Hi I'm a german plumber... Bott is a very common van storage system here, but I never saw this one! Looks great to me 👌! Here in germany craftsman from many different professions use an extendable vise for the storage system, even the roofers or carpenters .. I haven't seen you do that very often over there! I need it every day, couldn't work without it...! Best craftsman greetings
I'm just a diyer and wood turner but my actual job is allll about workflow optimization and I can totally relate to limited time, so my obsession with maximizing efficiency has spilled over into hobbies... It's so true grouping tools and accessories... Rather than putting all drill bits together, putting bits for the press by the actual drill press whereas impact bits etc with their respective tools makes so much sense.
Wow… that system just makes the Pack Out system look ghetto. Reminds me of that Outkast song “so fresh and so clean”. That’s a complete 180 looks so freaking professional now!
Tool organisation/storage is 100% just as important as having the right tools for the job. A lot of older builders and tradesman still rock around with their makita bags from 10+ years ago, random stuff thrown in there. Every battery is flat and they’re constantly looking for bits and pieces. The simple addition of a modular box/drawer system and organisation drastically increases the time taken to compete jobs as well as the quality.
My ram promaster mat and 3 shelf kit and bulkhead divider was $7800 in 2017. And of course I modified it for sparky work. I made a rack to hold the rigid organizers and labeled those. Well before packout
Man I love keeping my tools organized. It's always odd to me to see videos where bits aren't kept with drills or nails aren't kept with nailers. Funny you mentioned move out day on jobs. Just cleaned out a job on the beach where we didn't have anywhere to park the work trailer but over time we ended up emptying most of it so we brought the trailer for the clean out and it's just so satisfying to put everything back in its place. I'm going to do a video soon and I'd love for you to check it out. I think you'd appreciate it. It doesn't look like those videos you see where the trailers look spit shined every day but that's what I love most about it. Very organized and clearly used for a lot of work. Has good sheet and trim stock storage. A miter saw that outfeeds to a router table that outfeeds to the table saw. Fridge, microwave, the works.
Great video Rob, and I have been lucky enough to have been fitting BOTT van storage systems for many years here in the UK👊As you rightly say, its great stuff and has clearly made working from your van much more organised😎We don't see many UK van tour/storage videos on TH-cam here as everyone is too worried about tool theft😩 Cheers mate
The systainers have always been better than the packout. The basic idea is to not have to move one thing to get to another. I’m always trying to lose weight, hate clutter. If it’s clean and neat and you keep it that way, it’s easier to stay disciplined before little messes get out of hand.
yo im not gonna lie,, ive been slowly buying up as many of the dewalt tstak drawers (1 n 2 shelves) as possible and organizing all my tools n shit.. i go w tstak cuz im working outta my truck, and these are the only Modular tool boxes that will fit in the back of my truck w space to open n access.. but anyway, i noticed 1) that it saves me like a good hour onna daily of digging thru pikes of rando tools and bags and boxes and buckets and all that. everything is labeled and accessible so i can grab what i need n be working within like 3 4 mins... vs the 20 mins it used to take me.,,, 2) it helped show me just how much shit i have in my kits,,, like i dont need 8 needlenose plies, i dont need to carry a full complete setup for painting for a 6 man team on the daily,, and as ive organized everything,, i can pick n choose boxes to pull out n leave at home if i wont need them.. but im not going to lie there are a few small downsides to it,, nothin wild but like , • every new lil tool, be it a 8 pc 3/8 hex allen key socket set, or a new cordless flood light,,, every tool i get means ive got to go thru and reorganize a good portion of my entire setup. which isnt necessarily bad,,, i like it too , but whos got time to keep switching up n updating the setup.. (plus moving things around constantly, u forget whats where) • And the most consequential time consuming aggravating issue is , PUTTING EVERYTHING BACK IN ITS PROPER PLACE!!!!! when i work, ive got my 1 empty big tool bag i use n pull out all the tools ill needd on the day n toss em in there to carry around.. which in theory is the smartest route,, but anyone on the jobsite knows that you never have EVERYTHING u need right then and there... sumn comes up at lunchtime so i gotta go grab this this that....etc.. by the time the day ends, ive emptied out half of all my tool boxes and just piled n mooshed up all in one bag--jist like the mess i was tryna avoid!!! lol --- and to go thru sort out n put away properly all those tools, has been taking me roughly another hour at the end of the day... im usually always the last one to leave the site at night, cuz im laying out my tools to sort out n put in their proper places,,, while everyone else is throwing tools loose in the back of their trucks n hittin del taco ... yet here i am separating my drill bits and and wood boring bits into diff boxes. .. ultimately I really like the organization that i have, and the ability to know without a doubt where exactly a specific tool is in my truck,,, so i can tell the coworker aye 3rd box from the top, 2nd drawer has my spaddles, go snatch em! vs me diggin around like a dumpster diver for 20 mins to give someone else my bits to break lol.. and while i actually enjoy the time putting tools away n setting up dedicated soots for things,,, I dont seem to have either enough time to properly do this before and after,,, and I seem to not have enough space in my truck to store everything i ysed n need for work on a daily basis.. ..... long story short,,, i needa sell my truck n get a van like u... so i ca get more boxes to hold more tools!!!! lol
Nice video. I like your B-Roll too showing how things fit and how you organized the system. This provides a bit of inspiration! For background, Bott and Tanos worked together to design the Systianer3, 3rd gen systainer. So if you have Festool, Fein or other systainers that are 3rd Gen, the rail guides are molded into the side of your systainer already. If you have T-Loc or Classic generation, there are shelves for the smartvan system, I understand. Haven't used them myself, but saw them.
