsam 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    Did Roland completely forgot about tuning in the AIRA series? I really don't understand this...... I want to tune the instrument itself and not using micro tuner 2.0 an doing pitch bend..... this is really sad.... I told the guys in Japan already..... lets see...

    • @MarcoAsam
      @MarcoAsam 10 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thx Alex I saw the update already. TB-3 also is tunable now. Thanks to the guys from Japan.

  • @telogic1
    @telogic1 10 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    theres no record sequence in the sh101 plug out

    • @markusfuller
      @markusfuller  10 ปีที่แล้ว

      I have tried to load the SH-101 but it seems logic 9 is not capable and i have to buy logic X. why I cannot just load it into the Aira keyboard directly is a mystery. I think Roland should sort this out as not everyone has the very latest DAW.

    • @telogic1
      @telogic1 10 ปีที่แล้ว

      I will see what's wrong i still have logic 9

    • @telogic1
      @telogic1 10 ปีที่แล้ว

      markusfuller hi mark load logic 9 in 64bit and the plugin will work .for some reason its the 32bit au not working??
      cheers
      terry

    • @markusfuller
      @markusfuller  10 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks Terry. I never thought of that. will have a go later today. Best wishes

    • @telogic1
      @telogic1 10 ปีที่แล้ว

      just checked the roland site and the plugin is only 64bit mac ,so thats the reason.

  • @cogsinister100
    @cogsinister100 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    How come i can only see this video in 240p ?

    • @markusfuller
      @markusfuller  10 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hi Neil. it was uploaded in HD720p I just watched it back again and there seems to be a few issues in quality. I will look into whats happening and contact TH-cam. sorry about that.

    • @cogsinister100
      @cogsinister100 10 ปีที่แล้ว

      markusfuller Daves latest video in the EEV blog about the multimeter teardown is doing the same thing, only options are auto and 240p, all other videos play in HD if i open them full screen, including your previous ones.

    • @markusfuller
      @markusfuller  10 ปีที่แล้ว

      Im not sure whats happening there. another person says he sees large pixels ?. whats going on here I do not know.

    • @cogsinister100
      @cogsinister100 10 ปีที่แล้ว

      markusfuller
      It's got me puzzled Markus.

    • @johnnybagwash2456
      @johnnybagwash2456 9 ปีที่แล้ว

      neil robinson probably never paid his electric bill on time, that can make the videos not play correctly (I read that on the internet so it must be true)

  • @sawlfo
    @sawlfo ปีที่แล้ว

    I cant for the life of mee, open mine, i unscrew everything but it still wont opme up!

  • @Timecop1983
    @Timecop1983 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wow, look what he took out of the box! A bunch of pixels! Or should i say he took some pixels out of a few other pixels?
    Very poor quality video, but i would like to have an Aira though!

    • @markusfuller
      @markusfuller  10 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I uploaded this in HD. I just watched it back and it does look HD but at some points it locks for a second or so. This is a fault at TH-cam. sorry the quality shows up bad to you Im not sure what is going on there.

  • @charliedronkers
    @charliedronkers 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    hahahaha I can't stop laughing

  • @johnp3541
    @johnp3541 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Roland system 1
    biggest scam ... after leaving it unused for a while now part of the keyboard does not work... the potentiometers are going crazy... and the repair is over 300€ by Roland... a damn scam

    • @stereodelay6601
      @stereodelay6601 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      It's very easy to repair. I had the same issue and was able to fix it by cleaning the contact below the rubber strip with alcohol.

    • @johnp3541
      @johnp3541 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@stereodelay6601 I did exactly that and it doesn't work, I will have to discard the machine... the cost of the fix is about the same as the price for a new one.

  • @CrankyPills
    @CrankyPills 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    Voided warranty. :)

  • @LFOVCF
    @LFOVCF 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    Crap keys, DEALBREAKER!