How Accurate is Monty Python's Anarcho-Syndicalist Peasant Scene?

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  • Monty Python and the Holy Grail’s anarcho-syndicalist peasant scene is one of the funniest parts of the film.
    In it, two peasants claim that they’re living in an autonomous collective, a small self-governed society that doesn’t answer to a higher power, such as a lord, a king or a government.
    It seems like it’s a crazy idea and just part of the zany humour of the film.
    But how accurate is this scene? Could a society like this have existed back in the middle ages, and how would it work?
    It was a question recently posed on Reddit, and there were some truly fascinating answers.
    Let’s look into it.
    Thanks to Redditors Wifi-Knight, Mike Dash, J-Force and Airborne Walrus for their insight.
    Here's the original question on reddit:
    www.reddit.com/r/AskHistorian...
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  • @djdksf1
    @djdksf1 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +85

    "You can't expect to wield supreme power just 'cause some watery tart threw a sword at you!"

    • @Roy-gi5ul
      @Roy-gi5ul 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I wonder sometimes if King Charles ponders these words in relation to Ms Mordaunt's theatrical part in his enthronement ceremony? He DOES have a reputation for having an ironic wit!

  • @ghaznavid
    @ghaznavid 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1172

    "Come and see the violence inherent on the system. Help, help, I'm being repressed" might be the greatest line in movie history.

    • @ricstormwolf
      @ricstormwolf 2 ปีที่แล้ว +69

      You saw him repressing me, didn't you?!

    • @ellec7276
      @ellec7276 ปีที่แล้ว +41

      @@ricstormwolfThe ENTIRE SCENE is MOVIE GOLD!! EVERY line, like most in Holy Grail, is incredibly timely & quotable!

    • @ildart8738
      @ildart8738 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      I literally fell under the table after seeing this.

    • @budlight2969
      @budlight2969 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      i dont know
      "That bastard shot my lunch!" was a pretty good line

    • @quentinsillett824
      @quentinsillett824 ปีที่แล้ว +30

      Just because some watery tart threw you a sword....😅

  • @MrKurtykurt
    @MrKurtykurt 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +422

    I think it still stands that my all time favorite movie line is , “Listen, strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government”

    • @SammYLightfooD
      @SammYLightfooD 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      In all honesty, I think it's my all time favourite movie line too!

    • @DrTh0r
      @DrTh0r 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@SammYLightfooD Blasphemy! BRING OUT YOUR DEAD!

    • @orjan759
      @orjan759 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      I concur

    • @dauphindauphin6607
      @dauphindauphin6607 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Behold our civilized western world....my god what an idiots we are....

    • @avishalom2000lm
      @avishalom2000lm 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +12

      Right after: "Are you suggesting that coconuts migrate?" And "It is the rabbit!" And "Can't I have just a little peril?" And....oh hell, they're all golden!

  • @RicktheCrofter
    @RicktheCrofter 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +154

    Here what I see is often missed in this scene. The two peasants are muckrakers. They are gathering manure to sell as fertilizer. This is called muckraking.
    However, in modern times muckraking has anew meaning. Journalists who dig up dirt on politicians, expose corruption, etc, are also called muckrakers.
    So, the two peasants are literally muckrakers, in the older definition of the word.
    However, they are also muckrakers in the modern definition of the word, in they are exposing the violence inherent in the system.

    • @nospoon4799
      @nospoon4799 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

      The collective was called the diggers.

    • @Paislywalls4767
      @Paislywalls4767 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      "Yellow Beard ", adorable little girl on the street, " farthing for a lump of shit, Sir?"

    • @skramzy6628
      @skramzy6628 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@nospoon4799 YES!

    • @johnnorth9514
      @johnnorth9514 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Manure, or just plain old lovely filth? Seeing this movie is still one of the most memorable experiences of my life.

    • @josorr
      @josorr 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Keen observation!

  • @robertlehnert4148
    @robertlehnert4148 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +164

    "Suddenly, strange women, lying in ponds, distributing swords, seems like an increasingly viable basis, as a form of government"

    • @patriottothecore6215
      @patriottothecore6215 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +18

      We need watery tarts

    • @Anvilshock
      @Anvilshock 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +13

      @@patriottothecore6215 And moist bints.

    • @pyropulseIXXI
      @pyropulseIXXI 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Where is this quote from?

    • @robertlehnert4148
      @robertlehnert4148 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@pyropulseIXXI Online meme

    • @tjcassidy2694
      @tjcassidy2694 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      At this point, it’d be just as well.

  • @Lemurion287
    @Lemurion287 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +107

    I still remember an occasion back in the eighties when I was able to ask the late Arthurian Historian Geoffrey Ashe what he thought was the most accurate Arthurian movie ever made? Without hesitation, he answered "Monty Python and the Holy Grail."

    • @balok63a40
      @balok63a40 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +12

      If only for the line about how we know that Arthur was the king because he was the only one who didn't have sh*t all over him.