One key question. I live blocks from the ocean and salt air infiltrates everywhere. Are the boxes and drawers sealed? or do they allow ventilation. Even a tight fit would be acceptable but I wouldn't want any holes for ventilation.
It seems buy once cry once doesn't apply to modular storage! I spent quite a bit on my festool systainers but so.e other systems are making me reconsider my life lol
If you think about how much mechanics spend on toolboxes to organize and store their tool it makes sense for contractors to spend some coin on their tool and supplies storage .
I’m a remodeler in Dallas and I have a high top van (Ram Promaster). It works wonders, just make sure to get longer than you think you need. I think I would get Mercedes or Ford (gasoline versions) now.
Van vs trailer depends on a lot of things. Vans are good for guys who move around a lot day to day, work in cramped cities, and for those who work in areas where they wouldn't want all their tools at risk overnight. Trailer if you typically have space to park one at job and at home, work longer term jobs where the trailer is parked for weeks, and where you feel comfortable leaving it overnight.
Hey Rob, curious as to why you didn't stay with packout and maybe just buy more 2 / 3 drawers and pair it with their new cabinet system along with the other options and use their racking system?
I don't expect an answer here since it's been 11 months since the video was put up, but how do you bring all your tools in the drawers (like your many nailers and the accessories that go with them), into a house for a job? Do you have a large empty tool bag (or many smaller ones) where you can take all the contents from the many drawers you need for a job, put them in the bags, then bring into the house. After you're done you come out to your van, then replace all the tools from the tool bags into the drawers? I'm trying to learn this stuff to start my own business, so if anyone can help me understand how this works for bringing, then replacing tools in drawers, that would be great.
@@ConcordCarpenter yes there are systainers with drawers but I already have a lot of festool tools in their standard systainers which are mostly lids... Lids suck
Rob, I noticed your Sprinter has a smooth floor in it. It looks very similiar to the aftermarket floor I put in my Transit. It looks to me like you mounted the steel frame on top of your floor with no cutouts, but Bott mentions having to cutout aftermarket floors to install. Is there adjustment in the steel frame to accomodate the common aftermarket plywood floors? I believe mine is around 9/16" thick (1/2" baltic with plasticy coating).
I've got a couple van questions that I haven't seen anyone deal with. The difference in functionality with a High-Roof, and a Cube-Van, or Box/Van. I can see where each body style has advantages over the other. I see you have a High-Roof body style. Ford Transit seems to be taking over this segment of the North American market, Box/Van conversions also becoming more popular. What are your thoughts.
I’ve been using Bott racking for many years, having a new van last November with the Bott smart racking installed poorest racking yet, can’t put anything in the drawers to heavy as they jam. Sharp unfinished edges, appalling fixture
@@ConcordCarpenter I don't have a van, and probably won't ever have one. I do like how things are stacked or snapped together, and how you group tools so you can get fewer trips from you van. That princple can be applied elsewhere.
@@ConcordCarpenter If you're anything like me and most other contractors, it takes about 3 times as long as you think it should because you overdo it.
