Does the string afterlength (the distance between the bridge to the tailpiece) matter? Some say it has to be the 1:6 ratio while others say that it is not as critical. Also, does the bridge feet always have to sit in the middle of the f- hole notches? Or is it more important to make the string length 69 cm, for example? Thanks for your help!
This was a literal lifesaver, one of the screws on the tailgut vibrated itself loose and started rattling Im pretty far out from the next luthier and the maker of my cello so i had to figure it out on my own
I am currently changing a violin tailpiece so great timing!!!. I am also curious about adjusting the tail gut lenth in order to get the angle over the bridge exactly perfect and the distance from the bridge to the tail piece one sixth (5.46 cm) of the active string lenth (32.8 cm). Great job on the video!!!!
Hi Edgar Russ, the tailgut "multifiber braided cable Bois d'harmonie hightech" really improves the sound of the Akusticus tailpiece? It comes with a steel one 🤔... Thank's a lot. Regards
Hi Mr.Russ I have a question.the distance ratio between bridge to tailpiece on violin was 1/6 of bridge to fingerboard nut. Is it also same on Cello and Viola?
Another great video Edgar! I think I have watched all of them now. You are so inspiring. I’m becoming curiously attracted to violin making. I never thought I’d be attracted to anything about the cello but playing it.
Thanks Kevin for your nice comment! Glad you love this. I am actually preparing a virtual violinmaking school. You might be one of my first students. Ha ha ha ha.... Edgar
Careful you can drop the SP easily. Getting it reset properly takes great skill and patience. Also proper adjustment of the tail gut length is critical to the set up.
I don´t have experience but for me the impact is far too dramatic. Obvious that everything is changing. And I doubt that it is always to the good. Edgar
Hey edgar, I was wondering if rib height on a cello would affect the sound of the instrument. my cello is a 73.5cm with shorter ribs, alot less than the average heightness of the ribs today.
Probably you cello would fit to be a percent 7/8. Anyhow too low rib height would slightly effect the sound volume. But to be 100% sure I would need to see your cello. If it is wide it might be a great sounding instrument anyway. all the best Edgar
Hi mr Russ, it was helpful but a video comparing how it sounded before and after would have been even better. thank you for sharing all these infos with us. When looking online there are very little tailpiece comparisons on the same cello... regards
Very important detail. Read the comment from Terry up here. It should be 1/6 of the empty string length of a violin or viola. On cello or bass it is less relevant but still gives room to play in case there are heavy wolf tones. all the best Edgar
@@EdgarRuss The 1/6 (~54.6 mm)is very important. But I was asking about the distance between the lower nut and end of the tailpiece (not the fine tuner side). Sorry, for confusion
Fantastic help, Edgar! You are a generous man. My stand-up bass had a snapped tail-gut and it's very hard to get the instrument to a luthier in NYC. So I did it myself - thanks to you!! Regards to you :)
Yes of course. Some tailpieces are definitely too long. Usually tailpieces fro violins are sold in long and short and the difference is about 5mm. I love to take always the shorter ones because give me the ability to adjust it without space restrictions. But what counts is actually the tone itself from the tailpiece it should be a very very low A tone of 220 Herz all the best Edgar
Edgar, what do you think about carbon fiber and Wittner tailpieces? Since these are synthetic materials, would these tailpieces enhance the projection of the cello like the Akustikus? I find the Akustikus one of the best in terms of sound, but I don't like its aesthetics; I find it too small and artificial to put on my cello.
It is an unfinished 1/2 size cello which I got started to finish for my daughter. But than I was late and I had to make a 3/4. Very well seasoned now! Damn time passes so quick. Do what you would like to do right now. all the best Edgar
I would like to have seen an explanation of adjusting the length of the tail gut as well.
Does the string afterlength (the distance between the bridge to the tailpiece) matter? Some say it has to be the 1:6 ratio while others say that it is not as critical. Also, does the bridge feet always have to sit in the middle of the f- hole notches? Or is it more important to make the string length 69 cm, for example? Thanks for your help!
This was a literal lifesaver, one of the screws on the tailgut vibrated itself loose and started rattling
Im pretty far out from the next luthier and the maker of my cello so i had to figure it out on my own
Dear Edgar, thank you for a great video ! What do you think about harp style tailpieces and carbon fiber tailpieces ? Thank you very much 🙂
I am currently changing a violin tailpiece
so great timing!!!. I am also curious about adjusting the tail gut lenth in order to get the angle over the bridge exactly perfect and the distance from the bridge to the tail piece one sixth (5.46 cm) of the active string lenth (32.8 cm).