    • @nospam3327
      @nospam3327 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +14

      Haha, true! I'm always trying to explain to people who don't care about why Holy Grail is so accurate. My favorite example is when Lancelot just starts stabbing wedding guests. He does that in the stories! I mean, not that exactly, but he habitually falls asleep in other people's pavilions and then kills them when the rightful owner comes home and complains. Like more than once. WtF?!? Who would do that?

    • @originaluddite
      @originaluddite 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +14

      A biblical scholar I know says a similar thing for the politics of the Holy Land in Life Of Brian.

    • @katanaki3059
      @katanaki3059 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      @@nospam3327no wait what? Lancelot was a slasher?

    • @davidkusner5637
      @davidkusner5637 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      On second thought, Camelot is a silly place...

  • @TheMdog8
    @TheMdog8 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +50

    "What I object to is that you automatically treat me as an inferior."

    • @mystreteacher
      @mystreteacher 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Well, I am your king.

  • @TisTheDamnStickSeason
    @TisTheDamnStickSeason 3 ปีที่แล้ว +821

    I think Dennis is quite sane and logical actually

    • @1337w0n
      @1337w0n 3 ปีที่แล้ว +99

      Based Anarco-pythonism

    • @DualityOttawa
      @DualityOttawa 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      That's good

    • @Glaaki13
      @Glaaki13 2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      Well im an AnSyn so I agree

    • @DavidSwe
      @DavidSwe ปีที่แล้ว +34

      Anarcho-syndicalism with pond characteristics

    • @kevinwillems8720
      @kevinwillems8720 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Then you're an anarchist. Welcome

  • @patricklarm5462
    @patricklarm5462 ปีที่แล้ว +190

    Damn, every anarchist I know loves the scene as comedy gold.

    • @jollyjoker888
      @jollyjoker888 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Me THREE !

    • @paxwallace8324
      @paxwallace8324 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Yup

    • @shawntailor5485
      @shawntailor5485 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      But no cookbook ?

    • @shawntailor5485
      @shawntailor5485 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Monty python , first few times puffin , lmao into coma land . Great memories!

    • @someguycalledCh0wdah
      @someguycalledCh0wdah 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

      ​@shawntailor5485 nah, the guy that wrote that wasn't even an anarchist, he was a grumpy trust fund college kid who was mad at the government. Also most if the explosives recipes and plans snf stuff don't work.

  • @JohnWilliams-zu8wg
    @JohnWilliams-zu8wg ปีที่แล้ว +82

    If I went around saying I was Emperor just 'cause some moistened bint lobbed a scimitar at me, they'd put me away!

    • @danielmead970
      @danielmead970 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Shut Up!

    • @patrickday4206
      @patrickday4206 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +10

      Got to watch out for them watery tarts

    • @donovanjones4175
      @donovanjones4175 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      LOL, love the comments

    • @dananorth895
      @dananorth895 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Have you tried being born in a manger?

  • @Edmonddantes123
    @Edmonddantes123 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +45

    6:25 Imagine being a history channel and mistaking the Holy Roman Empire for the Roman Empire

    • @benmiller3358
      @benmiller3358 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

      He keeps doing it. I feel like hes doing it on purpose to drive engagement and views

    • @Skanking-Corpse
      @Skanking-Corpse 22 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +2

      Not only that but he missed the whole point of that scene as being a mockery of modern anarcho socialist groups. Monty Python liked to make fun of that type of stuff.

    • @Jamie_Case
      @Jamie_Case 3 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      Just to be pedantic, The Holy Roman Empire was the Roman Empire, according to their line of succession.

    • @benmiller3358
      @benmiller3358 2 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@Jamie_Case No, it was not! It was an explicit reformation. The HRE was founded on Christmas Day 800AD when the Pope crowned Charlemagne. There was no direct and contiguous line from either the Western or Eastern Roman Empire to Charlemagne. They attempted to frame themselves as the inheritors of the Western RE's mandate from God but they never claimed direct and contiguous lineage.

  • @edgeGabe
    @edgeGabe 2 ปีที่แล้ว +329

    The king attacking Dennis is not crazy at all. Quite realistic of how governments react to those that don't follow the line.

    • @tugalord
      @tugalord 2 ปีที่แล้ว +52

      when someone says: "give me liberty or give me death" the state is very happy to respond with the latter.

    • @dogbarbill
      @dogbarbill 2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      America is going through that now.

    • @jamesmcbeth4463
      @jamesmcbeth4463 ปีที่แล้ว

      Smash the woke

    • @linamarie84
      @linamarie84 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes. Because people behave as if they are unaware of the consent derives from the people. They fight for it yet they quiver and succumb when the other side undermines them

    • @TheNapster153
      @TheNapster153 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      And I'm sure if by some miracle they formed their republic, the newly made 'representatives' won't go chopping peoples heads like its a matter of k/d ratios

  • @gerwin07
    @gerwin07 ปีที่แล้ว +203

    A reminder everyone. 'Dennis the anarcho-syndicalist" is now Sir Michael Edward Palin. I guess he got tired of all that lovely filth

    • @jollyjoker888
      @jollyjoker888 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      I think it was Abbie Hoffman who said ..." Do YOUR Thing until you get Rich, Then do Their Thing !