I really like Paulk inspiration. One thing I thought about recently, call me slow, is the weight of all the plywood in the back of the van or truck, compared to the smartvan shelving system. The "infrastructure" weight is far less.
this system sucks, i wont change my packout for some knockoff band, it will be nice if they could do something that i can use my packout toolboxes in those self instead
@@ConcordCarpenter ah cool. but does this mean an existing regular type of festool box actually fits in those racks there? or are they instead designed to be a different size ...so that they can better fit into the van? as a connected question... i was also wondering how many years of support those boxes will be guaranteed to be available for? since they may break / need to be replaced after some years
That is nice. Opened up a lot of space. Biggest thing missing is a better carry system to get the tools into the job site. Your smile tells me your pretty happy with it 👍
Hi I'm a german plumber... Bott is a very common van storage system here, but I never saw this one! Looks great to me 👌! Here in germany craftsman from many different professions use an extendable vise for the storage system, even the roofers or carpenters .. I haven't seen you do that very often over there! I need it every day, couldn't work without it...! Best craftsman greetings
What's some other brand worth looking into?
@@whatever_12 well our company uses "Aluca"... You can search for it here. Aluca Fahrzeugeinrichtungen. "Sortimo" is also very common...
I'm just a diyer and wood turner but my actual job is allll about workflow optimization and I can totally relate to limited time, so my obsession with maximizing efficiency has spilled over into hobbies... It's so true grouping tools and accessories... Rather than putting all drill bits together, putting bits for the press by the actual drill press whereas impact bits etc with their respective tools makes so much sense.
Wow… that system just makes the Pack Out system look ghetto. Reminds me of that Outkast song “so fresh and so clean”.
That’s a complete 180 looks so freaking professional now!
Tool organisation/storage is 100% just as important as having the right tools for the job. A lot of older builders and tradesman still rock around with their makita bags from 10+ years ago, random stuff thrown in there. Every battery is flat and they’re constantly looking for bits and pieces. The simple addition of a modular box/drawer system and organisation drastically increases the time taken to compete jobs as well as the quality.
Agreed, but I've seen some younger ones do it too
My ram promaster mat and 3 shelf kit and bulkhead divider was $7800 in 2017. And of course I modified it for sparky work. I made a rack to hold the rigid organizers and labeled those. Well before packout
Man I love keeping my tools organized. It's always odd to me to see videos where bits aren't kept with drills or nails aren't kept with nailers. Funny you mentioned move out day on jobs. Just cleaned out a job on the beach where we didn't have anywhere to park the work trailer but over time we ended up emptying most of it so we brought the trailer for the clean out and it's just so satisfying to put everything back in its place. I'm going to do a video soon and I'd love for you to check it out. I think you'd appreciate it. It doesn't look like those videos you see where the trailers look spit shined every day but that's what I love most about it. Very organized and clearly used for a lot of work. Has good sheet and trim stock storage. A miter saw that outfeeds to a router table that outfeeds to the table saw. Fridge, microwave, the works.
Love it!!
Great video Rob, and I have been lucky enough to have been fitting BOTT van storage systems for many years here in the UK👊As you rightly say, its great stuff and has clearly made working from your van much more organised😎We don't see many UK van tour/storage videos on TH-cam here as everyone is too worried about tool theft😩 Cheers mate
Muppet chef?!?!? Love it, ACC!
Thank you for this video! I love to see new ways and products that help me keep my tools organized and accessible!
Welcome, thanks for the comment
Hi Rob, Great Review - i enjoyed watching it, even i'm only i DIY-er interested in Tools. Thanks for your great videos!
Greetings from Switzerland
The systainers have always been better than the packout. The basic idea is to not have to move one thing to get to another. I’m always trying to lose weight, hate clutter. If it’s clean and neat and you keep it that way, it’s easier to stay disciplined before little messes get out of hand.
I try to think in ounces - like a backpacker
yo im not gonna lie,, ive been slowly buying up as many of the dewalt tstak drawers (1 n 2 shelves) as possible and organizing all my tools n shit.. i go w tstak cuz im working outta my truck, and these are the only Modular tool boxes that will fit in the back of my truck w space to open n access..
but anyway, i noticed 1) that it saves me like a good hour onna daily of digging thru pikes of rando tools and bags and boxes and buckets and all that. everything is labeled and accessible so i can grab what i need n be working within like 3 4 mins... vs the 20 mins it used to take me.,,,
2) it helped show me just how much shit i have in my kits,,, like i dont need 8 needlenose plies, i dont need to carry a full complete setup for painting for a 6 man team on the daily,, and as ive organized everything,, i can pick n choose boxes to pull out n leave at home if i wont need them..
but im not going to lie there are a few small downsides to it,, nothin wild but like ,
• every new lil tool, be it a 8 pc 3/8 hex allen key socket set, or a new cordless flood light,,, every tool i get means ive got to go thru and reorganize a good portion of my entire setup.