Great job on the video!!!!
Very good!
all the best
Edgar
Hi Edgar Russ, the tailgut "multifiber braided cable Bois d'harmonie hightech" really improves the sound of the Akusticus tailpiece? It comes with a steel one 🤔... Thank's a lot. Regards
Hi Mr.Russ I have a question.the distance ratio between bridge to tailpiece on violin was 1/6 of bridge to fingerboard nut. Is it also same on Cello and Viola?
Another great video Edgar! I think I have watched all of them now. You are so inspiring. I’m becoming curiously attracted to violin making. I never thought I’d be attracted to anything about the cello but playing it.
Thanks Kevin for your nice comment!
Glad you love this.
I am actually preparing a virtual violinmaking school. You might be one of my first students.
Ha ha ha ha....
Edgar
Careful you can drop the SP easily. Getting it reset properly takes great skill and patience. Also proper adjustment of the tail gut length is critical to the set up.
That's correct!
all the best from Cremona
Edgar
Edgar, do you have experience with harp tailpiece? Or Zoran Marković tailpiece?
I don´t have experience but for me the impact is far too dramatic. Obvious that everything is changing. And I doubt that it is always to the good.
Edgar
Hey edgar, I was wondering if rib height on a cello would affect the sound of the instrument. my cello is a 73.5cm with shorter ribs, alot less than the average heightness of the ribs today.
Probably you cello would fit to be a percent 7/8.
Anyhow too low rib height would slightly effect the sound volume.
But to be 100% sure I would need to see your cello. If it is wide it might be a great sounding instrument anyway.
all the best
Edgar
Wishing you would show how adjust tail gut to get proper after length! Please share how!🙏🙏🙏
Hi mr Russ, it was helpful but a video comparing how it sounded before and after would have been even better. thank you for sharing all these infos with us. When looking online there are very little tailpiece comparisons on the same cello... regards
What About Adjusting the length of the tailpiece guts? I mean the distance between the end of the tailpiece to the lower nut?
Very important detail. Read the comment from Terry up here.
It should be 1/6 of the empty string length of a violin or viola.
On cello or bass it is less relevant but still gives room to play in case there are heavy wolf tones.
all the best
Edgar
@@EdgarRuss The 1/6 (~54.6 mm)is very important. But I was asking about the distance between the lower nut and end of the tailpiece (not the fine tuner side). Sorry, for confusion
HI MR. RUSS, COULD YOU COVER MAKING VIOLIN TAIL GUT FROM OX INTESTINES?
Fantastic help, Edgar! You are a generous man. My stand-up bass had a snapped tail-gut and it's very hard to get the instrument to a luthier in NYC. So I did it myself - thanks to you!! Regards to you :)
Hi. Does the tailpiece matter in matter of sound if it's cheep or expensive?
Is a shorter tailpiece better for a slightly small instrument?
Yes of course.
Some tailpieces are definitely too long. Usually tailpieces fro violins are sold in long and short and the difference is about 5mm. I love to take always the shorter ones because give me the ability to adjust it without space restrictions.
But what counts is actually the tone itself from the tailpiece it should be a very very low A tone of 220 Herz
all the best
Edgar
Edgar, what do you think about carbon fiber and Wittner tailpieces? Since these are synthetic materials, would these tailpieces enhance the projection of the cello like the Akustikus? I find the Akustikus one of the best in terms of sound, but I don't like its aesthetics; I find it too small and artificial to put on my cello.
Nice video! I have a question unrelated to it though: Is that a cello with no F holes you have on its side in the background?
I think it's the back of an unfinished one, if you mean later in the video on the left!
@@NoaLeighMaxwell Yeah, but the button is towards the wall, so the top is what's facing the camera. Looks like spruce as well, right?
That is the front of the cello, the piece that sticks out is often on the back.
It is an unfinished 1/2 size cello which I got started to finish for my daughter. But than I was late and I had to make a 3/4.
Very well seasoned now!
Damn time passes so quick.
Do what you would like to do right now.
all the best
Edgar
@@NoaLeighMaxwell Correct soft boy!