    • @deaddan2148
      @deaddan2148 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I bet he misses that lovely filth...

    • @nnonotnow
      @nnonotnow 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Satire

    • @mrhed0nist
      @mrhed0nist 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      I read his diaries in prison. Cleese was right, they were bloody boring.

    • @davidwright8432
      @davidwright8432 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Naturally. 'Twas but a silly, passing fetish.

  • @jd-zr3vk
    @jd-zr3vk 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +28

    This video is sooooo important because Monty Python was making a historical drama.

    • @ralfdunkel6266
      @ralfdunkel6266 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Just like Netflix

    • @jd-zr3vk
      @jd-zr3vk 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@ralfdunkel6266 or the History Channel

  • @rhysodunloe2463
    @rhysodunloe2463 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +16

    Came here for Monty Python trivia, learned about some history of my own region. 😮
    I'm from Hamburg and my grandparents lived in Hennstedt and later in Sankt Michaelisdonn which are both in Dithmarschen. 😅

  • @thegrumpyoldmechanic6245
    @thegrumpyoldmechanic6245 2 ปีที่แล้ว +123

    Gotta love a scholarly dissection of the funniest scene in cinema.

    • @hughgabin8068
      @hughgabin8068 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Lol I was just looking for the scene. Now I'm watching it picked apart.😂

  • @Vurbanowicz
    @Vurbanowicz 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +28

    At least one major theoretician of anarchism, Petr Kropotkin, used medieval cities and guilds as models of autonomous or semi-autonomous rule. Runaway serfs typically fled to cities, regarding them as free places. See his "Mutual Aid: A Factor of Evolution," published 1902.

    • @ionidhunedoara1491
      @ionidhunedoara1491 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

      Anarcho -syndicalism worked and thrived in Catalonia during the Spanish Civil war. It was hindered and suppressed by the Barcelona communists who were suspicious of anything that smacked of "deviationism".

  • @puddlel1ama327
    @puddlel1ama327 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +63

    as an anarchist i absolutely adore this scene

    • @SiiriCressey
      @SiiriCressey 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      Even though it's kind of making fun of you + yours?

    • @tobybartels8426
      @tobybartels8426 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +20

      ​​@@SiiriCressey: I can't speak for OP, but most anarchists that I know have a sense of humour. It helps that the jokes are on point, not the usual ways people try to make fun of anarchists, but addressing the things that we actually do: the convoluted forms of governance to try to avoid letting any one person or group take power; debates over the primacy of class, race, etc as a form of oppression; whether to get on with the work or focus on talking and debating. And anyway, Dennis may be high-strung, but he's right.

    • @SiiriCressey
      @SiiriCressey 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@tobybartels8426 Hmm, let me guess: Dennis = talk talk talk, woman (is she named? I don't remember) = get on with the work?

    • @tobybartels8426
      @tobybartels8426 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +11

      @@SiiriCressey : Yes, the woman only argues with Arthur when he's trying to interfere with their work, while Dennis goes on arguing even after Arthur starts leaving, provoking him into physically attacking him so that he can show everyone ‘the violence inherent in the system’. (I don't know how much of that was deliberate on the part of the Pythons, but that's how I see it. There's a more explicit satire of talk-talk-talk in _Life of Brian,_ although that's patterned more on Maoist parties than anarcho-syndicalist communes.)

    • @hyena2956
      @hyena2956 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +13

      @@SiiriCressey as an anarchist, it's an amazing scene. Dude is spitting straight fire while stacking literal dirt, it's absolutely amazing.

  • @MrFusselig
    @MrFusselig 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +45

    "Wahr di Garr, de Bur kumt!"
    It's interesting, that you brought up Dithmarschen, because they were indeed the prime example of it I thought about as well. about 20 years ago I held a presentation about in our history lessons, using Age of Empires II screenshots to illustrate everything. There is much more to this peasant republic than you could do in your short video. How they fought for they land against King Johann I. in the battle of Hemmingstedt in the year 1500. They warned the peasants to obey the king, but as they refused, the king attacked with a massive army, including the infamous "Black Guard" mercenary force. "Wahr di Bur, de Garr kumt!" - "Beware peasant, the guard is coming!"
    But the military expedition failed miserably, and the black guard wasn't equipped to fight in the swamps, and of about 2000 guard fighters, 800 died and drowned within three hours in heavy armor.
    It ended in chaos and slaughter and the army of the King crumbled to nothing as the survivors fled in panic. The leaders of the "Black Guard" were killed and the organization was dissolved.
    The aristocratic cavalry forces tried to win the battle by them selves, but the farmers attacked the horses in the marshy lands and the noble knights died and drowned in large numbers as well, including many members of higher nobility of that region.
    The king had to withdraw, and the peasants flipped their battle slogan around: "Wahr di Garr, de Bur kumt!" - "Beware guard, the peasant is coming!"
    The Danish kingdom was so weakened, that as a consequence, the Swedish Kingdom could gain independence afterwards.