which isnt necessarily bad,,, i like it too , but whos got time to keep switching up n updating the setup.. (plus moving things around constantly, u forget whats where)
• And the most consequential time consuming aggravating issue is , PUTTING EVERYTHING BACK IN ITS PROPER PLACE!!!!!
when i work, ive got my 1 empty big tool bag i use n pull out all the tools ill needd on the day n toss em in there to carry around.. which in theory is the smartest route,, but anyone on the jobsite knows that you never have EVERYTHING u need right then and there... sumn comes up at lunchtime so i gotta go grab this this that....etc.. by the time the day ends, ive emptied out half of all my tool boxes and just piled n mooshed up all in one bag--jist like the mess i was tryna avoid!!! lol --- and to go thru sort out n put away properly all those tools, has been taking me roughly another hour at the end of the day... im usually always the last one to leave the site at night, cuz im laying out my tools to sort out n put in their proper places,,, while everyone else is throwing tools loose in the back of their trucks n hittin del taco ... yet here i am separating my drill bits and and wood boring bits into diff boxes. ..
ultimately I really like the organization that i have, and the ability to know without a doubt where exactly a specific tool is in my truck,,, so i can tell the coworker aye 3rd box from the top, 2nd drawer has my spaddles, go snatch em! vs me diggin around like a dumpster diver for 20 mins to give someone else my bits to break lol..
and while i actually enjoy the time putting tools away n setting up dedicated soots for things,,,
I dont seem to have either enough time to properly do this before and after,,, and I seem to not have enough space in my truck to store everything i ysed n need for work on a daily basis..
..... long story short,,, i needa sell my truck n get a van like u... so i ca get more boxes to hold more tools!!!! lol
Looks great Rob😎🛠️😎🛠️😎 I've been looking at getting that Jet Rack
Looks like a great system! Definitely love organized tools. This seem like a much more efficient system for a work van I’ve packout.
Great review Rob ,as usual
I'll take all your Festool systainers since you don't need em anymore!? 😆 Great Vid 👍
I'd install that in my shop it's so nice.
Enjoyed the video,thanks.👍📐🇨🇦
Glad you enjoyed it
Nice video. I like your B-Roll too showing how things fit and how you organized the system. This provides a bit of inspiration!
For background, Bott and Tanos worked together to design the Systianer3, 3rd gen systainer. So if you have Festool, Fein or other systainers that are 3rd Gen, the rail guides are molded into the side of your systainer already. If you have T-Loc or Classic generation, there are shelves for the smartvan system, I understand. Haven't used them myself, but saw them.
Wow I thought ranger was nice this is by far a better system
Of course you have the bott system already!lol
You do not play around brother!
Whoa!!!Bott finally came to the states?,man is america slow
This is awesome! So clean. Do you find you'll use this in conjunction with packout to actually get the tools onto a job site?
One key question. I live blocks from the ocean and salt air infiltrates everywhere. Are the boxes and drawers sealed? or do they allow ventilation. Even a tight fit would be acceptable but I wouldn't want any holes for ventilation.
not sealed
It seems buy once cry once doesn't apply to modular storage! I spent quite a bit on my festool systainers but so.e other systems are making me reconsider my life lol
Do you know of any racking for Systainers that Bott makes for a garage workshop?
If you think about how much mechanics spend on toolboxes to organize and store their tool it makes sense for contractors to spend some coin on their tool and supplies storage .
Hey Rob great video, have you abandoned the trailer for the the high roof van? An is the these vans the best for a remodeling contractor?
Yes I sold the trailer and now have the high roof van and love it
I’m a remodeler in Dallas and I have a high top van (Ram Promaster). It works wonders, just make sure to get longer than you think you need. I think I would get Mercedes or Ford (gasoline versions) now.
@@finntexbuild4809 I appreciate the advice
Van vs trailer depends on a lot of things. Vans are good for guys who move around a lot day to day, work in cramped cities, and for those who work in areas where they wouldn't want all their tools at risk overnight. Trailer if you typically have space to park one at job and at home, work longer term jobs where the trailer is parked for weeks, and where you feel comfortable leaving it overnight.
How much highway “chatter” do these shelves have? I worked out of a van for years and there was always the constant noise from the racks.
None, rubber lined bottoms
How much did he say it starts at?!
Hey Rob, curious as to why you didn't stay with packout and maybe just buy more 2 / 3 drawers and pair it with their new cabinet system along with the other options and use their racking system?