    • @Der_graue_Wanderer
      @Der_graue_Wanderer 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

      Yes, peasant republics where a thing in mediaval Europe, but Dithmarschen was not the only one. Iceland and the swiss Eidgenossenschaft come to mind, in Germany East-Frisia. All of these free peasants where subdued by territorial rulers sooner or later, though (the Swiss by local townspeople), except Dithmarschen's little known neighbour to the south. The Land Hadeln maintained it's selfadministration well into modern times, up to 1884!

    • @TSIRKLAND
      @TSIRKLAND 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

      "All the other kings said I was DAFT to build a castle in a swamp, but I built it all the same, just to show 'em!"

    • @donovanjones4175
      @donovanjones4175 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Runaway, runaway!!

    • @Chapps1941
      @Chapps1941 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Very interesting

    • @SiiriCressey
      @SiiriCressey 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@MrFusselig *WOW!* That is fantastic.

  • @killboggins
    @killboggins 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +54

    Be quiet. I order you to be quiet.

    • @PageIsYourGod
      @PageIsYourGod 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

      Ordering? Who does he think he is.

    • @nospoon4799
      @nospoon4799 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      Things never change in Britain.

  • @alexanderfridayeagle9146
    @alexanderfridayeagle9146 3 ปีที่แล้ว +163

    Wait that actually happened? A lord saying ''This shit is too much for me'' and abandoning his lands and titles to go live in a larger town as a commoner, or would he still be considered a landless noble?

    • @Makarosc
      @Makarosc 3 ปีที่แล้ว +28

      Landless noble

    • @walli6388
      @walli6388 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Yes. He would have the problem that he couldn't do a lot of jobs as a noble.

    • @unokarpa4405
      @unokarpa4405 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      уклоняющийся от своих обязанностей дворянин раньше лишался дворянства,
      если дворянин не платил королю дань деньгами и воинами то он лишался земель и титула,
      а без земель и титула человек мог быть безнаказанно убит и ограблен любым представителем закона.

    • @alexanderfridayeagle9146
      @alexanderfridayeagle9146 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@unokarpa4405 а если просто без земли, он пака считается аристократ?

    • @unokarpa4405
      @unokarpa4405 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      ​@@alexanderfridayeagle9146
      когда начинался институт аристократии то звание аристократа не предполагало безземельность,
      за заслуги перед королём давалась земля и титул, титул был неотъемлемой частью земли, граф таких-то земель, маркиз таких-то земель, принц таких-то земель.. титул был как как звание управляющего - управляющий такого-то отеля, управляющий такого-то завода, управляющий такого-то магазина..
      когда аристократы теряли земли они шли на военную службу королю, где их либо убивали в походе/в бою, либо они получали новые завоёванные земли.

  • @sheenapearse766
    @sheenapearse766 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

    Dennis was just ahead of his time , and unafraid of articulating his principles .

  • @mur0010
    @mur0010 ปีที่แล้ว +50

    1:35 "Monty Python is set in AD 932, in England" - Proceeds to cut to B-roll of Mont-Saint-Michel, the Frenchiest castle ever.

    • @paulhulatt8390
      @paulhulatt8390 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Are you sure it isn't St Michael's Mount, in Cornwall?

    • @sawedman
      @sawedman 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Nah nah nah coz the police had to arrest that knight for killing the historian 🤗

    • @christopherwebber3804
      @christopherwebber3804 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      True today, but wasn't ruled by lords who owed their loyalty to the English king for quite a long time?

  • @thomasmarteny291
    @thomasmarteny291 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    2:11 well, i didn't vote for you.(love the scene)

  • @f15stroke
    @f15stroke 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +11

    One of my college professors played us this scene and we discussed it for the exact reasons mentioned in this video.

  • @Skammee
    @Skammee 2 ปีที่แล้ว +108

    Dennis is the sane one , the king is living in fantasy land ... I want a sword now .

    • @David_Span
      @David_Span ปีที่แล้ว

      How can it be a 'fantasy land' if that type of thing actually happened? Plenty of examples of leaders believing in divine right. History is full of it. It's still around. It's reality. That's what is being ridiculed.

    • @aevum6667
      @aevum6667 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      @@David_Span How many of those leaders even believed in divine right and how many of them used general ignorance to their advantage?

    • @David_Span
      @David_Span ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@aevum6667 (1) Belief of leaders in divine will/right, and (2) the power of religious belief to control the masses, are not mutually exclusive concepts.

  • @menhi4842
    @menhi4842 3 ปีที่แล้ว +121

    Reminds me of the autonomous villages in medieval Japan, despite living in the realm of a Shugo Daimyo, they are almost entirely self-governing with a number of headmen deciding everyday affairs, the lords were only in charge when there was a border dispute, such as villages competing for streams or farmlands, which the lord would be responsible for declaring war to resolve the dispute, and these autonomous villages would provide footmen and supplies in exchange.

    • @farwynd2925
      @farwynd2925 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      That sounds just like early feudalism

    • @robertslugg8361
      @robertslugg8361 ปีที่แล้ว

      Sounds like an AA business meeting. It actually works until a "King Arthur" type arrives. But, they usually then get drunk and the problem goes away until they return with the appropriate amount of humility.

    • @WiloPolis03
      @WiloPolis03 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ​@@farwynd2925I mean it's basically the medieval equivalent of small socialist communities today, integrating communal elements into a feudalist or capitalist world

  • @aarondavis8433
    @aarondavis8433 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +13

    Seeing that most of the troupe were Cambridge educated why is this surprising? To say Terry Jone had studied up on Medieval history is a bit of an understatement, as he was one of the foremost experts on Chaucer and Her Royal Majesty's Expert on ancient documents.

    • @FredScuttle456
      @FredScuttle456 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      I've never lived in medieval England, but I think Terry Jones got the visual appearance of that era 100% correct. He worked on all the Python team's movies such as The Jabberwocky and The Time Bandits.

  • @martinstubs6203
    @martinstubs6203 3 ปีที่แล้ว +91

    Very interesting. But one thing: The name, Dithmarschen, of a region near Hamburg, is not pronounced with the "th" sound but with a simple "t". And to this day, the Dithmarschen people are renowned for their stubbornness and their independent spirit.

    • @hartzell7407
      @hartzell7407 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Yes, same rule as in "Beethoven."

    • @paulklee5790
      @paulklee5790 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      You learn something everyday.... thank you.

    • @k3kboi665
      @k3kboi665 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Propably because all the independent blood wasent executed out of the genepool.

    • @eddiejohnston1853
      @eddiejohnston1853 ปีที่แล้ว

      So are the Spanish. Their history is rich in anarchism.

    • @jollyjoker888
      @jollyjoker888 ปีที่แล้ว

      And their Red Necks ?!

  • @sammavacaist
    @sammavacaist 3 ปีที่แล้ว +53

    Why wouldnt it be accurate? Or informed enough to be satire? Terry Jones and Michael Palin both had history degrees from Oxford.

    • @jollyjoker888
      @jollyjoker888 ปีที่แล้ว

      Do Tell !!

    • @paulohagan3309
      @paulohagan3309 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@jollyjoker888 Wikipedia would probably tell you everything you want to know.

    • @answerman9933
      @answerman9933 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Did kings also roam the lands with a squire who mimicked the sounds of horse hooves?

    • @paulohagan3309
      @paulohagan3309 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      @@answerman9933 Everything is possible in the multiverse ...

    • @russcrawford3310
      @russcrawford3310 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@answerman9933 - The coconut shells are satire ... BUT ... yes, especially Henry II were well known as travelers, running tours up and down the country-side keeping his barons in line ... the movie was set in the times the legend was written, political spin for the French Invaders ... "Of course Author was Occitanian, just like Richard the Lionheart" ...

  • @helend269
    @helend269 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    One thing that everyone misses is that Dennis knows what Excalibur is.

  • @PatrickRsGhost
    @PatrickRsGhost ปีที่แล้ว +8

    5:18 - "The peasants are revolting!"
    "You said it! They stink on ice!" - Mel Brooks, "History of the World Part I"

  • @interstellarphred
    @interstellarphred 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Those fearsome knights are actually saying "NEIT" which the Netherlanders would exclaim if their shrubberies were being trampled.

  • @Oldhogleg
    @Oldhogleg 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    Royalty us just code for gangster family.

  • @arx3516
    @arx3516 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    You also have the republics in northern Italy as an example. And they were very prosperous. They also beat emperor Barbarossa at the battle of Legnano and forced him to recognize their autonomy.

  • @bloominjooj7541
    @bloominjooj7541 3 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    Dude, you're incredibly underrated. Keep up the great work!

  • @kidyomu89
    @kidyomu89 3 ปีที่แล้ว +37

    Dithmarsh lasted longer than America has existed so far. Imagine the culture of Dithmarsh, even as a smaller society, imagine if it simply grew bigger.

    • @gabrielethier2046
      @gabrielethier2046 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      What these anarchists don't seem to understand is that this system is destined to collapse as centralization becomes easier, Dithmarshen was able to exist for so long because of its Marshy terrain, which was useful in keeping outsiders away

    • @walli6388
      @walli6388 ปีที่แล้ว

      Not really. They were conquered by the nearby bishopric a few decades later

    • @aevum6667
      @aevum6667 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@gabrielethier2046 "What these democratic republicans don't seem to understand is that this system is destined to collapse as centralization becomes easier, the USA was able to exist for so long because of its spread out population, which was useful in making more centralized authority impractical"

    • @gabrielethier2046
      @gabrielethier2046 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@aevum6667 that comparison is ridiculous because they each have a proper functioning state to effectively defend their interest, but even if I granted you that, which I'm fine with doing considering the fact the US does in reality trend towards more centralized control, what of it?

    • @arx3516
      @arx3516 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      There's nothing to imagine. Just look at what happened in northern Italy. The italian part of the HRE was de-facto independent from the imperial authority due to geographical distance, wich allowed cities like Milan and Bologna to become extremely prosperous, far prosperous than any other cities in the german parts of the empire, wich led emperor Barbarossa to directly impose his authority on them, these cities however banded together and crushed Barbarossa's army at Legnano, forcing him to officially recognise their autonomy. This is what made the italian Reanaissance possible.