I will use the pack out welsewhrere. Perfect for pick-ups and open backs. This is so much easier to access tools and materials
Because Bott paid him to use this system
@@bd9494 I was NOT paid, I received the product free and had total independent freedom to report my findings
I don't expect an answer here since it's been 11 months since the video was put up, but how do you bring all your tools in the drawers (like your many nailers and the accessories that go with them), into a house for a job? Do you have a large empty tool bag (or many smaller ones) where you can take all the contents from the many drawers you need for a job, put them in the bags, then bring into the house. After you're done you come out to your van, then replace all the tools from the tool bags into the drawers? I'm trying to learn this stuff to start my own business, so if anyone can help me understand how this works for bringing, then replacing tools in drawers, that would be great.
I answered your other comment on other post
If you want to take up as much space as possible and not actually store that many thing then you should go with the milwaukee pack out systrm
2 years later and they still don't have drawer slides for systainers...
@@SolarSpaClub festool Systainer has something
@@ConcordCarpenter yes there are systainers with drawers but I already have a lot of festool tools in their standard systainers which are mostly lids... Lids suck
very like Festool Systainers box?
Yes Systainer Gen3
Great video but feels like your going round in a big circle from your Bosch set up
Rob, I noticed your Sprinter has a smooth floor in it. It looks very similiar to the aftermarket floor I put in my Transit. It looks to me like you mounted the steel frame on top of your floor with no cutouts, but Bott mentions having to cutout aftermarket floors to install. Is there adjustment in the steel frame to accomodate the common aftermarket plywood floors? I believe mine is around 9/16" thick (1/2" baltic with plasticy coating).
Mine came from Mercedes -its a painted wood composite material
I've got a couple van questions that I haven't seen anyone deal with.
The difference in functionality with a High-Roof, and a Cube-Van, or Box/Van.
I can see where each body style has advantages over the other. I see you have a High-Roof body style. Ford Transit seems to be taking over this segment of the North American market, Box/Van conversions also becoming more popular.
What are your thoughts.
I like high roof vans
I’ve been using Bott racking for many years, having a new van last November with the Bott smart racking installed poorest racking yet, can’t put anything in the drawers to heavy as they jam. Sharp unfinished edges, appalling fixture
How much was your set up if you don’t mind me asking?
3500
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Where did you go?
No videos!
Hope it’s just busy, and everything is good👍🏻👍🏻
Had a death in fam and my mom had a stroke. Been busy at home. Thanks for heckling in
@@ConcordCarpenter Very sorry for your loss and hope your mom gets better soon!
I will never get this system, but I do like how it works, and may apply it elsewhere.
Why would you not get it and how would you apply it?
@@ConcordCarpenter I don't have a van, and probably won't ever have one. I do like how things are stacked or snapped together, and how you group tools so you can get fewer trips from you van. That princple can be applied elsewhere.
@@What_Other_Hobbies like a workshop? I was thinking the racks would be great along a shop wall
@@ConcordCarpenter yes. Also it’s quite expensive for a hobbyist woodworker.
Hello I’m a carpenter I would like set up exactly like your van to who I have to contact help me please thank you
hello, great video, are you by chance spponcered by bott
No, I am not, they provide the product for review. I'm free to say and print what I like.
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Paulk system is couple hundred dollars and cant really be beat.
how long does it take to make? Plywood is more than a few hundred dollars these days
@@ConcordCarpenter If you're anything like me and most other contractors, it takes about 3 times as long as you think it should because you overdo it.
I really like Paulk inspiration. One thing I thought about recently, call me slow, is the weight of all the plywood in the back of the van or truck, compared to the smartvan shelving system. The "infrastructure" weight is far less.
this system sucks, i wont change my packout for some knockoff band, it will be nice if they could do something that i can use my packout toolboxes in those self instead
These look like black painted festool lmao
same company - systainer boxes [Tanos]
@@ConcordCarpenter ah cool. but does this mean an existing regular type of festool box actually fits in those racks there? or are they instead designed to be a different size ...so that they can better fit into the van?
as a connected question... i was also wondering how many years of support those boxes will be guaranteed to be available for? since they may break / need to be replaced after some years
@@dreamcat4 Systainers are all the same footprint. Attachment methods vary thru the years, but they all still stack together.
That is nice. Opened up a lot of space. Biggest thing missing is a better carry system to get the tools into the job site. Your smile tells me your pretty happy with it 👍
@@foxwood67 the Fetool doll works, i just don’t have one. Carry boxes in, or use a 4 wheel dolly, or a tool tote