  • @traviscutler9912
    @traviscutler9912 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    How do you know he's a king?
    He's the only one not covered in shit.

  • @christiner6000
    @christiner6000 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    What a clever video. It manages to be informative and funny at the same time. Well worth 10 minutes of my life. 👍

  • @Narrowgaugefilms
    @Narrowgaugefilms ปีที่แล้ว +13

    I think given the poor communications and travel that existed centuries ago. It would have been far from impossible for isolated communities to live for decades as subjects of governments they have no idea even existed!

    • @Narrowgaugefilms
      @Narrowgaugefilms 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Right now in these modern times, with jet aircraft overhead and satellites having mapped basically every square meter of the Earth's surface, there exist a people called the "North Sentinelese", it's just that they don't know they are called that because they haven't had a conversation with the outside world in maybe tens of thousands of years. Very, VERY loosely speaking they are under the laws of the Indian government, but they don't know that, or that an Indian government exists, or a place called "India", either.
      The whole world is the island they live on, and everything from outside is unknown, not wanted and pretty violently resisted.
      They are very truly an Autonomous Collective!

  • @jamesbuscher701
    @jamesbuscher701 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    So Dithmarschen was also the inspiration for swamp castle. All the other lords thought I was daft building a castle in a swamp and it sank into the swamp so I built another and it sank into the swamp so I built a third and it burned down then sank into the swamp, but the fourth, the fourth one stood!

    • @hughgabin8068
      @hughgabin8068 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I had forgotten that scene😂Thank you,kind stranger I've had an awful day!

    • @jamesbuscher701
      @jamesbuscher701 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@hughgabin8068 I hope today is better my friend!

    • @rwill156
      @rwill156 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      But to do that you need Huge "tracts of land".

    • @dananorth895
      @dananorth895 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

      And it still stands to this day! .....at least the parts that haven't sank into the swamp.

  • @stuartnorman8713
    @stuartnorman8713 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    What an absolutely,, wonderfully absurdist conception! Just remembering the first time viewing it with hysterical laughter.

    • @SiiriCressey
      @SiiriCressey 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@stuartnorman8713 You think autonomous egalitarian communities are absurd?

  • @HistoryonYouTube
    @HistoryonYouTube 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I have never doubted that Monty Python and the Holy Grail - along with all other Monty Python films - are anything other than absolutely representative of the times they portray!

  • @nooneyouknow4312
    @nooneyouknow4312 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Its.."...farcical aquatic ceremony."

  • @AcademyMike
    @AcademyMike 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Little did I realise this back in the day, as I howled in laughter as a teenager. Still, we live and learn 😊.

  • @RaceSmokie
    @RaceSmokie 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    One day, students will have this to watch and to learn how several layers of the comedy goes together in the same time.

  • @paulklee5790
    @paulklee5790 2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    I want to know who told Dennis that Excalibur was a sword..?

    • @RideAcrossTheRiver
      @RideAcrossTheRiver 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      Merlin, you berk.

    • @paulohagan3309
      @paulohagan3309 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      The script ...

    • @FredScuttle456
      @FredScuttle456 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@paulohagan3309 Dingo from Castle Anthrax.

    • @acrodave9287
      @acrodave9287 11 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      He MIGHT have been able to guess from the word itself; Excalibur, or Ex Caliburn, means "from Caliburn" (as Ex Libris, from the library, automatically indicates "book") so he could tell somebody made it and Caliburn was a nickname for Blacksmiths in general, so Blacksmith - metal - guy in armour - weapon - he's obviously got a sword with him - Excalibur is a sword, QED.
      Whatever else he was, Dennis wasn't stupid or unobservant!
      Or am I overthinking this and stretching too much..?

  • @garysarratt1
    @garysarratt1 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    Looks like Ditmarschen (sic) is where Swamp Castle is.

    • @FredScuttle456
      @FredScuttle456 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      I've hoped for my entire adult life that I might find Castle Anthrax.
      Despite the peril.

    • @garysarratt1
      @garysarratt1 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@FredScuttle456 No; it’s too perilous.

    • @nicksterj
      @nicksterj 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@FredScuttle456 Someone in Las Vegas really needs to put up a grail-shaped beacon... 🏆

    • @FredScuttle456
      @FredScuttle456 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@nicksterj YES YES YES!

  • @bradarmstrong3952
    @bradarmstrong3952 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Great fun to consider this! The best humor has more than a kernel of truth

  • @smallstudiodesign
    @smallstudiodesign วันที่ผ่านมา

    Brilliantly executed/ written /edited video with a very compelling narrative. Now subscribed❣️💪🏽✨🏆✨👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼

  • @buddha4tw
    @buddha4tw 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Sounds like a modern-day Body Corporate, you have a seven-person Committee to represent the owners for smaller day-to-day matters, and once every year for major votes you need a minimum amount of owners to vote (quorum), and finally, a new committee is voted in.

  • @davidthompson6834
    @davidthompson6834 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Christ imagine going to this film for the first time with the narrator

    • @hughgabin8068
      @hughgabin8068 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I cackled!

  • @magiegainey5036
    @magiegainey5036 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    “Come see the violence inherent in the system! Help! Help! I'm being repressed!. 😂😂

  • @SteveeCee
    @SteveeCee 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    The sleights "Your mother was a hamster" and "Your father smells of Elderberries" could have been accurate too.
    Apparently the insult that 'she breeds like a hamster' was common. Also peasants, who could not but wine from grapes, used to make bramble and elderberry wines. Smelling like elderberries was indicative of the peasant trade.

  • @GrogMindwhip
    @GrogMindwhip 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    This is just a fancy excuse to go watch the movie again. Which I shall.

  • @mikecronis
    @mikecronis 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Many of the peasants outside of the castle influence were likely only assaulted by tax-collectors (or highwaymen posing as such) as their only regal interaction for their whole lives.

  • @TorquilBletchleySmythe
    @TorquilBletchleySmythe 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    The edited word in Dennis' retort was "aquatic". Don't know why anyone would edit "farcical aquatic ceremony", but there you go.

  • @throwabrick
    @throwabrick 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    ever lobbed a scimitar? flung a falchion? hucked a bastard?

  • @pabtorre
    @pabtorre 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    "how accurate is monty python" ?
    Very, very, all the way to being accurately silly 😜😂 every single time!

  • @Yora21
    @Yora21 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I was immediately thinking about Dithmarschen. It's such a weird place in history.
    It has no cities of meaningful size and no special resources. It's really just farmers. And lots of powerful duchies and kingdoms tried to subjugate them and they somehow managed to keep them out for centuries.

  • @nisselarson3227
    @nisselarson3227 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I dare say he's the wittiest muckraker ever. Has got a way with words he has.

  • @VT-dt2zx
    @VT-dt2zx 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    I remember the thread on r/AskHistorians. Brilliant video!

  • @HansLemurson
    @HansLemurson 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    6:21 "Holy Roman Empire" isn't the ancient Romans from Italy.

    • @davidpeacock4632
      @davidpeacock4632 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes, the "Holy Roman Empire" was not the "Roman Empire". It probably wasn't particularly Holy or even much of an Empire either. Use of "Holy Roman Empire" would be a bit like modern Britain deciding to call itself "The Devine Indian Empire" on the basis of having conquered it a few centuries ago. I was puzzled by reference to Romans, with footage of marching Roman soldiers (presumably modern people re-enacting Roman soldiers rather than 2000 year old film footage).

  • @ersikillian
    @ersikillian 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    My God! They're Soveriegn Citizens!

  • @happyfreeky
    @happyfreeky 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I agree in your general direction, sir!

  • @mh1593
    @mh1593 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    1:35 I like how you say it's set in England while showing the scene of a French castle 😂😂

  • @r6600
    @r6600 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Peasants.
    Bloody troublemakers. The whole lot o' them.

  • @kaymuldoon3575
    @kaymuldoon3575 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +35

    “I am your king!”
    “Well I didn’t vote for you.”
    One of my favorite lines. 😂

  • @Docv400
    @Docv400 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Anyone else notice the distinct face in the Tree at 1:40?

  • @gailforce
    @gailforce 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    When i first saw this, it made me think that there's always been people who had it all figured out and just had to find a way to survive the insane world they were born into. We may still be in the dark ages. It may not even be an age. 🤷‍♀️

  • @marzinjedi6437
    @marzinjedi6437 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    The intelligence of pythons humor is often overlooked !

  • @bovinejonie3745
    @bovinejonie3745 8 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    0:24 Is that the aptly named Sir Not-Appearing-in-this-Film?!

  • @faeembrugh
    @faeembrugh ปีที่แล้ว +8

    My ex-girlfriend's family was from Dithmarschen. She certainly was very argumentative, no doubt.

    • @gilesfarmer5953
      @gilesfarmer5953 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      No she wasn't.

    • @hwizell7478
      @hwizell7478 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      I was arguing in my spare time

  • @lorenstribling6096
    @lorenstribling6096 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Churlish knave, how dast thee question Sir Monty of Python. Begone, I say. Begone!

  • @MoivinSulunker
    @MoivinSulunker 13 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    Yagata listen to the interviewins of Ralph Ellis, who closely studied the more detailed and relevant Vulgate Cycle. However he has stayed ignorant of the fact that 2 Jesi were.

  • @stephenwood6663
    @stephenwood6663 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Swamps, you say? So you could say that Dithmarschen had some lovely filth?

  • @skoolzone
    @skoolzone 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I’m curious, did Royals just sprout up from the ground? With the magic fairy children? Or were they just the toughest largest group of people who made everyone else do what they said and declared themselves better through time. The Victor writes the history in the Victor always is the hero in the history.Oh Mr. Pendragon the stories you could tell.

  • @misterno-ice-guy8082
    @misterno-ice-guy8082 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

    There's a great song by Screeching Weasel called:
    Come See the Violence Inherent in the System.
    I saw this movie decades before the song came out, but I haven't got an idydic memory, so I had a eureka moment when I realized

  • @mho...
    @mho... 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    who put you in charge, to question Monty Python's validity?!

  • @bhartley1024
    @bhartley1024 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I know I'm not the only one who has this scene memorized.

  • @JakeWitmer
    @JakeWitmer ปีที่แล้ว +2

    It's every Libertarian Party meeting ever 😂😂😂 ...and, instead of the king ordering the currently-speaking yammerhead to shut up, it's new attendees (the peasants) who do so. 😂😂😂

  • @hansvandermeulen5515
    @hansvandermeulen5515 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Leave it tto Monty Python to get into a political rant in a movie about King Arthur.

  • @hayleyfoster2634
    @hayleyfoster2634 2 ปีที่แล้ว +35

    One line about the “king” is undoubtably true. The comment “I didn’t vote for you” is true for any king

    • @gabrielethier2046
      @gabrielethier2046 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Though some kings are elected

    • @jebise1126
      @jebise1126 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      not true. kings were often elected granted not by peasants but by other lords.

    • @thepinebros.1873
      @thepinebros.1873 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      ​@@jebise1126so 99% of the population could still say I didn't vote for you

  • @ved2360
    @ved2360 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Okay, this shit is cool. This is what I live for. Weird diverse history that defies fantasy fiction and stereotypes that people just see on Game of Thrones.

  • @pierrevincent9568
    @pierrevincent9568 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    1:36 "set in 932 ad england" as they show mt st michel in france

  • @boblordylordyhowie
    @boblordylordyhowie 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Known as a tribe or clan. The smartest often becomes a leader, as humans need leaders to take charge and conduct negotiations, so becoming collectives. No matter whether people say there are no leaders one will naturally come forward.

  • @mschmidt62
    @mschmidt62 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I remember reading an article in the New Yorker about how, in the British Isles, the people living in and around bogs were the most independent and unruly. While bogs aren't great for agriculture, they are great for hunting and gathering, and hunting and gathering give people a lot of freedom compared to agriculture.
    I then interpreted the work that Dennis and his companion were doing as similar to peat harvesting--it's a pretty damp location, and it sure doesn't look like they are farming. I have discussed this with some people and they laughed at me--surely the Monty Python gang didn't have any serious history in mind when they wrote the scene! But I always thought there was more to this scene--it is nice to see that some others are considering the more serious background of this scene.

  • @RideAcrossTheRiver
    @RideAcrossTheRiver 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Can you do a video explicating "there's some lovely filth down here"?

  • @walli6388
    @walli6388 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    6:26 XD I think you missed the holy part. It is called the Holy Roman empire

    • @ArthLud
      @ArthLud 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Yup absolutely a different thing. HRE wasn't holy, wasn't Roman and it wasn't an Empire!

  • @kashigata
    @kashigata 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I loved this video!!

  • @TheGreatWhiteScout
    @TheGreatWhiteScout 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I have to admit losing it completely watching that silly movie "The Last Legion" when they had a watery tart with a scimitar helping the kid emperor,... (Aishwarya Rai as Mira)

  • @gavasiarobinssson5108
    @gavasiarobinssson5108 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Local government was common in Scandinavia. However they paid taxes so you can not say they were autonomous.

    • @manzion7591
      @manzion7591 ปีที่แล้ว

      Most of history supports the concept of taxes not as subscribing to Being Ruled but as various manners of tribute or protection money. It’s not a stretch to look at much historical tax paying as outsourcing of armed defence. “We’ll agree to pay this much for protection from your soldiers and from the foreign soldiers. “

    • @gavasiarobinssson5108
      @gavasiarobinssson5108 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@manzion7591 Most of? How do you make a quantification?

    • @col4574
      @col4574 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

      One warrior chief and his mates fought all the others until therewas no one left to beat,then called himself king and claimed to own everything

  • @nicholasbell9017
    @nicholasbell9017 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Ooh look, a King!
    How d'ya know it's a king?
    'Cos he hasn't got shit all over him.

  • @Zebby-Dee
    @Zebby-Dee 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    And I have been listening to a podcast on the history of science in the Middle Ages.... Not as dark or as dumb as we've been led to believe! Great and funny examination.

  • @walli6388
    @walli6388 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I can't really take this serious after you showed footage of the Romans of old XD

  • @jwpoole1408
    @jwpoole1408 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wow man! Merry Christmas!!

  • @donwald3436
    @donwald3436 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Farcical aquatic ceremony. lol I heard the missing word immediately I know this film way too well.

  • @nash1328
    @nash1328 22 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Idk if anyone has already mentioned the Diggers but they were pretty communal

  • @ashikagaProdDesign
    @ashikagaProdDesign ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I have just a few problems with this video. It seems the maker confuses the Holy Roman Empire with the actual Roman Empire. He has added footage of ancient first century Romans and ancient first century Germanic tribes. This is not at all what people looked like in the 13th century. The maker would have done better by adding footage of proper Medieval reenactment groups.

    • @vickywitton1008
      @vickywitton1008 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

      You're right but maybe that was all the footage they could find

  • @scronx
    @scronx 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Marvelous. GREAT VIDEO. Thank you!!!!